Here Today... Gone To Hell!

So, I'm a diabetic so I drink diet pop. But, if I had a choice to choose between Coke and Pepsi I would choose regular pepsi because I think Coke and Diet coke are just nasty especially diet coke.

So, I was wondering if people prefer coke or pepsi more.

Hmm, pretty hard choice actually, if you'll ask me.

It depends, from time to time.

Right now I drink Pepsi, but I probably will get tired of it pretty soon, and then I'll drink Coke.

If I have to take one, I'll go with Pepsi, why? Because I like the taste better, not that super-sweet taste that regular/light Coke have.

shouldn't the tiltle say Pepsi/Coca Cola? And my answer is Budweiser.

I'm not  a big soda fan. I do like coke better than Pepsi with JD.

I supposed it should. I just changed it for you however Budweiser is an invalid choice.  ;)

They say that Pepsi and Coke taste different in every country...in my country Coke rules and Pepsi tastes like shit

I remember in the UK that Pepsi tasted like shit but Coke wasn't as good as it is here in Australia IMO.

Anyway of course I say Coke  :D

I'll take coke, pepsi just tastes like shit over here :-\

sorry, you're wrong!!!  :rant:  Pepsi tastes much, much better!!!  :yes:

I'll go Coke, but there isn't a ton of difference. Shouldn't this be a polled topic anyway?

Maybe but I do not posses the authorization to create polls.

This happens to be a major pet peeve of mine.

I believe SOME people can taste a difference between pepsi and coke.  However, I don't believe that the difference is enough to make one or the other so disgusting that they simply can't drink it.  If you like the general "cola" flavor then the slight differences between pepsi and coke really don't make that much difference.

I think people claim to only drink one or the other for attention, or because they think one is "cool".  I have a sister who makes a big production at my house  if there is only Pepsi available.  She has to announce "I don't drink Pepsi."  And I have to tell her to buy her own soda then and shut the hell up.   

I prefer Pepsi slightly, it doesn't really matter if I don't have a choice though.


Cold Pepsi goes down slightly smoother I feel.


Anyways, this thread should be Coke Vs Pepsi Vs Irn Bru  :yes:

Normal coke!

Pepsi all the way!  : ok:

you're right about the coke tasting different in different countries.  I went to the coke plant in Atlanta and there were like 50 different flavors all labeled by country.  Some were awful - I especially remember the one for Italy being the worse.

Probably tasted a bit greasy?!  :P

 :hihi:  Actually it was very bitter.  It was funny to see everyone tasting them and when they got to Italy, they would freeze and then try to get someone else to taste it.  :hihi:

I don't care either way, just so long as it's made with SUGAR and not that high fructose corn syrup crap.

If sugar, give me Coke or Dr. Pepper.  With HFCS, give me a Vanilla Pepsi or Lime Coke.

pepsi is the nectar of the gods.

 

Coca Cola all the way. :yes:

And Cherry Coke is better than Dr Pepper too.

Blasphemy!!!!

Guess you haven't had it in Italy then.  :hihi:

Ill drink either if its all someone has at their house but when I go to the store i buy

1.coke
2.mello yello
3.Dr Pepper
4.Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr Pepper
5.Cherry Coke

thats my top 5.

(http://www.americancandy.de/images/mountain_dew.jpg)

Am I the only one who likes this?
By the by Pepsi > Coke.

HELL YEAH!! Mt Dew is the best!!
But for the sake of the topic, old fashioned Coca~Cola in a BOTTLE is the best. However, you can't get that any more. Damn freaks at Coke trying to compete with Pepsi had to change their formula and then when people got? :rant: pissed they made "Classic Coke" which is total bullshit! Still, if I have to pick (because true Southern Hos prefer) Coke

I don't like either.

The only things I drink are water, green tea and wine, lol, I sound like an old woman  ::)

I used to love Mountain Dew when I was a kid, one day I was travelling with my parents when I was 10 in the car and it made me really sick.. even though it probably wasn't the drink.. I can just never bring myself to drink it again.. ever!

I like Pepsi and Pepsi products better with the exception of one; I love Vanilla Coke.  Meanwhile, Coke is better for mixing with whiskey, while Pepsi is better for mixing with rum.  That's just how it goes!

Pepsi.

I like Coca Cola, but I think Pepsi is way better!!

Any Coke sucks!
Juice all the way, that freaking gases are a pain in the stomach  :no:

Well, I'm more of a milk man myself... loves the stuff I do.

