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Title: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: da_pope on April 09, 2006, 02:01:52 PM
Do you actually think there is any merit to these Slash and Duff are back rumors?

I'm seriously starting to get alittle nervous. The thought of a GN'R with Axl, Slash and Duff make me? :drool:
I'm also starting to believe that the Axl "lawsuit" was just a ploy to make us believe that there is no chance of a GN'R reunion.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: jarmo on April 09, 2006, 02:05:47 PM
No, I think that if it had happened there'd more rumors about it.


The lawsuit is still going on, how could that be the case if those two were in the same band as Axl?  :confused:



/jarmo


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: da_pope on April 09, 2006, 02:07:41 PM
The lawsuit is still going on, how could that be the case if those two were in the same band as Axl?? :confused:

Read the post.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: jarmo on April 09, 2006, 02:11:26 PM
Oh, you edited the post....

Anyway, that's your opinion.

I don't think lawsuits are used to fool anybody into thinking something else is going on.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on April 09, 2006, 02:36:37 PM
If all of a sudden the lawsuit is dropped, then I might consider there being some sort of a reunion.  They aren't going to get together while this lawsuit is hanging over their heads.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Charity Case on April 09, 2006, 02:40:31 PM
No chance.  Wht would they hide if it were true?  They'd just say it and create buzz.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Origen on April 09, 2006, 02:43:46 PM
No chance.? Wht would they hide if it were true?? They'd just say it and create buzz.

Or hide it for a surprise thus creating buzz.


The GnR rumour mill has been crazy over the past few weeks/months, I say we just wait till Rock in Rio and wait and see just who is on stage.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 09, 2006, 02:56:44 PM
The is no chance Slash and Duff are coming back.... and as it stands now there is no chance Buckethead is coming back. Axl doesn't even get communication with Buckethead's hand puppet any more, strictly Buckethead's lawyers.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: JB9988 on April 09, 2006, 03:17:15 PM
Do you actually think there is any merit to these Slash and Duff are back rumors?

I'm seriously starting to get alittle nervous. The thought of a GN'R with Axl, Slash and Duff make me  :drool:
I'm also starting to believe that the Axl "lawsuit" was just a ploy to make us believe that there is no chance of a GN'R reunion.
the thought of sloth and doof back in guns makes me want to  :crying:.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 09, 2006, 03:19:18 PM
The is no chance Slash and Duff are coming back.... and as it stands now there is no chance Buckethead is coming back. Axl doesn't even get communication with Buckethead's hand puppet any more, strictly Buckethead's lawyers.

Talks to BHs lawyers about what? Writing credits for the album?


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 09, 2006, 03:22:42 PM
The is no chance Slash and Duff are coming back.... and as it stands now there is no chance Buckethead is coming back. Axl doesn't even get communication with Buckethead's hand puppet any more, strictly Buckethead's lawyers.

Talks to BHs lawyers about what? Writing credits for the album?

He wouldn't give details about what lawyers are discussing, I am trying to find that out from someone else though... if I do, I'll post about it.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: da_pope on April 09, 2006, 04:40:20 PM
Oh, something I relised.
Slash owns the rights to the 2 pistols wrapped in Roses logo right?
Well seeing how it's in the new logo... :D I'm getting more and more suspisous.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Locomotive98 on April 09, 2006, 05:52:52 PM
Its funny, but the more all this drags on, the rumours, the supposed new album etc - the less I actually care. I thought that the possibility of something actually happening with this ridiculous band would get me excited - now its doing just the opposite.  Am I the only one getting bored of this band and Axl's continuing disrespect for the fans?

Hell, at least theres a new Tool album in 3 weeks that only took 5 years to make. And I just know that it will rock. Im no longer sure that Axl and Friends' Elton John tributes and egomania etc will actually make me think all the fuss was worth it....


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Smoking Guns on April 09, 2006, 06:35:35 PM
yes, i feel there were several discussions leading to a reunion.  I think it was much closer then many would like to admit or beleive. 


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: leesixxrose on April 09, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
Oh, something I relised.
Slash owns the rights to the 2 pistols wrapped in Roses logo right?
Well seeing how it's in the new logo... :D I'm getting more and more suspisous.

what new logo are you talking about?


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Communist China on April 09, 2006, 07:10:36 PM
short answer: no.

Long answer: nope.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 09, 2006, 07:11:27 PM
Oh, something I relised.
Slash owns the rights to the 2 pistols wrapped in Roses logo right?
Well seeing how it's in the new logo... :D I'm getting more and more suspisous.

what new logo are you talking about?

