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Title: music crime at its worst
Post by: SWINGTRADER on March 26, 2006, 02:23:02 AM
anybody seen this remix  of "Don't cry" before  ???????????   


                                          http://youtube.com/watch?v=LJxt_ZNkUmw&search=gnr



Fuckin hip hop




Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: gnr_12 on March 26, 2006, 02:39:33 AM
GNR songs cannot be re made lol....


EVER... axl's voice is one and only. . the only person close EVER came before him.. Robert Plant..


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Appetite4democracy on March 26, 2006, 04:23:47 AM
OH GOD WHY!!!! >:(


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: godiva on March 26, 2006, 05:15:17 AM
My ears are bleeding. I wonder what kind of drugs doctors prescribe for injuries like that. I think I need to self-medicate with Led Zep and a lot of Stones now.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: jaknudsen on March 26, 2006, 05:18:23 AM
That was utterly awful.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on March 26, 2006, 05:50:48 AM
anybody know the name of the group


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: anythinggoes on March 26, 2006, 05:53:22 AM
well it could of been a lot worse i personally dont like it but its a lot better then some of the shit that gets produced remixed and shit at least shes kept to the same (ok ill stop there i got to the rap bit now why do that) without that it wouldnt be too bad :confused: :nervous:


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: jaknudsen on March 26, 2006, 05:55:23 AM
http://www.najuah.com/

"Najuah Biography

Every now and then a group comes along that embodies everything you love about music."

:hihi:


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on March 26, 2006, 06:33:39 AM
i wonder if they had permission to do that


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Mandy. on March 26, 2006, 07:01:39 AM
Isn't that forbidden by law?


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Axls Locomotive on March 26, 2006, 07:54:03 AM
a million dollars worth of mediocrity

where do all these bands come from?


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Axlative on March 26, 2006, 09:01:14 AM
Isn't that forbidden by law?

That's a capital crime if there ever was one!  ;D

Seriously, I usually like these attempts or at least can stand them, but this one made my head hurt. Made it hurt bad.





Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Sakib on March 26, 2006, 11:17:08 AM
my head hurts. too much noise. I'm allergic to bull


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: AXL 20 on March 26, 2006, 11:30:10 AM
Whoever made taht deserves to be shot at then 3 times in the leg while running and then raped by a fat man then have their arms cut off and then shot 13 times to the heart and have their head cut off and stuffed in a bag and buried in their mother's backyard.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: anythinggoes on March 26, 2006, 11:42:02 AM
@ axl 20 what a stupid comment, ok we get it you didnt like it but why all the childish bullshit with it? I dont like it but at least i was a bit more diplomatic over it 


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: WAR41 on March 26, 2006, 12:02:52 PM
ehh, at least that one chick who attempts to 'rap' in the middle is pretty cute.  But yeah, the song sounds pretty bad haha.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 26, 2006, 12:15:54 PM
die bitch die.  :rofl:


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Origen on March 26, 2006, 12:44:08 PM
Since this official and they would of had to have rights to release this, does this mean that Axl approved them to do it  :confused:


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: da_pope on March 26, 2006, 12:48:29 PM
Hmmm... Whats more of a crime?
Making a not that bad cover of a good song or tearin' apart on of the best bands of all-time and stealing the name for a completly diffrent band?
 :peace:


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Mandy. on March 26, 2006, 01:03:22 PM
Since this official and they would of had to have rights to release this, does this mean that Axl approved them to do it? :confused:

well, yeah.............

let's not forget that Axl is now a rapper and big fan of hip hop, yo brap brap


 :rofl:


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: nonlinear on March 26, 2006, 01:13:46 PM
you guys are fucking idiots.

First, this is not hip hop, it's r&b pop music.  although I am not a fan of this type of music and would certainly never choose to listen to it, I don't think the remake is that bad like you all make it out to be.  It's actually kinda cool that these people are making GNR music accessible to a demographic would would never listen to gnr in the first place.

Second, I dont' know why half of the people on this board are so limited in their musical taste, and think that thei8r way is the only way.  Calling this a 'music crime' is the stupidest fucking comment i've ever heard.  i don't really think any musi9cian would agree with you, whether they like this style of music or not.  people used to say that dylan going electric in '65, or the beatles releasing sgt. peppers, were 'music crimes.'  i wonder what those people are doing now.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on March 26, 2006, 01:57:35 PM
Nambis, you made very good points. I thought it wasn't that bad, and provided a different take on the music we love. The only thing that bothered me was that parts of the melody and instrumental work could not be recreated with the beat they used.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: jimb0 on March 26, 2006, 02:10:05 PM
I bet Axl loved this version, he'd probably prefer singing this over the origional verision live. 


