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Avenged is a great choice...anyone know what Bullet sound sliek" I've heard OF them, but havn't heard anything of theirs.

the comments about that article pissed me off  >:(

makes sense, for A-Sevenfold at least, I have seen these fools using refernce's to Guns N Roses songs as tag lines to magazine covers too many time the last couple months
ex - Avenged sevenfold - Welcome to the Jungle
Avenged sevenfold - Appetite for Destrcution

maybe they should come up with some song titles of their own, but they will sell some tickets, BS though if VR & GNR really wanted to help Rock N Roll ( as Scott always states), they would get real rock n roll bands to open, not 'new' rock crap like Hobbastank & Avenged Sevenfold

First off, they dont choose the tag lines on the magazine covers.? Second of all, Avenged Sevenfold is one of the most popular bands right now.? Thirdly, they are in no way like the shit that is Hoobastank.

Great choices, hopefully there will be other European shows with those as opening acts.

I fucking hate a7fold they shouldnt even be put in the same fucking stage that GNR is playing at.....Thats if gnr shows up.

AX7 has some killer guitar solos, they aren't afraid to shred & show they actually can play their instruments.

I think the choices that GNR are having are really good choices these two bands are some of the most popular bands today and will attract a slighty different audience at GNR gigs!

Wondering where they got that info... ::)

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=27227.msg503993#msg503993

a7x is awsome, and gnr is like their idols and i bet axl respects that, i mean, axl wouldnt let any shit bands on his tour

Mix Master Mike or CYK ring any bells for ya?

 ::)

first off cky is a very good band, second off, i cant believe some of you people saying a7x is not good. man wake up, it's not 1991 anymore. what do  you want skid row??  for some of you that has never seen a7x, your gonna get a concert, not a show. & a7x is a very smart choice cause they can sell there shows out. ( not saying guns cant, but a7x will really help ticket sales) come on people dont be afraid of new bands!!!!!

GNR should have Wolfmother open for them

www.wolfmother.com (http://www.wolfmother.com)
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Actually, I added the opening acts mention to the news section on the main page.....  :hihi:




/jarmo

Avenged Sevenfold is good but Bullet for my Valentine?
There'll be alot more emo kids at GN'R gigs. :no:

well said. i always wonder what the people that slag on avenged sevenfold listen to. i always assume they probably don't listen to any bands that came out after 1992.

Yeah I know, I wonder where you got as well...lol

Well, considering it mentions your name I guess I read the thread.  ;D




/jarmo

I think Avenged Sevenfold is a great choice.  Bullet for my Valentine....ugh.

i think Bullet for My Valentine is just OK. I'm just glad to see them choosing decent (in avenged sevenfold's case, really good) newer bands rather than going the NIN route and picking someone like Foo Fighters or going the 80's rock route and picking someone like Skid Row or whoever. i think that they are smart to bring along bands that have younger fans that would appreciate what GNR is doing. very smart move.

these bands are not rock n roll, emo sucks

and about the GNR song titles as Headlines on the Avenged 7 magazine covers
this is not some magazines choice only
it would quite a coincidence if every magazine chose to do this at the same time

it is planned PR

you have no idea what "emo" is if you think Avenged Sevenfold is "emo". don't post about things that you are obviously ingnorant about.

go find an Avenged 7 board, or maybe some 'new' rock message board,
and if any of these new bands are any good, they why is rock as whole dying in the market place, radio stations going out of buissiness etc., i'll tell ya why, the record labels have dropped the ball, signed the worst bands and no one cares about them

for the most part i agree with you. however to lump avenged sevenfold in with that is ridiculous. they sound nothing like all the other radio emo screamo kiddie bullshit going on these days. they sound nothing like hawthorne heights, fallout boy etc. at all. not even similar. do your homework and don't judge a band just cause they share the same fanbase as some crappy bands do. remember at one time GNR and Poison shared some fans as well.

   i don't know if this has been posted before but, this came as a rumour a little while back and everyone thought it was just another rumour.  everybit of lies has a little truth to it.  i for one am happy as hell and hope they come to the states too.  gnr is my fav band and a7x is my fav new band.  you all should check out some of thier stuff.  and the band logo is VERY similar to axl=a7x.  they are worth checkin out.

this better be the damn year!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah same here........I just hate the whole "rock" scene as it is today.  Nothing I've heard from Avenged Sevenfold has impressed me. 

they suck so bad man. I just hope and pray that when guns play north america they pick a better opening band then them, hell ill take mmm and cky over that lame band any day.

i heard that they suck, not heard any of their stuff as far as i know though

i say The living end should tour with gnr :)

I've said this before and I'll say this again: A7X is a great band!!

