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Title: Album to be released next month?
Post by: ckniker on March 19, 2006, 09:17:15 PM
According to a World Entertainment News Network story that was posted on a Clear Channel radio station in Battle Creek, MI the new GNR album is slated to drop next month.? After going to a few different Clear Channel affiliates it appears that they use this London based news wire for content.? If Clear Channel is contracting with this company for news it must have some level of credibility.?

This is just speculation on my part but perhaps the GNR camp and label have been so tight lipped about the album coming out to help prevent it from being pirated as long as possible.? The longer they wait to service press, radio, and regional sales reps with advance copies of the album the less likely the album is to leak prior to the release date.? ?This may be a possible reason as to why we haven't seen the long sought after press release.

I also found the same story on Denver's KBPI (Clear Channel) at: http://kbpi.com/script/headline_newsmanager_alt.php?id=464652&pagecontent=MusicNewsClassicRock&feed_id=25?

The story can be found here: http://www.keener1049.com/script/headline_newsmanager_alt.php?id=464652&pagecontent=MusicNewsClassicRock&feed_id=25.

Story is also on Clear Channel's concert website: http://cc.com/script/headline_newsmanager_alt.php?id=464652&pagecontent=MusicNewsClassicRock&feed_id=25

Story is also on a San Diego station: http://www.rock1053.com/script/headline_newsmanager_alt.php?id=464652&pagecontent=MusicNewsClassicRock&feed_id=25

Miami/Ft Lauderdal: http://www.big1059.com/script/headline_newsmanager_alt.php?id=464652&pagecontent=MusicNewsClassicRock&feed_id=25

WENN's website is located at www.wenn.com.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: kunzerd on March 19, 2006, 09:21:02 PM
though it could be true, a release date could get leaked out to someone just like the demos, its hard to keep things a secret forever in the information age, but i wont hold stock in it until i see it show up on more sites, in more radio programs.

actually, i dont beleive anything unless i see it here.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: GnFnR87 on March 19, 2006, 09:32:45 PM
This is just speculation on my part but perhaps the GNR camp and label have been so tight lipped about the album coming out to help prevent it from being pirated as long as possible.? The longer they wait to service press, radio, and regional sales reps with advance copies of the album the less likely the album is to leak prior to the release date.? ?This may be a possible reason as to why we haven't seen the long sought after press release.

this actually makes sense but if the album is gonna drop next month then that would? mean we would hear some rumblings about a single soon... [crosses fingers]


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: SLCPUNK on March 19, 2006, 09:33:30 PM
It would be nice.

But I dunno.........


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 19, 2006, 09:33:38 PM


Story is also on Clear Channel's concert website: http://cc.com/script/headline_newsmanager_alt.php?id=464652&pagecontent=MusicNewsClassicRock&feed_id=25


fuck, if CC is posting this, it should be true, right? please tell me it should be true


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: kunzerd on March 19, 2006, 09:34:32 PM
maybe thats what the march 28th date that was a rumoured cd release date was really all about.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: kunzerd on March 19, 2006, 09:35:23 PM
did you add those other links after your initial post? i didnt see them the first time.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: ckniker on March 19, 2006, 09:37:56 PM
did you add those other links after your initial post? i didnt see them the first time.


Yes I did.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: kunzerd on March 19, 2006, 09:40:45 PM
i cant find a definite link between this cc.com and http://www.clearchannel.com/

are we sure they are affiliated? the only reason why i ask is because all the websites look exactly the same. just doesnt feel right.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: a. on March 19, 2006, 09:42:36 PM
though it could be true, a release date could get leaked out to someone just like the demos, its hard to keep things a secret forever in the information age, but i wont hold stock in it until i see it show up on more sites, in more radio programs.

actually, i dont beleive anything unless i see it here.

I have a feeling that the demo's were released to sidetrack us, and others, prior to the release date. There's a reason Axl is hanging out in NYC.