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: LittleFly on March 26, 2006, 02:13:44 PM
Wow, that wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was gonna be.  It's a different perspective on the song. I also agree with jimb0, on the fact that Axl may have actually liked it.  We all know that Axl likes different kinds of music, other then straight Rock N' Roll. 

It was actually kind of a sweet video, I think.  Not the kind of music I would normally listen to, however

;D


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Pig Vomit on March 26, 2006, 03:25:09 PM
Some one needs to give those girls a cleveland steamer for this crime against humanity.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Pig Vomit on March 26, 2006, 03:28:29 PM
When was this made anyway.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: manny on March 26, 2006, 03:34:23 PM
Some of the comments on that page make me embarassed to be a GNR fan. Wishing Hitler was alive juts becuase they did a gnr cover? :no: I don't speak for axl and comp, but I'm sure even they're emabarassed about having fans like this.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: WeHeldTogether on March 26, 2006, 03:35:09 PM
Wow...  >:(


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: jimb0 on March 26, 2006, 03:37:28 PM
Wow, that wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was gonna be.  It's a different perspective on the song. I also agree with jimb0, on the fact that Axl may have actually liked it.  We all know that Axl likes different kinds of music, other then straight Rock N' Roll. 

It was actually kind of a sweet video, I think.  Not the kind of music I would normally listen to, however

;D

Not my cup of tea either, but interesting. Did they sample that quartet tribute?  My external HD got fuct  >:( and I no longer have it, so i was wondering if this intro was indeed from that. 

Axl likes the hip hop beats, so he might like this.  I can't assume what his taste would be though. 

At least this artist has good taste in music and is spreading the gnr music to people who might have not origionally liked them.  I'd like to see 'em get a steamer any way. j/k


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: jimb0 on March 26, 2006, 03:43:51 PM
I donno why but I kinda dig this, I never really dig this kinda music but....  I think Don't Cry is just a f'n awsome song no matter how it is done.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: jimb0 on March 26, 2006, 03:50:26 PM
Whoever is bringing racism into this, did they realize Slash is half black?


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: kunzerd on March 26, 2006, 04:24:19 PM
i think the music is ok, i like the twangy effects on the guitar during the chorus (assuming they used actual instruments). im not to fond of the vocals though. if axl was singing to this and they only brought the girls in as backing vocals in the chorus then i think i would appreciate this more. my vote is interesting idea, poorly executed.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: el roberto on March 26, 2006, 04:27:30 PM
Yeah, I can't see why all the negative comments. It was interesting. Of course we all have different taste, but I don't see why anyone should feel offended. Some of you should be more positive about such little things. It's not like you lost 100 grand or somethin ?:peace:


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: St_Jimmyuk on March 26, 2006, 06:40:02 PM
im not saying its a crime, and i don't like r and b music, ive tried to listen and i just don't like it, but i have to say that song is very bad, say that im biased if you must but it wasn't good, they eevn used axl in the background of the first harmonics section.  The only thing worth crediting in the song is the fact that they managed to fit the rap in quite well but thats it.  The video was also random crap


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: WhosGilby? on March 26, 2006, 07:03:34 PM
I though it was going to be worse but whats the matter with them they can't right there own lyrics?


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: speak_truth on March 26, 2006, 10:27:30 PM
At the middle of the video, the lead singer does a half ass Axl Snake Dance ,lol


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: RichardNixon on March 27, 2006, 01:36:35 AM
I thought the first half of the song was decent--not great, but a respectable cover. But when it came time for Slash's killer solo, and they started in with the rap, it lost me.

Still, as previously stated by another poster, if this makes GN'R's music more assessable to others, not real harm.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Wooody on March 27, 2006, 01:47:31 AM
Wow, that wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was gonna be.? It's a different perspective on the song. I also agree with jimb0, on the fact that Axl may have actually liked it.? We all know that Axl likes different kinds of music, other then straight Rock N' Roll.?

It was actually kind of a sweet video, I think.? Not the kind of music I would normally listen to, however

;D

Not my cup of tea either, but interesting. Did they sample that quartet tribute?? My external HD got fuct? >:( and I no longer have it, so i was wondering if this intro was indeed from that.?

Axl likes the hip hop beats, so he might like this.? I can't assume what his taste would be though.?