Their 'Waking the Fallen' is amazing!! They also have a lot of energy on stage!!

Another plus: they like GN'R & Axl!!

I'm thinking of going to Paris just to see this happening ?: ok:

Even though I've voiced my dislike for the band, I'll give Axl credit for choosing them as an opening act....Avenged Sevenfold has really garnered a lot of Gnr-esque comparisons (in magazines and even on Bam Margera's radio show he's constantly comparing them)....They appear to be pretty popular among the younger folks so Axl has chosen wisely.  A way to rope in the young kids who might not be hip onto the GNR scene (did i just say hip, am I fucking 80?). 

Are they a better opener than CKY and Mix Master Mike? Yes.

A7X are amazing live one of the few new bands able to produce interesting guitar work.

They should just pick up Silvertide.  That'd please the world.

And that's all that matters. A lot of good bands have mediocre or even down right shitty openers, something I've personally learned to live with by now.

Just makes the main attraction even more desirable.  :hihi:

i think A7x are boring as a fuck, but they do like Axl so they're not just another crappy band that got to tour with GN'R.
music aside, they seem quite cool actually, always speaking highly of Gn'R.
i just think their music sucks. at least the vocals aren't doing anything for me...

at least the last few people posting on this thread that don't like the band haven't really given reasons as to why they think they suck (other than the non descript mention of the vocals). that beats people saying they are "emo" i guess...

Avenged Seven Fold aint that popular. Barely anyone has heard of them but i think they rock. Bullet For My Valentine are crap tho

Uhm yeah but their last album was #30 on Billboard........and their single "Bat Country" peaked at #2 on the Mainstream rock charts........so I'm quite sure many, many people have heard of them.

GUNS N ROSES opening bands should be HANOI ROCKS & BACKYARD BABIES : ok:

who do these bands sound like?... i don't really know either of them... i wish they went with buckcherry or silvertide

http://www.purevolume.com/avengedsevenfold

There's three songs there to preview.  Those are off their 2nd album.

AVENGED SEVENFOLD fucking go off in my books!, real rockNroll from a new generation! they look the part too! the guitar players are really good!. great choice by axl if it's true.

wow but those songs suck big time!, maybe it's just this new album that rocks.

http://www.purevolume.com/avengedsevenfoldca

These are some previews from their latest.  The screamo elements are almost all gone on this.  Bat Country is the big hit.

Those songs have a heavy screamo influence.  I still think Chapter 4 is one of their better songs though.

Their newest album pretty much has no screamo singing and is more your traditional sounding metal.

Silvertide should be the perfect opening act for nugnr.. i say let the kids listen to some hard rock then introduce this new generation rock material .. ?:peace:

Silvertide
Avenged
GnR

That'd be a hell of a show there.

thank god!, the screamo songs suck! some of the worst shit i've ever heard!, it's a good way to reack good music! and show no talent in the process.

That's why they basically revamped their sound.  They wanted to hit a much wider audience.  So they got some of their hardcore fans crying "sellout" but hey, they wouldn't be opening for Uncle Axl if they hadn't changed.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1524314/20060214/avenged_sevenfold.jhtml?headlines=true

gp there to watch 2 of there video clips ! it's good stuff.

I saw that.  Pretty solid performances for live tv.

Beautiful Creatures would be a cool opening act.

