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Title: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 16, 2006, 02:49:11 AM
Here's my stab:

Guns N' Roses - Better

(Intro)
No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.


The hardest part this troubled heart has never
yet been through now.
We've healed the scars that got their start
inside someone like you now.

Well had I known that I'd been shown back
when I longed you'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could no
matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I'll bury it and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
You know I'd know...(END)



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Spirit on February 16, 2006, 02:50:41 AM
Yeah, that looks like it's right! :)


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Midnight Gunner on February 16, 2006, 02:53:36 AM
I concur...I was actually singing along to the song with your lyrics and they worked fine for me.

Thanx.  :beer:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on February 16, 2006, 02:54:07 AM
Here's my stab:

Guns N' Roses - Better

(Intro)
No one ever told me when I was alone
that you know I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
I just know I'd know better, better.


The hardest part this troubled heart has never
yet been through now.
We've healed the scars that got their start
inside someone like you now.

Well had I known that I'd been shown back
when I longed you'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could no
matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole me heart
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I'll bury it and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
You know I'd know...(END)



You pretty much nailed it


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: DunkinDave on February 16, 2006, 02:55:14 AM
Quote
No one ever told me when I was alone
that you know I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
I just know I'd know better, better.

Those two lines sound like something else.

But otherwise - good job.

 :beer:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: younggunner on February 16, 2006, 02:58:54 AM
the intro is isck


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: ClintroN on February 16, 2006, 03:08:32 AM
Quote
No one ever told me when I was alone
that you know I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
I just know I'd know better, better.

Those two lines sound like something else.

But otherwise - good job.

 :beer:

I agree mate, other then that, well bloody done Minzhu!!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Kaybee on February 16, 2006, 03:14:44 AM
Wow, that was done well! Thanks for posting them  : ok:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dboyd13 on February 16, 2006, 03:16:15 AM
 Wow very nice, Im about to cross 50 times for itunes now.   What a jam!!!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Spirit on February 16, 2006, 03:16:38 AM
Quote
No one ever told me when I was alone
that you know I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
I just know I'd know better, better.

Those two lines sound like something else.

But otherwise - good job.

 :beer:

Think it seems right, although I think it should be I just know I'd know better, better both times...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Megaguns on February 16, 2006, 03:34:25 AM
Sounds like he wrote that song about a chick???? Erin everly or steph seymour?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: F*ck Fear on February 16, 2006, 03:40:05 AM
Quote
No one ever told me when I was alone
that you know I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
I just know I'd know better, better.

Those two lines sound like something else.

But otherwise - good job.

 :beer:

Noone ever told me when I was alone
That you though I knew Better,better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: metallex78 on February 16, 2006, 03:44:14 AM
Wow, those are spot on!
You've got some good ears there!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: lookingforbigfoot on February 16, 2006, 04:04:41 AM
Ok - pet peeve of mine - people who praise people who post obviolsly incorrect lyrics...I mean, some of those lines don't even make sense.

I think this is a little more accurate, but some words are inaudible...like the first like, I think it's 'I'd know' but it could be 'I knew'  - but I think 'I'd know' makes more sense. There's a 'but' that might be a 'that' but I think it's a 'but'

So go ahead correct these, but please please please for the sake of my sanity, don't 10 people reply saying how 'spot on' and awesome obviously incorrect lyrics that don't even make sense are.  Things I think might not be right in ().

First time post here, because I think it's finally here...

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now

(inaudible) heal the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Oh had I known
Or I'd been shown
Back when how long it'd take me

To break the (inaudble)
That brought me home
(And all but (that?) would erase me)

I never would
Know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me

Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew
Was that with you
I'd want someone to save me

It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and maybe

All that I wanted was...

Now I know you better,
You know I know...



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Timothy on February 16, 2006, 04:12:03 AM


(inaudible) heal the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now




I think the part you don't have is you

You heal the scars


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 16, 2006, 04:19:43 AM
Bigfoot, just no offense, but just because you can't hear them doesn't mean other people can't. I personally can hear them very clearly. I'm not saying they're 100% confirmed, it's just what I think they are...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Eazy E on February 16, 2006, 04:41:34 AM
First time post here, because I think it's finally here...

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

This is correct... you guys need to listen to it on headphones!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: alexander on February 16, 2006, 04:47:56 AM
Here's my stab:

Guns N' Roses - Better

(Intro)
No one ever told me when I was alone
that you know I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
I just know I'd know better, better.


The hardest part this troubled heart has never
yet been through now.
We've healed the scars that got their start
inside someone like you now.

Well had I known that I'd been shown back
when I longed you'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could no
matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole me heart
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I'll bury it and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
You know I'd know...(END)


can anyone please tell me where to go to hear better????????????????????


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Megaguns on February 16, 2006, 04:48:44 AM
I agree with bigfoots lyrics.......... I hope we get the rest of the song soon!!!!!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: alexander on February 16, 2006, 04:53:07 AM
I agree with bigfoots lyrics.......... I hope we get the rest of the song soon!!!!!
CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE TO GO TO HEAR BETTER????????????????????


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: lookingforbigfoot on February 16, 2006, 04:54:22 AM
I don't think it's 'you heal the scars' that doesnt make sense or fit in with the lyrics....

I think it might be "we've" but even with headphones cranked I can't make out the word. ?It could be I've or I, but I'm pretty sure it's not you...

And to the guy who posted the original lyrics - no need to get snarky, if you read my post I didn't bash you or your interpertation of the lyrics - just the several people who posted after you...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 07:35:31 AM
Try THIS and I'm pretty sure you'll work out the lyrics...  ;)

By Estrangedfx from mygnr:

Quote
Well,I'm sure everyone here has windows media player,correct?Well,I was just tinkering around with it.I opened up the enhancements options and flipped the balance all the way to the left and guess what?? Everything you couldn't hear because of the guitar, YOU CAN NOW! Particularly,the intro and Axl's vocals.Minus the guitar,they are as clear as hell.So yes,I realize it sounds ridiculous,but it really works.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 07:40:35 AM
I think this is it...

Guns N' Roses - Better

(Intro)
No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.


The hardest part this troubled heart has never
yet been through now.
We've healed the scars that got their start (this sounds like something else)
inside someone like you now.

Well had I known or I'd been shown
back when how long it'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could
no matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I fell in love and baby...

...all that I wanted was...

Now I know you better,
You know I'd... (I don't think there's another "know" here, too many...)


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 07:54:05 AM
Well had I known or I'd been shown
back when how long it'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

shouldnt it be

Well had I known or had i been shown ? ... question no ?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 07:57:46 AM
Well had I known or I'd been shown
back when how long it'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

shouldnt it be

Well had I known or had i been shown ? ... question no ?

I know it should but it doesn't sound like it....  :-\


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 08:09:05 AM
Well had I known or I'd been shown
back when how long it'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

shouldnt it be

Well had I known or had i been shown ? ... question no ?

I know it should but it doesn't sound like it....  :-\

yeah, and with the " it don't really matter" from CD , we know axl ain't shakespear :)
;)


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 16, 2006, 08:19:45 AM
I think you may be right with "back when how long it'd take me." And as far as the end, at the very, very end, I hear a 'n/kn', so I guess I used creative licenses...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 08:32:27 AM
I think you may be right with "back when how long it'd take me." And as far as the end, at the very, very end, I hear a 'n/kn', so I guess I used creative licenses...

I understand that, but then there would be too many "know"s there, and I don't Axl would ever do that ...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: PJ on February 16, 2006, 10:49:26 AM
the lyrics are aweseome.. one of the best ever written by WAR...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Axlfreek on February 16, 2006, 05:20:53 PM
any body want to post the lyrics for better

 :beer:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 16, 2006, 05:25:09 PM
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=25351.0

Already discussed. : ok:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Evolution on February 16, 2006, 05:29:24 PM
I already enjoy singing along to Better  :hihi:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: kyrie on February 17, 2006, 01:31:34 AM
I agree with bigfoots lyrics.......... I hope we get the rest of the song soon!!!!!
CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE TO GO TO HEAR BETTER????????????????????