At least this artist has good taste in music and is spreading the gnr music to people who might have not origionally liked them.? I'd like to see 'em get a steamer any way. j/k

I think so


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Mike McKagan on March 27, 2006, 02:10:41 AM
The rap is silly and the black girl needs to stop singing through her nose.  Not a music crime, just bad music.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Scree on March 27, 2006, 03:16:44 AM
This cover sucked, even the country version of PC was better (and it was pretty bad). Whoever authorised the cover to be released needs a swift kick in the nuts.

Oh and to all those going off on us who simply don't like it, piss off and take a look at your own music tastes before criticising others (and I LIKE R&B generally.)


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: ClintroN on March 27, 2006, 04:02:26 AM
EVERY rap artist can GET FUCKED, well, just the cunts who constantly use samples n' shit....GET FUCKED

i heard a fucked up rap song TODAY from some bitch who uses the intro to an ELO song, i think it was Evil Women and i was fuckin' shocked!!

hey, i was readin' the song credits to Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Buisness  album and OH MY FUCKIN' GOD!!!, the amount of samplin' these cockheads use is unbelievable!! :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: coolman78SLASH on March 27, 2006, 04:10:21 AM
I liked it, I think it's cool that musicians/singers who are not the typical GnR fans still find the song interesting enough to go and make a cover and video of it. That's kind of a cool compliment to GnR...  We are all GnR fans here, so it's almost impossible for any artist to make a GnR cover that we will like more than the original, but I liked that they did this with a twist, and not only trying to make a copy..  And people, nobody deserves to die, or get fucked for singing a GnR song, no matter if they do it good or bad... Man, sometimes I feel like I'm sorounded by 13 years old fanatics in here..   : ok:


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: jaknudsen on March 27, 2006, 04:12:23 AM
Quote from: ClintroN Prt.6 - At The Gates Of MIDIAN
EVERY rap artist can GET FUCKED, well, just the cunts who constantly use samples n' shit....GET FUCKED

i heard a fucked up rap song TODAY from some bitch who uses the intro to an ELO song, i think it was Evil Women and i was fuckin' shocked!!

hey, i was readin' the song credits to Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Buisness ?album and OH MY FUCKIN' GOD!!!, the amount of samplin' these cockheads use is unbelievable!!

Have you ever listened to DJ Shadow or The Avalanches? Their music consists ONLY of samples, and it's damn good. However, I see your point in lazy artist trying to get commercial success by using a sample from a well-known song.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: nonlinear on March 27, 2006, 12:31:16 PM
EVERY rap artist can GET FUCKED, well, just the cunts who constantly use samples n' shit....GET FUCKED

i heard a fucked up rap song TODAY from some bitch who uses the intro to an ELO song, i think it was Evil Women and i was fuckin' shocked!!

hey, i was readin' the song credits to Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Buisness  album and OH MY FUCKIN' GOD!!!, the amount of samplin' these cockheads use is unbelievable!! :o :o :o :o :o

Dude you obviously know very little about music if you can make a statement like this.  Find the movie "scratch" and watch that and learn about the genre before you go making ignorant comments like this.  And I don't care how how many posts you have either.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Elle on March 27, 2006, 12:43:23 PM
fuck I wish I hadn't clicked that link - my poor ears


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: ClintroN on March 27, 2006, 03:10:02 PM
EVERY rap artist can GET FUCKED, well, just the cunts who constantly use samples n' shit....GET FUCKED

i heard a fucked up rap song TODAY from some bitch who uses the intro to an ELO song, i think it was Evil Women and i was fuckin' shocked!!

hey, i was readin' the song credits to Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Buisness  album and OH MY FUCKIN' GOD!!!, the amount of samplin' these cockheads use is unbelievable!! :o :o :o :o :o

Dude you obviously know very little about music if you can make a statement like this.  Find the movie "scratch" and watch that and learn about the genre before you go making ignorant comments like this.  And I don't care how how many posts you have either.

good for you, (whats with the post comment) rap artist arnt artist, and i dont give a shit about your movie, if they can only use old school samples n' not come up with anythin' from themselves then thats not talent, thats a rip off!!

honestly, its cool for somethin' here n' there, but thats all they seem to do these days!!!   

 :P :P


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Elrothiel on March 27, 2006, 03:26:11 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAARGHHH!!