AX7 - the more I find out about these dudes the less impressed I am.  I was in barnes and nobles today and they were on the cover of Revolver magazine.  Like I said in another post, these guys just sound/look like they are trying SO hard.  The entire article was about how much drugs they are doing and how they like to shoot guns and how much trouble they got in when they were younger.  Zzzzzz.   If you have to tell other people that you're a bad ass, then you're not bad ass.  These guys go looking for trouble it sounded like....with Axl, the trouble just seemed to come to him, he seemed relunctant or unaware of the repurcussions - and then wouldn't apologize for them b/c he felt he was wronged.  Some people see this as him being a prick and an asshole, to others its pretty bad ass.  AX7 seem like the first choice :)

And if Bat Country is their big song, I'm not that impressed.  Any other song titles you guys suggest to listen to, I do want to give these guys a shot as enough people do seem to say they are good, but from the 4-5 songs I've heard, they are just another wanna be hard rock/bad ass band

Pick up their newest album and find out for yourself.  Songs like Beast and the Harlot, Seize the Day, Trashed and Scattered, and Bat Country are good modern rock songs played with some talent.


About all the "trying" thing...I do agree.  But all that shit is 2nd to the music.  I don't get too worked up over that.

i agree with most of that, i really like the new music tho, but yeah if you tell people your a bad ass your not! your just a tosser!
axl didn't try. axl was just axl!.

from what I have been told by fans, the singer has lost his voice, he is trying to prolong his carreer by not screaming so much, and what is with Mariylin Manson/Nikki Sixx look all the sudden??

Axl isn't going to pick a band like Beautiful Creatures.  I think he wants to go with bands that are young and up and coming.

Its just like when people were complaining when the Crue cancelled opening for Guns.  Well thats a good thing, sorry, but Axl doesn't want to be associated with that scene anymore.  The guy has tried too hard to accomplish that to start playing with bands like the crue.  I respect the crue's music, but you know what I mean, Axl just wants to carve out something new here.

Well, he kills two birds with one stone then.  He saves his voice and hits a whole new audience.

a bigger better audience!, not just a bunch of drop kicks who wouldn't know good music if it smacked them in the face!.

i see for a future for these guys if they keep going down this path.

Good point - its age discrimination b/c I think BCs sound is pretty good.  As others have said, the other BC (buckcherry) would be a cool choice too (plus josh todd hates VR haha).

The article i read mentioned M. Shadows (god i feel like such a poon for even typing that, i mean, do they want to be taken seriously???) had voice problems so he decided to sing instead of scream, plus they wanted to expand their audience as the metalcore scene had been tapped out by them. 

I agree with that other guy too, they're look is totally unoriginal...i'll say it again, they are just trying WAY too hard.

If this was 1999-2000 I would be certain that buckcherry would be opening for GnR.

i like the look, that guitar player who's the nikki sixx look alike looks cool as hell!, the lyrics and singing still needs some work i think!.

They look more Good Charlotte to me ;) haha

The talent is there for these guys.. They have a hell of a guitarist and a hell of a drummer. They are not as bad as you people make them out to be..

I will def give you that, they seem to be much more talented then 90% of the bands out there in terms of actually playing their instruments.  I'm not saying they are dreadful, but I dont' see what all the fuss is about.  It seems every few weeks the rock mags and MTV or whoever are trying to label someone the next GNR or the next great rock band.  I don't see AX7 as filling those shoes.

What made guns so good and so successful is that they were real, 100% authentic - even their songs (afd at least) are about real life experiences.  I'm not quite sure what AX7 songs are about, I don't speak SCREAMING. ;)

Well from what I heard from their new CD its all singing. They lyrics aren't the worse thing out there either. They took the time to pen a song about Dimebag Darrell so that earns respect from me. I think you people are too concerned with a bands look or their stage names.. No matter what someone will label a band something.. that doesnt mean you need to agree and just join the rest of the people attackig a band. Hell, I am not even a real fan of these guys.. But I know talent when I see it and these kids have it..

Not in my case....to me the music ALWAYS come first - but how you represent it is how I think you're going to be perceived -  I mean look how Metallica took a beating just for cutting their hair!?!?!?!?  Like I've said before, if you are going to point to Priest, maiden, GNR as your idols/inspiration - then don't mock that time/genre in your videos (sum 41, the darkness) or with a costume like look or silly stage names (unless thats something thats part of the metalcore/screaming scene - I don't know too much about it to be honest).