An audiologist?

yuk yuk yuk... I'll be here all week folks! :P


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on February 17, 2006, 01:44:45 AM
Try THIS and I'm pretty sure you'll work out the lyrics...? ;)

By Estrangedfx from mygnr:

Quote
Well,I'm sure everyone here has windows media player,correct?Well,I was just tinkering around with it.I opened up the enhancements options and flipped the balance all the way to the left and guess what?? Everything you couldn't hear because of the guitar, YOU CAN NOW! Particularly,the intro and Axl's vocals.Minus the guitar,they are as clear as hell.So yes,I realize it sounds ridiculous,but it really works.


Wow that works so great.. after that, i'm 100% thats axl singing the intro


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: younggunner on February 17, 2006, 06:59:33 PM
axl is def singing the intro


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: ItsRDC on February 17, 2006, 10:59:00 PM
This is what I have for the 2:06 "Better"
Edit: added "spark" line
Edit 2:  Added some changes from SOH
 
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now

You'd heal the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Oh had I known
Or I'd been shown
Back when how long it'd take me

To break the charge
That brought me home
(And all but (that?) would erase me)

I never would
Know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me

Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew
Was that with you
I'd want someone to save me

It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and maybe

All that I wanted was...

Now I know you better,
You know I know better
Never love you better

So bitersweet this tragedy
Won't ask for absolution

This melody, inside of me
Still searches for solution

A twist a fate, a change of heart
Kills my infatuation

A broken heart to provide the spark
For my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: killingvector on February 17, 2006, 11:01:19 PM
what an incredible song


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on February 17, 2006, 11:02:38 PM
oh my god, i couldnt believe what i just heard..  perfection, perfection!!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Colt 1911 on February 17, 2006, 11:03:05 PM
thanks for it bro and thanks for the lyrics.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: just_one on February 17, 2006, 11:03:07 PM
HOLY SHIT!!!!! :o :o

I LOVE IT ?;D :peace: : ok:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Stupid Head on February 17, 2006, 11:03:33 PM
Why are they fucking with us? Put out the full song!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: DOASHK on February 17, 2006, 11:08:21 PM
yeah its weird that we get leaked songs in pieces but whatever, i hope the full version leaks tonight, cause it sounds fricken superb


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: BrokenGlass on February 17, 2006, 11:09:51 PM
Oh my God some kind soul out there send this to me!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: estranged.1098 on February 17, 2006, 11:11:13 PM
"A broken heart <something>
For my determination "

Maybe it's "Provides the spark"?

This song fucking rocks!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 17, 2006, 11:11:37 PM
Guns N' Roses - Better

(Intro)
No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.


The hardest part this troubled heart has never
yet been through now.
We've healed the scars that got their start
inside someone like you now.

Well had I known or I'd been shown back
when I longed you'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could
no matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
You know I'd know better,
now I know you better!

So bittersweet, this tragedy won't ask for absolution,
this melody inside of me still searches for solution,
a twist of fate, a change of heart,
kills my infatuation,
a broken heart, provides the spark for my determination,

no one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better.
ooh, no one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: F*ck Fear on February 17, 2006, 11:13:05 PM
I would like to know why the full track wasn't released instead of an extra minute version?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: just_one on February 17, 2006, 11:14:07 PM
I would like to know why the full track wasn't released instead of an extra minute version?

great question!!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on February 17, 2006, 11:15:22 PM
the full version will come, don't worry..


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Genesis on February 17, 2006, 11:15:40 PM
I would like to know why the full track wasn't released instead of an extra minute version?

They like teasing us fans. The full version will prob. be out soon.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: McClane on February 17, 2006, 11:17:12 PM
Stop playing with us...release the full song !!! Come on !


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: phreakofnature on February 17, 2006, 11:18:51 PM
This song is like nothign I have ever heard before. Simply amazing!  THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MUSIC NEEDS RIGHT NOW!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Grouse on February 17, 2006, 11:19:01 PM
argh too much for one night twat and longer version of better, it's 5 in the morning here right now I can't even make out what axl's singing.....I gotta get some sleep :crying:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Jdawg on February 17, 2006, 11:20:56 PM
Damn, out of the three "Better" is kicking my ass!!!!!! Especially the extended version.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: McClane on February 17, 2006, 11:26:13 PM
Wow !!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Cowboy Buddha on February 17, 2006, 11:29:12 PM
Cool cool Coolio!  Thanks


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: McClane on February 17, 2006, 11:35:18 PM
TABARNAC !!!! BETTER IS BY FAR THE BEST OF THE 3 LEAKED SONGS !!!!!


I can't imagine this song won't be the first single...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: badapplex on February 17, 2006, 11:35:50 PM
New to the board,quite the old man to the forum ... This extended version is excellent! I had an idea in my mind how it would go on after the initial 1:20 version,but this definitely exceeded expectations.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Jizzo on February 18, 2006, 04:52:45 AM
has the longer version been transcribed


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: strohs on February 18, 2006, 05:04:38 AM
last part

so bittersweet this tragedy
will ask for absolution
this melody inside of me still searches for solution
a twist of fate and change of heart cures my infatutation(sp)
a broken heart to hide the spot...........dont know

that's what i got


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Sillything on February 18, 2006, 06:34:49 AM
Sleeping and working is even more of a bitch these days and nights and hours...I still don't know if There Was A Time when i liked it. My longing for something Better is now even more extended but I'am a bit lost here...Do you guys know the way?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: ChrisGuy on February 20, 2006, 12:43:57 AM
last part

so bittersweet this tragedy
will ask for absolution
this melody inside of me still searches for solution
a twist of fate and change of heart cures my infatutation(sp)
a broken heart to hide the spot...........dont know

that's what i got


-----------------------------------------

The don't know part part I THINK is
a broken heart to hide the spot,  for my determination


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: ItsRDC on February 20, 2006, 12:50:58 AM
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part this troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now

You'd heal the scars that got their start
Inside someone like you now

Oh had I known or I'd been shown
Back when how long it'd take me

To break the charge that brought me home
(And all but (that?) would erase me)

I never would know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me

Replay the part you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me

It'd be enough but just my luck
I fell in love and maybe

All that I wanted was...

Now I know you better,
You know I know better
Never love you better

So bitersweet this tragedy
Won't ask for absolution

This melody, inside of me
Still searches for solution

A twist a fate, a change of heart
Kills my infatuation

A broken heart provides the spark
For my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on February 20, 2006, 01:00:16 AM
BETTER


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part this troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now

You'd heal the scars that got their start
Inside someone like you now

Oh had I known or I'd been shown
Back when how long it'd take me

To break the charge that brought me home
It?s all that won?t erase me??

I never would know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me

Replay the part you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me

It'd be enough but just my luck
I fell in love and maybe

All that I wanted was...

Now I know you better,
You know I know better
Never love you better

So bitersweet this tragedy
Won't ask for absolution

This melody, inside of me
Still searches for solution

A twist a fate, a change of heart
Kills my infatuation

A broken heart provides the spark
For my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Throatrake on February 20, 2006, 10:10:29 PM
A broken heart TO PRVOVIDE the spark for my determination.

Does that sound right to anyone?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on February 20, 2006, 11:15:55 PM
A broken heart TO PRVOVIDE the spark for my determination.

Does that sound right to anyone?

I think Throatrake is correct.  Plus, I'd add another revision to Dave's (who BTW does a great job on this stuff)..."to break the CHARMS that brought me home."  That's just what I hear and it fits.  Whaddaya think?    ???


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: jazjme on February 20, 2006, 11:18:28 PM
^ I hear the ame thing myself axl4rprez


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Lucky on February 21, 2006, 05:36:43 PM

the only update is this:

"No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better."

and it should be

"No one ever told me when I was wrong
they just thought I'd know better, better."




Better; Lyrics


No one ever told me when I was wrong
they just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was wrong
they just thought I'd know better, better.


The hardest part this troubled heart has never
yet been through now.
We've healed the scars that got their start
inside someone like you now.

Well had I known or I'd been shown back
when I longed you'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could
no matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
You know I'd know better,
now I know you better!

So bittersweet, this tragedy won't ask for absolution,
this melody inside of me still searches for solution,
a twist of fate, a change of heart,
kills my infatuation,
a broken heart, provides the spark for my determination,

no one ever told me when I was wrong
they just thought I'd know better, better.
ooh, no one ever told me when I was wrong
they just thought I'd know better, better.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: killingvector on February 21, 2006, 05:37:54 PM
I hear alone, not wrong.....