What I posted above is if I had to choose between Coke and Pepsi.

i find pepsi tastes like a mouthful of dust.i prefer coke but rarely drink it.much prefer guinness  :drool:

Actually, I believe (and we'll see if I'm right) what you're talking about is something called "Beverly".

And it trully is awful.

FYI, I prefer Coke to Pepsi.

And for the person above who thinks they both taste similar and there isn't enough of a difference to call one or the other disgusting.... I beg to differ.  Pepsi might not be "disgusting", but it tastes different enough for you to notice....and I can see someone disliking it if they have a hard preference for Coke.

You put them both in a cup, blind, and I can tell the difference...very easily.

Water, bitches!

Pepsi just tastes too sweet, I prefer Coke.
When I was in Saudi Arabia, if you would buy a bottle of Coke downtown in Bahrain, it definitely tasted different, almost as if it was watered down quite a bit.

A cold glass of Coke is an absolute must with a good pizza.

Actually if I could find it I would choose Jolt over either of these two.

As I said, I believe some people can tell a difference.  But I don't believe that if you like Pepsi, you could find Coke so disgusting as to refuse to drink it.  So if you order Pepsi in a restaurant and the waitress says "Coke ok?", if you say no, I say you are being pretentious.  Now let me add that I didn't know that either tastes different in other countries, so that I can't speak to.

As far as a blind taste test, I've known people who claim the same thing.  So we tested them, and when it was just pepsi and coke, several of them could  tell the difference.  But when we threw a third choice in, I think it was RC, no one could figure them out.  So again, I say, no cola flavored drink is all that different from the other. 

Pepsi is much sweeter tasting - Coke has a much more defined "cola" taste to it.  I can drink pepsi, but I will go out of my way to have Coke.  If I know a restaurant or fast food place serves pepsi, I try to find another place that has coke.  Diet pepsi is just piss in a can its really gross.

Coke in Germany nasted really odd though - it was so sweet and "filmy" that I could feel it on my teeth hours after I drank it...same in the Czech republic.  Thai coke is pure sugar haha.  It was normal in NZ and Australia though.

YES!!!  That's it!  I never would have remembered the name, but now that you said it, I remember!  How did you know?

http://www.aspartame.com/

http://aspartame.com/fox5.rm           < ----------   (This is really worth listening to)

Watch the trailer on the first page.

I like pepsi better than coke.

Clearly Canadian used to be good until they changed companies.

Milk, at least a litre a day, baby.

Oh, and do the Squirts still exist?

Thanks for the videos. Those were very imformative.

But, you should know SLCPunk that their are 2 sides to every story. And, out of all those 90 something symptons, I actually have one and those are the headaches and I don't even really get them anymore.

You should also consider that many people are suffering from other things than aspartame. I mean none of those people had proof that aspartame directly caused their illnesses.

Also, I won't be changing my drinking habits from some girl who claimed aspartame destroyed her life.

***

However, I am considering stopping and drinking all pop together and see what kind of changes I see after 2-3 weeks. It has to be 2-3 weeks cause I have to get over the withdrawals.  ;D

Coke   : ok:

No one should ingest aspartame... that's why I like my Splenda!

I had a majority of those symptoms and when I stopped drinking diet coke, they went away. I also had a tumor removed from my hand.

If people go to the doctor and he says "Nothing is wrong" but they quit drinking diet sodas and the symtoms go away, then rest assured that is probably what was ailing them. To me, that is proof enough.

Others may have no problem with aspartame, just as others may smoke their entire life and not get cancer.

I have had doctors tell me not to drink that shit before and I wish I had listened to them.

There is also a reason they are switching over to Splenda these days. They won't admit it for liability, but they are switching over to Splenda (gum, foods etc) because it is (supposed to be) safer.

But hey, keep on drinking it up if you like. My wife's old boss drank the hell out of diet mountain dew. He also developed a tumor in his brain. It was not cancer, but it was not able to be removed with surgery. It created horrible headaches on a daily basis and made him one miserable person.

pepsi MAX!!!

man, there all turnin' to shit.....go the Sunkist or Solo...or some other shit!! : ok:

Yeah, I think I'm gonna stop drinking it. What about caffeine pills? Are those safe?

Okay, so looking at the list of symptons, this is what I'm dealing with:
-headaches.
-minor anxiety attacks.
-Irritability
-Impotency and Sexual Problems (just kidding.)
-Phobias (I have a fear of crossing a street. I think that the cars are gonna hit me.)

