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Title: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jarmo on March 28, 2006, 04:24:42 PM
This episode features a brand new interview hosts Mark Strigl and John Ostronomy conducted with legendary guitarist Michael Angelo Batio as well as a rebroadcast of an interview Ostronomy conducted with legend,  Yngwie Malmsteen, last fall. In the interview with Batio, topics include Batio's "Hands Without Shadows" CD and "Speed Kills 2"instructional DVD as well as the Thirsty Whale nightclub, Tommy Holland,  Joey Cetner, Nitro,  Jim Gillette, Lita Ford, Bobby Rock, Gene Simmons, Rudy Sarzo, and Craig Goldy. The interview also addresses rumors involving Batio,  Axl Rose, and Guns N? Roses

http://www.striglsmusicnews.com/podcasts/talkingmetal/index.htm





/jarmo


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 28, 2006, 04:29:06 PM
interesting shit.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 04:31:23 PM
Anyone hear this whole thing yet?  What exactly gets said about Axl and Guns N' Roses?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 04:34:12 PM
... so I heard this guy Batio can play the guitar...? 



Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 04:37:28 PM
... so I heard this guy Batio can play the guitar...??



Michael Angelo?? yeah, he's one of the greatest.  Ever hear of the band Nitro?  they're nuts.  He's the craziest shredder ever.  Match that with Jim Gillette (6 octave range) who can break glass with his voice, Nitro was one of the sickest metal groups that never became huge.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 04:38:28 PM
... so I heard this guy Batio can play the guitar...??



Michael Angelo?? yeah, he's one of the greatest.? Ever hear of the band Nitro?? they're nuts.? He's the craziest shredder ever.? Match that with Jim Gillette (6 octave range) who can break glass with his voice, Nitro was one of the sickest metal groups that never became huge.

I know. I was being sarcastic.  ;)


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 04:40:52 PM
ah I didn't know!   :beer:

But yeah, back on topic, anyone hear the Guns part of this yet?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: speak_truth on March 28, 2006, 04:45:46 PM
Huge file


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 04:47:47 PM
Oh wait... I found something at 25:15!  Michael Angelo says that he "may" have been contacted by Guns N' Roses to replace Buckethead.  He says that there's nothing concrete yet.  Holy shit!!! There is something to the rumour!


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 28, 2006, 04:49:27 PM
im still downloading it lol its at 98% tho. man it would be great if he joined the band ..IF.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: busngabb on March 28, 2006, 04:50:55 PM
From the start to the thing, he'll do.

I just hope he has a more up to date hair cut before taking the stage with Robin and co. I wouldn't want him to destroy the legacy of Buckethead with some 1970's hairdo.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: speak_truth on March 28, 2006, 04:51:16 PM
Oh wait... I found something at 25:15!? Michael Angelo says that he "may" have been contacted by Guns N' Roses to replace Buckethead.? He says that there's nothing concrete yet.? Holy shit!!! There is something to the rumour!

Is that it ? anymore


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 28, 2006, 04:53:54 PM
Michael Angelo says "you never know with axl rose"  :yes: true, true. he also says "i got shows booked all the way through November of this year but if it did happen i'd cancel all those shows" ;D


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: HungerForChaos on March 28, 2006, 04:54:26 PM
From the start to the thing, he'll do.

I just hope he has a more up to date hair cut before taking the stage with Robin and co. I wouldn't want him to destroy the legacy of Buckethead with some 1970's hairdo.
To live up to Buckethead, Micheal Angelo needs to wear a turtle suit! :hihi:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 28, 2006, 04:55:45 PM
Michael Angelo in GNR? what's that shit? I don't believe it.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 04:56:07 PM
Oh wait... I found something at 25:15!? Michael Angelo says that he "may" have been contacted by Guns N' Roses to replace Buckethead.? He says that there's nothing concrete yet.? Holy shit!!! There is something to the rumour!

Wow. This is gonna spread like wild fire.

Some of his finger tapping stuff sounds a little like Buckethead


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 28, 2006, 04:56:31 PM
Now the plot thickens. ?He can pull off Buckets parts no problem. ?But over the years that I have heard this guy, I haven't heard any of his originals containing anything with "feel". ?Everything I heard (which isn't too terribly much I'll admit) sounded like videogame music. ?Too fast with not alot of "feel". ?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jimb0 on March 28, 2006, 04:57:32 PM
YES  : ok: 

Ladies and Gentlemen we have a winner


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Voodoochild on March 28, 2006, 04:58:32 PM
Hope not, ewww... He doesn't fit in Buckethead's whole. Just because he's super faster, doesn't mean he could play the way it's supposed to be.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 04:58:57 PM
I like Michael Angelo a lot more than Buckethead, I'll tell you that. ?I want him to break out that dual neck guitar!


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: LittleFly on March 28, 2006, 04:59:55 PM
YES? : ok:?

Ladies and Gentlemen we have a winner

....right before April Fools Day.....

Don't count your chickens. He also spoke about GNR, a great way to get kicked out!


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 28, 2006, 05:00:51 PM
Will Axl make the same mistake of bringing a shredder in GNR twice? Is he that stupid?
Axl, GNR just doesn't work with a shredder! Stop your bullshits, you are going to fail a second time if you do that.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 05:01:06 PM
From Slash to some guy with a mullet who plays a double-neck guitar...? ?:-\ ?:confused:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: HungerForChaos on March 28, 2006, 05:01:58 PM
YES  : ok: 

Ladies and Gentlemen we have a winner

....right before April Fools Day.....

Don't count your chickens. He also spoke about GNR, a great way to get kicked out!

The great thing about April Fools Day is that the jokes only happen on April Fools. Jokes before/after will get your ass kicked. ;) Although I don't really believe  this...


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 28, 2006, 05:02:08 PM
Will Axl make the same mistake of bringing a shredder in GNR twice? Is he that stupid?

Considering alot of the music contains shredding, then yes a shredder will be in GNR. ?We all know you hate shredders Nesquick, but get used to it.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jimb0 on March 28, 2006, 05:02:45 PM
I like Michael Angelo a lot more than Buckethead, I'll tell you that.  I want him to break out that dual neck guitar!