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: warrocks on February 23, 2006, 03:17:21 PM
someone has the entire lyrics? now that exist the full version?  :confused: :nervous:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: echrisl on February 23, 2006, 04:51:27 PM
someone has the entire lyrics? now that exist the full version?  :confused: :nervous:

I'm going to work on them for a bit, and give it a shot.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: KIKO2K6 on February 23, 2006, 05:02:56 PM
full version? IT WAS LEAKED ?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Markus Asraelius on February 23, 2006, 05:03:37 PM
It's alone, not wrong.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: younggunner on February 23, 2006, 05:22:51 PM
almsot done with the lyrics

BETTER


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part this troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now
You'd heal the scars that got their start
Inside someone like you now

Oh had I known or I'd been shown
Back when how long it'd take me
To break the charge that brought me home
It?s all that won?t erase me

I never would know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me
Replay the part you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me

It'd be enough but just my luck
I fell in love and maybe

All that I wanted was...

Now I know you better,
You know I know better
Never love you better

So bitersweet this tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody, inside of me
Still searches for solution

A twist a fate, a change of heart
Kills my infatuation
A broken heart provides the spark
For my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was...
I don't know no Better
You dont know no better
No you, know it better!

Solo

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
i never wanted you to be somebody else
i never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themself
i only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted was
Now I know you better
Now we know all know better
All that I wanted was..

Solo

If I were you Id bet its true for more then invitation?



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: echrisl on February 23, 2006, 05:26:11 PM
Here's what I've got, I'm pretty confident it's close.  I put the *parts* I'm hazy on inside *these* thingys:


No one ever told me when I was alone,
They just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone,
They just thought I'd know better, better.

The hardest part this troubled heart,
Has ever yet been through now.
We've healed the scars that got their start,
Inside someone like you now.

Well had I known or have been shown,
Back when I longed you'd take me.
To break the *chains* that brought me home,
And all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could,
No matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part you stole my heart,
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you,
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was ...

Now I know you better,
You know I'd know better,
Yeah I know you better!

So bittersweet this tragedy,
Won't ask for absolution.
This melody inside of me,
Still searches for solution.
A twist of fate the change of heart,
Kills my infatuation.
A broken heart to provide the spark,
For my determination.

No one ever told me when I was alone,
They just thought I'd know better, better.
Ooh, no one ever told me when I was alone,
They just thought I'd know better, better.

All that I wanted was ...
I know you know you know better,
You know I know you know better,
Yeah you know me better.

I never wanted you to be someone *but I know,*
I never wanted you to be somebody else.
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves.
I only wanted you to see things for yourself.

All that I wanted was ...
Now I know you better.
Yeah we all know better.
All that I wanted was ...

All that *I was ...*
All that *anger.*
All that *I was ...*
All that *anger.*

This time with you,
I bet it's true,
Hope more than *either irritation or invitation.*

Oh promised love,
That can keep up,
With your aggrivation.

Just use your head,
And in the end,
You'll find your inspiration.

To choose your steps,
And won't regret,
This kind of aggrevation.

No one ever told me when I was alone,
They just though I'd know better.
No one ever told me when I was alone,
They just though I'd know better.

EDIT:  Corrected spelling of inspiration.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Mr.Intensity on February 23, 2006, 05:27:54 PM
I am sure he says this.....

[Solo]

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themself
I only wanted you to see things for yourself


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: echrisl on February 23, 2006, 05:28:11 PM
I am sure he says this.....

[Solo]

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themself
I only wanted you to see things for yourself


Yeah, that's it!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Mr.Intensity on February 23, 2006, 05:29:54 PM
I am sure he says this.....

[Solo]

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themself
I only wanted you to see things for yourself


Yeah, that's it!

He sounds damn good when he is screaming there too..... Axl/the musicians just have to make the transitions smoother in the song.. its kind of a bumpy ride if you know what I mean... But I like what I hear.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 23, 2006, 05:31:15 PM
Guns N' Roses - Better

(Intro)
No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.


The hardest part this troubled heart has never
yet been through now.
We've healed the scars that got their start
inside someone like you now.

Well had I known or I'd been shown back
when how long it'd take me
to break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could
no matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
You know I'd know better,
now I know you better!

So bittersweet, this tragedy won't ask for absolution,
this melody inside of me still searches for solution,
a twist of faith, a change of heart kills my infatuation,
a broken heart provides the spark for my determination,

no one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better.
ooh, no one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better.

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
you know I know you know better
now you know me better

(solo)

I never wanted you to be so full of anger,
I never wanted you to be somebody else,
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves,
I only wanted you to see things for yourself,

All that I wanted was
now I know you better,
now we all know better,
all that I wanted was

(solo)

just knowing you, I bet it's true,
a point of invitation,
upon this love, I gave you up, with your adoration
just use your head and in the end,
you'll find your inspiration,
so choose your steps, I won't regret,
this time with admiration,

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.
No one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: ItsRDC on February 23, 2006, 05:32:32 PM
Here's my version of it

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part this troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now
You'd heal the scars that got their start
Inside someone like you now
Oh had I known or I'd been shown
Back when how long it'd take me
To break the charge that brought me home
(And all but (that?) would erase me)
I never would know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me
Replay the part you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy
If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough but just my luck
I fell in love and maybe

All that I wanted was...

Now I know you better,
You know I know better
Never love you better

So bitersweet this tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody, inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist a fate, a change of heart
Kills my infatuation
A broken heart provides the spark
For my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was...
I know you know, you know better
You know, you know, you know better
Now you know me better

[solo]
I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted was...
Now I know you better
Now we all know better

All that I wanted was..
[solo]

<Something>
I know better

Baby if I were you, I'd manage to
Avoid the invitation
A promised love that can't keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You'll find your inspiration
To choose your steps and won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: warrocks on February 23, 2006, 05:33:29 PM
 ;D woohoo ?:beer: I love this song i've been listening to it all day long ..my mom is going nut! ?:hihi:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Mr.Intensity on February 23, 2006, 05:34:15 PM
;D woohoo ?:beer: I love this song i've been listening to it all day long ..my mom is going nut! ?:hihi:

Yeah, it definitely is a great demo... it just needs to be polished up a little bit.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: echrisl on February 23, 2006, 05:42:58 PM
I'm pretty certain now that at least some of that last part in mine is wrong ... I'll leave it to the next lucky contestant ...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 23, 2006, 06:58:08 PM
I'm pretty positive the last half goes like this:

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
you know I know you know better
now you know me better

(solo)

I never wanted you to be so full of anger,
I never wanted you to be somebody else,
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves,
I only wanted you to see things for yourself,

All that I wanted was
now I know you better,
now we all know better,
all that I wanted was

(solo)

just knowing you, I bet it's true,
a point of invitation,
upon this love thatgave you up, with your adoration
just use your head and in the end,
you'll find your inspiration,
to choose your steps, I won't regret,
this kind of aggrivation,

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.
No one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: F*ck Fear on February 23, 2006, 10:17:31 PM
I'm pretty positive the last half goes like this:

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
you know I know you know better
now you know me better

(solo)

I never wanted you to be so full of anger,
I never wanted you to be somebody else,
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves,
I only wanted you to see things for yourself,

All that I wanted was
now I know you better,
now we all know better,
all that I wanted was

(solo)

just knowing you, I bet it's true,
a point of invitation,
upon this love thatgave you up, with your adoration
just use your head and in the end,
you'll find your inspiration,
to choose your steps, I won't regret,
this kind of aggrivation,

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.
No one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better...


From what I can tell,that looks about right.
Good job man :beer:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Jizzo on February 24, 2006, 12:03:24 AM
its hard to tell the lyrics cause the version i have is all diced up


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: mrvics on February 24, 2006, 03:16:38 AM
I'm pretty positive the last half goes like this:

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
you know I know you know better
now you know me better

(solo)

I never wanted you to be so full of anger,
I never wanted you to be somebody else,
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves,
I only wanted you to see things for yourself,

All that I wanted was
now I know you better,
now we all know better,
all that I wanted was

(solo)

just knowing you, I bet it's true,
a point of invitation,
upon this love thatgave you up, with your adoration
just use your head and in the end,
you'll find your inspiration,
to choose your steps, I won't regret,
this kind of aggrivation,

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.
No one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better...


