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Title: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 10, 2006, 08:16:10 PM
The more I analyze Axl Rose, the more he has in common with Mike Tyson.  Both guys were brilliant at what they did, and captivated everyone.  Mike Tyson is still a huge pay per view draw, eventhough he sucks.  But we all watch cause we don't know what will happen next.  We hope we may get that glimpse of brilliance he once displayed.  They both came from the streets.  They both had a lot of anger.  The both were masters of their craft.  They are now both jokes of their industry.  Yet, we still love them both.  They both got really rich, and then something changed about them.  They both have polar personalities.  I just can't think of anyone else that has become parodies of themselves like Mike Tyson and Axl Rose have.  Well, I guess Jacko kind of did, but he came up a much different way.  Why is the board lit up over an Axl leak?  Why does Tyson still get a huge pay per view draw?  Cause they were once two of the most explosive, dangerous people on the planet.  Yet now they almost seem harmless.  When Tyson changed his trainer he went to shit.  Some could say when Axl lost Slash, he may be going to shit.  We don't fully know till he releases something.  So far, both have had shitty comebacks.  I hope Axl comes back.  I really do.  I was just amazed how much these two really do have in common when you thing about it.  It is so tragic.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 10, 2006, 08:19:43 PM
axl rose and sylvestor stallone : ok:

axl's "Chinese Demoracy" and Sly's "Rocky 6"....kinda the same :P


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 10, 2006, 08:21:37 PM
axl rose and sylvestor stallone : ok:

axl's "Chinese Demoracy" and Sly's "Rocky 6"....kinda the same :P

Good call mr. infuego!


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: HuskerTornado on March 10, 2006, 08:27:35 PM
Only on the surface do these two have similarities, although there are a few subsurfaces in common as well.

Mike was led astray by Don King after the deaths of Cus D'Amato and Jimmy Jacobs.  He had a wife (Robin Givens) that tried to take everything from him, a *$#$#($ #$@*! named Desiree Washington that accused him of rape (which he did not commit - tons of evidence not allowed into courtroom for unknown reasons), and many many other ridiculous things in the past 17 years. 

I can get into further detail later, when I have more time.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: LordRazZ on March 10, 2006, 08:30:19 PM
I've got a better analogy

Axl=Jesus

Agree? Good. Argue? You're going to hell


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 10, 2006, 08:31:44 PM
Only on the surface do these two have similarities, although there are a few subsurfaces in common as well.

Mike was led astray by Don King after the deaths of Cus D'Amato and Jimmy Jacobs.? He had a wife (Robin Givens) that tried to take everything from him, a *$#$#($ #$@*! named Desiree Washington that accused him of rape (which he did not commit - tons of evidence not allowed into courtroom for unknown reasons), and many many other ridiculous things in the past 17 years.?

I can get into further detail later, when I have more time.

Mr. Husker, I am honored that your first post ever is in response to my thread.  They have more then you think in common.  Neither one of them even know who they are anymore. 


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 10, 2006, 08:33:25 PM
I've got a better analogy

Axl=Jesus

Agree? Good. Argue? You're going to hell

Who is Slash?  Doubting Thomas?   :rofl:

Just kidding. 


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: saint seiya on March 10, 2006, 08:35:55 PM
axl rose and sylvestor stallone : ok:

axl's "Chinese Demoracy" and Sly's "Rocky 6"....kinda the same :P

 o god...


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 10, 2006, 08:38:31 PM
Before Tyson's last fight they said he was in the best shape of his life.  He was knocked out.  Now they tell us Axl's voice is in great shape, lets see how it is live.  I think, like Tyson, it will be underwhelming.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: McDuff on March 10, 2006, 08:40:24 PM
yeah,Axl Rose and Mike Tyson,they even look alike :hihi: jk


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Elrothiel on March 10, 2006, 08:56:22 PM
I've got a better analogy

Axl=Jesus

Agree? Good. Argue? You're going to hell

Who is Slash? Doubting Thomas? :rofl:

Just kidding.

Nah, Slash is more like Judas.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: McDuff on March 10, 2006, 09:04:43 PM
I've got a better analogy

Axl=Jesus

Agree? Good. Argue? You're going to hell

Who is Slash? Doubting Thomas? :rofl:

Just kidding.