I feel the same way. 


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jimb0 on March 28, 2006, 05:04:06 PM
At least we got something  new to talk about


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: busngabb on March 28, 2006, 05:11:52 PM
Will Axl make the same mistake of bringing a shredder in GNR twice? Is he that stupid?
Axl, GNR just doesn't work with a shredder! Stop your bullshits, you are going to fail a second time if you do that.

The music was better with Buckethead in. Robin and Richard alone playing the old songs would be dull and boring, and pretty much like any cover band you can see anywhere, but with a better singer.

We NEED what I term the 'effects' guitarist. Its not about mindless shredding as you put it. Buckethead's contribution on the demos, particularly Better, is magnificent.

Listen to Nightrain from Boston and tell me GNR doesn't need a replacement for Bucket. Its better than the original band played it.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 28, 2006, 05:12:41 PM
At least we got something? new to talk about
true dat
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=28228.0


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Voodoochild on March 28, 2006, 05:14:34 PM
Will Axl make the same mistake of bringing a shredder in GNR twice? Is he that stupid?
Axl, GNR just doesn't work with a shredder! Stop your bullshits, you are going to fail a second time if you do that.

The music was better with Buckethead in. Robin and Richard alone playing the old songs would be dull and boring, and pretty much like any cover band you can see anywhere, but with a better singer.

We NEED what I term the 'effects' guitarist. Its not about mindless shredding as you put it. Buckethead's contribution on the demos, particularly Better, is magnificent.

Listen to Nightrain from Boston and tell me GNR doesn't need a replacement for Bucket. Its better than the original band played it.
Listen to The Blues. There's almost no Buckethead on the song... Still, nothing but a wonderful song.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: boston on March 28, 2006, 05:15:09 PM
I like Michael Angelo a lot more than Buckethead, I'll tell you that. ?I want him to break out that dual neck guitar!
maybe he still has the Guitar from 80's with 4 necks - VERY METAL ?--  : ok:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: GypsySoul on March 28, 2006, 05:18:43 PM
I just hope he has a more up to date hair cut before taking the stage with Robin and co. I wouldn't want him to destroy the legacy of Buckethead with some 1970's hairdo.
To live up to Buckethead, Micheal Angelo needs to wear a turtle suit! :hihi:
"Heroes on a Half-Shell" was always one of my favorite songs!!! ?I can't wait for the GNR cover of it!!! ?:rofl:

I have no clue who this guy is so no offense to him but IMO Robin and Richard can handle all the shreddin' for GNR.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Nytunz on March 28, 2006, 05:19:38 PM
guess i need to check this guy..
Any good tunes i could listen to? where he shows how to play?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: oneway23 on March 28, 2006, 05:21:50 PM
From Slash to some guy with a mullet who plays a double-neck guitar...?  :-\  :confused:

First people bitched about the bucket, now it's a mullet...who really gives two shits?  Doesn't matter with some folks who they'll get, you'll never let go, and it'll never be Slash again...Slash is Slash, but there ARE other credible, capable guitarists out there.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 05:23:00 PM

I have no clue who this guy is so no offense to him but IMO Robin and Richard can handle all the shreddin' for GNR.


Trust me though, if you knew who Michael Angelo was, you'd totally think that Robin and Richard are like my dead grandmother along side of him.

Of course, I'm not a huge fan of shredding music myself, but this guy is very talented.

guess i need to check this guy..
Any good tunes i could listen to? where he shows how to play?

He has a lot of videos available on file sharing programs. ?he used to be in the band Nitro, so you could check them out.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 28, 2006, 05:25:33 PM
Bringing a shredder a second time is the best way for the fans to sream "SLASH!" during the upcomming tour. It seems Axl still doesn't know how to "replace" Slash so he tries with a shredder. Wrong, wrong idea. It's like trying to replace your wife by becoming an homo while you are not. It doesn't make sense. I can't believe Axl could be so stupid and make that mistake a second time . I hope it's an April fool...

It's also insulting for Richard and Robin, it's like "guys you aren't good enough".


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 05:26:24 PM
From Slash to some guy with a mullet who plays a double-neck guitar...?? :-\? :confused:

First people bitched about the bucket, now it's a mullet...who really gives two shits?

Quite a lot of people, actually.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Markus Asraelius on March 28, 2006, 05:27:10 PM
Bringing a shredder a second time is the best way for the fans to sream "SLASH!" during the upcomming tour. Is Axl so deseperate? he doesn't know how to "replace" Slash so he tries with a shredder. Wrong, wrong idea. It's like trying to replace your wife by becoming an homo while you are not. It just doesn't work. I can't believe Axl could be so stupid. I hope it's an April fool... ?


All you do is whine like a little pussy.

Your analogy is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Why would someone try to replace their wife with going homosexual when they're not. Hello?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Nytunz on March 28, 2006, 05:28:29 PM
Oh shit!

Go to his website and listen to the intro on the site there!
This guy would play Buckets parts to hell and back... !!

http://www.angelo.com/

Gotta find moore!


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 28, 2006, 05:31:03 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 05:33:16 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

I agree that shredders tend not to play with as much feeling.  But also think that an exceptional shredder is a giant step up from a mediocre one.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: busngabb on March 28, 2006, 05:34:53 PM
Bringing a shredder a second time is the best way for the fans to sream "SLASH!" during the upcomming tour. Is Axl so deseperate? he doesn't know how to "replace" Slash so he tries with a shredder. Wrong, wrong idea. It's like trying to replace your wife by becoming an homo while you are not. It just doesn't work. I can't believe Axl could be so stupid. I hope it's an April fool...

It's also insulting for Richard and Robin, it's like "guys you aren't good enough".

I take it you don't like the demos then? Don't like Better? Wouldn't rather GNR were relevant than played 1980's hairdband music?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 05:35:46 PM
What's wrong with EVH...?! Call him up Ax!


