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i have a very close friend on mine for years that works for elektra records.he said that axl is in new york mastering the record he said mixing is done just finishing the master.he said also that axl has been playing the final masters around n.y.c.i believe him because why would axl be spending so much time in new york.think about it.

What does elektra records have to do with Chinese Democracy? No offense, just don't know how he could come across this information.

Axl could spend time in NY because of Sanctuary's office.

But if hes mastering, it wouldn't take long to finish it. Seems like really good news if its true.

I dont think Elektra knows what GNR is doing. We heard that years ago.



Until Axl, or someone closely affiliated with GNR mentions something like what you've described, then I'm not believing it.

most bands do final mixing and mastering in new york.my friend has lots of connections to diffrent record companys.also there is 2 main studios in new york that mastering is done.he knows and goes to both of them.

isn't it being mastered at sterling sounds?

and yes mr marlino is in new york and mr sterling to of the biggest men in mastering in new york.

I don't think anyone said they did.

@#$%Funker

I read a while back Axl does most of his business on the phone  ??? Would he visit NYC multiple times just to visit with management??? It would be logical he is either getting seen or doing some work on the music, or both  :smoking:

Well, there are just some things in business that you can't do even by phone.

Instead of being a smart ass every time you reply to one my posts, read his again. He has a friend that works for Elektra records that knows what's going on with CD.

for those of us who dont know music what would mastering I dont know 3cd 13 songs apiece involve?


thanks
 :yes:

good news

the source is Elektra and not Cleopatra.

Good news. Seems that Axl is combining business with pleasure. I know he likes NYC, he once said it was one of the cities that people don't bother him too much and he can go out there. Seems as if he's really enjoying his time there.

Maybe Axl hasn't gone out in the last 13 years and just wants to have some fun?



Dude, always check Wikipedia

The process of Audio Mastering varies depending on the specific needs of the audio to be processed. Steps of the process typically include:

   1. Load the recorded audio tracks into the DAW.
   2. Correct any problems with the audio, such as volume level, tonal balance, or undesirable artifacts.
   3. Sequence the recorded audio as it will appear on the final product.
   4. Transfer the audio to the final master format.

Examples of possible actions taken during mastering:

   1. Apply noise reduction to eliminate hum and hiss.
   2. Normalize the tracks to set the highest peaks in audio volume to a preset level; the overall audio should never exceed 0 dBFS.
   3. Equalize audio between two tracks to ensure there are no jumps in bass, treble, midrange, volume or pan.
   4. Apply a compressor (for example, 4:1 starting at -6 dB) to compress the peaks but to expand the softer parts.
   5. Apply a dynamics compressor to compress only specific frequencies that generate the audio peaks.
   6. In the case of mastering for broadcast, the bandwidth of the signal has to be reduced. For example for TV broadcast: apply a high-pass filter at 80 Hz with -18 dB/octave to filter out low frequencies and apply a low-pass filter at 12 kHz with -9 dB/octave to filter out high frequencies.

Yes it is.

My thought (I think it's somewhere on this board) was that maybe Axl was working with George to do the remaster on the rumored GHII.  Complete speculation, on my part, of course.

But he could be doing both.  In addition, if they're working on more tour dates, it sure would be more convenient to have him in NYC, near Sanctuary's offices.  Ditto if/when we get a PR on a release date and final tour details.

In addition, the guy is going to Europe in, what....2 months or so?  Hell, maybe the guy gets really bad jet lag and this is part of his way of adjusting to the time zone difference gradually.  :rofl:

He might if there were a LOT of contracts to sign, etc.  Or some negotiating to do and contracts to sign, etc.

It's also easier to do business with Europe in NYC than in LA.  Less of a time zone difference.  (Again, I'm just speculating that it would matter)

If he's still here, maybe it's just because he's going to the RnR Hall of Fame Inductee thing tonight.

With him producing CD and it being his first, he would probably want to know how the master is sounding.

Good thinking.  It's definatley possible.

remember axl has  been in new york since the beginning of febuary.i dont think hes staying in new york just to hang out.