There is no OFFICIAL new logo.. there is one promoters created to sell tickets to the show though.. I don't know where to find it.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Communist China on April 09, 2006, 07:18:40 PM
^ dude, you can see the logo at the wikipedia article for guns n roses.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mandy. on April 09, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
Oh, something I relised.
Slash owns the rights to the 2 pistols wrapped in Roses logo right?
Well seeing how it's in the new logo... :D I'm getting more and more suspisous.

Is that the one in the tickets?


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Backslash on April 09, 2006, 08:16:20 PM
^ dude, you can see the logo at the wikipedia article for guns n roses.

That must make it official, then Commie...  ;)


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: philspectorshotme on April 09, 2006, 08:20:49 PM
if slash was back in the band, do you think the pr side of whatever fucking music companies are involved in the band these days would have kept it under wraps? reunion tours are major selling points. if slash was back, you'd have had an offical announcement.




Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: da_pope on April 09, 2006, 08:24:32 PM
if slash was back in the band, do you think the pr side of whatever fucking music companies are involved in the band these days would have kept it under wraps? reunion tours are major selling points. if slash was back, you'd have had an offical announcement.

A Suprise reunion would be even bigger.
Cover, Frontpage, Headline... etc. of every music related item.

Hell it would probably even make National news.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Backslash on April 09, 2006, 08:25:18 PM
Any chance they wanna make it a surprise gig if Slash walks on stage to gauge the reaction of fans in the making of a DVD??

Naw guys, I'm talking out of my ass here.  ;D


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: jimmythegent on April 09, 2006, 08:46:38 PM
it seems entirely unlikey

in saying that, Axl has a funny way of going about things - it'd be a dream come true for most, but either way, I just hope we hear the album this year


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Communist China on April 09, 2006, 10:24:08 PM
^ dude, you can see the logo at the wikipedia article for guns n roses.

That must make it official, then Commie...? ;)

No, but it will be. It's well publicized and it wouldn't be at wikipedia if it was random, or else someone else would take it off.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: WARose on April 10, 2006, 01:34:27 AM
that logo is official dudes....


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Billo on April 10, 2006, 02:04:50 AM
NO, no chance.. :peace:


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mikkamakka on April 10, 2006, 03:29:01 AM
Oh, something I relised.
Slash owns the rights to the 2 pistols wrapped in Roses logo right?
Well seeing how it's in the new logo... :D I'm getting more and more suspisous.

Really? I didn't know that. Is there a proof for this?  ???


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Nighteyes on April 10, 2006, 04:34:54 AM
Oh, something I relised.
Slash owns the rights to the 2 pistols wrapped in Roses logo right?
Well seeing how it's in the new logo... :D I'm getting more and more suspisous.

Really? I didn't know that. Is there a proof for this?? ???

I've heard that he designed them. But I don't know if that's true.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Megaguns on April 10, 2006, 04:51:39 AM
anything possible in the world of gnr, but i highly doubt it since richard and tommy are definately playing, Maybe slash as the temporary 3rd guitarist? i wish.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: philspectorshotme on April 10, 2006, 09:32:44 AM
if slash was back in the band, do you think the pr side of whatever fucking music companies are involved in the band these days would have kept it under wraps? reunion tours are major selling points. if slash was back, you'd have had an offical announcement.

A Suprise reunion would be even bigger.
Cover, Frontpage, Headline... etc. of every music related item.

Hell it would probably even make National news.

maybe. but there is no way they would play it like that when they could sell out [all their] stadiums straight off the bat.
theres just too much money involved for a reunion campaign to be kept under wraps.

and really with all the bad blood around, im surprised we're even having to dismiss a reunion in the first place.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on April 10, 2006, 09:36:01 AM
Well, I still think that the rumors of a reunion (which I would love to see) are pretty far fetched.  The new logo though is of some interest to me considering the logo is a mixture of old and new.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Lord Kayoss on April 10, 2006, 10:11:02 AM
After listening to Contraband, I would hope they aren't back in GN'R.  The new music sounds just fine without them.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 10, 2006, 12:36:34 PM
For the last time.. that logo is NOT official.

It's promoter made and it wasn't made from the Gnr camp.

That's all.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: WARose on April 10, 2006, 12:39:28 PM
For the last time.. that logo is NOT official.

It's promoter made and it wasn't made from the Gnr camp.

That's all.

give the source dude!


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: WARose on April 10, 2006, 12:40:59 PM
do you seriously think some promoter would create a gnr logo???

and then send it to all other promoters as well as festival promoters?

and richard posts the unofficial logo as well?

i don?t think so....


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: ARC on April 10, 2006, 01:19:34 PM
Do you actually think there is any merit to these Slash and Duff are back rumors?

Unfortunately not.

...but then again, not one single person on this forum knows shit about what is happening with GNR, so who knows...


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: kaasupoltin on April 10, 2006, 01:25:04 PM
Oh, something I relised.
Slash owns the rights to the 2 pistols wrapped in Roses logo right?
Well seeing how it's in the new logo... :D I'm getting more and more suspisous.