But I am downloa...ur, i mean listening to a friends CD right now and I have to say, the songs are growing on me - its a bit fast paced for me, but it is pretty sweet to hear actual guitar playing and true metal growls/screams.  Once i finish listening to this cd maybe I'll have changed my tune and I'll feel like a bigger douche then usual   : ok:

If you want to get turned on to Avenged you HAVE to listen to the new CD.  So far in their career, it is without a doubt the album that defines them.

I am listening to it now and I have to admit its pretty kick ass.....most of my exposure to them was the screaming songs from their past albums.  Beast and Harlot is a really cool song.  I like how it sounds nothing like the shit rock out there now.  Still, I'm sorry, image kinda matters when you're trying to sell something - I can still enjoy the music, but it'd be cooler if they took themselves a LITTLE more seriously.  Still, I am going to feel like a monster dip shit if I wind up liking this band hahaha    :hihi:

I don't hear the Axl comparison at all though - sounds a lot like sevendust (vocally) to me.

I read about them over last summer in the NY post. THe only thing that peaked my intersest was the article mentioneed , they were GNR fans. So based on that I decided to give them a shot, mind you Im 36, its hard for me to like new shit.lol.

But , I dunno, they hit me hard, reminded me of the days when I was 17 and hearing GNR for the forst time. Granted I know now after listening to older stuff, its definitly on the emo lines. BUT City of Evil isnt that. And after all these yrs, for me , this is one band I actually like.

I made a prediction awhile ago that they would open for GNR, people called me names. WEll actually I was right.lol

I'm 30 in a month, and we sound similar in terms of liking the new stuff out there.  But you can offically color me an asshole....I am DIGGING this cd.  Is it too late to delete all my negative posts hahaha.  I do stand by my comments about their STUPID stage names though ;)  But who cares, this is good music.  Listening to Seize the Day now...GREAT track. 

Seize the Day reminded me a lot of Don't Cry.  The way they have 2 vocals going to create a nice little melody.

I will def be putting this on my ipod tonight....I'm sure my co-workers are going to LOVE listening to this tomorrow hahaha. 

It's a shame none of their stuff is on itunes, and none of the downloads on kazaa etc. seem to work.. must be the copyright protection. I'm not willing to buy a whole album to try it out.. I'll buy or download a song or two to give them a go.

i'm glad to see people are coming around and starting to like Avenged. I am always very very hesitant to like new music on the radio. most of what i listen to would never be played on the radio. I liked Bat Country the second time i heard it and got the album. when i got the album, i pretty much got into one song at a time until i liked almost all of it. then when i started listening to the whole thing it really really grew on me and i'm glad that i took the time to get into it. its pretty complex stuff musically, but the reward is there if you listen to it a few times before making a judgement. if i were to make a critique i would say the one filler song is "Blinded in Chains" and i really can't stand the acoustic part of "Sidewinder". I like acoustic stuff generally but when the drums come in on that it sounds real dave matthews-esqe or something. that said, awesome album great payoff if you take the time to get into it, but not an album that will necessarily immediately strike you as "awesome".

Try limewire...i hear they are good.

Where in Oz are you from btw???  I travelled the east coast for two months last year.....loved Australia!

What do you guys think? I haven't heard crap all from Avenged Sevenfold or Bullet for my Valentine, but from what I've seen of their reputation and status, they're a hell of a lot better than Mix Master Mike or CKY. What do you guys think, compared to 2002, will these bands help GNR (as opposed to MMM, who, while I like Beasties, was completely wrong for the crowd)?

I personally think Weezer was the best opener GNR has had in recent years...

I dont care for Avenged Sevenfold much, though I noticed the GNR influence immediately, particularly in the singer.  But they are certainly a better opener than Mix Master Mike, and CKY as well.  I think theyre a band GNR fans can dig.  Dont know anything about the other band.

I think Silvertide would make a terrific opener.  Same with The Distillers and possibly Interpol.

avenge would be steps above cky imo.. Mixmaster wasn't terrible but not my thing.. I don't evemn care about an opening act really.. New guns with an album should be able to carry a arena tour alone

Of those, I only know the Distillers... who I do think would be an interesting choice.
What about the reconstituted AiC? While I don't really like the idea of AiC with no Layne, it might draw some interest...

mixmaster was kool during 2002 shows... but cky imo was too shitty
anyway the most important is gn'r isn't it?? hehe  :P

It seems like we probably will only see smaller bands who are just getting started opening for GNR.. I doubt they want to go with co headliners to possibly steal the spotlight from them. So I'm guessing that NIN / Guns tour that people are theorizing about won't happen.