Ok, after the last solo, you've got  alot of it wrong.
Check this:

"This melody inside of me
 Still searches for a solution.
A twist of fate, a change of heart
Killed my infatuation..."

Solo

"If I were you, I'd manage to
Avoid an invitation
Of promised Love
That can't keep up
With your adoration.
Just use your head and in the end
You'll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
And won't regret this kind of admiration."


V~


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dont_damn_me on February 24, 2006, 04:28:58 AM
Anyone else hear it like this?

A broken heart TO HIDE the spark
For my determination

Thanks to whoever posted the link earlier tonight! :peace:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: WARose on February 24, 2006, 05:15:24 AM
i love the vocal melodies and the rhymes... great work axl!!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on February 24, 2006, 10:15:25 AM
No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better
Ooh, No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better

The hardest part this troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now
We?ve healed the scars that got their start
Inside someone like you now
Well had I know or I?d been shown
Back when I?d long you?d take me
To break the charge that brought me home
And all that won?t erase me

I never would, not that I could
No matter what you?d pay me
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you?re crazy
If all I knew was that with you
I?d want someone to save me
It be enough, but just my luck
I fell in love and baby
All that I wanted was

Now I?d call you better
You know I?d know better
Now I know you better

So bittersweet this tragedy
Won?t ask for  absolution
This melody inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate, the change of heart
Kills my infatuation
A broken heart to hide the spark
For my determination


No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better
Ooh, No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better

All that I wanted was

I know you know
You know better
You know I know
You know better
Now you know me better

I never wanted you to be
So full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be
Someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted was
Now I call you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was

All I want now
All I want now
All I want now
All I want now
If I were you I?d manage to
(All I want now)
Abort the invitation
A promised love that can?t
Keep up with your  adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps and won?t regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better
No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: RocketKing_LA on February 24, 2006, 01:33:47 PM
No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better
Ooh, No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better

The hardest part this troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now
We?ve healed the scars that got their start
Inside someone like you now
Well had I know or I?d been shown
Back when I?d long you?d take me
To break the charge that brought me home
And all that won?t erase me

I never would, not that I could
No matter what you?d pay me
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you?re crazy
If all I knew was that with you
I?d want someone to save me
It be enough, but just my luck
I fell in love and baby
All that I wanted was

Now I?d call you better
You know I?d know better
Now I know you better

So bittersweet this tragedy
Won?t ask for? absolution
This melody inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate, the change of heart
Kills my infatuation
A broken heart to hide the spark
For my determination


No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better
Ooh, No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better

All that I wanted was

I know you know
You know better
You know I know
You know better
Now you know me better

I never wanted you to be
So full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be
Someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted was
Now I call you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was

All I want now
All I want now
All I want now
All I want now
If I were you I?d manage to
(All I want now)
Abort the invitation
A promised love that can?t
Keep up with your? adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps and won?t regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better
No one ever told me
When I was alone
They just thought I?d know better
Better

.

*ding-ding-ding*... we have a winner!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: VelvetGoldman on February 24, 2006, 04:02:45 PM


"Jesus...he knows me...
 He knows...I'm right..."

YOU are crazy.
 :smoking:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: D on February 24, 2006, 04:40:06 PM
Ok - pet peeve of mine - people who praise people who post obviolsly incorrect lyrics...I mean, some of those lines don't even make sense.

I think this is a little more accurate, but some words are inaudible...like the first like, I think it's 'I'd know' but it could be 'I knew'  - but I think 'I'd know' makes more sense. There's a 'but' that might be a 'that' but I think it's a 'but'

So go ahead correct these, but please please please for the sake of my sanity, don't 10 people reply saying how 'spot on' and awesome obviously incorrect lyrics that don't even make sense are.  Things I think might not be right in ().

First time post here, because I think it's finally here...

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now

(inaudible) heal the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Oh had I known
Or I'd been shown
Back when how long it'd take me

To break the (inaudble)
That brought me home
(And all but (that?) would erase me)

I never would
Know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me

Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew
Was that with you
I'd want someone to save me

It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and maybe

All that I wanted was...

Now I know you better,
You know I know...




Dude u gonna hate on this dudes transcription and u post this??? ::)


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: D on February 24, 2006, 04:40:59 PM
anyone tried to interpret this?

No one ever told me when I was alone just thought Id know better


what does this mean?

anyone got any interpretations?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: younggunner on February 24, 2006, 05:06:44 PM
I think when he says "no1 ever told me when I was alone, they just thought id know better"

, I think hes talking about his childhood and how even though people knew things were happening that shouldnt have happened, happened,,

and that line sinks in for me too..it hits on a lot of levels in my life which is why I can really relate to this song{not an abused situation like maybe Axl but just the subtle lessons life has to offer}


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: echrisl on February 24, 2006, 05:18:56 PM
I think he's writing about someone he's had a former romantic relationship with.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: 1badapple on February 24, 2006, 05:25:24 PM
Anyone else hear it like this?

A broken heart TO HIDE the spark
For my determination

Thanks to whoever posted the link earlier tonight! :peace:

i heard it as : A broken heart to hide the spark FROM my determination. i could be wrong though. i'll have to give a closer listen.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: younggunner on February 24, 2006, 05:27:42 PM
a broken heart provides the spark for my determination....makes the most sense


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: 1badapple on February 24, 2006, 06:19:33 PM
should be -A broken heart IGNITES the spark for my determination. that would make the most sense, but i didn't write the song so, oh well.............


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: estranged.1098 on February 24, 2006, 06:29:12 PM
Quote
And all that won?t erase me

Maybe it's "unleash me"?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: 1badapple on February 24, 2006, 06:31:57 PM
gee, won't it be nice when the cd comes out. hopefully the damn lyrics will be included.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: younggunner on February 27, 2006, 11:36:20 AM
Quote
If I were you, I bet it's true, a point of invitation
Upon this love, I gave you up, with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end, you'll find your inspiration
So choose your steps, I won't regret, this time with admiration

I think he says
avoid the ..invitation

...aggravation


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: bombom on February 28, 2006, 07:45:48 PM
Hey all,

First post, have made very minor alterations to the lyrics, there is one or 2 parts that are sound so similar to other words that rather than contradict whats already been done, i've left alone, but in my ears, this is the lyrics set

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


The hardest part this troubled heart has never yet been through now
We've healed the scars that got their start inside someone like you now

Well had I known or I'd been shown back when I longed you'd take me
To break the charge that brought me home and all but would erase me

I never would know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough, but just my luck
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better,
Now I know you better

So bittersweet, this tragedy won't ask for absolution
This melody inside of me still searches for solution
A twist of fate, a change of heart
Kills my infatuation,
A broken heart, provides the spark for my determination,

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
Ooh, no one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Now you know me better

(Solo)


I never wanted you to be so full of anger,
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted was
Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was

(Solo)

And knowing you, I bet it's true
A point of invitation
Upon this love that gave you up, with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You?ll find your inspiration,
To choose your steps, I won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

Roll on the CD CD lol

BomBom


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: elliscottcity on February 28, 2006, 08:00:28 PM
And knowing you, I bet it's true, A point of invitation
Upon this love that gave you up, with your adoration


I can't figure out how any one hear's "And knowing you" to me it sounds just like, and makes more sense as

If I were you I'd manage to avoid the invitation
A promised love that can't keep up with your adoration


but i guess we won't know unless something official ever gets printed


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: bombom on March 02, 2006, 11:13:16 AM
after reading that and relistening, i agree, it is "if i were you, Id manage to avoid the invitiation"

Well caught

BomBom


Title: "Better" lyric correction
Post by: Mal Brossard on March 12, 2006, 04:55:25 PM
I didn't know where to find the thread on the lyrics to Better, so I'm starting a new topic for this.  As far as I can hear, the 3rd verse starts as follows:

If I were you
I'd manage to
Avoid the invitation

Rather than:

Just knowing you
I bet it's true
A point of invitation

Just contributing my two cents here on what I can hear and seems to make sense.  Laters.


Title: Lyrics for Better?
Post by: ChinDem04 on March 26, 2006, 08:27:50 PM
Does anyone have lyrics for this song yet?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: jbenzz on March 26, 2006, 10:39:29 PM

Quote
If I were you, I bet it's true, a point of invitation
Upon this love, I gave you up, with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end, you'll find your inspiration
So choose your steps, I won't regret, this time with admiration

I'm pretty sure you have a couple things wrong....