Nah, Slash is more like Judas.

why are some of you attacking Slash?It's getting really stupid,it's not even funny :no:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Bono on March 10, 2006, 09:06:15 PM
Axl is more like the Buster Douglas of Music.












 :rofl: I kid, I kid.  :peace:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Continental Drift on March 10, 2006, 09:14:17 PM
This comparison has already been made several times on this board and others... with varying degrees of success. You're right though.... there are SOME similarities. One thing I find different though is that I think Axl is still 100% obsessessed with his craft... the same cannot be said of Tyson for years now... and ultimately, because of that, I believe that Axl will see much greater success when he finally steps out again... Tyson is through.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 10, 2006, 09:18:48 PM
This comparison has already been made several times on this board and others... with varying degrees of success. You're right though.... there are SOME similarities. One thing I find different though is that I think Axl is still 100% obsessessed with his craft... the same cannot be said of Tyson for years now... and ultimately, because of that, I believe that Axl will see much greater success when he finally steps out again... Tyson is through.

I think Axl is obsessed to a degree.  Don't know about 100% since it has taken so long.   But Axl bowing out of the 2002 tour was like Tyson getting knocked out by that last bum.  I hope Axl doesn't bow out again from this tour. 

The old comparison used to be Michael Jackson I thought.  If this has been covered before, I am sorry.  I try not to due that.  I should have check the search key.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 10, 2006, 09:20:15 PM
Shit, you are right.  Do a search and everyone feels that way.  Crazy!


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 10, 2006, 10:07:09 PM
yeah,Axl Rose and Mike Tyson,they even look alike :hihi: jk

At least Tyson never had corn rows.
Come to think of it, maybe Axl thinks he is black.
But to even it out, Axl has no gold teeth in front.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Chief on March 10, 2006, 10:21:29 PM
one thing they DON'T have in common is their management of finances!!!


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: HuskerTornado on March 10, 2006, 10:52:53 PM
Before Tyson's last fight they said he was in the best shape of his life.? He was knocked out.? Now they tell us Axl's voice is in great shape, lets see how it is live.? I think, like Tyson, it will be underwhelming.

I did a few pieces before the Tyson/McBride fight.? I didn't think for a second he was in the best shape of his life.? In his prime, he fought around 215-220.? He weighed in over 230 and probably entered the ring at close to 245, if not a little higher.

Tyson was not knocked out.? Tyson quit on the stool (officially a TKO) after the nearly 7' 300lb Kevin McBride spent the first 5 rounds hugging and leaning on Mike.? Mike was spent and didn't want to continue.? He was not hurt at all, he didn't want it.? The 5'10 (some say 11) Mike Tyson had no business in the ring with a man of McBride's size at his age.? He didn't have the stamina to chop the tree down.

Music and boxing are very different animals.? A 60+ year old Mick Jagger can still sing, but a 60+ year old Muhammad Ali cannot box.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: highend88 on March 11, 2006, 12:30:50 AM
AXL ain't no Mike Tyson.
Tyson's already bankrupt while AXL's still rich.
Tyson's fight suck on the ring now. AXL's voice still amazing all these years.
Tyson's will never be a champ again. Everybody knocks him out easily.
AXL's got a record out soon and I think it will be huge and GNR will rule the world once again.

Tyson's days are over. AXl's... far from it...


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on March 11, 2006, 01:47:27 AM
I've got a better analogy

Axl=Jesus

Agree? Good. Argue? You're going to hell

Who is Slash? Doubting Thomas? :rofl:

Just kidding. !

Nah, Slash is more like Judas.

why are some of you attacking Slash?It's getting really stupid,it's not even funny :no:

After CD hits Slash will be Sodom then! - jessh - some people are so anal!


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: MoombaBiotch on March 11, 2006, 02:09:54 AM
Axl = Synergy.  Mike Tyson = Don Flaminco.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: boston on March 11, 2006, 02:14:17 AM
Mike Tyson like Axl Rose both have the same apeal as a  car accident - You Can't Look Away

this is not a put down - love them both as entertainers, love that kind of entertainment

just the way it is !, and the world needs more of it nowadays

another term for it is "Public Enemy #1", someone always has to play the part, and they are usually my favorite media star


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on March 11, 2006, 02:23:20 AM
This comparison has already been made several times on this board and others... with varying degrees of success. You're right though.... there are SOME similarities. One thing I find different though is that I think Axl is still 100% obsessessed with his craft... the same cannot be said of Tyson for years now... and ultimately, because of that, I believe that Axl will see much greater success when he finally steps out again... Tyson is through.