Silvertide!!!! or Buckcherry!!!! : ok:

Backyard Babies!!!

Any of these along with GNR would make me happy. All 3 rock!!!!! :beer:
Roll on the 9th of June!! :drool: Release the cd and lets all see GNR back on top again. : ok:

I listened to 'bullet for my valentine' today, and they sounded like a really good band to hear live...

I really doubt Axl and Hanoi are in the best of terms at the moment... but don't know for sure of course.

backyard babies would rock yeah... ?:P but actually i don't give a fuck... we won't be much warmed up since we have to wait 2 hours 'till gnr enters the stage anyway

Man, Bryan Adams could open for GNR and I'd still go...

I would've said Crashd?et if it hadn't been that the singer is dead since earlier this year  :'(

I have seen Bryan Adams before, he is much better than A7 will ever be :rofl:

Who gets to decide the opening act/acts???. Is it the promoters or the headlining act.??? ???

Wow, A7x must suck... * :hihi:

*note: I realize that this may cause a fuss, so I'm sorry, but they must if they're worse than Bryan Adams, trust me!  ;)

I think at least in VR's case the promoter had sent VR a few cds from different bands to choose from.

Boston, why such a hate for a band? What have they done to you? Can you not accpet the fact that they are highly talented musicians? You sound pathetic and almost obsessed with a band you hate for what I see as no good reason.. Just because they don't dress they way you want or cause they act like "wanna bes" when they credit GnR and are clearly not trying to be something they are not..

I bet it's because his favourite band is probably Boston!  :rofl: good ol' AOR, eh Bos'??  just kiddin!  :peace:

I don't hate them, I just think that they should not even be put in the same sentence as a band like. (notice the period)Guns N Roses, I also think they are manipulating the whole CHIN DEM hype for their own means, kind of like NIN is doing, their music is nothing like this, I have seen 3 differnet magazine covers with them on it quoting Guns N Roses songs as the headline.......... they are dressing all 80's now ( may be just the emo trend) make up, two of em wearing NIKKI SIXX stripes on their eyes, if you are going to do this cool, if your music goes against everything this stood for, not very cool, .................SIDE NOTE - I saw My Chem. Romance looking pretty much exactly as A7 last year putting down girls for flashing boobs at a rock concert, that is so un rock n roll, don't look the part, if your not, just to sell records

That's their style. They are into the throw back theme. They do not need to use GnR to their advantage cause well they are already heading to the top. The lead singer looks up to Axl and if he wasn't in a band he'd prob be just like 90 percent of this board and be an Axl crazy poster on one of these GnR message boards.

And of course they do not belong in the same sentence as GnR but thats all the media, not the band. I enjoy some of their songs.. They have classic riffs and a great drum beat to most of their songs.. The singer isnt half bad once you get use to his voice.. It kinda grows on you. No matter what anyone here thinks.. They are pretty much the best band for GnR right now.. They are gaining more fans each day and they are big Guns fans. They could introduce a lot of younger America to Axl Rose.

I am old school

I think GNR should support the kind of music that made them famous in the first place
ROCK N FUCKIN ROLL

it needs help right now, and Guns N Roses should use their power to do this, it don't matter who opens for them, the tickets will sell, they don't need help in this area ( no one went to VR to see hoobastank, most came late to avoid them).

By this theory why not help out some newer rock n roll bands BACKYARD BAIES ( they did make the best rock n roll record since 'appetite' - TOTAL 13), and some old school heroes of theirs HANOI ROCKS, get them to america finally, they want to do it, just can't do it on their own !!!

The problem is the tickets aren't easily sold. The 02 tour wasn't a blockbuster return..The way I see it is.. Its a new GNR so it will need new fans.. Getting a band like A7x or another band with a younger fan base will only help GnR and help sell those tickets that were not sold in 02.