*faints*

*wakes up*

*gags and runs to go throw up*

Must.... resist.... urge... to.... kill....... *eye twitches madly*


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: nonlinear on March 27, 2006, 03:49:23 PM
EVERY rap artist can GET FUCKED, well, just the cunts who constantly use samples n' shit....GET FUCKED

i heard a fucked up rap song TODAY from some bitch who uses the intro to an ELO song, i think it was Evil Women and i was fuckin' shocked!!

hey, i was readin' the song credits to Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Buisness  album and OH MY FUCKIN' GOD!!!, the amount of samplin' these cockheads use is unbelievable!! :o :o :o :o :o

Dude you obviously know very little about music if you can make a statement like this.  Find the movie "scratch" and watch that and learn about the genre before you go making ignorant comments like this.  And I don't care how how many posts you have either.

good for you, (whats with the post comment) rap artist arnt artist, and i dont give a shit about your movie, if they can only use old school samples n' not come up with anythin' from themselves then thats not talent, thats a rip off!!

honestly, its cool for somethin' here n' there, but thats all they seem to do these days!!!   

 :P :P

you don't know how sampling works man.   i could say the exact same fucking thing about someone using a G chord  :-\


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Buddha_Master on March 27, 2006, 04:27:42 PM
I actually think the biggest music crime is Axl keeping the music he and GNR has made from the world.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Buddha_Master on March 27, 2006, 04:32:14 PM
Just watched it...you know...I actually don't think its that bad. Certaintly miles better then when Sheryl Crow remade SCOM. Some of these bitches are also really fine. I would bang most of them very very hard.



Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: ClintroN on March 28, 2006, 12:44:56 AM
EVERY rap artist can GET FUCKED, well, just the cunts who constantly use samples n' shit....GET FUCKED

i heard a fucked up rap song TODAY from some bitch who uses the intro to an ELO song, i think it was Evil Women and i was fuckin' shocked!!

hey, i was readin' the song credits to Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Buisness  album and OH MY FUCKIN' GOD!!!, the amount of samplin' these cockheads use is unbelievable!! :o :o :o :o :o

Dude you obviously know very little about music if you can make a statement like this.  Find the movie "scratch" and watch that and learn about the genre before you go making ignorant comments like this.  And I don't care how how many posts you have either.

good for you, (whats with the post comment) rap artist arnt artist, and i dont give a shit about your movie, if they can only use old school samples n' not come up with anythin' from themselves then thats not talent, thats a rip off!!

honestly, its cool for somethin' here n' there, but thats all they seem to do these days!!!   

 :P :P

you don't know how sampling works man.   i could say the exact same fucking thing about someone using a G chord  :-\

oh c'mon dude, thats just stupid!!!

why dont we say were all rippin' eachother off!!

next time i write a song usin' a fkn G chord i better think of EVERY FUCKIN' SONG THAT USES ONE!! ::)
thats not sampling or takin' someone els' material, ITS A FUCKIN' NOTE!!

dude, i really dont mined sampling, but when its used n' abused i think its wrong, i know how sampling works!!


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Groovie In VT on March 28, 2006, 01:01:25 AM
At the middle of the video, the lead singer does a half ass Axl Snake Dance ,lol

Wouldn't that be a Half Ass Davy Jones Monkees dance?? I think Axl copied him.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: disillusionz on March 28, 2006, 09:59:52 AM
I like the first half of it.  From the rap on...  I could probably do without.

I like it a helluva lot more than what I've heard of CKY or mixmaster mike (I think that's his name anyhow).


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 11:01:54 AM
Although I'm not a fan of Don't Cry being used like this, it's not that bad.  I'm not a fan of the genre or anything, but it's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be.  Sure, we can all do without the rap and ridiculous special effects of the video, but it's great that GNR's music is flexible enough to still be used in pop music.  Not only that, it's getting the Guns N' Roses name back out there.  Certainly, getting the music back out there appealing to younger generations is a positive thing in that it could cause the kids to get into GNR and realize that they can relate to the music.  If that's the case, then it will definitely boost ticket sales here in North America.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: nonlinear on March 28, 2006, 11:05:22 AM
EVERY rap artist can GET FUCKED, well, just the cunts who constantly use samples n' shit....GET FUCKED

i heard a fucked up rap song TODAY from some bitch who uses the intro to an ELO song, i think it was Evil Women and i was fuckin' shocked!!

hey, i was readin' the song credits to Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Buisness  album and OH MY FUCKIN' GOD!!!, the amount of samplin' these cockheads use is unbelievable!! :o :o :o :o :o

Dude you obviously know very little about music if you can make a statement like this.  Find the movie "scratch" and watch that and learn about the genre before you go making ignorant comments like this.  And I don't care how how many posts you have either.

good for you, (whats with the post comment) rap artist arnt artist, and i dont give a shit about your movie, if they can only use old school samples n' not come up with anythin' from themselves then thats not talent, thats a rip off!!

honestly, its cool for somethin' here n' there, but thats all they seem to do these days!!!   