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Nytunz on March 28, 2006, 05:36:36 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

I like shredding!
I love Dimebag! And no one can say Dimebag dident have feeling, so there are shredders with feeling to!
This guy would fith right next to Fortus and Finck!


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 28, 2006, 05:37:46 PM
Bringing a shredder a second time is the best way for the fans to sream "SLASH!" during the upcomming tour. Is Axl so deseperate? he doesn't know how to "replace" Slash so he tries with a shredder. Wrong, wrong idea. It's like trying to replace your wife by becoming an homo while you are not. It just doesn't work. I can't believe Axl could be so stupid. I hope it's an April fool...

It's also insulting for Richard and Robin, it's like "guys you aren't good enough".

I take it you don't like the demos then? Don't like Better? Wouldn't rather GNR were relevant than played 1980's hairdband music?

I do like "Better"... exept the shredd part. I do like "better", especially the Robin guitar outro. That's what I call a great guitar solo, melodious, and with feeling.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 28, 2006, 05:38:16 PM
What's wrong with EVH...?! Call him up Ax!

Oh nothing, just a drunk who could hardly play on the last VH tour. ?I cried when I watched him last :'(.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: HungerForChaos on March 28, 2006, 05:39:54 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

I disagree. Buckethead sounded ALOT better on PC than the slash one...


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Nytunz on March 28, 2006, 05:40:57 PM
Robin is a damn great guitarist! My fav! No one plays riffs like Robin! But if there is to be shredding on CD, like there is on Better and som of the demo.. i think this guy would fith right in. It would end up in harmony! Com`on! ?: ok:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jimb0 on March 28, 2006, 05:41:35 PM
What's wrong with EVH...?! Call him up Ax!

Oh nothing, just a drunk who could hardly play on the last VH tour.  I cried when I watched him last :'(.

That sucks.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: NickNasty on March 28, 2006, 05:43:30 PM
What's wrong with EVH...?! Call him up Ax!

Oh nothing, just a drunk who could hardley play on the last VH tour.  I cried when I watched him last :'(.

true that. worst concert experience of my life >:( :'(

certainly an intersting little bit of gossip, it will be interesting to see if anthing leaks out regarding current rehearsals about another guitarist, although i am of the opinion richard will most likely be taking prime responsibility for leads-if they havent gotten a thrid guitarist yet  (and theres no indication they have), i doubt they will. although Gilby joined the band in short notice back in the day....


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: BLS-Pride on March 28, 2006, 05:44:10 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

I like shredding!
I love Dimebag! And no one can say Dimebag dident have feeling, so there are shredders with feeling to!
This guy would fith right next to Fortus and Finck!

Dime wasn't just a "shredder". Kerry King on the other hand is.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 05:44:48 PM
What's wrong with EVH...?! Call him up Ax!

Oh nothing, just a drunk who could hardly play on the last VH tour. ?I cried when I watched him last :'(.

Maybe so, but at least he has charisma which only Axl in the current band possesses.

Not everyone liked Buckethead but no one can deny he was a character - he made you look. In my opinion, someone like Batio could get very boring, very quickly... ?:-\


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Nytunz on March 28, 2006, 05:47:21 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

I like shredding!
I love Dimebag! And no one can say Dimebag dident have feeling, so there are shredders with feeling to!
This guy would fith right next to Fortus and Finck!

Dime wasn't just a "shredder". Kerry King on the other hand is.

well, not only a shredder, but he said to total guitar once "Im aways gonna be shredding like a motherfucker. I still do my own thing"

soo...


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 28, 2006, 05:49:11 PM
What's wrong with EVH...?! Call him up Ax!

Oh nothing, just a drunk who could hardly play on the last VH tour. ?I cried when I watched him last :'(.

Maybe so, but at least he has charisma which only Axl in the current band possesses.


Riighht. ?These days, it takes an army just to get that lush on stage. ?He's a hideous guitar player that falls down on stage and yells and screams at bandmembers onstage. ?The worst concert I've ever been to. ?He's a has-been. ?And i was a huge EVH fan back in the day.

Sorry for going ot.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 28, 2006, 05:50:29 PM
This whole thing is stupid. Members come and go like socks. What is GNR? could you tell me what it is? ?Why not staying with this current solid line-up? Why changing everything 2 month before Rio? Don't you think it's a little "too late"?
Sometimes I have the impression Axl "buys" his musicians like a bunch of prostitutes. I'd like to see "a band" after all this years, it's not the time to fuck-up the unity of the band again.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: killingvector on March 28, 2006, 05:50:51 PM
To characterize Bucket as a shredder does not do him service. I am not a fan of Angelo at all; I think he is somewhat of a one note organ grinder.  Hopefully, the choice of a new lead will surprise people and be a testament to Bucket's versatility on Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 28, 2006, 05:53:34 PM
To characterize Bucket as a shredder does not do him service. I am not a fan of Angelo at all; I think he is somewhat of a one note organ grinder.? Hopefully, the choice of a new lead will surprise people and be a testament to Bucket's versatility on Chinese Democracy.

From what i've head I'm not to thrilled of MAB either.   If he's the guy, I hope I'm proved wrong.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: DeN on March 28, 2006, 05:55:21 PM
http://www.deanguitars.com/angelo/mab.html

ZzzZzzzZZZzzzZ

hopefully it's bullshit  :hihi:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Voodoochild on March 28, 2006, 05:57:40 PM
This whole thing is stupid. Members come and go like socks. What is GNR? could you tell me what it is?  Why not staying with this current solid line-up? Why changing everything 2 month before Rio? Don't you think it's a little "too late"?
Sometimes I have the impression Axl "buys" his musicians like a bunch of prostitutes. I'd like to see "a band" after all this years, it's not the time to fuck-up the unity of the band again.
It's not official, it's just a rumour yet. So, stop bitching about Axl "buying musicians". This line-up is the almost the same since 2002 and that's a long time enough.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 05:58:18 PM
What's wrong with EVH...?! Call him up Ax!

Oh nothing, just a drunk who could hardly play on the last VH tour. ?I cried when I watched him last :'(.

Maybe so, but at least he has charisma which only Axl in the current band possesses.


Riighht. ?These days, it takes an army just to get that lush on stage. ?He's a hideous guitar player that falls down on stage and yells and screams at bandmembers onstage. ?The worst concert I've ever been to. ?He's a has-been. ?And i was a huge EVH fan back in the day.

Sorry for going ot.

... but charisma is perpetual. If you're born with it, you have it forever. It's not something that goes away. Eddie could be great again, he just needs to stay sober. I've heard Axl is into health these days, he could keep Eddie clean and if you can't raise your game playing for Guns N' Roses then all hope is lost.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 28, 2006, 06:03:39 PM
What's wrong with EVH...?! Call him up Ax!

Oh nothing, just a drunk who could hardly play on the last VH tour. ?I cried when I watched him last :'(.

Maybe so, but at least he has charisma which only Axl in the current band possesses.


Riighht. ?These days, it takes an army just to get that lush on stage. ?He's a hideous guitar player that falls down on stage and yells and screams at bandmembers onstage. ?The worst concert I've ever been to. ?He's a has-been. ?And i was a huge EVH fan back in the day.

Sorry for going ot.

... but charisma is perpetual. If you're born with it, you have it forever. It's not something that goes away. Eddie could be great again, he just needs to stay sober. I've heard Axl is into health these days, he could keep Eddie clean and if you can't raise your game playing for Guns N' Roses then all hope is lost.

I admire your optimism, but things don't always turn out that way.? the man has been the same since the mid 70s.? His wife of over 20 years left him over this stuff.? Sometimes ARC, people just don't change.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: masterdan on March 28, 2006, 06:10:05 PM
Yea, I've heard this guy play on his website... He's pretty damn good!  He's definately good enough to play Buckethead's solo's with no problem.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: masterdan on March 28, 2006, 06:13:01 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

I like shredding!
I love Dimebag! And no one can say Dimebag dident have feeling, so there are shredders with feeling to!
This guy would fith right next to Fortus and Finck!

Dime wasn't just a "shredder". Kerry King on the other hand is.

Actually neither one of them are shredders...  Shredders are guys like John Petrucci, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Steve Vai.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Rune on March 28, 2006, 06:25:13 PM
The guys at talking metal are really into GN'R, they even had a GUNS N' ROSES STAKEOUT (Episode 46)


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 28, 2006, 06:29:58 PM
The guys at talking metal are really into GN'R, they even had a GUNS N' ROSES STAKEOUT (Episode 46)
yeah, they are cool. I like listening to them sometimes. They are probably on this board but Jarmo didn't want to tell me who they were when i PM him. Anyway, if they read this message, they rock. Cool guys? 8)


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: oneway23 on March 28, 2006, 06:34:02 PM
From Slash to some guy with a mullet who plays a double-neck guitar...?  :-\  :confused:

First people bitched about the bucket, now it's a mullet...who really gives two shits?

Quite a lot of people, actually.

The point I was making was that it's not going to matter to some people who Axl replaces Slash with, regardless of musicianship, charisma, and/or talent, and that, to me, is a real shame.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jizz dizz on March 28, 2006, 06:40:59 PM
was a full version of "better" released or did i miss something. also michael angelo is fucking incredible, but buckethead is in my opinion the most solid guitarist possibly ever. ?His playing sounds like nobody else and his like actually out of this world. ?He plays all genres is always innovative and can play as fast as any1 could ever want. ?And if you really think he plays without feeling get his album "Population Override" and the song nottingham lace and to see his awesome speed get the cobra strike albums. ?But Axl is smart for getting another shredder, its the sound of this millenium. ?To have the epic masterpiece sound, that i think hes trying to achieve with stuff like twat, you have to have virtuosos, not just guys who are "Rock n' Roll". ?BTW this is not a knock oon Slash as he is in my top 5 all time guitar list and is who made me really start practicing.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Continental Drift on March 28, 2006, 07:00:35 PM
Very interesting...

It would kind of be cool in the sense that MAB is the type of guy that SHOULD have been a fucking star in the 80's and early 90's- but he just never really latched on to the right band or project... now later on in his career he possibly gets an opportunity like THIS!??! There's some divine justice in all of that if it goes down...

The guy can clearly handle Bucket's parts... and GN'R is always a stronger force with a virtuoso guitarist (Slash, Buckethead).: ok:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: SWINGTRADER on March 28, 2006, 07:12:26 PM
I'd take anybody over Buckethead.  I hate him.  having a robot play unemotional shredding is not what GNR is about. I want somebody that plays great melodic riffs   and that doesn't look like a freak. There is this guitarist that I have seen that i think would be a perfect fit for GNR.  I don't remember his name but he has hair that covers his face and wears a top hat .  Maybe you guys know who I am talking about . 


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Saul on March 28, 2006, 07:13:05 PM
The guys at talking metal are really into GN'R, they even had a GUNS N' ROSES STAKEOUT (Episode 46)
yeah, they are cool. I like listening to them sometimes. They are probably on this board but Jarmo didn't want to tell me who they were when i PM him. Anyway, if they read this message, they rock. Cool guys  8)

actually , it's me and dave(gnfnr2k) ... time to come clean .. we came up with the idea while watching a boston bruins game one night.  :smoking:

 :hihi:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Saul on March 28, 2006, 07:16:06 PM
I'd take anybody over Buckethead.  I hate him.  having a robot play unemotional shredding is not what GNR is about. I want somebody that plays great melodic riffs   and that doesn't look like a freak. There is this guitarist that I have seen that i think would be a perfect fit for GNR.  I don't remember his name but he has hair that covers his face and wears a top hat .  Maybe you guys know who I am talking about . 

Perfect fit , except for the fact that he and axl are suing each other , dont like each other and havent worked together in over a decade. Not to mention mr.hudson has a band of his own and didnt contribute at all to the music about to be released on the new gnr album.

perfect fit? dont think so chump.

as for bucket , I'll ask you to listen to his solo's on TWAT and Madagascar (RIR3 version) , unemotional shredder? You're ignorant , blind or deaf to even say that.



Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Markus Asraelius on March 28, 2006, 07:16:30 PM
I'd take anybody over Buckethead.? I hate him.? having a robot play unemotional shredding is not what GNR is about. I want somebody that plays great melodic riffs? ?and that doesn't look like a freak. There is this guitarist that I have seen that i think would be a perfect fit for GNR.? I don't remember his name but he has hair that covers his face and wears a top hat .? Maybe you guys know who I am talking about .?

You must be talking about Mr. Willy Wonka  : ok:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: mr. moustache on March 28, 2006, 07:33:12 PM
http://www.deanguitars.com/angelo/mab.html

ZzzZzzzZZZzzzZ

hopefully it's bullshit  :hihi:
you can say zzzZZzzzZZZZzz about a lot of bucketheads solo stuff too but when under the control of Axl he put out some KILLER stuff. twat anyone? If you listen to the song is his official site it could fit right on a bucket cd. So this guy can replace bucket easy and i'm hoping he does.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: SWINGTRADER on March 28, 2006, 07:40:33 PM
I'd take anybody over Buckethead.? I hate him.? having a robot play unemotional shredding is not what GNR is about. I want somebody that plays great melodic riffs? ?and that doesn't look like a freak. There is this guitarist that I have seen that i think would be a perfect fit for GNR.? I don't remember his name but he has hair that covers his face and wears a top hat .? Maybe you guys know who I am talking about .?

Perfect fit , except for the fact that he and axl are suing each other , dont like each other and havent worked together in over a decade. Not to mention mr.hudson has a band of his own and didnt contribute at all to the music about to be released on the new gnr album.

perfect fit? dont think so chump.

as for bucket , I'll ask you to listen to his solo's on TWAT and Madagascar (RIR3 version) , unemotional shredder? You're ignorant , blind or deaf to even say that.



the solo in Madagascar is mediocre at best  . The mlk and movie clips make that song.   And the solo no twat has no direction . Madagascar and Twat are songs with an awesome foundation  ( due to Axl's songwriting)  but the guitar work in those songs don't do the songs justice.  They make those songs forgettable.  When you listen to SCOM, NR, Estrange, PC , Jungle  the guitar riffs stay in your mind forever.   You can be the greatest architect ( Axl)  but if you don't have any builders to realize your vision,   what good is it ?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Saul on March 28, 2006, 07:48:43 PM
I'd take anybody over Buckethead.  I hate him.  having a robot play unemotional shredding is not what GNR is about. I want somebody that plays great melodic riffs   and that doesn't look like a freak. There is this guitarist that I have seen that i think would be a perfect fit for GNR.  I don't remember his name but he has hair that covers his face and wears a top hat .  Maybe you guys know who I am talking about . 

Perfect fit , except for the fact that he and axl are suing each other , dont like each other and havent worked together in over a decade. Not to mention mr.hudson has a band of his own and didnt contribute at all to the music about to be released on the new gnr album.

perfect fit? dont think so chump.

as for bucket , I'll ask you to listen to his solo's on TWAT and Madagascar (RIR3 version) , unemotional shredder? You're ignorant , blind or deaf to even say that.



the solo in Madagascar is mediocre at best  . The mlk and movie clips make that song.   And the solo no twat has no direction . Madagascar and Twat are songs with an awesome foundation  ( due to Axl's songwriting)  but the guitar work in those songs don't do the songs justice.  They make those songs forgettable.  When you listen to SCOM, NR, Estrange, PC , Jungle  the guitar riffs stay in your mind forever.   You can be the greatest architect ( Axl)  but if you don't have any builders to realize your vision,   what good is it ?

meh , whats the point I guess. Enjoy yer AFD/UYI's and bootlegs of the old band. G'nite and peace to you. One day hopefully they will create that time machine and you'll be able to enjoy the music again.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: PJ on March 28, 2006, 10:15:49 PM
I'd take anybody over Buckethead.? I hate him.? having a robot play unemotional shredding is not what GNR is about. I want somebody that plays great melodic riffs? ?and that doesn't look like a freak. There is this guitarist that I have seen that i think would be a perfect fit for GNR.? I don't remember his name but he has hair that covers his face and wears a top hat .? Maybe you guys know who I am talking about .?

Perfect fit , except for the fact that he and axl are suing each other , dont like each other and havent worked together in over a decade. Not to mention mr.hudson has a band of his own and didnt contribute at all to the music about to be released on the new gnr album.

perfect fit? dont think so chump.

as for bucket , I'll ask you to listen to his solo's on TWAT and Madagascar (RIR3 version) , unemotional shredder? You're ignorant , blind or deaf to even say that.



the solo in Madagascar is mediocre at best? . The mlk and movie clips make that song.? ?And the solo no twat has no direction . Madagascar and Twat are songs with an awesome foundation? ( due to Axl's songwriting)? but the guitar work in those songs don't do the songs justice.? They make those songs forgettable.? When you listen to SCOM, NR, Estrange, PC , Jungle? the guitar riffs stay in your mind forever.? ?You can be the greatest architect ( Axl)? but if you don't have any builders to realize your vision,? ?what good is it ?
dude you are deaf... and also death if you dont feel the emotion of BH solos in those songs....