Pepsi.
but since I don't drink a lot of soda with sugar, or I don't really drink much soda at all, I usually go with diet Coke. Pepsi Max is the only Pepsi here without sugar, and it sucks bigtime!

use Ginseng pills (or make ginseng tea). perks you right up!

Okay, sounds great.

PEPSI ALL THE DAMN WAY

Sorry im gonna have to disagree..... I say coke because of the taste and its colours u can soo tell pepsi is american and coke is canadian... i dont know if thats the truth but thats how im gonna justify my responce : ok:
Rock On :peace:

coke isn't canadian.. :nervous:

Coke is American because it declares a war on my insides.  Pepsi keeps the peace as it goes through...  :P  :hihi:

Okay, so mark this down, I officially quit drinking diet pop and am drinking energy drinks now. They don't have aspartame in them, I checked.

So, wish me luck.

And thank you SLCPunk, you've been a huge influence on me.

I noticed that.  I'm not criticizing SLC, he seems like a smart guy.  But you seem rather easily led.  I mean, in the end, isn't SLC just a guy on a message board?  And you are going to make health decisions based on his advice? 

I'm not that easily led. But, I'm not hard-headed either. SLCPunk and I are pretty close so it's not like it's just another poster giving me advice.

I've heard for years about the dangers of aspartame and I just decided it was time to quit. One of these days, I'd like to stop drinking caffeine altogether but right now, I'm just planning on not drinking anything with aspartame in it and reducing the amount of caffeine intake.

Also take in mind that SLCPunk gave references to why I should stop. He just wanted me to consider the dangers of aspartame, it wasn't like he said, YOU HAVE TO STOP!

It would be like me telling my mom and sister, you have to stop smoking because you're gonna get CANCER!

Energy drinks don't have aspartame in them. And, I'm only drinking one everyday.

And, I'm scrawny so I could use a little bit of a weight lift.

I like Sobe No Fear.

If you're ever in CT, you let me know.  We'll set it up. :)  I might not be able to pick out the difference between RC and Pepsi (they DO taste very similar to me), but I can tell you which one is Coke.

There is a pretty different taste to Coke and Pepsi, and, as I said, I can see having a decided preference.  I prefer Coke, but will drink Pepsi if there's no other Cola choice (If I'm hankering for cola, that is...I'm usually an iced tea drinker).  It's like anything else in this world.  It's not, IMHO, a matter of pretensiousness...it's a matter of preferences.

Heh heh...

Beverly is almost legendary amongst Disney Nuts (and yes, I'm am one such avowed nut) which grew from Ice Station Cool down at Epcot in Orlando.

Ice Station Cool (which was recently renovated and renamed) also gives out those free samples of Coke products from around the world.  I think MOST people, from the US, who have actually tried it...tried it at Epcot.  And given it's awfulness, it became something of a legend (and a prank to play on those who had not ever tried it). 

I've tried it.  It's pretty awful.  And I did pull the prank on my wife when we went down.  :)

I can avow that Nutrasweet/aspartame gives me headaches.  100% avow to it.

And yes, I can isolate it completely to it.   Eat or drink anything with Nutrasweet and 20 min later, I have a headache.

So it's not just "urban legend"..at least not all of it.

They are switching to Splenda because that's what Atkins and South Beach dieters are allowed to have.


I can't speak for your situation, you know your own body.  But here is the urban legends reference page for asparatame.  Check it out, you'll see that most of the claims you here about asparatame have been disproven. 

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad thing to give it up, especially in sodas.  I just think people need to drink more water.  No one NEEDS to drink soda of any kind, or juice, or energy drinks, etc.  And if you are drinking 8 cans of soda a day, you are going to feel like crap because you aren't getting enough water, or you are getting too much caffeine. 

I just hate to see urban legends passed around the internet so often that people think they are fact. 

Everybody is different. But there are enough people who complain that a list of reactions have been released.

I was hoping Splenda would be the safe one, but it makes both my brother and I uneasy in our stomachs. My wife is fine with it though.

Sadly I am at a point now where my headaches have almost stopped with the exception of when I drink coffee. LOL, one of my last vices left. So now, I am slowly lowering my coffee consumption (too fast and I'll get the withdrawl headache ironically) until I can quit enitirely. It's a bummer, because I do love coffee. But I'd give up almost anything if it meant making the headaches go away.

Sterling...I stopped taking Aspartame on Friday March 24th, 2006 and I feel so much better that very afternoon I quit.

