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Title: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Pviljoen on March 26, 2006, 03:20:24 AM
I'm taking a course in the history of pop music. I'm a big fan of GNR, and I want to make sure I'm not missing something. I'm gonna be showing clips of DVDs and live performances, and probably play Madagascar at the end to show the progression (even though that might not exactly be GNR).

What are some important details that I shouldn't miss? Of course I'll go over album sales and tour figures. Also some things I'm going to include will be their tours with the Stones, Aerosmith and Iron Maiden, to show how they became huge. But more importantly I want to talk about the social impact. Does anyone have anything interesting to say about One In a Million?

I'm looking for any tips or insights. Thanks.


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Steve McKagan on March 26, 2006, 04:19:31 AM
Maybe you could mention that Axl had an explanation of One In A Million on the front cover of Lies. Many people and critics seems to miss it.


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: lul on March 26, 2006, 05:10:36 AM
axl rose = original gangster


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Pviljoen on March 26, 2006, 05:32:21 PM
Maybe you could mention that Axl had an explanation of One In A Million on the front cover of Lies. Many people and critics seems to miss it.

My copy of Lies is at home, and I transfered all my CDs to MP3... i will take another look on the net.


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on March 26, 2006, 05:39:06 PM
Talk about how they were a transisition band between hair metal and grunge.

At the time hair metal was a laughable music style and going out of style somewhat fast, then Guns came along with a sound that was reminesent of Zep, Aerosmith and the Stones.  It gave new life to music and woke music fans up again. 


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Origen on March 26, 2006, 05:43:39 PM
People will probably get pissed when I say this but the truth hurts.

Talk about Axls transition from 1993 to 2002, how he looks more like a Rapstar now then a Rockstar.


And this is also great for behind the scenes facts: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/history/index.html  : ok:


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Irish rose on March 26, 2006, 05:51:05 PM
Say how they are still very relevant today and are possibly the Led Zeppelin of this generation

Their music is played in clubs all the time


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Sparksry on March 26, 2006, 05:55:42 PM
Say how that his band is the only band that still survived after everyone left but the singer  : ok:


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Origen on March 26, 2006, 05:56:52 PM
Say how they are still very relevant today and are possibly the Led Zeppelin of this generation

They were the Led Zepplin of the late 80s/early 90s generation


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Irish rose on March 26, 2006, 06:00:02 PM
Say how they are still very relevant today and are possibly the Led Zeppelin of this generation

They were the Led Zepplin of the late 80s/early 90s generation

What i mean there is that a new generation are growing up gettin into them


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: gunner333 on March 26, 2006, 06:02:02 PM
i think itz a good thing that axl isnt dressed up as he was back in the 80's. you all have to understand one thing,this isnt the eighties anymore.it would look pretty weird if axl got his hair all crazy and wears make up again. those days are dead.
he should stick with with the image he has now.but i do have to complain about one thing. i hate the brades!!!!


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Origen on March 26, 2006, 06:04:39 PM
i think itz a good thing that axl isnt dressed up as he was back in the 80's. you all have to understand one thing,this isnt the eighties anymore.it would look pretty weird if axl got his hair all crazy and wears make up again. those days are dead.
he should stick with with the image he has now.but i do have to complain about one thing. i hate the brades!!!!

Who would want a 44 year old man dressed the way he did in the 80s ? No one. Nut the baggy jerseys are just as embarrassing.

Look at the way he was in 2001 he looked great, that's the look he should of kept.


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Scree on March 27, 2006, 03:27:49 AM
If yer gonna mention visual style, you gotta mention Axl wearing leather chaps and a thong.... at the same time. This was during the early days (was a total WTF IS HE WEARING?? moment when I saw it on one of the '86 vid boots). He stopped that after Johnny Thunders told him he looked gay (or so rumour has it.)

Aside from that, the fact that they brought rock from a stale, safe place that it had languished in for years. Pulled it out of the gutter and drove it straight to the sewers as far as pure rawness went.

Also, wasn't Paul Stanley of KISS the first producer? They kicked him out after he told them they needed to make changes to the tunes.


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: ClintroN on March 27, 2006, 03:55:52 AM
axl rose = original gangster

nice nice!! :beer: :beer:


Title: Re: GNR presentation - what's important?
Post by: Continental Drift on March 27, 2006, 04:10:34 AM
I think the main point I would make about GN'R in a "social-historical" context is that they were the first band to give a big "Fuck You" to the whole "We Are The World"/harmless "fun" pop music scene of the 1980's... GN'R was the reality of poor, rural, white America mixing with the neglected urban centers that Reaganomics had left behind... plus, it's always been my theory that as soon as AFD era Guns hit... Nirvana and the whole grunge scene was a foregone conclusion... Americans started demanding meaning out of rock music... not just cheesey sing alongs... Poison, Motley Crue, Warrant, etc. couldn't hang in that environment...