Anyone heard of this?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EOTE9K/ref=ase_pauplathemuss-20/002-2817511-6673660?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130&tagActionCode=pauplathemuss-20


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on March 19, 2006, 09:43:19 PM
mysteron,darknemus where are you ?: ok:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: ckniker on March 19, 2006, 09:44:44 PM
i cant find a definite link between this cc.com and http://www.clearchannel.com/

are we sure they are affiliated? the only reason why i ask is because all the websites look exactly the same. just doesnt feel right.

www.cc.com is Clear Channel's concert website to promote their sponsored tours and venues they own.  www.clearchannel.com is the company's corporate website.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: kunzerd on March 19, 2006, 09:45:45 PM
i just wasnt sure because in clear channels other businesses section of their corp. website it makes no mention of cc.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: ckniker on March 19, 2006, 09:50:41 PM
i just wasnt sure because in clear channels other businesses section of their corp. website it makes no mention of cc.

No worries.  Clear Channel spun off their concert promotion company (Live Nation) into its own entity in 2004.  If you click on the privacy policy on cc.com you will find this:

"Effective January 1, 2004

This site ("Site") is owned by Live Nation, a division of Clear Channel. Live Nation is a family of entertainment and media companies that includes Clear Channel Radio, Clear Channel Television, Live Nation, Clear Channel Outdoor and Clear Channel International. For more information about Live Nation, please visit www.livenation.com."


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: kunzerd on March 19, 2006, 09:53:10 PM
well that links cc to clear channel. what i want is a link from clear channel to cc. that way no one can argue the validity of the information.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: ckniker on March 19, 2006, 09:57:03 PM
well that links cc to clear channel. what i want is a link from clear channel to cc. that way no one can argue the validity of the information.


HMMM how about this:

http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=cc.com&type=domain

cc.com is on Clear Channel's DNS server.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: kunzerd on March 19, 2006, 10:00:29 PM
thanks.


so many rumours go around about this album that i just wanted to make sure this source was air tight.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: ckniker on March 19, 2006, 10:02:30 PM
thanks.


so many rumours go around about this album that i just wanted to make sure this source was air tight.

I hear ya.  This doesn't guarantee they're accurate on this one but at least its not like "Joe Blow's Fanzine" floating a rumor they heard from a friend of a friend of a cousin.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Genesis on March 19, 2006, 10:05:17 PM
Blah. I'll believe it when I see it.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: chineseblues on March 19, 2006, 10:06:33 PM
mysteron,darknemus where are you  : ok:

you dont need them to tell you this is bullshit.  : ok:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on March 19, 2006, 10:07:53 PM
mysteron,darknemus where are you? : ok:

you dont need them to tell you this is bullshit.? : ok:
your probebly right  : ok:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: metallex78 on March 20, 2006, 12:01:26 AM
With so many sites reporting this, there might be some validity, but website tend to copy stories from eachother too and being a GN'R fan, I am as pessimistic as always : ok:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: duga on March 20, 2006, 12:36:17 AM
You can always release a (finished) album on iTunes tomorrow. Needs no promotion.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: HungerForChaos on March 20, 2006, 12:37:42 AM
I heard from my cousin's friend's mailman that Axl created a clone of himself, and his clone is now in the band.....

Ok, seriously, this could be true...., but I won't believe it untill it's on shelves. :P


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: RichardNixon on March 20, 2006, 12:41:02 AM
I would think there would be some sort of press release two months before. A single will come out like six weeks before an album, right? The new Pearl Jam and RHCP are comming out in the summer and we have heard about them. If CD was going to be released next month, I would think we would have heard something by now.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: da_pope on March 20, 2006, 12:51:03 AM
I won't believe anything until I open the HTGTH home site and I see "Chinese Democracy Release Date Officially Announced" or "Chinese Democracy to be released (date)" and then when I click on it I want to see a viable source.

It be great if another Axl interview pops up and he says that "Soon is not the word"... This place would erupt!


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: AxlFink on March 20, 2006, 01:13:44 AM
I won't believe anything until I open the HTGTH home site and I see "Chinese Democracy Release Date Officially Announced" or "Chinese Democracy to be released (date)" and then when I click on it I want to see a viable source.

It be great if another Axl interview pops up and he says that "Soon is not the word"... This place would erupt!
i think "soon is the word" might make it erupt more.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: WeHeldTogether on March 20, 2006, 01:26:05 AM
wouldn't it be funny if they had a bunch of copies of chinese democracy put into copies of appetite or something?  so no one would expect it?  ;D


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: WAR41 on March 20, 2006, 01:28:54 AM
wouldn't it be funny if they had a bunch of copies of chinese democracy put into copies of appetite or something?  so no one would expect it?  ;D

No.

Back to the original topic, I give you credit for finding all of those links.  It looks like the wire report got sent out and everyone copied and pasted in onto their website. 


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: shotgun_blue on March 20, 2006, 01:35:59 AM
I would think there would be some sort of press release two months before. A single will come out like six weeks before an album, right? The new Pearl Jam and RHCP are comming out in the summer and we have heard about them. If CD was going to be released next month, I would think we would have heard something by now.

U totally agree. If axl is serious about this album he needs to put out a catchy sing-along single before the album to get mass appeal.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: shotgun_blue on March 20, 2006, 01:36:55 AM
I mean I totally agree!  :)


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: killingvector on March 20, 2006, 02:39:37 AM
It is the exact same story for each of those four sources you posted. As any watcher of CSI will tell you, contamination of a sample renders the sample worthless.

I am very skeptical.  Unless a major media outlet picks this up, the veracity of this story is very dubious.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Voodoochild on March 20, 2006, 02:51:16 AM
Is GNR still connected to Clear Channel? I think they are trying to avoid CC in Europe and maybe there's some lawsuit of the whole 2002 thing, so I thought they were not in the cast anymore.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: St_Jimmyuk on March 20, 2006, 05:45:07 AM
i think that gnr with a hype as big as theres it would do them more favours to just drop teh album onto shelves with no warning a hype might encourage more leaks and ruin the album


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 20, 2006, 07:07:25 AM
ok guys, remember i told you about rock am ring like a few weeks ago,at the beginning of all the ferstival announcment, cause someone had contact to the organizers of rock am ring. well, he said an announcment for CD will be made pretty soon..

i am starting to cream my pants


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: badapple81 on March 20, 2006, 07:26:58 AM
At first I thought that Axl would do a handful of these festivals as like promotional/warm up. Then go to the US when he album is out or announced as he wouldn;t tour there again without an album after 02. Holy shit.. after MORE shows in Europe just announced, I'm starting to think we might just have a single within the next couple of months or at least by these shows!!!!!


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 20, 2006, 07:38:28 AM
i really think that CD will be out April 25th


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: badapple81 on March 20, 2006, 07:40:00 AM
That would be 2 days before RIR! Timing would be perfect!


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 20, 2006, 07:42:10 AM
i said APRIL! ;)


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: badapple81 on March 20, 2006, 07:51:42 AM
Oops you did too!  :hihi:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: A Private Eye on March 20, 2006, 08:18:51 AM
Certainly a better source than most, lets hope they are right.

Just my opinion but I don't think we are going to see a single until at least the shows have started, the reason I think this is because the band will obviously have a video to suppport the single and whilst I know this is a new band GNR singles generally showed the band performing live in some part of the video. I also think this would be a great way to introduce the band to the world, a kickass song with a video of them performing at least some of it live. I don't think they will use old 02 footage, so my guess is that after a couple of shows the footage of band playing what will be the first single is compiled and turned into at least some of the singles video. Just my thoughts on why we might not see anything until after the shows begin.

Even if that's the case if we have a first single in June or July and a CD release date I don't mind the April rumour not being true. I can wait an extra 2 months  :peace:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 20, 2006, 09:15:40 AM
I was always under the impression that CD is going to be marketed different than any album before it.  So, from a piracy and shock standpoint, it would be in GNRs best interest to release an album with little warning.  I'm still holding out for a single in April, and an album in May. : ok:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on March 20, 2006, 09:45:43 AM
the bigger this tour gets the more i believe that CD will be out before Rock In Rio.id go with a mid may release now.

as for piracy,its gonna be close to the release date before anybody can get hold of this album but im sure it will spread way faster than any album has ever done.as for me,ill be buying mine on release day and DEFINETLY NOT DOWNLOADIN IT. : ok:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 20, 2006, 09:49:51 AM
the bigger this tour gets the more i believe that CD will be out before Rock In Rio.id go with a mid may release now.

as for piracy,its gonna be close to the release date before anybody can get hold of this album but im sure it will spread way faster than any album has ever done.as for me,ill be buying mine on release day and DEFINETLY NOT DOWNLOADIN IT. : ok:

In all honesty, if it is scheduled for release and it leaks the week before, I will wait.

If it leaks with no sign of release, I will definately download it.

If there is a special iTunes version, which there will be, I will buy that.

If there is a collectors edition, which there will be, I will buy that too.

I will buy every single with a b-side.

I will download because I am impatient, I will buy it cause I am a fan.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on March 20, 2006, 10:01:15 AM
the bigger this tour gets the more i believe that CD will be out before Rock In Rio.id go with a mid may release now.

as for piracy,its gonna be close to the release date before anybody can get hold of this album but im sure it will spread way faster than any album has ever done.as for me,ill be buying mine on release day and DEFINETLY NOT DOWNLOADIN IT. : ok:

In all honesty, if it is scheduled for release and it leaks the week before, I will wait.

If it leaks with no sign of release, I will definately download it.

If there is a special iTunes version, which there will be, I will buy that.

If there is a collectors edition, which there will be, I will buy that too.

I will buy every single with a b-side.

I will download because I am impatient, I will buy it cause I am a fan.

yeah,i agree with you.but i just dont want to hear it for the first time by downloadin some mixed up low quality torrent or somethin like that.

as for buying the album,ill also buy the singles,videos,t shirts,mugs,socks,caps,table cloths,mouse mat,clock,garden furniture,dining table,tree,car,shops,houses,fields or anything else that comes with an authentic official chinese democracy logo  :hihi:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: shaun on March 20, 2006, 10:04:30 AM
I will download the album first before i buy it. Just in case it's no good. I download every album these days for this reason. The lastest album from Garbage [bleed like me] sucked so much. Placebo's latest album [meds] is really something, its more of the same, which isn't a bad direction to take, so when my downloaded [inferior mp3] version stops playing, i will go out and buy the proper compact disc [better then mp3] version. I think this way i can justify my download antics without feeling like i am ripping off artists or record companies. Before the dawn of downloading, there were many a times when id go out and pick up a new record only to find 1 good track on the whole god dam thing.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: Saul on March 20, 2006, 10:11:26 AM
i really hope they go all out with the packaging/booklet etc etc for the album.  : ok:

and hopefully also release it on VINYL.  :beer:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 20, 2006, 10:12:29 AM
after the european tour :peace:


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: newgnr on March 20, 2006, 10:12:44 AM
i download ALL my music. ?But there are only two bands I will buy from: obviosly I will be buying Chinese Democracy, and I will be buying Pearl Jam's new cd in May. ?But unless those two bands put out more material, its back to downloading for me.


Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: highend88 on March 20, 2006, 10:15:34 AM
I have not bought any CD since 1997 when we had access to download them online and the quality almost the same as the original. But if C.Democracy is released, I will buy them even for $100.



Title: Re: Album to be released next month?
Post by: RitzWalker8 on March 20, 2006, 10:20:18 AM
I agree with oh my choking soul 100%.