Really? I didn't know that. Is there a proof for this?  ???

I've heard that he designed them. But I don't know if that's true.

On the cover of LLAS/Lies it says something like "Cover design by Slash".. so I think that he designed that logo :beer:


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 10, 2006, 02:28:03 PM
do you seriously think some promoter would create a gnr logo???

and then send it to all other promoters as well as festival promoters?

and richard posts the unofficial logo as well?

i don?t think so....

I think Richard's webmaster would just scoop up the most recent guns n roses logo he could find, preferably the one being used on posters/pamphlets to promote the shows.

I also believe that any promoter, who was informed gnr would be on a concert, would probably at first try to get an "official" logo, but then if that could not be attained would resort to creating his own logo to promote the concert. Once that logo was seen, all other promoters would then assume its official or use it because it is the newest one to appear.

No source I have has verified that as "official"..and in my opinion it look pretty tacky.. that's not something I think Axl would approve of...



Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on April 10, 2006, 02:28:42 PM
Do you actually think there is any merit to these Slash and Duff are back rumors?


...but then again, not one single person on this forum knows shit about what is happening with GNR, so who knows...

Tell that to Mr Intensity.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 10, 2006, 02:31:36 PM
Do you actually think there is any merit to these Slash and Duff are back rumors?


...but then again, not one single person on this forum knows shit about what is happening with GNR, so who knows...

Tell that to Mr Intensity.

I guess most the stuff I post regarding Guns N Roses has been proven false then.. oh wait, everything I've said has been proven correct so far.. I forgot about that.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 10, 2006, 03:01:26 PM
The rumors in the Classic Rock article say that the supposed reunion tour fell apart when it was discovered that Axl demanded rights to the GNR name and the back catalog.? I can understand the back catalog issue, but hasn't it already been established that the band signed away the GNR name to Axl a long time ago?? That kind of poor attention to detail leads me to believe the article is BS.

The article was bs and I imagine it was confirmed by management to be BS which is why Jarmo removed it from this site.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: WARose on April 10, 2006, 03:12:49 PM
The rumors in the Classic Rock article say that the supposed reunion tour fell apart when it was discovered that Axl demanded rights to the GNR name and the back catalog.  I can understand the back catalog issue, but hasn't it already been established that the band signed away the GNR name to Axl a long time ago?  That kind of poor attention to detail leads me to believe the article is BS.

The article was bs and I imagine it was confirmed by management to be BS which is why Jarmo removed it from this site.

management said that there`d be no reunion. that`s what the article said as well....

and management tells what axl wants us and the public to know. they basically have to take and defend axl`s position. they?re not telling the gospel truth....  that`s something most people here seem to forget sometimes.....


do you seriously think some promoter would create a gnr logo???

and then send it to all other promoters as well as festival promoters?

and richard posts the unofficial logo as well?

i don?t think so....

I think Richard's webmaster would just scoop up the most recent guns n roses logo he could find, preferably the one being used on posters/pamphlets to promote the shows.

I also believe that any promoter, who was informed gnr would be on a concert, would probably at first try to get an "official" logo, but then if that could not be attained would resort to creating his own logo to promote the concert. Once that logo was seen, all other promoters would then assume its official or use it because it is the newest one to appear.

No source I have has verified that as "official"..and in my opinion it look pretty tacky.. that's not something I think Axl would approve of...



so basically you know nothing, but you speculate a little?

no offense, but i`d take christos` speculation regarding the logo over yours any day of the week....


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: ppbebe on April 10, 2006, 03:33:44 PM
Quote
The article also says there was an attempted mediation of the lawsuit - is that untrue as well?

Isn't the Classic Rock article supposed to be another April fool?

As for the attempted mediation bit, most likely their guess is as good as yours.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: leesixxrose on April 10, 2006, 04:41:14 PM
that logo is official dudes....

LOL... no its not dudes... some fan with photo shop and a little time made that... its not an offical logo.. you can look at it and tell.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 10, 2006, 05:11:27 PM
I'm publicly backing off the statement that logo wasn't created by someone in the gnr camp.  :peace:

My apologies WaRose.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: leesixxrose on April 10, 2006, 05:13:54 PM
I'm publicly backing off the statement that logo wasn't created by someone in the gnr camp.? :peace:

Why? what made u change your mind?


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 10, 2006, 05:22:08 PM
I'm publicly backing off the statement that logo wasn't created by someone in the gnr camp.? :peace:

Why? what made u change your mind?

I finally got annoyed with all the logo talk and contacted buckethead's hand puppet, he then explained to me the truth. I also asked him for the track "prostitute" but the fucker wanted like 500 dolls/toys in trade...


