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I just want to know what people want out of VR. alot of people here hate VR cause its a one sided thing. ither your on axls side or VR's side. but to be honest contraband was a fucking great album. they realy reqruited scott and a few months later theres a album. not the best aproach to take with a new album. but contraband is a great rock album. ( could have been better tho  :hihi: )  in the next album, well since they have time now i think that we will all see the band we all want. a classic GNR sound with a brand new twist. but everything everyone wants. and with scotts amazing lyrics and his out of this world voice the next album should IMO be the foundation of this band. the first album was wiped to gether realy fast. but it was no where close to as good as it could have been. this album will kind of have that amazing ness to it. like AFD or illusions.

What do you all think will come of the new album and what do you want out of VR?

no need to hope for a better album.. its gonna be a kick ass one. that i can assure..

Oh man... I have been getting really excited for their next album.  I just want it to rock out with songs like "Sucker Train Blues" and "Dirty Little Thing".   I think with Contraband the guys were trying to find themselves still.  The songs were kinda all over the place in their styles.. I think their most original sound would be songs like "Superhuman" , "Slither" and "Come On Come In" and I think they should continue in that direction also.. They shouldn't try and bury their past either.. Slash is awesome at what he does and he should be able to tear it up a little more and it was obvious alot of fans were disappointed that there wasn't more of Slash letting loose on Contraband.. There is actually more than you think, but alot of it is just mixed waay down and you cant hear his cool fills and shit.  It would also be cool if they let loose and got somewhat psychadelic.  Also, I don't want to hear anything that sounds remotely close to an 80's power ballad like "Fall To Pieces"!!!

Anything that'll make the blowhards in the GN'R section shut up...  ;)

On a more serious note, a real nice hard rockin album, hopefully with Slash's trademark LP riffs ( and without any Strat experimentations on his part). Songs with just rhythm, lead, drums, bass and vocals and minimal effects.


Yup, I'm old fashioned.  :no:

Same here... I'd like see more classic rock like Sucker Train Blues, Dirty Little Thing and not modern shit like Superhuman. I wanna hear Slash playing bluesy riffs and I think he should stop trying to not sound like himself. Slither was ok but I don't like the Drop-D tunes. And Come On, Come In was just garbage... a safe sounding Slither rip-off with weak riffs imo.

I loved contraband I just want some longer solos.. As long as it's a solid rock album with a ballad here n there I will be satisfied

One of the guitars in Dirty Little Thing is in Drop D..... I really do not see the problem with Drop D songs.. Bands have been using that shit forever. Even classic rock groups..  My band is doing a Queen song and that is in Drop D....

Those are the styles I want them to explore further too. : ok:

No doubt from what the guys have said, this should be a stronger effort than their already solid debut with Contraband.

i really liked contraband so what the more "danceable" is we?ll see.. i hope its raw rock n roll like contraband!  : ok:

I'm not anti Drop-D, but on most songs I don't like the heavy sound of it, the riff in Superhuman sounds a little to much nu-metal to me..  And I don't think Dirty Little Thing is in Drop-D. Doesn't sound like it and doesn't look like it judging from the Leno video.

I am pretty sure Slash is in standard and Dave is in Drop D...? I could be wrong...

Its gonna be a real rock album...

More Funk. Thats the only good thing that can come out of having Pharrell help out.

More experimental, not in a crazy way but maybe some strings/orchestration on the slower songs and longer solos from Slash as someone else said.

1. Longer solos
2. Some epics
3. More ary type songs with some creative muscle.
4. A cover of "Madagascar"  :hihi:

guess there is no chance for you RN :D


I hope whoever mixes the album makes scott's voice clearer... If you listen to Core or Purple from stp his voice is so damn strong n clear... The instruments in vr seem to drown him out.. That needs to be worked on imo

That is a great point. Before CB came out, I was expecting something like Core, and maybe thats one of the reasons I was really disappointed in the album. Maybe they should remix/remaster Contraband, and release it again. :hihi:

1. Agree
2.  :no:
3. We had Loving the alien and the song had the right feel. I'd like to hear more stuff like that, the new album could be more song or riff than energy-oriented.
4. VR has/had better songs.  :-X

mikk I would take many songs of contraband over maddy.. maddy is a safe cool song, other then that it does nothing for me..  How many keyboard paino based songs are new gnr going to have, or how many songs is axl going to be talking about ancient ex romances or himself in some other way..

I think Madagascar, TWAT, The Blues are cool songs for Axl. Let him do what he wants, he was always more of an epic/soft rock fan than a rock 'n' roll fan. Those songs are good ones, but nothing earth-shattering. No problem. He's singing about his ex-wifes and girlfriends - good for him. I don't really care about the lyrics - some people act like Axl's lyrics would be like the Bible. Good for them. I don't think that some lyrics would change my life, so don't expect them to be 'meaningful' and 'deep'. If I feel it is, then I'm happy. Geez, it's not the secong coming of Jesus. 

VR should do what they want to do - rock the world!

For me lyrics are minimal in why I like a song, I don't need to be swooned off my feet with super memorable lyrics.. I am a dude going out to have a great time enjoying hard rock..  Now don't think I don't love singing along to gnr tunes from yesterday but that doesn't mean I care about deep lyrics..  It's like the first time I heard Smells like Teen Spirit I had no fucking clue what was being said but I enjoyed the sound and the instruments.. It depends on what you like, but for me lyrics are last, give me a hard pounding drum and good guitar work and flowing music and I am happy.

