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Gypsy Edited to correct my typos

it already sounds better than velvet revolver  :hihi: classic

Cool, Rollingstone actually had something nice to say about axl.

  This is great press guys.  Very happy to see something positive!!!

Nice.

But.. perhaps too much praise. Whatever

Awesome! ?Rolling Stone would be a good "ally" to have. : ok:

Good Shit!! Nice to have Rolling Stone on our side, and having them say something positive about Axl

Rolling Stone are bound to have Axl on the cover for the Chinese Democracy release. That will be amazing publicity.

This is great stuff too. And accurate.

it already sounds better than velvet revolver.

it's not difficult, anyway  :hihi:

Wow. Nice review : ok:

TWAT is a mess? That song is friggin brilliant.

Nah, it was their opinion. It's what they thought, why would they lie to make it sound like it's not praising it too much?

awesome...

Nice to see a positive review! Spot on with Better.. if the album is on par with that song then it will be bloody excellent! I kinda agree with TWAT that it could be a classic but needs some editing and mixing etc.

Anyway thanks for posting.. good to see!

JUST hope he also lookes like he just got off that bus from INDIANA : ok:

cool

Great review. And it's true, the new tracks are great! :beer:

Don't hold your breath. ?Maybe he'll get a new weave. :-X ?

Fucking aye motherfucker.

RS gave "Contraband" four stars, so here's hoping "Chinese Democracy" does the same. A four star rating from RS could be a big help.

In my opinion, TWAT is a great track for about the first 2:30 - even when Axl launches into his perfect Geoff Tate of Queensryche impression.  However, after that it pretty much falls apart.  The reason mostly being the quality of the mix rather than the actual music, though.  The layers just kind of 'blend' together too much.  I'm sure the album version will be much tighter, probably have at least one more verse, and overall be a very strong track.

-darknemus

Cheers to RS. :beer:

Don't ?sweat the T.W.A.T. line... every review has to incorporate some criticism... otherwise it's just an Axl Rose slobberfest... gives the review some legitimacy. The last line is fvcking classic too...

It's a pity they didn't review CITR. :-\

cool review :beer:

That's funny, I think twat really kicks in after the three minute mark. The guitar work is chilling.

That's what I thought...!

I love the last two minutes of TWAT, regardless of how messy it is.

Hmmm... some people like the start, some people like the end, I for one like ALL of TWAT, I think the song in it's entirety sounds great! :beer:

I think better will be a classic! It definately hangs with GnR's best, imo.

I love "There Was a Time" - I just think that, to a 'casual' listener, the mix on the last part of the song is a huge mess.  Hence why they might have bad comments about it.  I think its compression to MP3 really hurts it, even as a demo.  Just because, again, the blending of stuff isn't real smooth. 

-darknemus

 8) ?So fucking cool! ?Even if I don't agree with the There Was a Time review. ?Darknemus was right about the need for production...hell, it's a demo! ?(TWAT's still my favorite of 4 excellent songs) ?Cool shit nonetheless!

Now, all I want, nay, demand!...is the cover of Rolling Stone!!! ? :yes:

 :beer:
 

I agree 100 percent. What would the demo of "Estranged" sound like as an MP3?

Is there an Estranged demo out there?  I've often wondered this.   ???

Glad I'm not the only one that seen the similarities. I mentioned it several times in the TWAT thread, but I guess no one else noticed it, or just isn't queensryche fans.

That's the best proof that we are not aliens or stupid persons. We always believed in Axl's talent and we always will even if CD never sees the light of the day.


I Agree with this comment, but I don't think ''Better'' is the best track. ''There Was A Time'' is a masterpiece (don't want to underrate-estimate ''Better'', but I think TWAT has the potencial of an epic classic, an hymn)



They used to say the same about ''November Rain'' or ''Coma''. Nothing to be worried.



I agree with this. But at this point, I'm a little less optimist than this guy.

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Axl farts sound better than Velvet Revolver...


The name of the guy ?;D

Sorry, back in the day, we pretty much played the hits off of the one cd, Jet City Woman and about 3 or 4 others...playing the boardgame Risk at our buddies' basement. ?Good memories. ?:)

great review of the review dude  :rofl:

That's got to put some goddamn wind in the band's (not just Axl's) sails...

Hopefully this means we get a cocky Axl with attitude in Europe this summer... not the beaten dog affraid of judgment that we saw in '02...

awesome!

someone BIG is on our side!

"sounds more line an overproduced mess"

i think they meant "like."

Typo was mine ... SORRY!!!? :-[


P.S.  I typed "aggro" wrong too.  :-X
Fixing the typos now.  : ok:

I noticed that also, was about to say RS needs editors ;P

First off, it's good to see a positive review.  No doubt.  But, Rolling Stone isn't exactly what it used to be.  It used to be THE magazine for music, but over the last few years it has lost a lot of clout.  If they had given a bad review you'd be saying Rolling Stone sucks.  It's one man's opinion and I think he's right on except I think TWAT is great too.  Anyway, good press like this certainly can't hurt.  No matter who it's from.

the review is...tight  : ok:

I think TWAt has potential, but the outro is a mess alright
IRS, I dunno, its  grown on me a little, but is fairly average
Catcher and Better are quality

"Better" is fantastic and "I.R.S." is really good.  "T.W.A.T." has the potential to be great but it's like the chorus and a few other parts are almost a splicing of different songs!!! I think Rolling Stone did something MTV won't do...give something besides CRAP music a chance! "Chinese Democracy" is FAR better than Velvet Revolver's first effort, good to hear positive reviews coming!   : ok:

haha word! ;D
good shit!!! 8)

Seems like most people prefer "Better" from the demos. ?I like the song, don't get me wrong, but I place it 3rd behind "IRS" and "TWAT". ?Those 2 songs have flip-flopped 1 and 2 over the past couple weeks. ?I still don't have the full version of "Better", just the 2 minute clip, maybe I'd like it more in full. ?CITR is growing on me. ?Weird song though. ?Sounds like a love song, ballad type. ?But the lyrics don't reciprocate.