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jizz dizz on March 29, 2006, 01:19:07 AM
BUCKETHEAD IS FULL OF EMOTION!  jesus fucking christ! some people are so fuckin superficial that they cant recognize this genius because of the way he looks.  The whole point of Bucket is to seem totally robotic and emotionless in his appearance, but have all his feelings pour through his music and to let the music do the talking entirely.  Listen to like the electric tears album or somethin dude, the man oozes emotion.  Some of the songs are so emotionally provoking, that I can't listen to them all the way through out of fear that I'd break down and cry.  And when he does play those "robotic riffs" there some of the best head-bangin heavy metal shit I've heard in a long while.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: SWINGTRADER on March 29, 2006, 02:07:36 AM
Buckethead= Michael Angelo.  Two technically fast shredders with no writing ability.  I'm not judging buckethead's music based on his looks,  I think Michael Angelo sucks as much as BH  and he doesn't wear a Bucket.  Shredders don't belong in a band like GNR.  it doesn't compliment Axl's songwriting.  Can you imagine  a shredder  writing solos for a song like NR ??  it would suck.  There is a reason why BH doesn't play on the "Blues".  Is Buckethead playing on CITR???  no.    I don't think Buckethead left GNR because of Axl , he left GNR because he knew he couldn't write melodic rock.  Buckethead belongs on instructional DVD's on how to play fast.  he has no business being on stage with a band.   This message board is full of nutswingers  i just don't get it.  I bet you if Axl Rose came out tomorrow and said that BH guitar playing was holding back the process of the music ,  you nutswingers would become BH haters. I just think that you can't admit Axl made a mistake bringing this joke into his band.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Voodoochild on March 29, 2006, 02:40:02 AM
Can you imagine  a shredder  writing solos for a song like NR ??  it would suck.  There is a reason why BH doesn't play on the "Blues".  Is Buckethead playing on CITR???  no.    I don't think Buckethead left GNR because of Axl , he left GNR because he knew he couldn't write melodic rock.
Yeah, that's why Buckethead didn't play the KOHD solo... Wait! :confused:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jizz dizz on March 29, 2006, 02:49:23 AM
actually if axl said bh was holding him back, id say "ur a fuckin idiot axl". ?my love of buckethead does not stem from axl, but for my love for genius on guitar. ?Michael angelo does not equal bucket. ?Bucket is a million times more deep than angelo. ?he would drop a sweet solo on any gnr song. ?He plays extremely melodically. ?he would not try to shred NR's slow parts, but would play a beautiful guitar solo a la "Too Many Humans". ?And shredding at the end of NR would prob sound even better than Slash's solo (OMG Judas! lol). ?u simply cant lump all "shredders" into one category. ?it only shows extreme ignorance on ur part. ?please if u explored bucket's catalogue past the cuckoo clocks of hell (which actually has a lot of funky and melodic playing anyway) you'd see how wrong u really are. ?Im not a fuckin nut swinger, fuck axl, he is tainting gnr's name with his stupid braids, and jerseys to hide his fat. ?He is a musical genius, but also a douchebag. ?changing the name of the band, and getting bucket back, however, would be the best thing he could possibly do. ?With his endless amounts of musicians and no product released, with no words delivered to his insanely loyal fans. ?I mean people are posting thousands of messages over what 4 demos, and 6 concert bootlegs. ?He has fans licking up whatever shit he spews out of the gnr machine that he is pissing on. ?Please axl put down the playstation controller, stop living off of ur past, and make public stop thinking of u as a botoxed over the hill 50 year-old fatass who cant face reality. (sorry about the rant, ill try to stay on topic next time)


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Evolution on March 29, 2006, 03:18:58 AM
I wonder what he means by "may".


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: SWINGTRADER on March 29, 2006, 03:19:26 AM
Maybe it's your hero that turned Axl into a wigger


http://youtube.com/watch?v=KxJBr9PmiUE&search=buckethead


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Origen on March 29, 2006, 04:21:13 AM
There is alot more to being a good guitar player then just stredding the fretboard.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: dzosua on March 29, 2006, 04:21:39 AM
I'm just wondering, how many of you, that have the time to bullshit 'bout playing capabillities of named guitar players, actually held a guitar in their hands? Every fuckin dumb-ass guitarist will tell you, that everyone can (well, sooner or later) learn how to play freakin' fast, so that the guitar will start to sparkle... So I'm asking a question to those who are so infavour of Buckethead and other "shredder" guitarists: how many people know about Steve Vai, John Petrucci, Joe Satriani...? And how many people know 'bout Joe Perry, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Keith Richards, Brian May and eventually Slash?

The only thing that Buckethead really did well, was the solo on Madagascar... But still, Slash would blow him away, as would also Joe Perry and any other "old-school" blues-bassed guitarist, that practices/ed his melodical solos (that actually are build on something) 24/7. BH's outro solo on NR on the 01/02 tour was a fuckin shame to what Slash did... And when someone said that BH does the PC outro solo way better: listen to the one on AFD - if you can play that fast i'll buy you any guitar you want! No matter how hard we try and discuss 'bout G'n'R, a fact remains: a shredder does not fit in the band that has its reputation based upon powerfull voice and guitar solos.

I know, you'll say, oh, just another fuckin Slash fan: BS, the new songs are really, really good, but just not good enough, because there's obviously something missing. Do you know which guitar solos are most rememorable? The ones you can sing along too.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Jonathan on March 29, 2006, 04:22:00 AM
Maybe it's your hero that turned Axl into a wigger


http://youtube.com/watch?v=KxJBr9PmiUE&search=buckethead

Haha, that was awesome.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 29, 2006, 04:55:06 AM
I predict the hell to Axl if he brings a Shredder a second time in GNR. There will be a rebellion during the shows when people hear some fucking shredd on "november rain", they will fucking hate it. We are not in 2002 anymore, the fans are more exigent now than they were in 2002. They are not ready anymore to listen to that shit.

If Axl brings a shredder once again in this band it will be riots, insults, and I can garantee you Axl will not spend a good time at all...
Axl don't be fool.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jimmythegent on March 29, 2006, 05:03:05 AM
I predict the hell to Axl if he brings a Shredder a second time in GNR. There will be a rebellion during the shows when people hear some fucking shredd on "november rain", they will fucking hate it. We are not in 2002 anymore, the fans are more exigent now than they were in 2002. They are not ready anymore to listen to that shit.

If Axl brings a shredder once again in this band it will be riots, insults, and I can garantee you Axl will not spend a good time at all...
Axl don't be fool.


you need to give BH his dues

however...... I find it strange that Axl wants to incorporate that sound into GNR. Obviously it is miles away from the Slash sound, but coupled with that, shredding as in fret tapping, sweeps, pinch harmonics etc.. is very much associated with the 80's. The Van Halens, Vais, Malmsteens etc.. This kind of guitar playing hasn't been heard in the mainstream rock genre for a long time. In fact, Slash was probably the main guy that killled that sound.