Thanks for the info Jimbo. As a complete ignorant fool when it comes to these technical things, I didn't understand it all, but it sounds as if mastering shouldn't take very long. Am I correct? Unless of course, Axl is not happy with the outcome and decides to take it back to the studio  :hihi:

Well, it certainly gives creditbility to the idea that his silver briefcase holds the masters for the album in it!

no he`s not.....

he recently came back to NYC

I wasn't being a smart ass. The guy seemed to be stating that his friend was privy to this information, not that he necessarily got it from Elektra.

Apologies for coming across that way.

@#$%Funker

Normally I'd say that visiting NY doesn't mean anything but it seems he has been going back a couple of times now.. so quite possibly on business (along with the pleasure - nightclub visits ?:smoking: ) ?: ok:

Sounds very plausible to me. I dunno if the source is valid, but it's as good a guess as any.

;D

If he's there mastering CD, that'd be awesome!

I'm sure he'll check out the RnR Hall of Fame ceremonies while he's there, as was mentioned

Surely contracts could have been signed at LA offices of Sanctuary?

(http://www.geocities.com/arisen_2005/sanct.JPG)

Must be more than business?

Axl probably could master and mix it in LA but he was also rumoured to say that he was in NYC to get some quotes for Madagascar. If he's in NYC doing that it would make sense to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and get it mixed and mastered whilst he's there. I do think he would be there to listen to CD get mastered, he's spent god knows how long working on this, I can't believe he would risk sending it to be mixed and mastered and not hear it and for CD to come out and then think 'that doesn't sound how I wanted it!' Besides I think the doing lots of work over the phone was for the UYI album. Hope it's true but we've heard the 'it's being mastered' quote too many times.  :no:   

Merck is based in NYC, though, as is his "support".  And I'd have to think HE'D be very hands  on in the negotiations and contract details, etc.

And, if the situation is very "fluid", you want everyone sort of on the same page/in the same time zone/in the same geographic proximity, maybe, just to make sure it's easy to contact everyone and iron out details as quick as possible.

First off, I have no idea why Axl is in NY.
But the following clues lead to a pretty good guess:

1.  New York is the mecca for digital (and analog) mastering.

2.   Any artist concerned (or obsessed) with quality control will sit in and/or be very involved with the mastering process.  Most people think the "sound" of the CD is based entirely on the mix.  This is wrong -- the quality of the mastering controls the final sound quality.  Therefore, top dollar artists go to top dollar mastering facilties, which are primarily in New York.

3.   A metal briefcase would be one way to transport mixes to be mastered.   Maybe one of the safer ways.

4.  Axl has been seen a lot in NY w/ the briefcase.

I wouldn't be shocked if he was kiling time at the RnR Hall of Fame while he conducts business during the day.

Metal suitcase. hmmm.....I hope it is what we think.

Wow, Veritas, good first post! Looking at your name, there must be some truth in your guess  :hihi: Well, let's all keep their fingers crossed, that Axl is in fact getting 'things' done while partying in NYC and we'll see CD soon enough  :beer:

Thanks for the nice words, Godiva.  I've been a lurker for a little while and the leaks have rekindled some interest.
I get annoyed by empty speculation as much as the next person, but, given the facts here, I think it is an educated guess -- rather than rampant speculation -- that Axl's seemingly frequent visits to NY recently are potentially related to mastering of the "album."  At a minimum, they are more likely related to that than getting copyright approval, which is rarely an "in-person" activity (and often done solely through attorneys).

(Oh, and the "veritas" has less to do with truth, sadly, and more to do with school .....)   ;)

God I hated latin oh those so many years ago.  Four years of it.  It's a wonder I didn't run, screaming, from the classroom on a daily basis.

If you're stuck in Latin class....may the Gods grant you some huge karmic boon.  You deserve it!

well everything adds up, you never know but it is definitely possible

hello again.just got of the phone with my friend from elektra records.he told me that he has a very good source inside universal-geffen.but he told me that there very tight lipped about the guns n roses situation.he did tell me that axl is finishing everything up in new york.no more going to L.A.to finish.RECORDING IS DONE PEOPLE.also he told me he has seen final album cover.i asked  him to see if he can get pic of cover would love it.if i get it we will all see it.take care G.N.R 5-06

Honestly, I think us getting the album cover too soon would be a bad idea.  Kinda like I think any more leaks would be a bad idea. *shrug*

;D

Honestly, I think us getting the album cover too soon would be a bad idea. Kinda like I think any more leaks would be a bad idea. *shrug*

;D

I'm all for seeing the album art, if it's real.  I've waited since TSI for this!  It would confirm that this is actually happening and CD will finally see the light of day.  I'll probably pee my pants when I see it!!