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: leesixxrose on April 10, 2006, 05:28:17 PM
I'm publicly backing off the statement that logo wasn't created by someone in the gnr camp.? :peace:

Why? what made u change your mind?

I finally got annoyed with all the logo talk and contacted buckethead's hand puppet, he then explained to me the truth. I also asked him for the track "prostitute" but the fucker wanted like 500 dolls/toys in trade...

what a greedy bastard!!!! 


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: TrixAreForKids on April 10, 2006, 05:39:45 PM
The rumors in the Classic Rock article say that the supposed reunion tour fell apart when it was discovered that Axl demanded rights to the GNR name and the back catalog.? I can understand the back catalog issue, but hasn't it already been established that the band signed away the GNR name to Axl a long time ago?? That kind of poor attention to detail leads me to believe the article is BS.

The article was bs and I imagine it was confirmed by management to be BS which is why Jarmo removed it from this site.

As far as management is concerned, GnR's management is the worst.

Do you think management would confirm that article as true? The article implies that Axl tried to trick his former bandmates into signing over the whole back catalog.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: leesixxrose on April 10, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
As far as management is concerned, GnR's management is the worst.
Actually they prolly do a fine job... all the lawsuits, demands, Clear Channel, Overseas tours, Record label complaining, and nosy fans would prolly make them very very busy...... just be glad they dont have someone like Doc McGee who would sell GnR out in heartbeat.

Do you think management would confirm that article as true? The article implies that Axl tried to trick his former bandmates into signing over the whole back catalog.

Its so silly of an article and dumb.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: guns_n_roses on April 10, 2006, 05:56:15 PM
No, I think that if it had happened there'd more rumors about it.


The lawsuit is still going on, how could that be the case if those two were in the same band as Axl?? :confused:



/jarmo

But then all these tours with no lead guitarist... the songs we hear all have 3 guitars mixed into them. there is not doubt about that. and the lawsuit can go on or months up until axl comes out with the truth.

think about it why would axl say out of nowhere "oh, i was joking we are getting back together." now axl can say this. the day of the act, axl can say these lawsuits were all bullshit. and slash didnt drop the suit so it wouldnt look obvious. kind of my wide eyed vison of reality...sorry im sitll rootin' for old gnr. new gnr rules but im not living in 2006... see right now im in the year of april 91 and im bithcing at axl to bring out this new cd's.. and it seems so close yet so far.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: ppbebe on April 10, 2006, 06:28:13 PM
I can't follow the logic.

Do you actually think there would be any merit for GNR in making you believe that no ex member would come back if any?  And in suing each other just for that? To Lie to the fans to worry them till the last moment and then to surprise them that way would be pointless and plain silly. Or else, was such bs cool or something in the 80s? ???

How about a piece of news?

Pharrell Collaborating With Velvet Revolver

"Despite rumors that Velvet Revolver members Slash and Duff McKagan will rejoin Guns N' Roses for a summer tour, the group is actually at work on its sophomore RCA album with an unlikely collaborator: uber hip-hop producer Pharrell Williams."-  billboard news April 04, 2006 (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002276825)


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Sparksry on April 10, 2006, 07:07:50 PM
I personally dont want a reunion .... u know what would have to happen.... thy would have to do the CD again with duff and slash so thats why im not really into the idea...  :-\


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: nonlinear on April 10, 2006, 07:36:09 PM
Oh, something I relised.
Slash owns the rights to the 2 pistols wrapped in Roses logo right?
Well seeing how it's in the new logo... :D I'm getting more and more suspisous.

NO, slash doesn't own the rights to it (why the fuck do people keep saying that/????)

his father drew it, but axl owns it


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: nonlinear on April 10, 2006, 07:40:24 PM
that logo is official dudes....

That logo IS NOT official, it's all off center and shit.  there is NO WAY it would have flaws in it


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: nonlinear on April 10, 2006, 07:43:09 PM
For the last time.. that logo is NOT official.

It's promoter made and it wasn't made from the Gnr camp.

That's all.

give the source dude!

HE doens't have a source, it's just his opinion (like always) although I of course agree with him (like always) since he seems to be more level headed than most people on this board.  but he has no inside source


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Krispy Kreme on April 10, 2006, 08:18:44 PM
No.


Title: Re: Do you actually think there is any merit to these rumours?
Post by: Mr.Intensity on April 10, 2006, 08:20:49 PM
For the last time.. that logo is NOT official.

It's promoter made and it wasn't made from the Gnr camp.

That's all.

give the source dude!

HE doens't have a source, it's just his opinion (like always) although I of course agree with him (like always) since he seems to be more level headed than most people on this board.  but he has no inside source

Actually, I admitted I was wrong, that logo was created by someone in the gnr camp. : ok: