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Title: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: whiny on March 16, 2006, 11:50:18 AM
hi!

just wondering what reliable (insider-)infos or rumours about possible chinese democracy tracks are floating around the net; what songs was axl relating to when he spoke of "still holding back the big guns"; what are the songs which names we already know (seven, prostitute, closing in on you, general, thyme etc.) going to be like. what are the ballads, rockers, pop-tunes on cd? what songs are gonna be the "earthshattering" and "breathtaking" ones - the stuff we are really waiting for? in other words: have we already heard the big guns and singles (better, twat, citr)?

just tell what you know or heard... but please: don't be just wildley speculating or simply making things up...

what i know is:

"rhiad and..." known as a "tryout" for the last tour
"silkworms": same as the above (thanks god...)
"this i love": one of the heavies things axl ever wrote and very likely an epic one
"catcher in the rye": considered as one of axl`s most daring move
"chinese democracy": rs labeled this as "almost grungy" (which is quite true)
"twat", "madagascar" and "the blues": epic (power)-ballads (as we know from the leaks and the live versions)




Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: imsorry on March 16, 2006, 12:04:56 PM
this i love never heard it is there a mp3 of it?
is it an old tune or what?  :peace:


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: whiny on March 16, 2006, 12:13:23 PM
"this i love" is said to be written during the uyi tour; no mp3 - sorry


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: godiva on March 16, 2006, 12:17:38 PM
Just wait for the album... :peace:


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: KillYourIdols on March 16, 2006, 12:18:27 PM
So farit's just a "rumoured" song...though it most likely exists no one has heard it.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: killingvector on March 16, 2006, 12:19:44 PM
Prostitute was 'fire' and 'ice' with orchestration.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: nonlinear on March 16, 2006, 12:20:59 PM
why don't you just read the other threads in the forum - you can find all the answers to your questions there


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: KillYourIdols on March 16, 2006, 12:21:40 PM
Prostitute was 'fire' and 'ice' with orchestration.

Wha?  :confused:


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Markus Asraelius on March 16, 2006, 12:23:08 PM
Fire and Ice is how someone described the song.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: whiny on March 16, 2006, 12:27:34 PM
why don't you just read the other threads in the forum - you can find all the answers to your questions there

read the other threads - i just wanted a new thread where you have one clear focus/question... and maybe some more answers to that...


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: nonlinear on March 16, 2006, 12:40:38 PM
^^  yea but the problem is that no one knows anything about what tracks will be on the album. 

you're better off googling for the 349827349872398573419572938457 silly websites that list the tracks.

sometimes i feel like i'm beatin' a dead horse...


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: whiny on March 16, 2006, 01:07:30 PM
^^? yea but the problem is that no one knows anything about what tracks will be on the album.?

you're better off googling for the 349827349872398573419572938457 silly websites that list the tracks.

sometimes i feel like i'm beatin' a dead horse...

i'm sure SOMEONE knows what tracks are gonna be on cd; the album has been in production for over eight years with a whole lot of people coming & going, hearing the music or working on it; moreover axl played songs from cd in several places... and as far as beating a dead horse goes... that might be the real reason for starting a thread like this... i also think that an overview of what we know about the rumoured songs (in the forum of a really good website) is better than to google "349827349872398573419572938457 silly websites", as you put it.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: nonlinear on March 16, 2006, 01:19:16 PM
like i said, WE DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE ALBUM.  Edit: and if anyone in this forum knows anything the rest of us don't, thay sure as hell aren't gonna post it on this public forum

all we know is what axl said at the KORN party in jan.  working on 32 songs, 26 of which are almost done, and 13 on the cd (whatever that means)


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Backslash on March 16, 2006, 01:21:53 PM
I'm of the opinion that the only tracks that we can say exist with 100% confidence are the ones that have either been leaked or played live, and we all already know what they all sound like, I'm sure. ?The tracks that have surfaced since "The Spaghetti Incident?" that have existed without being on an official GNR release are:
1. Sympathy For the Devil
2. Oh My God!
3. Chinese Democracy
4. Madagascar
5. The Blues
6. Silkworms
7. Rihad and the Bedouins
8. IRS
9. TWAT (There Was a Time)
10. Better
11. Catcher in the Rye

These are the only ones that any of us have heard and can pass judgment on. ?That's not to say the others don't exist. ?Something else that has been bothering me is the fact that we're hearing about rumoured song titles. ?Some of the rumoured titles that we're hearing may have since been altered and some of the songs on the list may have originally had a different title. ?As was brought forward on the forum yesterday, November Rain started off as Sweet Lorraine, so any of the speculated song titles may not even exist anymore or have been given new titles.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Mr.Intensity on March 16, 2006, 01:21:58 PM
I thought the biggest gun was supposed to be the new band's remake of Ac/Dc's "Big gun?"


Title: If we have heard the big guns
Post by: shaun on March 16, 2006, 01:24:27 PM
If we have heard the big guns does that make *Welcome to the Jungle an atomic bomb  :hihi:








*could replace with either of the following:

Rocketqueen
Paradise City
Night Train
Its so Easy


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: nonlinear on March 16, 2006, 01:26:02 PM
but please: don't be just wildley speculating or simply making things up...

1. Sympathy For the Devil
2. Oh My God!
3. Chinese Democracy
4. Madagascar
5. The Blues
6. Silkworms
7. Rihad and the Bedouins
8. IRS
9. TWAT (There Was a Time)
10. Better
11. Catcher in the Rye

But no one has any idea what is going to be on CD.  I wouls guess only a couple of the above tracks.  but that would be speculation on my part.....




Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 16, 2006, 01:28:06 PM
wasnt there an article or interview somewhere where they describe the new gnr tracks including The General and prostitute??..


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Backslash on March 16, 2006, 01:30:25 PM
But no one has any idea what is going to be on CD.? I wouls guess only a couple of the above tracks.? but that would be speculation on my part.....


That's what I'm thinking...  ;)

wasnt there an article or interview somewhere where they describe the new gnr tracks including The General and prostitute??..

People say those things but no one here has heard any of them, so it doesn't mean they'll be on a new CD.  I'm not saying that they don't exist, just bringing them up would be speculating their existence.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: WARose on March 16, 2006, 01:32:40 PM
But no one has any idea what is going to be on CD.  I wouls guess only a couple of the above tracks.  but that would be speculation on my part.....


That's what I'm thinking...  ;)

wasnt there an article or interview somewhere where they describe the new gnr tracks including The General and prostitute??..

People say those things but no one here has heard any of them, so it doesn't mean they'll be on a new CD.  I'm not saying that they don't exist, just bringing them up would be speculating their existence.

either paul buckmaster or marco beltrami did actually describe those songs a while ago :peace:


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Hammy on March 16, 2006, 01:44:46 PM
I thought the biggest gun was supposed to be the new band's remake of Ac/Dc's "Big gun?"
You must of misheard, it's actually their cover of Skid Row's Big Guns ;)


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Nighteyes on March 16, 2006, 01:49:37 PM
I thought the biggest gun was supposed to be the new band's remake of Ac/Dc's "Big gun?"
You must of misheard, it's actually their cover of Skid Row's Big Guns ;)

I'm not a big fan of that song ;)


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: whiny on March 16, 2006, 01:58:06 PM
I thought the biggest gun was supposed to be the new band's remake of Ac/Dc's "Big gun?"
You must of misheard, it's actually their cover of Skid Row's Big Guns ;)

I'm not a big fan of that song ;)

nice try, but you are wrong!

thruth is: after re-doing appetite for destruction a several times, axl simply re-recorded the aerosmith hit collection "big ones": to let the new band get a feeling from what musical direction "guns" originally came from and what the future should bring... some big ones, which can only mean one thing... "greatest hits 2" in summer


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Nighteyes on March 16, 2006, 02:09:28 PM
I thought the biggest gun was supposed to be the new band's remake of Ac/Dc's "Big gun?"
You must of misheard, it's actually their cover of Skid Row's Big Guns ;)

I'm not a big fan of that song ;)

nice try, but you are wrong!

thruth is: after re-doing appetite for destruction a several times, axl simply re-recorded the aerosmith hit collection "big ones": to let the new band get a feeling from what musical direction "guns" originally came from and what the future should bring... some big ones, which can only mean one thing... "greatest hits 2" in summer

What does that have to do with me not liking 'Big Guns'?


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: whiny on March 16, 2006, 02:18:11 PM
I thought the biggest gun was supposed to be the new band's remake of Ac/Dc's "Big gun?"
You must of misheard, it's actually their cover of Skid Row's Big Guns ;)

I'm not a big fan of that song ;)

nice try, but you are wrong!

thruth is: after re-doing appetite for destruction a several times, axl simply re-recorded the aerosmith hit collection "big ones": to let the new band get a feeling from what musical direction "guns" originally came from and what the future should bring... some big ones, which can only mean one thing... "greatest hits 2" in summer

What does that have to do with me not liking 'Big Guns'?

sorry, should be adressed to "stoned", "mr. intensity" and every potential other one making a joke out of this thread...


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Nighteyes on March 16, 2006, 02:37:07 PM
I thought the biggest gun was supposed to be the new band's remake of Ac/Dc's "Big gun?"
You must of misheard, it's actually their cover of Skid Row's Big Guns ;)

I'm not a big fan of that song ;)

nice try, but you are wrong!

thruth is: after re-doing appetite for destruction a several times, axl simply re-recorded the aerosmith hit collection "big ones": to let the new band get a feeling from what musical direction "guns" originally came from and what the future should bring... some big ones, which can only mean one thing... "greatest hits 2" in summer

What does that have to do with me not liking 'Big Guns'?

sorry, should be adressed to "stoned", "mr. intensity" and every potential other one making a joke out of this thread...

aha,ok  : ok:


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: TrixAreForKids on March 16, 2006, 03:39:44 PM
"this i love" is said to be written during the uyi tour; no mp3 - sorry

This I Love was intended to be on a Robin Williams soundtrack back in the mid 90's. One of the producers (of that movie) heard the recording and liked it. It was decided that they would not use the song afterall.

This was reported about a year ago. Sp1at had talked with the producer that heard the song.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Neemo on March 16, 2006, 03:43:53 PM
"this i love" is said to be written during the uyi tour; no mp3 - sorry

This I Love was intended to be on a Robin Williams soundtrack back in the mid 90's. One of the producers (of that movie) heard the recording and liked it. It was decided that they would not use the song afterall.

This was reported about a year ago. Sp1at had talked with the producer that heard the song.

robin williams has hi own soundtrack :o

Bastard I want one :crying: with Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) being my main theme that plays where ever I walk :hihi:


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: TrixAreForKids on March 16, 2006, 03:59:36 PM
"this i love" is said to be written during the uyi tour; no mp3 - sorry

This I Love was intended to be on a Robin Williams soundtrack back in the mid 90's. One of the producers (of that movie) heard the recording and liked it. It was decided that they would not use the song afterall.

This was reported about a year ago. Sp1at had talked with the producer that heard the song.

robin williams has hi own soundtrack :o

Bastard I want one :crying: with Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) being my main theme that plays where ever I walk :hihi:

Truthfully, I'm not sure what the movie was called, but I'll get back to you.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Lord Kayoss on March 16, 2006, 04:35:06 PM
"catcher in the rye": considered as one of axl`s most daring move


Risk well taken.  One of the best new songs by far.


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: FlashFlood on March 16, 2006, 04:36:26 PM
i dont understand what makes it a risk


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: WhatIsItMan on March 16, 2006, 05:50:36 PM
I heard 'This I Love' is the beautiful piano piece played during the part where Axl is hiding on the shelf above the kid's room, in the Making of Estranged video.  Anyone?


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: McDuff on March 19, 2006, 01:22:20 AM
"this i love" is said to be written during the uyi tour; no mp3 - sorry

This I Love was intended to be on a Robin Williams soundtrack back in the mid 90's. One of the producers (of that movie) heard the recording and liked it. It was decided that they would not use the song afterall.

This was reported about a year ago. Sp1at had talked with the producer that heard the song.

robin williams has hi own soundtrack :o

Bastard I want one :crying: with Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) being my main theme that plays where ever I walk :hihi:

That was fuckin' funny,it would be cool tho  :rofl:


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Sparksry on March 19, 2006, 11:41:24 AM
These are the songs that should be on th new CD
'Chinese Democracy'
'This I Love'
'I.R.S.'
'Thyme'
 'Substitute'
'The General'
'Seven'
'Madagascar'
'Ides Of March'
'Catcher In The Rye'
'Leave Me Alone'
'The Blues'
'Closing In On You'
'There Was A Time (TWAT)


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: misterbrownstone on March 19, 2006, 03:34:49 PM
These are the songs that should be on th new CD
'Chinese Democracy'
'This I Love'
'I.R.S.'
'Thyme'
 'Substitute'
'The General'
'Seven'
'Madagascar'
'Ides Of March'
'Catcher In The Rye'
'Leave Me Alone'
'The Blues'
'Closing In On You'
'There Was A Time (TWAT)

FAKE!

where's Better?


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: Fortus on March 19, 2006, 04:06:11 PM
These are the songs that should be on th new CD
'Chinese Democracy'
'This I Love'
'I.R.S.'
'Thyme'
 'Substitute'
'The General'
'Seven'
'Madagascar'
'Ides Of March'
'Catcher In The Rye'
'Leave Me Alone'
'The Blues'
'Closing In On You'
'There Was A Time (TWAT)
substituteor prostitute?


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: kunzerd on March 19, 2006, 04:14:25 PM
Im pretty sure the robin williams movie you are talking about is What Dreams May Come


Title: Re: rumoured "big guns" and other cd tracks
Post by: WARose on March 19, 2006, 04:25:10 PM
These are the songs that should be on th new CD
'Chinese Democracy'
'This I Love'
'I.R.S.'
'Thyme'
 'Substitute'
'The General'
'Seven'
'Madagascar'
'Ides Of March'
'Catcher In The Rye'
'Leave Me Alone'
'The Blues'
'Closing In On You'
'There Was A Time (TWAT)
substituteor prostitute?

this tracklist is floating around for a while. it`s a fake one from some article on the internet