Here Today... Gone To Hell!

so, I just emailed him asking if we will have the album before or in the middle of these Guns shows, just to know if I?ll have a chance to learn all the new songs to sing along with Uncle Axl at RIR ( i think I?ll go to RIR again) and he replied me with that...

I?m facing his answer as 70% of "you?ll se some surprises about what you asked" and 30% as "if they release the album till then, then you?ll have it... simple"

What exactly was his answer? The thread title, or the second paragraph?

So what exactly was the whole email he sent back? Just post the whole thing.

Past cop the email here , please ?!

so, he basically said nothing--again ?::)

Merck is a helluva PR man. He is so ambiguous, he leaves EVERYTHING to the imagination. It gets old...

"Hey Renato, you will have to wait and see. Good luck with your band."

You expect him to say anything to a fan before its officially announced? What he saidwasn't bad anyway, its just code really.

Good luck with your band ? GNR is your band ? WTF  ?!

didn?t you know?!??!?!!

I?m Axl!
(http://sp8.fotologs.net/photo/8/59/56/renato_zangrossi/1136516549_f.jpg)

 :rofl:

J/K

I sent him this email:

-----Original Message-----
From: Renato Zangrossi <-----@------------>
To: Merck Mercuriadis <---------@--------------------->
Sent: Wed Mar 29 18:28:13 2006
Subject: Guns

"Hey Merck
How are you doing?
Just wanted know if the new GNR album will be release before or between these new GNR shows, because I live in Brazil and I?ll buy some tickets to see them at RIR in may and wanted to know if I?ll be singing together the lyrics hehe
Take care
I huge GNR fan since 91
 
Ps: wanted to know your opinion about my band, we?re playing and just released our first album here in Brazil: www.nutshell.com.br
I?m the guitarrist (the guy with long hair with bandana, any similiarities with Axl is just coincidence lol)
Sorry for the english"

he has a band here in brazil.

the manegement is hiding something :o yowza...

thanks for the post, Renato!

Fuckin Merck the Jerk

Damn, you DO look like Axl! :hihi:

Ok so they have no idea when it's coming out :hihi:

 :hihi: that's probably true,but I really hope the album comes out soon because if it doesn't we might all go crazy or something,wait,we're all already crazy  :rofl:

what could possibly be a surprise about what was asked?  maybe he won't have to learn the new gnr songs to sing along because the reunion thing is true and they'll play old stuff... hell, i'd be surprised ;D

we been waiting 12years

me personally 14 years. 14 years of silence...

The Merckster strikes again.. The Merk - O - Maina is running wild. He's a joke. Plan and simple

stupid reply.. Can' t these heads fucking say a ything worth while to teh fans

dude, we've got a Guns N' Roses tour around the corner man!  :-* relax

I wouldnt relax untill Axl Rose is on stage and singing.

I doubt they are going to say anything that is liable to spark off a rumour of any sort. Also Axl always maintained that there was no point in saying anything unless he had something worthwhile to say. So be patient.

What exactly do you know about band management that Merck doesn't?

We have all these so called "experts" posting about everything Sanctuary does, like they'd do a better job. Maybe you need to get into artist management since seem to know so much about it?


He took time to reply to an e-mail and that makes him a joke? If he hadn't replied he would've been an asshole instead..... Right?


I also wonder if his reply was meant as some kind of announcement to all GN'R fans or if it "just" was a reply to an e-mail? ?::)


All this bitching is getting boring. Same people repeating the same old lines.




/jarmo

I had better material but I forgot it. Eh what else is there.. Actually I do know managers and even those people who are real close to me in my life think that its a horrible situition for the band and management.


Nah.. The ponytail makes him the ass hole.

Yeah, it's horrible since nothing they do will please a few of you.

You'll always find something to whine about.





/jarmo

Jarmo, come on.. You know like everyone else knows everything bout GnR is fucked. Any little bit of official news I would be happy with. Offical.. not a few word e-mail responces. And if that happens I won't be "whining" at something else as you put it. And they havent done much to please.

Well this isn't it, so why whine about this?




/jarmo

It's 4:04am and there aint shit on TV.  : ok:

ROFL!

merck tells the public and the fans what axl wants the public and the fans to know....

it`s as easy as this : ok:


do you think doug goldstein was a better manager, since he gave more news, but without axl`s approval or even knowledge (2001 europe tour.....................)??

that was bs from the start,

axl reads the newspaper, watches tv/mtv, and used the internet at some stage.

the news of the the euro tour back then was everywhere. he must have seen it at some point, and to leave it that long before he decided that enough was enough and he should put the "lies" to bed was criminal. although i suspect he was aware of the shows all along.

goldstein was then made to be the scapegoat, and sacrafice himself....

Personally, I'd rather just have him not respond at all.

Merck may be a great guy behind the scenes, but he sucks giant donkey cock when it comes to PR.

And unfortunately that is his job.