My hope for the next VR record is that they put out better singles.
Songs like STB and YGNR should have been put out instead of Dirty Lil Mind (great song too).
I think they would have made a greater impact with those songs out, but whatever the fuck, Contraband made a great impact on me, only reaffirming that the music was always a part of what brought us all to Here today Coming Back Tomorrow.

MNR

Better than Contraband, don't get me wrog, love the album but every band has to improve!

dirty little thing, sorry  if you were being sarcastic..

I'd love another slither with a longer solo

That's exacltly why I absolutely love most of the slither live versions some of them have long kick ass slash solo's in it ;D

As far as the new Vr album, I hope it will be a bit more "slash", contraband is really missing those slash signature licks and solo's :-\

yeah the extended slither is awesome

I always think about longer slash type solos.. I often thinl about is this anband that doesn't want to overshadow the others.. GNR, snakepit 1-2 had tons of long solos, killer riffs so we know it can be done , but gnr was a guitar rock band and slash's snakepit is slash's gig, this is more of a group effort in which longer solos might not be what they wanted..

I would not say that "Contraband" was that great of an album. Well worth the $9.99 paid when it was released, but not that original. It sounded so much like STP, which is great if you liked them, but seriously... I'm hoping for this new experimental album...

I'm hoping for more memorable riffs and solos.  I felt on CB that there wasn't enough "quality" solos.  Don't get me wrong, some we're ok, but I know Slash could have done better. 

I think if the band weathers this current storm it will make them stronger and want to do better simply because CD is getting attention and I am sure they have read how people were let down by the album.. I hope it fuels them and makes them stronger.

I talked to Sorum on Myspace.  Its pretty cool how you can talk to guys in your favorite bands.

Check out his page.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=55783166

He answered my message.

I agree but in a different way.. Even though FTP was a hit I think that is what ruined it... Slither was a big hit and a kick ass first single... That song is responsible for alot of VR's initial record sales... Then they come out with Fall To pieces.... It was a big hit but it is also a very safe and very 80's sounding power ballad that was pushed down everyones throats and played contstantly.. It made VR look like a bunch of pussies.. People grew sick of it fst and I think it made alot of people think they were cheesy. It was way to early for that crap... I personally think that "Dirty Little Thing"was a great choice. I know ALOT of people that love that song.  They should have released it second and it would have done better.. I actually still hear it on teh radio where I am from quite a bit anyway.... VR are a kick ass rock band and they really dont need to be releasing gay songs like FTP..

I wouldn't mind an instrumental song on the album, just to hear them jam out.

Yeah, just look at the early live versions of both Slither and You Got No Right as prime examples of that. The album versions ended up with a lot less Slash solos on them.
The middle solo part of Slither live at the El Rey reminded me of parts of Coma, I was disappointed that they cut it much shorter on the album.

Im excited about the prospect of a concept album, which Im guessing will be kept rather loose.  Im intrigued by the "libertad" theme and hope it will inspire Weiland to do some interesting things.

I would personally like to see a diverse record; they made their no-nonsense rock record, now throw some pianos in, make the title track Spanish-sounding, do a country-flavored song, make an epic.  I doubt well see that, but itd be nice if we did.  I also wouldnt mind Slash returning to the classic Slash vibe for at least a song or two.  Id like to see how they work with a different producer.

I bet they change the name of the album. Wasn't "Libertad" the title of Scott's would-be concept album? At anyrate, I'm sure it will kick ass.

VR'S Libertad is gonna kick ass, I wonder if the song "Come on Come in" will be in the album...   cause its a kick ass song but not that good honestly ... imho...

I hope not... I like the song I just don't need a song I already have wehn they are making a new album..

your last sentence is kind of funny, kick ass but not that good :hihi:

hehe, well its a good song, but I think VR need to grow up as a band... something more mature...? :peace: 
I would like something like a Civil War, Coma, 14 years, dust n bones...  :yes:

I'm hoping the new album will be awesome.  I loved Contraband, but felt that it was just something that was rushed together, without a whole lot of effort.  This one seems to have been in the works for a while, and I love the idea of a concept album.  I hate how everyone is misinterpreting the "dance" statements.  Yes, the album will have songs that we can move to, but it's not going to be like Sandstorm or anything.  I think it'll be good "funky groove" music, kinda like mixing some Ain't Life Grand?-era Snakepit, with classic Primal Scream, and the Black Crowes.  Hell, we were all able to get moving to AFD, all ya gotta do is get Axl's snake dance down pat!  I can't wait for it, it's going to be huge.  My bigger fear is that Axl may be waiting to announce anything about a new GNR album until he knows the release date for VR's new album, then try and overshadow it, causing VR's album to have lower sales.

I think you have more chance of dust n bones then the others

 I wish Izzy would contribute something to the new album, but I know that is just wishful thinking.

Don't we all James.  Go more in the direction of YGNR for me.  Creativity for the band should be at its fullest by now.

Is their 2nd album coming out this year? Any rumoured date?

A fall release has been rumored.

If they hit the studio in April and are done by, say, September, my guess is a November release.

i hope that this time VR manage to record a cool album. izzy contributions would be really cool.....

i expect something better than contraband this time, which was a decent rock album, but nothing great.

They had songs they wrote with Izzy, but when Weiland heard them he didn't want to have anything to do with them. Too GNR or something.

So that's why you got a Weiland record.

Don't expect Izzy around at all this time.

if izzy was writing songs while not being in vr all you'd hear is they need him to sound good.. :hihi:

that it's released in 2006 :peace:

Dude,  that is the best one yet!!!!!!! And the first single by summer  : ok:

that's the second best ;D