 :P :P

you don't know how sampling works man.   i could say the exact same fucking thing about someone using a G chord  :-\

oh c'mon dude, thats just stupid!!!

why dont we say were all rippin' eachother off!!

next time i write a song usin' a fkn G chord i better think of EVERY FUCKIN' SONG THAT USES ONE!! ::)
thats not sampling or takin' someone els' material, ITS A FUCKIN' NOTE!!

dude, i really dont mined sampling, but when its used n' abused i think its wrong, i know how sampling works!!

You condem the genre of hip hop because it uses 'samples' in place of a drum beat or a guitar chord.  Go watch a good turntabilist and I guareentee you will have utmost respect and won't be saying  that thay're ripping people off.  I've been playing guitar since about 1991, and I can guarentee you that "beat juggling' is more difficult than playing guitar.  In beat juggling, a sample is used like a drum beat or LIKE A FUCKIN' NOTE (that's what I meant when i said you didn't understand sampling).  maybe you'r'e thinnking of P Diddy- or kanye west-type sampling where e.g. an entire chorus is sampled from a song, but I can tell you that this is a huge minority in the genre of hip hop and so it's not fair to say that by using samples, hip hop is rippin' other people off.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: huntermc on March 28, 2006, 12:50:47 PM
Yeah, this isn't terrible, it's just a generic pop song. It makes me want to go back and listen to the original again.


Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: ClintroN on March 28, 2006, 03:00:48 PM
EVERY rap artist can GET FUCKED, well, just the cunts who constantly use samples n' shit....GET FUCKED

i heard a fucked up rap song TODAY from some bitch who uses the intro to an ELO song, i think it was Evil Women and i was fuckin' shocked!!

hey, i was readin' the song credits to Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Buisness  album and OH MY FUCKIN' GOD!!!, the amount of samplin' these cockheads use is unbelievable!! :o :o :o :o :o

Dude you obviously know very little about music if you can make a statement like this.  Find the movie "scratch" and watch that and learn about the genre before you go making ignorant comments like this.  And I don't care how how many posts you have either.

good for you, (whats with the post comment) rap artist arnt artist, and i dont give a shit about your movie, if they can only use old school samples n' not come up with anythin' from themselves then thats not talent, thats a rip off!!

honestly, its cool for somethin' here n' there, but thats all they seem to do these days!!!   

 :P :P

you don't know how sampling works man.   i could say the exact same fucking thing about someone using a G chord  :-\

oh c'mon dude, thats just stupid!!!

why dont we say were all rippin' eachother off!!

next time i write a song usin' a fkn G chord i better think of EVERY FUCKIN' SONG THAT USES ONE!! ::)
thats not sampling or takin' someone els' material, ITS A FUCKIN' NOTE!!

dude, i really dont mined sampling, but when its used n' abused i think its wrong, i know how sampling works!!

You condem the genre of hip hop because it uses 'samples' in place of a drum beat or a guitar chord.  Go watch a good turntabilist and I guareentee you will have utmost respect and won't be saying  that thay're ripping people off.  I've been playing guitar since about 1991, and I can guarentee you that "beat juggling' is more difficult than playing guitar.  In beat juggling, a sample is used like a drum beat or LIKE A FUCKIN' NOTE (that's what I meant when i said you didn't understand sampling).  maybe you'r'e thinnking of P Diddy- or kanye west-type sampling where e.g. an entire chorus is sampled from a song, but I can tell you that this is a huge minority in the genre of hip hop and so it's not fair to say that by using samples, hip hop is rippin' other people off.


ok far enough, my bass player is one of the best turn tablest i've seen :o   i know how scratchin' is difficult, that requires talent  : ok:

over all, yes im talkin' about what you said when people use entire chorus' , or just rely on other peoples material, sctratchin' is different, i couldnt believe it when i heard Steve Wonders Very Supastitius  (spellin') totaly cover'd by some chick but with totaly diff lyrics man, A WHOLE FUCKIN' SONG!!!  ::)



Title: Re: music crime at its worst
Post by: nonlinear on March 28, 2006, 03:20:16 PM
^^ and yes scratching but more importantly 'beat juggling' which is far more difficult but is the foundation of hip hop