If i were you, Id manage to avoid the invitiation
Upon this love that can't keep up with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end, you'll find your inspiration
So choose your steps I won't regret this kind of agrevation


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on March 26, 2006, 11:21:45 PM
Actually,  I think its


If I were you
I?d manage to
Avoid the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
And won't regret
This kind of aggravation






Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Count Fluffy on March 27, 2006, 12:04:30 AM
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has never yet been through now
We've healed the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when how long it?d take me
To break the charms
That brought me home
If all that won't erase me

I never would
Know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me
We played(replay?) the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better
Now I, know you better

So bittersweet
This tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody
Inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twisted fate(faith?)
A change of heart
Kills my infatuation
A broken heart
To provide the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better ohh
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Yeah you know me better

(Solo)

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

(Solo)

All that I wanted was

Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was

(Solo)

I know better (repeat)

If I were you
I?d manage to
abhor the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
And won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


My two cents... I used dave-gnfnr2k lyrics as a backbone and made changes to it in italics.  I especially think that "a twist of fate" is more likely to be "a twisted fate" and "avoid/abort the invitation" is actually "abhor the invitation."  The other changes I'm not so sure, but those fit in very well to the song.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on March 27, 2006, 12:36:36 AM
I think it's To break the charge.  Up near the beginning


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: AxlsMainMan on April 10, 2006, 08:53:28 PM
I think it's To break the charge.? Up near the beginning

It is...

I dont hear "charms" anywhere in the song..


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 10, 2006, 08:59:51 PM
its break the CHALLENGE


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Lord Kayoss on April 10, 2006, 09:07:28 PM
Who cares!?

The song kicks ass either way!

 : ok:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on April 10, 2006, 09:11:42 PM
We care, that's why there's a thread about it! :hihi:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: chinesedemocracy05 on April 10, 2006, 10:27:39 PM


Guns N' Roses - Better

(Intro)
No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
they just thought I'd know better, better.


The hardest part this troubled heart has never
yet been through now.
You've healed the scars that got their start
inside someone like you now.

 had I known what I've been shown back
when how long it'd take me.
To break the charge that brought me home
and all that won't erase me.

I never would know that I could no
matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy.

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me.
It'd be enough, but just my luck,
I fell in love and baby

all that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
You know I know better, now I know you better

So bittersweet this tragedy wont ask for absolution

This melody inside of me still searches for solution

A twist of fate the change of heart cures my infatuation

A broke heart provides the spark for my determination

(Intro)

All that  I wanted was

I know you know you know better
you know i know you know better
now you know me better

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
i never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted u to see things for yourself

All that i wanted was

Now i know you better
Now we all know better

All that I wanted was

(dont understand real high part)

If I were you i'd manage to avoid the invitation
A promised love that cant keep up with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end youll find your inspiration
to choose your steps and wont regret this kind of aggravation

(intro)



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 10, 2006, 10:38:47 PM
why do people keep saying CHARGE its CHALLENGE.
Charge makes no sense at all.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on April 10, 2006, 10:39:49 PM
Ummm, 'cuz its charge.  At least that's what I'm hearing.  are you using headphones?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 10, 2006, 10:42:18 PM
Ummm, 'cuz its charge.? At least that's what I'm hearing.? are you using headphones?

Yes and I even slowed it down, its clearly challenge.

How does charge even make sense??


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: leesixxrose on April 10, 2006, 10:43:12 PM
Does anyone have a longer more complete version of this song?? or just the leak that is cut?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 10, 2006, 10:44:06 PM
Does anyone have a longer more complete version of this song?? or just the leak that is cut?

The whole song it out


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on April 10, 2006, 10:44:38 PM
Yeah, you want it?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: leesixxrose on April 10, 2006, 10:45:24 PM
Pleeeeeease1!!!!!!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: russtcb on May 22, 2006, 05:02:50 PM
Alright....here's my take. I'm learning this for my band to cover so I need to make sure it's as correct as possible. I think everything is 100 right except the last verse after the last solo and before the outro chorus. Can someone look over this and gimme thoughts?

Guns N? Roses
Better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I?d know better, better
Ooooh no one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I?d know better, better

The hardest part this troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now
To heal the scars that got their start
Inside someone like you now
Had I know or I been shown back when
How long it?d take me
To break the charge that?s done me harm
And all but one erased me

I never would know that I could
No matter what you pay me
Replay the part you stole my heart
I should?ve know you?re crazy
And all I knew was that with you
I?d want someone to save me
It?d be enough but just my luck
I fell in love and baby

All that I wanted was
Now I know you better
You know I know better
Now I know you better

So bittersweet this tragedy won?t ask for absolution
This melody inside of me still searches for solution
A twist of fate the change of heart
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart to provide the spark
For my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I?d know better, better
Ooooh no one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I?d know better, better

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Now you know me better

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone who thinks
They know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted was
Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was

Ahh Ahh Ahh Ahh
Ahh Ahh Ahh Ahh

If I were you I?d bet it?s true put forth the invitation
Or find this love that can?t keep up with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps and won?t regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I?d know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I?d know better, better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on May 22, 2006, 05:08:58 PM
Those lyrics are not right but oh well. I still dont know how people hear charge, let alone understand how they think it makes sense. These are the lyrics


Guns N' Roses - Better


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better




The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has never yet been through now
We've healed the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when how long it?d take me
To break the challenge
That brought me home
And all that won't erase me

I never would
Know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me
Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better
Now I, know you better

So bittersweet
This tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody
Inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate
A change of heart
Kills my infatuation
A broken heart
Provides the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better ohh
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was

I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Yeah you know me better

(Solo)




I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

(Solo)

All that I wanted was

Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was



(Solo)

I know better (repeat) 

If I were you
I?d manage to
Avoid the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
And won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: russtcb on May 22, 2006, 05:11:33 PM
Those lyrics are not right but oh well. I still dont know how people hear charge, let alone understand how they think it makes sense.

The reason for my post was that I am thinking I had it wrong and was looking for suggestions that might help, not just confrimation that I was wrong on parts of it. Did you have any suggestions?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on May 22, 2006, 05:34:20 PM
Those lyrics are not right but oh well. I still dont know how people hear charge, let alone understand how they think it makes sense.

The reason for my post was that I am thinking I had it wrong and was looking for suggestions that might help, not just confrimation that I was wrong on parts of it. Did you have any suggestions?

yes just use the lyrics I gave  you they are pretty much 99% correct.
I even have it broken up how it should be sung so its easier not to miss lines in the song.



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: russtcb on May 22, 2006, 05:39:24 PM
Those lyrics are not right but oh well. I still dont know how people hear charge, let alone understand how they think it makes sense.

The reason for my post was that I am thinking I had it wrong and was looking for suggestions that might help, not just confrimation that I was wrong on parts of it. Did you have any suggestions?

yes just use the lyrics I gave  you they are pretty much 99% correct.
I even have it broken up how it should be sung so its easier not to miss lines in the song.



Thats weird. When I first replied I couldn't even see the lyrics you posted, just the first part. Anyways, they are there now and I appriciate the help.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: axe on May 22, 2006, 05:41:28 PM
...my infatuation
of a broken heart
to provide the spark...

abhor the invitation instead of avoiding it


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: russtcb on May 22, 2006, 05:45:04 PM
...my infatuation
of a broken heart
to provide the spark...

abhor the invitation instead of avoiding it

Wow I never thought about the abhor part instead of ingore or avoid.

I don't know why but I can't seem to hear challenge instead of charge. I totally understand that charge doesn't make sense and probably isn't right, but I just can't hear him saying something else there.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: axlsalinger on May 24, 2006, 10:52:27 PM
I wasn't as interested in this song's lyrics as the other ones when the leaks first came out, but I have to admit these are great lyrics, especially for a poppy song and potential single.

Just gave it a close listen and I think Dave's pretty much nailed it.

For the first time, I can now clearly hear "challenge" in that spot.