Is Axl trying to bring this back - kind of the antithesis to the Slash sound?? Or perhaps as some kind of innovation?

Although BH does take it further than just cheesy shredding, he has a lot more depth than that


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Voodoochild on March 29, 2006, 05:09:53 AM
I predict the hell to Axl if he brings a Shredder a second time in GNR. There will be a rebellion during the shows when people hear some fucking shredd on "november rain", they will fucking hate it. We are not in 2002 anymore, the fans are more exigent now than they were in 2002. They are not ready anymore to listen to that shit.

If Axl brings a shredder once again in this band it will be riots, insults, and I can garantee you Axl will not spend a good time at all...
Axl don't be fool.
You are overreacting. Really.

Although BH does take it further than just cheesy shredding, he has a lot more depth than that
Indeed. He did some amazing jobs in riffs in Better, he wasn't there just to shred and then go away.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Olorin on March 29, 2006, 05:21:37 AM
I predict the hell to Axl if he brings a Shredder a second time in GNR. There will be a rebellion during the shows when people hear some fucking shredd on "november rain", they will fucking hate it. We are not in 2002 anymore, the fans are more exigent now than they were in 2002. They are not ready anymore to listen to that shit.

If Axl brings a shredder once again in this band it will be riots, insults, and I can garantee you Axl will not spend a good time at all...
Axl don't be fool.



PURR-LEASE...

Drop the hystrionics.

Just because a guy likes to shred doesnt mean he is going to shred over every single song, especially world famous solos, for a world famous band he is being asked to play for.

And as for the riots... Sheesh :-[


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: nesquick on March 29, 2006, 05:57:33 AM
I'm sorry but watch that http://youtube.com/watch?v=x59QcJyfBHU&search=michael%20angelo%20batio
Now imagine that during a 2H show... if you can stand that without getting mad, you are a genious. if that's what you want to hear to a GNR gig, well... imagine...that kind of guitar playing during 2Hours non-stop... you will hear that on November rain and all the classics... could you even "think" about that? No way in hell.

This is my last post on that topic. You have to know what kind of guitar player he is. Nothing against the man, he is probably a nice guy, I just speak about the music.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: PJ on March 29, 2006, 11:39:55 AM
I'm sorry but watch that http://youtube.com/watch?v=x59QcJyfBHU&search=michael%20angelo%20batio
Now imagine that during a 2H show... if you can stand that without getting mad, you are a genious. if that's what you want to hear to a GNR gig, well... imagine...that kind of guitar playing during 2Hours non-stop... you will hear that on November rain and all the classics... could you even "think" about that? No way in hell.

This is my last post on that topic. You have to know what kind of guitar player he is. Nothing against the man, he is probably a nice guy, I just speak about the music.
shut up dude we knoe what you think! you post it like 1000 a day! shut up motherfucker!


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Pingouirose on March 29, 2006, 11:53:45 AM
http://www.koreus.com/media/double-guitar.html


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on March 29, 2006, 11:53:50 AM
I'm sorry but watch that http://youtube.com/watch?v=x59QcJyfBHU&search=michael%20angelo%20batio
Now imagine that during a 2H show... if you can stand that without getting mad, you are a genious. if that's what you want to hear to a GNR gig, well... imagine...that kind of guitar playing during 2Hours non-stop... you will hear that on November rain and all the classics... could you even "think" about that? No way in hell.

This is my last post on that topic. You have to know what kind of guitar player he is. Nothing against the man, he is probably a nice guy, I just speak about the music.

Dude, you need to ease up a bit. Just because he shreds does not mean he is gonna shred all over the old songs. He will just be there to do Buckethead's parts. Where there is actual shredding, like in Better. It wont be a whole 2 hour concert shred fest. If you think that your ridiculous. You always blow things way out of proportion.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Backslash on March 29, 2006, 12:09:33 PM
You always blow things way out of proportion.

This is my favourite part of the whole thread!  :hihi:  I think saying "always" is blowing things out of proportion...  :rofl:

Haha, but on topic, I think that Michael Angelo would only shred like crazy when the songs allow him to.  I can't see much shredding happening in November Rain.  Bear in mind also Michael would be replacing Buckethead, not Slash.  To me, if you're going to have a shredder, make sure he's the best!  Slash isn't a shredder and Axl doesn't want a Slash.  He wants someone who could make fans realize that he can make it without Slash.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ppbebe on March 29, 2006, 12:59:41 PM
Judging from the way he talks, Michelangelo seems a nice person but somehow his guitar sounds no way as refreshing as BHs. 
If they're looking for a replacement, then BH is not coming back, sad really. :-\

Im not a fuckin nut swinger, fuck axl, he is tainting gnr's name with his stupid braids, and jerseys to hide his fat.  He is a musical genius, but also a douchebag. 
I never understand why people love the idea of a musical genius and a douche bag so much.
I wouldn't.

While I agree on what you said about BH, I think not everything is Axl's fault. I hear he'd defend BH till BH quitted. And a taint of GNR name? I don't think it tainted but even so is it your business?  I like braids and I see nothing wrong with the jerseys. Moreover, Teenage girls today consider him even cooler than elvis costello.

likewise,
Steve Vai, John Petrucci, Joe Satriani...? And how many people know 'bout Joe Perry, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Keith Richards, Brian May and eventually Slash?

I know, you'll say, oh, just another fuckin Slash fan: BS, the new songs are really, really good, but just not good enough, because there's obviously something missing. Do you know which guitar solos are most rememorable? The ones you can sing along too.

Which you've listened to like for more than a decade.
I don't think your poor memory and slow understanding of modern stuff are their fault.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on March 29, 2006, 01:26:16 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

Here you go again talking about Buckethead having no feeling in his playing and proving yet again that you know little of the man or his music  :P

Just because someone is capable of shredding doesn't mean that's all they're capable of.  But according to you if someone is able to shred and does so, they lack emotion


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 29, 2006, 01:34:17 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

Here you go again talking about Buckethead having no feeling in his playing and proving yet again that you know little of the man or his music? :P


Come on, you know Nesquicks got a reputation to uphold right? :hihi:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Markus Asraelius on March 29, 2006, 01:43:23 PM
He is a better shredder than buckethead but that's not the point. The point is that he is a shredder and that he is unable to play with a minimum of FEELING.