There have been many examples of people feeling better once they come off of it. I mean whether it be SLCPunk, Me or any other person in this world, there are quite a few examples.

I'm sure there are, but a few examples don't make it fact.  By all means, give it up, if it makes you feel better.  Even if the change is only psychological.  But the scientific evidence is not there to support the idea that aspartame is some evil chemical.  There is probably more evidence to back up the negative effects of caffeine.

I have seen this "urban legend" on snopes before and I totally disagree with it. Mainly because they were backed with Industry funded studies.

Some of those people studies were funded by nutrasweet itself. So......I can't agree with Snopes.

I also had a doctor years back tell me NOT to drink the stuff, which I dismissed, since I always heard it was safe.

I absolutely refuse to think of it as "urban legend" and I'll tell  you why. Because I have had 80% (give or take) of the symptoms listed by various aspartame info sites. These symtoms came first, then my search online. My story is like many others who had the symtoms and then searched online. Then I found people who had the exact same symtoms, that went away when the consumption of aspartame was cut out. In fact the lady in the interview I posted said the same thing.

To me that is "proof" enough. When I quit, all the symtoms mysteriously vanished. I showed the list to my friend and asked him how many symtoms he had (huge diet coke drinker) and he quit drinking that crap a month later (it took him a while).

Show me the scientific evidence that aspartame has been proven safe.

The only tests that have been done and proven that aspartame was safe was those that were supporting it to begin with.

Meanwhile, there have been many other tests including a test on lab rats (not sure if they were rats or not.) and it proven that aspartame was safe. In fact, the lab animals all devoloped brain tumors.

"Studies of aspartame in the peer reviewed medical literature were surveyed for funding source and study outcome. Of the 166 studies felt to have relevance for questions of human safety, 74 had Nutrasweet? industry related funding and 92 were independently funded. One hundred percent of the industry funded research attested to aspartame's safety, whereas 92% of the independently funded research identified a problem. A bibliography supplied by the Nutrasweet? Company included many studies of questionable validity and relevance, with multiple instances of the same study being cited up to 6 times. Questions are raised both about aspartame's safety and the broader issue of the appropriateness of industry sponsorship of medical research."

Ralph G. Walton, M.D.
Chairman
The Center for Behavioral Medicine
Forum Health
Professor and Chairman
Department of Psychiatry
Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine


Non Industry funded studies:

http://www.dorway.com/nonindus.html

Ok, but where are the studies that prove its bad?  The sugar industry has been funding them, yet they aren't proving anything. 

There are so many other things that can cause these "symptoms" that the cause and effect simply isn't there.  For example, your friend was a big "diet coke" drinker.  Sodas contain large amounts of phosphorous.  Phosphorous and calcium need to be consumed in a 1:1 ratio for your body to properly absorb the calcium.  Most people don't get anywhere need the same amount of calcium as they do phosphorous, leading to a calcium deficiency.  That can cause you all kinds of problems, since your heart needs calcium to function properly.  Not to mention if you primarily drink diet coke, you are probably somewhat dehydrated.  Dehydration, even minor, can cause headaches, difficulty concentrating, fatigue, etc.  So I'm sure giving it up would make anyone feel better. 

I don't care if people want to give up nutrasweet, really.  But when a diabetic chooses to give it up over evidence that is questionable at best, I hope he knows what he is doing.  He knows what sugar will do to his body, the jury is still out on asparatame.  (and splenda too--not enough studies done on Splenda yet).

And the other thing is...moderation.  Maybe its not necessary to give it up completely, but limit it to a serving or two a day.  Not every single time you reach for something to drink.  Nothing is good for you if you overdo it. 

Sterling, you're like my mother. You're both hard-headed and refuse to give in to other people's ideas. In fact, she questioned my move to quit ingesting aspartame.

Besides that, you still haven't provided evidence that aspartame is safe.

See above.

This is what I had: (what I thought were) Migraines, stomach pain, joint pain, unable to focus, mood swings, tumor in my hand (doctor said that this type of tumor was usually found in the head), shortness of breath, dizziness, fatigue, acne,  circles under my eyes (figured it was hereditary) and weight GAIN. I felt like I was 100 years old. Doctors visits yielded nothing, everything checked out ok. Given meds for adult acne and migraine meds and sent on my way.

The symtoms came on real slow and one day I said "I feel horrible all over, what in the hell is going on? I look like shit too!" That is when I searched.