Quote
I never would
Know that I could

I do think he says "I never would, not that I could" here though.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: gabble on May 24, 2006, 10:54:35 PM
Quote
To break the charge that?s done me harm

To break the charms that brought me harm


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: SweetChildofGuns on May 31, 2006, 04:49:14 PM
Quote
To break the charge that?s done me harm

To break the charms that brought me harm

I completely agree with that, its what i hear through my headphones, after listening to it continously for last 30 mins.....

also, i personally think that its:

A twist of fate the change of heart
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart to provide the spark
For my determination

i hear a definite R in there, so i am pretty sure its 'Cures' not 'Kills'


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on May 31, 2006, 05:15:48 PM
How about this

Guns N' Roses - Better


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better




The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has never yet been through now
We've healed the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when how long it?d take me
To break the charms
That brought me harm
And all that won't erase me

I never would
Not that I could
No matter what you'd pay me
Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better
Now I, know you better

So bittersweet
This tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody
Inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate
A change of heart
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart
Provides the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better ohh
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was

I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Yeah you know me better

(Solo)




I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

(Solo)

All that I wanted was

Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was



(Solo)

(I know better, repeat)

If I were you
I?d manage to
Abhor the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: gabble on May 31, 2006, 05:41:28 PM
Quote
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

To choose your steps
That won't retread
This kind of aggravation


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: CheapJon on May 31, 2006, 06:15:00 PM
have not read all the posts so some one may already have wrote this anyway..

why don't you people who wants the lyrics of better just write guns n roses lyrics better on google. it will find the lyrics on all the songs even the new like better, catcher in the rye, IRS and TWAT


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: russtcb on May 31, 2006, 09:11:32 PM
Listening to him in Rio made me think it may be:

"To break the charms
That brought me harm"

Anyone else here that in the broadcast?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: estranged.1098 on May 31, 2006, 11:26:37 PM
have not read all the posts so some one may already have wrote this anyway..

why don't you people who wants the lyrics of better just write guns n roses lyrics better on google. it will find the lyrics on all the songs even the new like better, catcher in the rye, IRS and TWAT

You can find them on this site too.

What you can do in this thread is discuss the lyrics in more detail.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Crashdiet on June 06, 2006, 01:57:06 AM
I think charge makes sense to me. " break the charge that brought me harm"

speaking of the sense, if someone says something about you true or false, they are charging you with a behavior or an action. thus if someone says something false about you and you spend all your time trying to disprove them, you would be trying to 'break the charge that brought you harm'... makes sense to me.... although charms makes sense too... I guess we'll have to wait until the lyric sheet comes out to know for sure... until then sing whatever you want : ok:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 06, 2006, 02:19:29 AM
Listening to him in Rio made me think it may be:

"To break the charms
That brought me harm"

Anyone else here that in the broadcast?

I agree that is why i changed it in the lyrics


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on June 06, 2006, 11:01:56 AM
After listening to the Budapest show's version and the demo these are the corrrect lyrics:


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


The hardest part this troubled heart
Has ever yet been through now
We've healed the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now
Well had I known
Or I'd been shown
Back when I'd long you take me
To break the charms
That brought me harm
And all that won't erase me

I never would
Not that I could
No matter what you'd pay me
Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy
If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and baby
All that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better
Now I know you better

So bittersweet this tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate
The change of heart
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart
Provides the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better ohh
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was

I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Now you know me better

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself


All that I wanted was
Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was

(Ah, na, na, na) repeat

If I were you I?d manage to
Abhor the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps and won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: iloozion on June 06, 2006, 12:25:00 PM
" To heal the scars that got less dark inside someone like you now..."

"or had I known,or not been shown, back when how long it'd take me..."

...that's what i hear anyway...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: rock_n_rose on June 06, 2006, 01:35:34 PM
BETTER LYRICS

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better.. better...
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better.. better...

The hardest part this troubled heart has never yet been through now
To heal the scars that got their start inside someone like you now
But had I known or I'd been shown back when I'd long you'd take me
To break the charge that brought me home...
and all that won't erase me

I never wondered what I could
No matter what you paid me
replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough
That just my luck
I fell in love and baby...

All that I wanted was...

Now I know you better
You know I know better
Yeah, now I know you better!

So bittersweet, this tragedy wont ask for absolution
This melody inside of me, still searches for solution
A twist of fate, the change of heart kills my infatuation
A broken heart can't hide the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better...
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better...


All that I wanted, was...

I know, you know, you know better
You know, I know, you know better
Now you, know me better

I never wanted you to be so full of anger (anger)
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted, was...

Now I know you better
Now we all know better

All that I wanted was...

No, no, no, no
No, no, no, no
No, no, no, no
No, no, no, no

If I were you, I'd manage to abhore the invitation
Of promised love that can't keep up with your adoration
Just use your head, and in the end you'll find your inspiration
To choose your steps that won't regret this kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better.. better...
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better.. better...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: killingvector on June 06, 2006, 01:45:11 PM
Quote
If I were you I?d manage to
Abhor the invitation
Of promised love

I hear 'ignore' instead of 'abhor' but its close either way.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: rock_n_rose on June 06, 2006, 01:57:41 PM
Maybe we shud just all have a lil' more Patience n w8 4 Axl to release CD this later this year, then we can c what the final, actual lyrics are.

(Yes it will be this year!)


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: axe on June 06, 2006, 03:29:36 PM
I still insist it's "...my infatuation of a broken heart to provide the spark..." (I put it in one line so it's easier to follow the thought behind it.)

Live versions don't help like they did with "charms/harm" but those bolded little words are there in the studio demo. It's almost impossible not to hear them when using headphones.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Communist China on June 06, 2006, 03:32:44 PM
Maybe we shud just all have a lil' more Patience n w8 4 Axl to release CD this later this year, then we can c what the final, actual lyrics are.

(Yes it will be this year!)

Way to much internet slang dude. But good point, the lyrical secrets will be revealed for sure soon-ish. There, I know the word soon scares us, so I wrote soon-ish. Better?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: DunkinDave on June 06, 2006, 03:41:21 PM
No, no, no, no
No, no, no, no
No, no, no, no
No, no, no, no

I'm pretty sure Axl's saying:

You'll know better...
You'll know better...
You'll know better...
You'll know better...



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Mobenrad on June 06, 2006, 03:51:08 PM
I'm very, very certain this is the last bit of the lyrics:

If I were you
I'd manage to
Abort the invitation
Of promised love
That can't keep up
WIth your adoration


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: DunkinDave on June 06, 2006, 03:54:18 PM
I'm very, very certain this is the last bit of the lyrics:

If I were you
I'd manage to
Abort the invitation
Of promised love
That can't keep up
WIth your adoration

On the Budapest bootleg he clearly says "avoid"


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: codenameninja on June 06, 2006, 04:16:50 PM
I'm very, very certain this is the last bit of the lyrics:

If I were you
I'd manage to
Abort the invitation
Of promised love
That can't keep up
WIth your adoration

On the Budapest bootleg he clearly says "avoid"

maybe he sings different lyrics to iron out the bugs in preparation for the final mix for the album  :beer:

...it's 06-06-06 today and no album anoucement. Another rumour bites the dust  :hihi:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: rock_n_rose on June 07, 2006, 08:43:05 AM
Maybe we shud just all have a lil' more Patience n w8 4 Axl to release CD this later this year, then we can c what the final, actual lyrics are.

(Yes it will be this year!)

Way to much internet slang dude. But good point, the lyrical secrets will be revealed for sure soon-ish. There, I know the word soon scares us, so I wrote soon-ish. Better?

Sorry bout that! True, soon seems kinda scary as its been so long!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Locomotive on June 07, 2006, 02:34:15 PM
Thanks for the lyrics!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: GNRBABY on June 07, 2006, 04:52:19 PM

So bittersweet this tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate
The change of heart
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart
Provides the spark for my determination



A broken heart provides the spark for my determination is WRONG IMO

It is : A broken heart IGNITES the spark for my determination.

Like igniting a fuse......I makes more sense - a spark is ignited not provided.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: AxlsMainMan on June 07, 2006, 05:01:07 PM

A broken heart provides the spark for my determination is WRONG IMO

It is : A broken heart IGNITES the spark for my determination.

Like igniting a fuse......I makes more sense - a spark is ignited not provided.

Listen to the song with headphones...

Nowhere to me does Axl say "Ignites"....

In the line you're refering to, all I hear is "provides".... : ok:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on June 07, 2006, 05:19:44 PM
I think it's silly factoring in any live lyrics to these songs. Axl notoriously sings different lyrics to various songs. I'd go by the demo. That said, here's my interpretation of the lyrics:

"No one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better.
Ooh, no one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better.

The hardest part this troubled heart has never yet been through now,
we've healed the scars that got their start inside someone like you now,
well had I known or I'd been shown back when I longed you'd take me,
to break the charge that brought me harm and all that won't erase me,
I never would know that I could no matter what you'd pay me,
replay the part, you stole my heart, I should have known you're crazy,
if all I knew was that with you I'd want someone to save me,
it'd be enough but just my luck I fell in love and baby
All that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
you know I know better,
now I know you better!

So bittersweet this tragedy won't ask for absolution,
this melody inside of me still searches for a solution,
a twist of fate, a change of heart kills my infatuation,
a broken heart provides the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better,
ooh, no one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better.
All that I wanted was

I know you know you know better,
you know I know you know better,
now you know me better!

I never wanted you to be so full of anger,
I never wanted you to be somebody else,
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves,
I only wanted you to see things for yourself,

All that I wanted was

Now I know you better,
now we all know better!
All that I wanted was

Naah naah naah nah. (4x)

If I were you I'd manage to avoid an invitation,
a promised love that gave you up with your adoration,
just use your head and in the end you'll find your inspiration,
to choose your steps that won't regret this kind of aggrivation.

No one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better.
no one ever told me when I was alone,
they just thought I'd know better, better."

That's best I can tell. Besides, I know most of us want to substitute someone that makes sense for something that doesn't, but just put what you hear. Don't change what you actually do hear to what you WANT to hear...




Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: gabble on June 07, 2006, 07:40:55 PM
Quote
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

That won't retread

The use of 'regret' makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on June 07, 2006, 08:14:13 PM
Quote
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

That won't retread

The use of 'regret' makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Cool. I knew it didn't really make a ton of sense, but nothing else was really coming to mind.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 07, 2006, 09:01:33 PM
Quote
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

That won't retread

The use of 'regret' makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

regret makes MUCH more sense. How does regret not make sense?
Please explain

So is axl singing about fixing his tire


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on June 07, 2006, 09:05:04 PM
Quote
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

That won't retread

The use of 'regret' makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

regret makes MUCH more sense. How does regret not make sense?
Please explain

The more I listen to it, though, I'm going with my original assumption that it's "regret". Dave, I think they just meant that it doesn't make sense as "steps" can't "regret" anything, but we're getting way too ahead of ourselves here....


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 07, 2006, 09:08:50 PM
Quote
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

That won't retread

The use of 'regret' makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

regret makes MUCH more sense. How does regret not make sense?
Please explain

The more I listen to it, though, I'm going with my original assumption that it's "regret". Dave, I think they just meant that it doesn't make sense as "steps" can't "regret" anything, but we're getting way too ahead of ourselves here....

But you can. You can regret the steps you took to get to a certain place in your life. Again think of steps as a metaphor.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Ellroy on June 07, 2006, 10:02:33 PM
I think it is "regret" as well but it didn't really make sense to me at first and I understand why some don't think this is the right word. The first thing I think of when I hear "to choose your steps and/that won't regret this kind of aggravation" is that the aggravation will still occur, but the person suffering it will not mind it, will not regret it. Of course, this doesn't make any sense. Axl most likely means that you (the person he is addressing) won't suffer the aggravation at all, but using the word regret is just a little confusing at first. It's definately what he sings though.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: killingvector on June 07, 2006, 10:43:14 PM
Quote
Abhor the invitation

Abhor really doesn't make any sense. I could hear 'avoid' but not abhor.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 08, 2006, 01:33:26 AM
Quote
Abhor the invitation

Abhor really doesn't make any sense. I could hear 'avoid' but not abhor.

I used to think it was avoid but its abhor.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: killingvector on June 08, 2006, 03:32:05 AM
Quote
Abhor the invitation

Abhor really doesn't make any sense. I could hear 'avoid' but not abhor.

I used to think it was avoid but its abhor.


Frankly, when I compare the demo and live track I hear:

If I were you I'd manage to avoid the invitation
of promised love that can't keep up with your adoration.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: GNRslave on June 09, 2006, 04:31:23 PM
hey guys, my bro and i are having an argument over the second chorus, i say its "i know you know you know better, you know i know you know better" and he says its "i dont know no better, you dont know no better", could someone give me their opinion on what the line is? thanks!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: CheapJon on June 12, 2006, 12:47:04 PM
How many versions are there from this song?! (?) Mine lasts 2.05? and i have saved it as better demo extended.

After i ve watched gnr live, i have kinda stuck with this song...? :yes:

there were 3 leaks the first 1.20 then 2.06 and the last is about 4.56


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: newgnr on June 16, 2006, 12:55:13 AM
If I were you
I?d manage to
Abhor the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation


Holy fuckin shit....I am high right now, and I compeletly understand these lyrics.  AND they are SOOO good/deep.  The only way Axl (or God for that matter) would have been able to write this was if he was high....cause it's too good.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Mobenrad on June 21, 2006, 04:18:59 PM
You know, I've listened to this part 23 times in a row (yes I did count) and I'm pretty sure it's "to break the charge, that brought me harm", at least in the recording. Live, however, I can't figure out what he says, it's like, "Nos healed the scars that got their start inside someone ...dada

But live, I think he says "To break the charms that brought me harm"


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: EFISH on June 21, 2006, 04:22:12 PM
"charms"

 i dont no why people r saying its charms i always thought charge, and beleive me ive listened to it a million times.. ill go listen again.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: EFISH on June 21, 2006, 04:23:11 PM
i just listened to it very close to the speakers..


just like i thought...

it's "charge"


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: journey on June 21, 2006, 04:42:25 PM
Quote
Abhor the invitation

Abhor really doesn't make any sense. I could hear 'avoid' but not abhor.

That's what I always thought he was saying too -- 'avoid'.



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: ppbebe on June 21, 2006, 04:48:02 PM
avoid or abide

Nothing major but I hear

"To heal the scars that got their starts in such a one like you now"


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: newgnr on June 22, 2006, 01:37:15 AM
If I were you
I?d manage to
Abhor the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation


Holy fuckin shit....I am high right now, and I compeletly understand these lyrics.  AND they are SOOO good/deep.  The only way Axl (or God for that matter) would have been able to write this was if he was high....cause it's too good.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: metallex78 on June 22, 2006, 01:50:15 AM
avoid or abide

Nothing major but I hear

"To heal the scars that got their starts in such a one like you now"

I thought it was "inside someone like you now"


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: EFISH on June 22, 2006, 08:32:15 AM
If I were you
I?d manage to
Abhor the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation


Holy fuckin shit....I am high right now, and I compeletly understand these lyrics.? AND they are SOOO good/deep.? The only way Axl (or God for that matter) would have been able to write this was if he was high....cause it's too good.

didn't you already this same exact thing on one of the other pages?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: ppbebe on June 22, 2006, 01:30:56 PM
Quote
this same exact thing on one of the other pages?
And on the same page.

avoid or abide

Nothing major but I hear

"To heal the scars that got their starts in such a one like you now"

I thought it was "inside someone like you now"

so did I and I still do. I mean you're right.
when I was reading this thread while listening to the live one from a yourtube link in another thread yesterday, a second thought occurred to me, and I thought that would be easier to sing than "inside someone like you"
"abide" is total crap. hehe I don't know why I wrote that. :P


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: codenameninja on June 22, 2006, 02:14:15 PM
You know, I've listened to this part 23 times in a row (yes I did count) and I'm pretty sure it's "to break the charge, that brought me harm", at least in the recording. Live, however, I can't figure out what he says, it's like, "Nos healed the scars that got their start inside someone ...dada

But live, I think he says "To break the charms that brought me harm"


i thought it was:
charge that brought me home  :hihi:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: EFISH on June 22, 2006, 02:16:30 PM
i thought it was charm--home too...

but now i think its charm---harm (may not be harm though) but deffinelty is charm.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: codenameninja on June 22, 2006, 02:18:43 PM
whats Better about? feeling better?  ;D

Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation


feeling Better for using you're head, or am i being to shallow and missing the point?  :hihi:

whats the aggravation, the charms? and what are the charms? women  ;D



Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 22, 2006, 02:24:38 PM
whats Better about? feeling better?? ;D

Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation


feeling Better for using you're head, or am i being to shallow and missing the point?? :hihi:

whats the aggravation, the charms? and what are the charms? women? ;D



charms as in voo doo

and using your head means its common sense

its saying be smart and in the end you will find your inspiration


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: loretian on June 22, 2006, 06:20:39 PM
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart

It's "cures my infatuation... of a broken heart"

He definitely says "of a broken heart"


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: GonsaNRoses on June 22, 2006, 08:05:27 PM
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart

It's "cures my infatuation... of a broken heart"

He definitely says "of a broken heart"

what the fuck is infatuation???

thanks!