IF HE COMES THROUGH I WILL POST COVER.

Hum.. your last post turns the whole rumour less credible to me. :P

How does it make it less credible?

Dammit, I just told you all in the silver case thread:

Axl is in NY to deliver the secret formula for Coke Blak to the production facilities.

Jeesh!

 :rofl:

that's fucking exciting dude,hope you don't make anything up. is there any way you could back it up?

Can you imagine the giant sigh of relief Universal/Geffen execs (and Merk, for that matter) once they have the final master ready for mass production?
I imagine they'll have themselves one serious celebration.

well, if you look up the dude's history, he has done some pretentious postings before, all of which never happened... :-\

to me as well  especially the 5-06 bit....

Like ppbebe said, the 5-06 bit. Also, one thing is know what Axl is doing in NY through some sources, other is to get the final album cover.

Actually, getting an advance of the final cover is not that hard -- I'm not saying the poster above has it (or not).  But there are several advance steps that you have to go through to get the cover.  For instance, licensing/copyright (if protected art or a photograph), then color setting, layout, generating proofs, reviewing proofs/correcting, then final approval, an initial "final proof," and then production of the art to be insert in the CD case (can often occur at different printing facilities.)  So, the bottom line is that the cover art can be in production (and thus easily snipped and transmitted) for quite some time before the mastering is completed.  (That's also why book covers, like the Harry Potter stuff, often leak before the text leaks . . . .)

Therefore, it would not be a big surprise if the artwork got out there fairly quickly IF in fact we are in that final mastering phase . . . .

veritas let just say my man you know what youre talking about.thanks dude.ill remember you.

Ok Sebastian Bach. :hihi:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

??? :'(

The Chinese have never been great Elvis Presley impersonators, although they do provide much entertainment

 :hihi:

hey msteron, any news about the mastering process?

I'll need to phone a Pacific Ocean based, sponge-type sea creature to get the full low-down.

The hands free option has been such a breakthrough for this specific type of creature

leo5150, why is it being mastered @ Electra Records when GnR's label is Geffen....or did I miss something? Electra is a Record Label too...right? :confused:

Mysteron, are you ok?

what the fuck is goin on? :hihi:

Yeah

Just being silly, that's all  :hihi:

Oh, right on then. :beer:

Not much

I had a good night out with friends. This thread tickled me, that's all. People are wierd.

All the GNR happenings this last week have made Mysteron just a itsy bitsy wobbly...... 

;D

You see Axl again you tell him ole Thorazine still needs his lawnmower back.? He borrowed the damn thing back in 95.?

 :hihi:

if you dig deep enough on the sterling site!!!, its there to be seen,

Heavy Metal

ARTIST      TITLE      DATE      COUNTRY 
Whitesnake    The Definitive Collection    02/06    USA
Guns' N Roses    unreleased album    11/05    USA

which means things have been rolling since last november!!!

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=1536




/jarmo

jarmo just to let you know your site is great.best gnr site out there

So whats the ETA on that album cover?

Didn't you at least ask him what was on the cover?


I can't believe you didn't ask him. For me, those words would shoot out of my mouth whether I wanted them to or not. If you say you didn't ask, then.....


What's that smell?

The first words for me would be to ask if he can get a picture of it, but he never said he didn't ask... Unless I missed something.. ???

Good one.

i did ask him for a copy.if he can get a copy i will post.

: ok:

Yeah but Mysteron is saying that the Pacific Ocean based, sponge-type sea creature that loves driving knows the full details of the mastering process in this thread.

Who's that sea creature. :hihi:

SpongeBob is a very hard worker so if he and Patrick are overseeing the mastering process then we are in for a treat.  As long as Patrick is only watching.  He's a clutz.

Artists signed to Elektra could have Santuary management / publishing - just like any other record company out there - I do however all signs point to action rather than stalemate right now