I think Axl is obsessed to a degree.? Don't know about 100% since it has taken so long.? ?But Axl bowing out of the 2002 tour was like Tyson getting knocked out by that last bum.? I hope Axl doesn't bow out again from this tour.?

The old comparison used to be Michael Jackson I thought.? If this has been covered before, I am sorry.? I try not to due that.? I should have check the search key.

It doesn't seem to me that the end of the 2002 tour was of Axl's choice.  Kind of skews your argument.  Moreover, SmokingGuns, your statements reek of subtle propaganda bullshit.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: boston on March 11, 2006, 02:29:04 AM
Mike Tyson like Axl Rose both have the same apeal as a  car accident - You Can't Look Away

this is not a put down - love them both as entertainers, love that kind of entertainment

just the way it is !, and the world needs more of it nowadays

another term for it is "Public Enemy #1", someone always has to play the part, and they are usually my favorite media star


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on March 11, 2006, 02:50:16 AM
Mike Tyson like Axl Rose both have the same apeal as a? car accident - You Can't Look Away

this is not a put down - love them both as entertainers, love that kind of entertainment

just the way it is !, and the world needs more of it nowadays

another term for it is "Public Enemy #1", someone always has to play the part, and they are usually my favorite media star


How much did Weiland pay you to post this twice?


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: McDuff on March 11, 2006, 02:50:56 AM
I've got a better analogy

Axl=Jesus

Agree? Good. Argue? You're going to hell

Who is Slash? Doubting Thomas? :rofl:

Just kidding. !

Nah, Slash is more like Judas.

why are some of you attacking Slash?It's getting really stupid,it's not even funny :no:

After CD hits Slash will be Sodom then! - jessh - some people are so anal!

I'm just sick of all this bashing,it's fucking retarded and very childish :peace:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: boston on March 11, 2006, 02:53:05 AM
Mike Tyson like Axl Rose both have the same apeal as a  car accident - You Can't Look Away

this is not a put down - love them both as entertainers, love that kind of entertainment

just the way it is !, and the world needs more of it nowadays

another term for it is "Public Enemy #1", someone always has to play the part, and they are usually my favorite media star


How much did Weiland pay you to post this twice?
if you read it, you would notice it say's nothing bad about Axl


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 11, 2006, 03:19:54 AM
Fock, I was wrong in my comparison.  Though they are both whack jobs, they are not that similar. I am way off base.  According to Minn(fock don't feel like spelling)apolis, I am full of prop o gan da.  Fock me.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = Mike Tyson of Music
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 11, 2006, 05:34:28 AM
The more I analyze Axl Rose, the more he has in common with Mike Tyson.? Both guys were brilliant at what they did, and captivated everyone.? Mike Tyson is still a huge pay per view draw, eventhough he sucks.? But we all watch cause we don't know what will happen next.? We hope we may get that glimpse of brilliance he once displayed.? They both came from the streets.? They both had a lot of anger.? The both were masters of their craft.? They are now both jokes of their industry.? Yet, we still love them both.? They both got really rich, and then something changed about them.? They both have polar personalities.? I just can't think of anyone else that has become parodies of themselves like Mike Tyson and Axl Rose have.? Well, I guess Jacko kind of did, but he came up a much different way.? Why is the board lit up over an Axl leak?? Why does Tyson still get a huge pay per view draw?? Cause they were once two of the most explosive, dangerous people on the planet.? Yet now they almost seem harmless.? When Tyson changed his trainer he went to shit.? Some could say when Axl lost Slash, he may be going to shit.? We don't fully know till he releases something.? So far, both have had shitty comebacks.? I hope Axl comes back.? I really do.? I was just amazed how much these two really do have in common when you thing about it.? It is so tragic.
I always use that analogy, as well as with MJ.. They are draws because of their past brillance with a hope that it'll shine through again and you nwant to be the one to see it... On the other hand they are both known for their bizarre behaviour so people also want to wintess the downfall as well...  people see MT, they say I'm tuning in to see what might happen next, bit an ear, maybe this time he will bight a nose off or punch the reff...

You can have a piece of brillance or the worst riot or catastrophe you have ever seen.. Either way you kind of win..