The only person I talked to about tickets was someone on my board, not sure what country, but tickets sold in 15 minutes, they are not gonna have trouble this time around, most people want rock n roll back, the product is just not their at a major label level yet, it will happen soon enough, till then Guns have the world at their feet pretty much, ,,,,,,,, so , 15 minutes !!!, and why do they need A7?

Well in America the 02 tour wasn't that well recieved. I'd rather see a harder band with Guns too.. Hell I'd give anything for a GnR/BLS tour with Brand New Sin opening.. But I think A7X will tour with GnR.. I dont know.. its a guy feeling maybe. I listed the positives in my other posts.. I just want to see Guns and Axl get the respect they deserve. The audience they deserve.. The more people.. the more conversions to Guns fan.

Don't know too much about them, but the guitar player should stay away from solos:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9en-HxX0IMU&search=zacky%20vengeance%20solo


I stumbled upon this clip while browsing Harmony Central & let me tell you, they crucified the poor guy. I actually felt sorry for him.

I put down AX7 in several posts, but i've been playing City of Evil NON STOP today....some of the tracks are REALLY good.  Glad they stopped screaming.  If they love GNR so much though they should take a page out of their book....drop the make up (or in guns case, the glam) and stupid stage names and just be yourselves.  Minor complaint though, the music does all the talking.  I wouldnt mind seeing them open up for Guns. 

Never been to a show though, I could see A LOT of moshing and fighting though - the younger fans might not mix so well with the older GNR fans....could get ugly.

I don't mind the quality of these acts, like someone said, its better than 90% of the industry so I'm ok with it.


I think it's fair to say though, from this board, that the majority want Silvertide or Buckcherry.  Not many can question the quality of these two bands.  Silvertide live is an absolutely crazy rock n' roll show; even upstaged VR for me personally and I had never even heard of them before. 

A7X and Bullet For My Valentine is MUCH better than CKY and Mixmaster Mike!!

I saw Silvertide open for VR at Vr's first show of the tour (the pageant in St.Louis). They would have been better had the lead singer not been drunk off his ass- he even fell a couple of times.

I'd like to see either GnR with Silvertide and Buckcherry or GnR with Backyard Babies and Buckcherry.

I think when/if GnR tours Australia, they should have Wolfmother open those shows.  You guys ever heard Wolfmother? Imagine the beatles, led zeppelin, and a touch of sabbath all mixed together. their cd doesn't come out in the usa til may 2nd. it sounds like it should've come out in 1976 instead of 2006.

really like A7X but bullet isnt a great choice (at least for me)

Hey, sounds like they'll fit in with Axl's Queen thing.

I think the show is gonna rock, wish i could be there to see it. BUt I know when GNR played MSG 2002, I was in the bar till GNR came out. Had no interest in MMM, nor CKY, WHEN GNR come to the states, and if they do take along A7X, I will definitly be into it, and want to see them.


As far as crazyness.let me tell you how crazy it was when I saw GNR ast the felt forum , the ritz, etc, back in the day. I may not want to particpate in the moshing.lol, but I sure would love to see it again. Oh hell may e I will join in, get in the ring so to speak.lol.  : ok: :peace:

You should have gone to Rosas Pizza in penn station.....you get HUGE buds for like a dollar - cheapest beer in the city!  We did the same thing, just drank till we guestimated what time Guns would go on.  I met this guy who was so confident Axl was gonna go on late, he got to the show an hour into GNR's set hahahaha  poor dude.

HAHA. I was in the bar in the garden, handing out promo stuff from the street team thing. I was shocked that they went on a lil after 9.lol, some dudes came in and were like fuck I didnt think he would go on before 10.lol

Its amazing how good at playing fast and doing such great sweep picking and play that shitty of finger tapping.

Atleast Avenged will get the young crowd out.

I wouldn't mind seeing this open up before Axl goes on stage: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEiCuQoWlZ4&search=avenged

^^^^^^

that video is awesome. thanks!

i agree with you on silvertide. i've seen them live at least 25 times, and they put on an awesome show every time.

they would be a great act to have open for GnR. but i wonder if the fact that they opened for VR hurts their chances??

BFMV is awful. they're currently opening up for rob zombie. i'm going to the show in a couple of weeks, but there is no chance i'll go in to see them.