Maybe it was a combination of all things, but I still doubt it. I continued to drink coffee and replaced my diet sodas with iced tea. Circles under my eyes went away, I lost 12 pounds, clarity returned, joint pain went away, no more migraines, no shortness of breath, no dizzy spells, tumor had to be removed from my hand. I still have another lump in the left side of my mouth that appeared at the same time that I have to get removed to this day (hopefully this summer).

Given all that, it would take an act from God to make me believe that aspartame did not cause all that. There is enough info out showing that industry funded studies cherry picking info to push the drug onto the market. A book was even written by a former FDA employee about the omission of crucial information about this drug in their "study" claiming it was safe.

I'll never convince you and you won't convince me.  I'm glad you feel better, really.  Enjoy your health.  Asparatame isn't needed, so give it up.  I don't care.  And I don't consume enough of it to concern myself.  Call me hard-headed if you like.  I actually find that funny.  But I haven't  seen any convincing evidence from a truly reliable source. 

Now I'm going to go eat pineapples and pepperoni pizza and take a walk to try to go into labor...after all thousands of women say it worked for them, so it must be fact, right?

Sterling...

You're officially on my Hall of Fame Shit List. Congratulations.  : ok:

Ha ha!  Is that supposed to hurt my feelings or scare me?  You condemn me for not agreeing on this one point with you and SLC?  Usually I do agree with SLC, but I'm sure he can accept that not everyone will agree with him on every point every time.  And I doubt he demands it of others either.  Intelligent, well informed people don't fear dissenting opinions or open discussion. 

I could go further as to why you particulary object to me...I suspect something I said to you in the past has stuck with you.  But I will drop it now.  Don't want to rise to the top of your shit list!   :nervous:
 

Good luck.  :)

I can.

Obviously I may not feel they same if I had not had it happen to me.

Maybe I am wrong.

Maybe I am not.

But I do feel strongly about this subject.

In my eyes, I see real life stories paired with studies back by the industry.

I have no illusion of changing your mind, but I am convinced I am correct (LOL, like always.)


Pizza, pineapples, or walking?

 :P

7Up... :hihi:

Actually I prefer Pepsi... Coke is just shit. :puke:

Thanks.  But I decided that was too much work.  I think I'll wait for the full moon instead.

Again, I'm not saying it causes cancer or MS or any of those things.

However, for me...it does cause headaches.  Always has...since it was released.  Hell, since before there was any published material that even correlated headaches to Nutrasweet........we quickly made the connection in my household. 
Just like Olean causes some people to have....hmmm...GI issues.....

Now, I've seen independant studies that say they've seen the same sorts of symptoms and a study that says they don't.  I also know that, with sacchrin, it took quite awhile for them to come to a consenus on it's effects.  However, the one thing I know with absolute certainty is that, when I drink or eat something with nutrasweet, 20 min later I have a headache.  I have no problem chalking that up to a peculiarity in my body chemistry.


I'm not saying it's "bad" for everyone, but I, for one, certainly have some sort of almost allergic reaction to it. 

Yeah, I was wondering maybe some people don't have the proper enzyme to digest it, or something like that.  Like people with PKU - that's just really severe.  I don't know if anyone has ever done a study to compare people who react to it to people who don't.  But it would be interesting. 

Actually, there's one thing (you can ask your ob, actually) that is better at inducing labor than anything else.

Sex.? And Sex with lots of nipple stimulation.

Seriously.

On the wives tale note, though, some women swear by castor oil....but I've heard that process can be both uncomfortable and somewhat dangerous, depending on where you are in the pregnancy.

With our first, my wife was 10 days overdue and considered using castor oil....and quickly decided against it. :)

Yeah, I've heard of both of those.  But they actually warn you against the nipple stimulation thing, because it causes such strong contractions they can hurt the baby.  And I heard castor oil just makes you feel like crap, and doesn't even work. 

I'm just getting impatient because I think I'm going to have a 10 pound baby and I'm not having an epidural.  I'm going with hypnosis instead, so I can report to you all if that works or not.  But we are going way off topic. 

Very true - my oldest was born 4 weeks early!? :P

Good luck, Sterling!? I never had any meds during my deliveries - it's really not THAT bad. ;)? The best thing is that you are perfectly fine and able to walk to the shower 1 min after the delivery when you do it naturally.? : ok:

PS - I didn't realize I was in the pepsi/coke thread.  :P  Beverly SUCKS!  :hihi:  < there, wanted to stay on topic!  ;D

Pepsi Max for me

i hate cola, gimme mountain dew.  :drool: