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Title: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: JAC185 on March 26, 2006, 09:00:14 AM
I've had a few ideas about why there will be more than one album (well i think their will be, whether its a double disc or spread out)

1) Since 99/00 they have had a bunch of songs and have been focussing just on all of those, the delay being the time taken on those songs

2) The Industrial feel of 99/00 didn't suit some songs and the newer line-up, so theyve got a whole batch in one style and a whole batch in another, the delay being choosing and maintaining styles as to not have a really inconsistent album, but to keep both styles separate, an eclectic collection is fine but not a mish mash of random things. I remember hearing people saying Axl wasn't sure which direction to go in, so maybe rather than combining different styles, he has kept them separate.

3) Chinese Democracy was finished for the most part in 2000, with many songs not making the cut. Since new members have come in, they have kept some of the older songs, reworked others and written whole other new songs, and have been working on those; and so they have enough songs to fill two or three albums written across a large time period, some from the old-new gnr (  :hihi:) and more from the current band.

(I hope those made sense)

Which do you feel is most likely? Or do you have a different idea?


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Sparksry on March 26, 2006, 10:44:05 AM
I totally disagree..... i say they should put out the 3 cd in 3 years because when they do this they keep the interests of the people instead of giving them all the music at once ... if they did the 3 cd album the listeners would be like whats next...... I say the 3 year plan is the best for there interests even if us GNR fans want them all right now

 : ok:


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: jimb0 on March 26, 2006, 02:07:32 PM
I'm just glad that they recorded three albums.  This way we don't have to wait another decade and a half for the sequels to cd, or will we?


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: HungerForChaos on March 26, 2006, 02:58:03 PM
I think its a very good idea indeed to release 3 albums, bare in mind most of the general public has no idea gnr still exists and some even dont know who gnr are (the younger audience obviously :)) so to release 3 albums over 3 years would make sure its not a moment of success which fades within a month, it pretty much gurantees longevity! :)
It also guarantees less sells for any one album.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Megaguns on March 26, 2006, 03:48:25 PM
If the albums have singles on them, one per year would be too often, Wasnt there singles still coming off UYI 2 years after its release?  It would be like, Heres the fourth single from Chinese democracy volume 1, And heres the first single from CD Vol2. Catch my drift? Maybe it would be a good thing? i dont know....


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: fridayfan13 on March 26, 2006, 03:49:03 PM
well, 3 cd's over 3 years also make sanctuary and geffen happy. at least 3 full tours, 3 albums that you cant kepp on the shelves. thats a lot of money, and they both want/need it.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on March 26, 2006, 08:07:25 PM
Oh yes, by all means spread out the release over the years.  40+ songs would be too much to take in all at once.  And yes, Estranged became a single in '93


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Evolution on March 26, 2006, 08:18:01 PM
I love the idea. Puts my mind at ease completely about the next album taking ages also. Plus give us a comeback to non-fans who mention how long it's taking.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: BLS-Pride on March 26, 2006, 08:19:10 PM
I believe the 3 CD rumor when I have all three albums..


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: jbenzz on March 27, 2006, 08:41:54 AM
Assuming the 3 album thing is still the plan, they'll release the next album when the first album has been drained of singles.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 27, 2006, 08:56:06 AM
The 3 album idea is a great one...but who says that Axl won't want to tinker with any remaining albums at the last minute, therefore causing another delay?


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Mustapha on March 27, 2006, 09:08:13 AM
I would prefer a big package with everything in there. A massive 3 CD album. But I don't care about sales and most people here are more interested in that ::)
Anyway, I can figure that very few people would buy a 3cd album with new material, but 3 cd's in 3 years wouldn't be a smash thing either. Very probably, what would happen is that Axl wouldn't be happy with the sales of the first album and push definitely the release of the other two...


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: St_Jimmyuk on March 27, 2006, 09:24:49 AM
3 albums over 3 years will be a very good move, people will think its just another band trying to make a comeback if its just one album ,and think that this time it will be the proper end for axl, if he keps giving us stuff it shows that there is hope that this time hes here to stay, only problem is what happens after the 3 years do you think we will see more?


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: A Private Eye on March 27, 2006, 10:25:36 AM
In some respects I think it seems a very good idea, I would certainly feel much more confident of an album after CD than if Axl released CD then said 'we'll start work on material for a new album some time next year' or something like that. It's also encouraging to see there is a plan after CD and that there may well already be a planned track list for the follow up(s) to CD or at least the skeleton of the next album is known.

I do think 3 albums in 3 years might be a bit excessive though and if this was the case there might be a bit of a GNR overkill by the 3rd album (sounds ridiculous at the moment doesn't it  :hihi:). Personally I think they should judge the releases based on the success of the previous album and take it from there. Most bands seem to generally go for a new album release every 2-3 years and I think that would be a better idea here and perhaps aim to have the 3 albums released over more like a 6 year period. Much more digestable for the general public, but not enough time to be forgotten about again and also gives the guys a break between tours and promotion etc.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: oldgunsfan on March 28, 2006, 09:00:50 AM
so he doesn't have to be bothered with recording for a while and he can release all the material he recorded over the last 15 years


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: UseYourIllusion999 on March 28, 2006, 11:46:09 AM
Well we all know Axl and he does what he wants when he wants so if it's been 15 years without original material out there, who's to say that he'd ever put out the other 2 let alone Chinese Democracy (the first one).  He has walked off stage, not showed up, ranted about anything he wanted, as well as everything else because he just doesn't care what people think of him nor...he does what he wants and that is why I like him pretty much...but we still don't know anything  :smoking:


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Neemo on March 28, 2006, 11:50:33 AM
I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and suggest that it's because they have 3 albums left on their contract with Geffen Records :hihi: :peace:


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: ARC on March 28, 2006, 11:55:51 AM
Reason for multiple albums...?

15 years.  : ok:


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Mrs. Brownstone on March 28, 2006, 04:57:17 PM
Everytime a few tracks were laid down another member was replaced so more and more tracks accumulated. And, 13 yrs since last studio album.   : ok: 


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Mandy. on March 28, 2006, 05:06:27 PM
I think that more than 1 album would be a great surprise... And maybe that's what Axl wants, since we've been patiently waiting for the release? :D
Or maybe, none of this makes sense.

Then again, we don't know. He could surprise us all, or it's just gonna be what we are expecting.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: DCGNR2006 on March 28, 2006, 05:19:04 PM
I think it will in fact be 3 CD's at one time. Reason being, Axl Rose knows right now, this very day, that there will be enough people going ( just from this forum alone!) to the store on the first day to buy this album. He also knows that not one of us will go there and NOT buy it because it is 3 CD's and probably on the expensive side. By issuing a 3-CD package,they really could charge 45-50 bucks for it. Take that figure by the amount of people that will be buying it on day one and you are cashing in!

Do it my brother....we're gonna pay


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Silkworms on March 29, 2006, 02:40:03 AM
Which other bands/groups have ever released 3 CDs of new material at once?  Any?


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: jimb0 on March 29, 2006, 02:44:09 AM
Which other bands/groups have ever released 3 CDs of new material at once?  Any?

Aren't the Chilli Peppers doing that soon?  34 sonts?


The number one reason Axl did three albums was so he didn't have to ever record again, cuz its become such a pain in his ass.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: jimmythegent on March 29, 2006, 05:05:55 AM
didnt Axl say that the first release is going to be more conventional and then he'll release the more 'out there' stuff?

I really hope that CD is comprised of the absolutle, 100% , bonafide best songs of the ones he's been working on. CD is make or break, he better come out swinging because he may not get another chance


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: RichardNixon on March 29, 2006, 05:09:20 AM
Say Axl has three albums in the can. You think he will just release one, year after year, without "touching it up."?


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: shaun on March 29, 2006, 10:50:41 AM
Reason For Multiple Albums?


that's an easy one to anwser: here goes - of the 30+ tracks only 33% are any good. CD will feature the best of the bunch and the remaining 66% will be released later on, just to extract some ca$h out of the average gunner.

and in case you were wondering about the remaining 1% the record company will hold onto these 1% so they can really ca$h in and re release GnR material in a new improved form (re mastered etc) +1 extra *new* track (the blurb on the disc cover will read, newly discovered GnR track, a MUST! for all fans)



Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Mrs. Brownstone on April 12, 2006, 05:20:25 PM
didnt Axl say that the first release is going to be more conventional and then he'll release the more 'out there' stuff?

I really hope that CD is comprised of the absolutle, 100% , bonafide best songs of the ones he's been working on. CD is make or break, he better come out swinging because he may not get another chance

I'm with you JTG.  It's do or die, if he released a cd with stuff like Silkworms and Riyadh on it the media and most of the fans would more than likely be alienated for good.  With the amount of money/time spent on this he's backed himself into a corner, the only way out is to knock it out of the park.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: bazgnr on April 12, 2006, 05:30:35 PM
Personally, I would find (3) albums at once overwhelming.  I'm as anxious as anyone to hear new music, but I also want to appreciate and digest everything that's released.  Assuming there's any truth to the multiple album rumor to begin with (did Axl say anything to this effect, or just that they've recorded enough material to fill more than one CD, etc. - damn the word games!), one a year would be great.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Mandy. on April 12, 2006, 05:34:18 PM
as long as they don't release 1 every decade.....


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: GeorgeSteele on April 12, 2006, 05:37:31 PM
as long as they don't release 1 every decade.....

My fear exactly.  Which is why I would prefer a 30+ song double, triple album, whatever, because I'm afraid that no matter what is released it will be a long time before we see another album, if ever.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Origen on April 12, 2006, 05:48:23 PM
as long as they don't release 1 every decade.....

I can't see Axl doing that, releasing the final part when he's 64!? :hihi:


He'll have to re-do the lyrics to WTTJ if he's still singing at that age:

"Welcome To The Retirement home.
We've got chess and other games.
If your under 60 then you won't get in here for free.
In the retirement home welcome to the retirement home
I need my bed p-p-p-p-p pan"


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Mandy. on April 12, 2006, 05:56:03 PM
as long as they don't release 1 every decade.....

I can't see Axl doing that, releasing the final part when he's 64!? :hihi:


He'll have to re-do the lyrics to WTTJ if he's still singing at that age:

"Welcome To The Retirement home.
We've got chess and other games.
If your under 60 then you won't get in here for free.
In the retirement home welcome to the retirement home
I need my bed p-p-p-p-p pan"


LMAO  :rofl:

Fuckin brilliant!!!!!  :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Big Gun on April 13, 2006, 08:46:22 AM
"We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done," he says. Of those, thirteen are slated for the final album. Among Rose's favorites are "Better," "There Was a Time" and "The Blues."

WHATS ALL THIS MULTIPLE ALBUMS CRAP GOIN ON...


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Origen on April 13, 2006, 08:50:28 AM
"We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done," he says. Of those, thirteen are slated for the final album. Among Rose's favorites are "Better," "There Was a Time" and "The Blues."

WHATS ALL THIS MULTIPLE ALBUMS CRAP GOIN ON...

We're just playin' the songs we're not considering putting out as singles or anything. So you'll get 18 songs and about 10 extra tracks. And when that... when the record company feels that has run [it's] source, then you'll get it all over again. And by that time, I should be done with the 3rd album! - Axl

There has also been rumours for years about CD being a multipart album.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: Big Gun on April 13, 2006, 09:19:24 AM
go figure now...we'll just have to wait n see.


Title: Re: Reason For Multiple Albums?
Post by: AxlsMainMan on April 15, 2006, 07:46:15 AM
Which other bands/groups have ever released 3 CDs of new material at once?  Any?

None...

And trust me, neither will Axl...

Anyone whose never even taken a High School buisness can tell you that that's a horrible release idea...

To maximize sales, you'd be an idiotto release all 3 albums at once...

Trust me, as close as Merk an Axl are, if Axl told Merk that "that was the plan", Merk would laugh him out of the office...

Say Axl has three albums in the can. You think he will just release one, year after year, without "touching it up."?

Fuck no...

Even if Axl wraps up recording on all 3 albums this year, and he's happy as fuck with them...down the road when its time for the followups, he will most definately do some "touch ups" and all that Axl Rose jazz...

The guy is a perfectionist, that's not going to change now...

Plus, the relevancy of music genres is a fading thing in today's music landscaps, so touch wood that he doesnt have to down the road for an eternity, but Uncle Axl may have to update some of the songs or modernize their influences to sell it...

He has an advantage now...Better sounds like nothing on the radio now...it's a future #1...i just hope by the time we hear the final version, it doesnt sound outdated as say some of the drumfills on Appetite.. :-[