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: 2NaFish on June 22, 2006, 08:07:41 PM
intense obsession with something.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: loretian on June 22, 2006, 08:30:31 PM
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart

It's "cures my infatuation... of a broken heart"

He definitely says "of a broken heart"



what the fuck is infatuation???

thanks!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infatuation

It's like when you meet a person of the opposite sex, and you think you're in love, but two months later figure out that it wasn't love, it was lust and hormones and pleasant feeling.? ?: ok:

Infatuation is to love as flattery is to a real compliment.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: axlsalinger on June 22, 2006, 08:42:51 PM
It's definitely "avoid", and I am pretty sure it's "challenge". You guys convinced me of that, don't turn back now! Just use your heads and in the end you'll find that he does say 'chal-lenge' really fast-like. I am not 100% sure, more like 86%.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on June 24, 2006, 12:14:14 AM
I think the last verse is:

If I were you
I'd manage to
avoid the invitation
a promised love
that gave you up
with your adoration
just use your head
and in the end
you'll find your inspiration
to choose your steps
that won't regret
this kind of aggrivation.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: axlsalinger on June 24, 2006, 01:07:00 AM
Quote
a promised love
that gave you up
with your adoration

Still almost certain that it's "of promised love / that can't keep up / with your adoration".


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: codenameninja on June 24, 2006, 04:23:51 PM
oh well the album will be out soon, everyone post your completed version of what you think the lyrics are to Better and Jarmo will post a free t-shirt to the winner. So remember to include your t-shirt size at the end of your lyrics to Better  ;D


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: AxlsMainMan on June 26, 2006, 10:42:24 AM
Quote
a promised love
that gave you up
with your adoration

Still almost certain that it's "of promised love / that can't keep up / with your adoration".

Yes, that perfectly fits the song more than, "that gave you up".


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Spirit on July 05, 2006, 07:10:49 AM
Have anyone noticed that on the live version of "Better", Axl sings: "We've sealed the scars", instead of: "We've healed the scars"


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: codenameninja on July 05, 2006, 11:12:53 AM
Have anyone noticed that on the live version of "Better", Axl sings: "We've sealed the scars", instead of: "We've healed the scars"

There's probably been that many re writes of the song(s) that Axl forgets which version to go with live  :hihi:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on July 05, 2006, 12:24:43 PM
It's definitely "avoid", and I am pretty sure it's "challenge". You guys convinced me of that, don't turn back now! Just use your heads and in the end you'll find that he does say 'chal-lenge' really fast-like. I am not 100% sure, more like 86%.

Its not avoid its abhor. As for challenge, he says challenge on the demo but live he sings charms.
Its clear as day on this clip that its abhor.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=95B594C13B6BD49B


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on July 05, 2006, 12:37:29 PM
Better


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has never yet been through now
We've healed the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when how long it?d take me
To break the charms
That brought me harm
And all that won't erase me

I never would
Not that I could
No matter what you'd pay me
Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better
Now I, know you better



So bittersweet
This tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody
Inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate
A change of heart
Cures my infatuation
A broken heart
Provides the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better ohh
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was

I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Yeah you know me better

(Solo)

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

(Solo)

All that I wanted was

Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was

(Solo)



If I were you
I?d manage to
Abhor the invitation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: EFISH on August 26, 2006, 02:05:09 PM
"If I were you, I'd manage to abhore the SITUATION.

I promiss you that is what it is, atleast live.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Evolution on August 26, 2006, 02:07:22 PM
You guys are forgetting the La Na La Na section.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Christos AG on August 27, 2006, 02:28:03 PM
Better


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has never yet been through now
We've healed the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when how long it?d take me
To break the charms
That brought me harm
And all that won't erase me

I never would
Not that I could
No matter what you'd pay me
Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better
Now I, know you better



So bittersweet
This tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody
Inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate
A change of heart
Cures my infatuation
of a broken heart
to provide the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better ohh
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was

I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Yeah you know me better

(Solo)

I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone who brings it on themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

(Solo)

All that I wanted was

Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was

(Solo)



If I were you
I?d manage to
Abhor the situation
Of promised love
That can?t keep up
With your adoration
Just use your head
And in the end
You?ll find your inspiration
To choose your steps
That won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: EFISH on August 27, 2006, 02:30:09 PM
I think the studio demo says "invitation" but live, it is deffinetly situation.. so thatll probably be one change of lyrics we will hear in the final version


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Christos AG on August 27, 2006, 02:30:56 PM
I think the studio demo says "invitation" but live, it is deffinetly situation.. so thatll probably be one change of lyrics we will hear in the final version

I think you got that right...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: codenameninja on August 27, 2006, 03:43:06 PM
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Well i guess one thing is for sure, he didn't know better  :peace:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on August 27, 2006, 03:55:07 PM
I think the studio demo says "invitation" but live, it is deffinetly situation.. so thatll probably be one change of lyrics we will hear in the final version

I think you got that right...

he says "invitation" at the hammerstein show and on this SB version http://www.newgnr.com/dloads/audio/NewGNR.COM%20-%206.02.06%20RAR%20%5BSBD%5D%20-%2005%20-%20Better.mp3
When has he ever said situation?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Jim on August 27, 2006, 03:59:09 PM
When has he ever said situation?

I have a bootleg floating around somewhere, where Axl sings situation as clear as day.

Maybe it was at Download.........................


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on August 27, 2006, 04:01:07 PM
When has he ever said situation?

I have a bootleg floating around somewhere, where Axl sings situation as clear as day.

Maybe it was at Download.........................

So he sang that once and every other time it has beren invitation, its just like on WTTJ some time he sings in the jungle where I play and not WE or when he sings I wanna watch you scream instead of bleed.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: EFISH on August 27, 2006, 04:02:37 PM
Right here.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qspgba


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Jim on August 27, 2006, 04:04:59 PM
So he sang that once and every other time it has beren invitation, its just like on WTTJ some time he sings in the jungle where I play and not WE or when he sings I wanna watch you scream instead of bleed.

Poor examples. I and we, and scream and bleed are pretty much synonymous in as far as the 'point' of the sentance goes; situation and invitation are not.

But hey!, I don't care. You asked a question and I was just giving an answer is all.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on August 27, 2006, 04:06:20 PM
Oh I am not disagreeing with you, I just am about the people that are claiming its situation live all the time and it will be changed on the new version. Axl said situation once, every other show its been invitation. Rio, Budapest, hammerstein, etc etc are all inviation. And yes I just listened to the download version and he did say situation but it was just once


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Christos AG on August 27, 2006, 04:59:42 PM
He sings situation at download.


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: ppbebe on August 27, 2006, 05:12:46 PM
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


Well i guess one thing is for sure, he didn't know better  :peace:

And the other

he is not alone and he knows better.  :peace:


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on August 27, 2006, 07:17:26 PM
He sings situation at download.

Like I said he sung it ONCE, every other time he sings invitation. So do tell how you agree with someone saying axl will change the lyric on the final version when all but one time he sung invitation?


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: Christos AG on August 27, 2006, 07:26:30 PM
He sings situation at download.

Like I said he sung it ONCE, every other time he sings invitation. So do tell how you agree with someone saying axl will change the lyric on the final version when all but one time he sung invitation?

I don't know... He might...


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: greendog on August 27, 2006, 07:57:17 PM
So do tell how you agree with someone saying axl will change the lyric on the final version when all but one time he sung invitation?

dude, this is axl were talking about :D


Title: Re: 'Better' lyrics...
Post by: killingvector on August 28, 2006, 01:07:05 AM
I hear 'avoid the situation' at Donnington. It actually makes more sense.