BTW I don't think that GN'R has/had the worst managers of all time. Managers came and gone, but the problems remained. The key to these issues is somewhere else...

bascially that`s what i wanted to say.....................


now guess where (who.....)  this key is : ok:

It is a definite, possible, maybe that we will see the album anytime soon.  Hehehehe, just relax and it will come.  What is another year wait among friends, right?  Slowly but surely it is coming.

yeah  you put it right: everyone here knows that......

 

Given the fact that Merck is the CEO of this company, and the company is in serious financial trouble if you believe all the web reports from the reporters that cover the various stock markets and such, I'd say the results speak for themselves.

I believe Merck said this because, HE TOO, is going to have to wait and see.

No offence to Merck, we all know who he manages, and whatever finally happens probably will be a bit of a surprise to him, as well.

lol, hes probably fed up with hearing everything

Merck Meningitis is just as clueless as everyone else.  He's just another puppet.

merck and gnr management are a buch of douchebags...what is wrong with these assholes?? is it so hard to at least just make a statement regarding the tour?... a tour which has ALREADY BEEN CONFIRMED BY EVERONE......EXCEPT THE ACTUAL BAND!!!!!
what a crock

He responded to an e-mail.

How happy would you be if your e-mail was posted on message boards and you were bring labeled an asshole for being nice enough to reply?

It's not a fucking statement from management and yet some of you are making it sound like he made some big announcement that wasn't good enough!



Oh right. You think they make announcements for fun when they're not supposed to?



Why do you need a statement when you yourself point out that it's been confirmed?

There could be an announcement listing the tour dates today and what would you say then? "Is this it? Those assholes told us what we already know! Fuck them!"...  ::)

As always, there'll be an announcement once there's something to announce.

The tour has been promoted and announced by the local promoters. It seems like a lot of people are actually aware of the tour and are buying tickets without management posting announcements all over the place.  :o



/jarmo

Jarmo = Merck  ;D

Merck = manager

Me (and most people posting here) = not manager



It's really easy to criticise things you have no idea about.

Have people here ever thought about the possibility that GN'R doesn't work like your regular bands and that might have something to do with the fact that there's no announcements every other week?


Some of you might not even remember how the August 2002 tour was announced. Go find out before you continue whining, you might be surprised when you find out the date the press release arrived.




/jarmo

Jarmo, you mean Axl doesn't work like other bands....let's get to the root of the problem. Merck simply does what his client (Axl) wants. Blaming Merck is simply ridiculous and misdirected anger. End of discussion. :rant:

Maybe that explains why we don't get press releases about everything? Because the band doesn't want to do that.


But instead we have certain people whining about Merck and Sanctuary not knowing how to do their job...  ::)



/jarmo

Can someone PM me Axl`s E-Address, I want to ask him some things

grab the torches and pitchforks and get axl :rant:

The root of the problem is, in this case, the fans who fail to take GN'R for what it is. You'd think that by now people would have learned. What happens happens. It's so simple it hurts.

Merck, GN'R , ?Axl, CD: these people/things have no effect on my life. Sure, I want the CD as much as the next guy, but it's not like I'm holding my breath, counting the seconds until the next press release. It happens when it happens, everything inbetween is called life and shouldn't really be affected by it.

But that's just me...

Can people fucking stop whining! We have a tour coming up, and there will be answers.
Come on. Go to work, grab a keg of beer, go out, have a good time. Enjoy your lives.

didn`t he want to give you merck?s? :hihi:

I wasn't even a Guns-fan back in '02, please tell about it Jarmo :)

the press release arrived one day before the tour started or even the day the tour started.....   i`m not sure right now

Why do you need a statement when you yourself point out that it's been confirmed?

There could be an announcement listing the tour dates today and what would you say then? "Is this it? Those assholes told us what we already know! Fuck them!"...? ::)

As always, there'll be an announcement once there's something to announce.

The tour has been promoted and announced by the local promoters. It seems like a lot of people are actually aware of the tour and are buying tickets without management posting announcements all over the place.? :o

/jarmo


My guess as to why people would want an "official" announcement regarding these concert dates is is what happened back in 2001 when Axl was unaware that he was supposed to be on tour, and alot of dates were cancelled and alot of fans were dissappointed.

I don't know all the specifics as to who said and knew what and wont pretend to.

However, my guess would be, here in 2006, some people are a bit reluctant to get excited or buy tickets to a GnR show that has yet to be officiallly announced / confirmed by Axl Rose or his management group, even though they've been confirmed by the venue.

Perhaps a statement from Axl or his management group would alleviate some of the anxiety about whether or not to buy tickets to the show, as their is a past history with cancelled cancert dates.