Here you go again talking about Buckethead having no feeling in his playing and proving yet again that you know little of the man or his music? :P


Come on, you know Nesquicks got a reputation to uphold right? :hihi:

Yeah and that's a reputation of arrogance and nobody but his opinions matter.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ppbebe on March 29, 2006, 01:50:06 PM
mates...

Lately I came to think that Nesquick might not be all that serious but clowing around in order to remind us of BH. :'(


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on March 29, 2006, 02:47:15 PM

It's also insulting for Richard and Robin, it's like "guys you aren't good enough".

They can't play Buckethead's parts.  That's not insulting, it's just the truth.  They're both very capable players but neither of them could pull off the solos on IRS, Better or even TWAT.  I also find it interesting that you always bash Buckethead when he was able to play the solos from the old GnR songs much better than Robin or Richard did.  His solos on Nightrain, KOHD, and especially November Rain when they each played one solo showed how good Buckethead was at playing the old GnR stuff.  I like Robin, but he butchered the SCOM and second November Rain solo  :'(


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: CAFC Nick on March 29, 2006, 02:47:56 PM
Maybe Richard or Robin can shred?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Origen on March 29, 2006, 02:50:53 PM
Maybe Richard or Robin can shred?

I think to shred some of his parts you would need to be a virtuoso guitarist, and neither of them are.


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: conny on March 29, 2006, 03:57:35 PM
And when someone said that BH does the PC outro solo way better: listen to the one on AFD - if you can play that fast i'll buy you any guitar you want!

Well I can play three times as fast, and I tell you Perry and Slash are guitarists for the masses, and shredders like Buckethead and Batio are guitar players for...well, guitar players? I don't know, but their playing requires a lot more attention from the listener than a Joe Perry blues solo does. You can only FULLY get and appreciate that shit if you are DEEP INTO MUSIC, and the same can be said about the better half of the GN'R catalogue. So in MIXING blues based guitar playing with a shredder, Axl revealed yet another part of his musical genius open to those able to fuckin' realise. Listen to Buckethead playing "Nightrain" on the last tour, preferably in the London (Canada) concert. If you can play that at all, I'll buy you a guitar solo.





Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 29, 2006, 05:15:03 PM
This guy is GOOD
http://angelo.com/speed_lives_mab.wmv


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Continental Drift on March 29, 2006, 05:47:24 PM
Guys like Batio will drive blues-based rock guitar purists nuts.... but how many of those people are actually in the crowd at a rock concert in 2006 anyway!? I think most people, myself included, when they go to a concert want to see a guitarist deliver a jaw dropping performance with the guitar that will leave you stunned for a good week or so... no matter if it's traditional hard rock, shredding or whatever... Batio has that capability. Plus, he'll bring a much needed "WOW" factor to the band- that Robin and Richard (as great as they are) just won't provide.

Everytime I've ever been to a GN'R concert- I find that I am transfixed by Axl and whoever the virtuoso lead guitarist is (Slash, Buckethead)... Batio would keep that tradition going.... I refuse to get excited about it though... he probably pissed Axl off by talking about it for all we know. :nervous:


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: jizz dizz on March 29, 2006, 09:40:35 PM
OK, so if we don't like shredders we're ignorant.? I don't think it's fair to say that Slash, Page, Perry, etc are not as good as the shredders because more people like them.

no dumbass, ur ignorant if u lump all "shredders" into this category of speed-machines with a one-track mind.  Being ignorant means that u try to make statements about something without really being educated on a subject.  Great, a guitarist can play fast, but that doesn't mean that hes not capable of incredible melodies aswell.  And i didnt say that slash, page, and perry arent as good as "shredders".  I love all three of them and slash and page are in my top 5 guitarist list.  Please don't put words in my mouth asshole.  Just because some1 has put in the countless hours of becoming a virtuoso does not mean that they've lost all feeling.  Look at every great classical musician, they're all virtuosos and they have incredible feeling in their music.  Please buy the "Population Override" album before u make anymore stupid comments (this is not entirely directed at u GeorgeSteele).  It's like people judge Buckethead poorly, because he is good at his instrument lol.  And dont write back "no we judge him because all he does is shred his ass off" BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE!!!! goddamnit download "Super Human".  fucking idiots  Oh and also is BUckethead a wigger for writing a tribute song to some guy who died, that happened to be a rapper, that makes sense.  A guy who wears a goddamn bucket and kabuki mask, whos obsessed with robotts and video games and anime and toys and this other weird shit is really a wigger.  [sarcasm mode off] 


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on March 29, 2006, 09:57:08 PM
This guy is GOOD
http://angelo.com/speed_lives_mab.wmv

Wow I'd take that in GNR any day.. If anyone can say Buckethead's Old Mcdonald solo is better that that, they'd need help


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Wooody on March 29, 2006, 10:40:12 PM
he is one ugly mofo, wtf is that mop on his head ?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: SWINGTRADER on March 30, 2006, 01:34:52 AM
shredding guitar has never impressed me.  music is about feeling not speed .   If music was about speed  than the guy that talked fast in the Micromachines commercials would have been the best singer ever. For me Buckethead and Angelo are no different than a circus act ( juggler) .   I will always hate it.   Slash , paige, May,  Perry  etc  rule !


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Millions on March 30, 2006, 07:03:57 AM
"It's like trying to replace your wife by becoming an homo while you are not."

Nice one, nesquick - thats the funniest thing I've seen on this board in ages!


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: kupirock on March 30, 2006, 07:54:43 AM
This guy is GOOD
http://angelo.com/speed_lives_mab.wmv

This guy is OLD, maybe 70?


Title: Re: GN'R mention on Talkingmetal.com
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 30, 2006, 09:23:20 AM
he is one ugly mofo, wtf is that mop on his head ?
Oh so you like pretty guitar players? :-*