With all due respect Jarmo I do not agree. ?That Merck replied to this email is a VERY NICE gesture from him. ?Believe me I respect him for that. ?What I think he is doing wrong though is managing GNR. ?Let's face it, Axl has been away for a really long time. ?The fact that he and the band will tour this summer is GIGANTIC news. ?I am saying that they should've made a press release and perhaps a press conference announcing those dates. ?And if there were still some dates to confirm they could've said that more dates would be announced shortly. ?Also during that statement and or press conference they could've confirmed the lineup of the band and announce their website. ?Now we have no official statement and no official website. ?We have no clue of who's in and who's out and for all we know they could end up not showing up to the shows because they actually never made it official. ?

I am not saying that Merck is all bad as a manager. ?The fact that he got that job must mean that he's good at it to some extent. ?But so far he is really missing the boat as far as GNR is concerned. ?Does that make him a bad person? ?Absolutely not. ?Does that make him a bad manager? ?Not necessarily. ?Would we make a better job? ?I can't talk for the others, but I can say that on most of the aspects of managing a band I have zero training or ?knowledge, so I don't think I'd be cut out for it. ?But as far as PR is concerned for this tour. ?It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they are not doing a fantastic job.

As far as the fans whining. ?There will always be whiners. ?That can't be avoided no matter what. ?But if GNR made an announcement confirming the tour and the lineup well that would please the fans for a while. ?Sure some would complain that there is no announcement about the album, but as long as they say that an announcement for that would be made surely, they are covering their grounds. ?At least we'd know that the ball is really rolling. ?I know that in theory it is best for you to stand up for Merck but you got to understand the fans frustrations and pretending that all is great will not fix the problem. ?

And let's not forget we have people whining about other people's whining.

Perhaps a change of topic will get this thread deleted, because I'm easily amused, and that would amuse me.

MAJOR AXL ROSE NEWS!!!

As reported earlier by a fan posing as Axl's soap, he was seen recently, some time in the last month, going into his bathroom. Rumour has it, once running water was heard, he may or may not have taken a shower.

Now that it's been mentioned, I feel it's my duty to let you all in on the truth.

Jarmo isn't Merck. He's Slash.

WOW!! BET YA DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMIN', DID YA!!

Have you ever wondered why you don't see Slash and Jarmo on the same message board? Well, now you know.

Now everyone shut the fuck up, and Jarmo/Slash, start bustin' out some Sweet Child O' Mine. I've got the lighter ready to go.

the press release arrived one day before the tour started or even the day the tour started.....? ?i`m not sure right now

That may explain why there were so many empty seats at some of the venues.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the idea of a concert was to play in front of people.    Of course, Merck didn't become GnR's Manager till 2004 so we can't lay the blame on him. 

What?s mercks email adress? He Have to fuckin answer me. I?ve bought his bands products since 89,  are they comin over or what ???

I think people should stop bothering him since it's not a fan mail address.


Maybe we should stop posting his replies to various fans so that we don't get the same discussion every time....


/jarmo

We must remember that everyone on all the GNR internet forums combined is still only a very small fraction of Guns N Roses' fanbase. Some of us act like we are their only fans. Guess what..? We ain't that important. The internet could go down today and GNR would still have a huge fanbase across the world.

no. we`re talking about the press release for the mini tour in europe and asia in august 2002, not about the north american one. and as far as i know most of that shows were festivals anyway and the rest(docklands...) sold out : ok:

it`s not that easy to be a gnr fan without having the internet......

i guess there`re lots of people out there who like gnr`s music, but aren`t necessarily what i`d call "fans"


i`m not waiting for a tour announcement by the way..... i want an announcement about the album : ok:

Well, at least he gave you a response. I think this is cool, it keeps us guessing, although we've been guessing for the last 12 years.  ;)

merck@mymerck.com


axl@velvetrevolver.com



Yeah grandpa, tell us the story...  ;D

How are we any more of a fan than someone who just has the albums but doesn't surf the net...? What do we have that they don't...?

Not very important in the scheme of things.

Merck is most stupid idiotic manager EVER in US music industry.

You will have to wait and see

that means he does not know  ;D

dude, we had that discussion here allreadfy. merck does what axl wants him to do, that`s it. look at doug goldstein. he is surely a better manager then....

....booked a tour without axl knowing about it ::)

4 tracks leaked and people still fucking whine.

Isn't that what cost Goldstein his job? 

i think so....

he did more of that though :hihi:

i agree i think that merck isn't got the pr machine in motion, look at motley crue when they reformed for a tour last year, there were press conferences, interviews.....they were everywhere.

maybe the reason there hasn't been any pr is beacuse they are waitimg to see if the album is done.
i.e axl has a deadline and they are waiting to see if he meets it...

dave

I didn't know we were actually buying that story.  :rofl:

yeah...neither...i think thats bullshit...

i personally don`t know if it`s bullshit or not....

there sould be enough so called "insiders" on this board to verify if this story is true or not by the way......

it doesn`t matter anyways.....  merck is axl`s employee, hence he does/tells us what axl wants him to do/tell us

That may not be true, the people posting on the boards may be his entire fanbase ???

 ???   there are tons of insiders on all gnr boards...

didn`t you realise that yet?

i`m thinking about starting my own insider career as well.....