TWAT has potential but yes it does sound like a mess . It's only a  demo though so I wouldn't worry about it. We can all hear that the song is gonna be amazing but how can anyone not admit that it sounds like a mess right now.

hey you guys remember that rumor a few months back where axl is suppose to be on the cover of the rolling stone for the spring edition.... when was that suppose to be again May?? ???

I don't think it's a mess at all, I love the demo version.

nevermind I found it.... guess we will see that issue any day now ::)


Hi. I normally do not post on message boards, but after lurking around here for a bit , I thought this may be of interest to most of you on this board. I am involved in marketing, and at a recent company party I attended I ran into a girl I went to college with but have not seen in almost six years. Anyway, we got to talking and she works as an editorial assistant over at Rolling Stone magazine. During conversation the topic of what "projects" were ahead for us in the New Year came up. She told me that Rolling Stone magazine had just booked Zack de la Rocha AND Axl Rose to appear together on the cover of their "Spring/Summer" preview issue, which will be coming out in March. It is an annual issue Rolling Stone does, and they usually jam pack it with interviews, previews, teasers, etc.
Being a big fan of Zack/Rage Against The Machine, I was very excited to hear this news and asked her some questions. She said she did not know any specifics, but both long awaited albums from Zack and Axl's new version of his band are set for an early summer release and that there will be a 1-2 page story on each singer talking about their albums. She said that Zack will be interviewed first sometime in the next few weeks, and Axl was going to be interviewed sometime in the middle of February. She said a photo shoot (Zack and Axl will be shot together) is scheduled for the end of February in Los Angeles but a photographer is still being negotiated on. She was and still is a huge music fan, so it was great to talk to her about some of the music out these days. Anyway, just thought this may be of interest to some of you on here. Can't wait to hear Zack's new album! And that Axl album may be an interesting listen too! Cheese

According to Merck, that rumor was false.

That response also earned him a week's pay! :rofl:

shesh..too much praise?  I don't get it.  The songs are good...and it's a quick and dirty review.  RS are my personal fav music mag...and yes they love rock.  deal w/ it.

that review is fake. too manty misspellings and puncuation errors

Pretty nice. Wow, though, I'm having a VERY hard time seeing how anyone can call T.W.A.T. a "mess" ~~ it's beautiful just as it is! (esp. 6:43 version)  :love:

Yeah, I do hope some of these major music rags are going to listen with open ears and "get it." That would be really cool. And I hope Axl gets some peace... from all these lawsuits etc. Same for the other guys (VR guys). Could be a VERY GOOD year for music! 

The demos are better than UYI 1 and II? Not sure how the author came to that conclusion.

Thats a cool quick review...but I think RS has lost a lot of its cred as a ROCK magazine and is now more of a pop music mag/rag.  I mean, when you have Clay Aiken and Britney on the cover, limp bizkit getting 3.5 stars reviews and no offense to VR fans, but contraband is NOT 4 stars....(well maybe in comparison to limp bizkit and britney getting 3 it is but....).

Sure, I guess its better for them to be PRO Axl then Anti, but to me their opinion means shit.

I went to rehab with a guy who worked for RS in the 90's. People would call him Big Head because his ego was so huge. Anyways he was a believer in modern music telling people if they were part of "Generation X" or "Generation next" He was being serious about this.

Nice. Another positive review. Lets hope Axl is reading and listening. And actually does release it.

Hmm, if he believed that then he was DEF in need of rehab ;)

fair enough. I just think it sounds like it has loads of potential but to me it is a mess. It's not mixed right. It more than any of the songs sounds like a demo.

that review just made my day. fuckin awsome how rolling stone finally had somethin good to say about axl. usually they piis me off with the articles they have had.



 :beer: :smoking:

That was my first thought after I heard the demos.

As we know how diligently Axl keeps tabs on all press relating to GNR, I'd say any kind word may go a long way right now, regardless of how we might view the publication.

It is the "Spring Music Preview" issue but Heath Ledger is on the cover.
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:rant: ?The review is NOT fake. ?It's on page 68 of the mag.
I already explained that the spelling errors were mine.

P.S.? You need to take that "t" out of 'many' and put it in 'punctuation' where it belongs.? ::)

Was a good review except for the TWAT comment.    Pretty harse VR comment but that's to be expected now.   Axl got his share of disses during articles when VR was all over the place.

um if there is nothing on the RS website.. chances are theres not going to be this review. theres nothing at all.

I didn't think that comparison was necessary. VR are not GN'R, GN'R are not VR. Simple as that.

And I think TWAT is much much better than IRS. IRS actually irritates me now.

Um, isn't this whole album "overproduced" technically?  i mean it has been in the making for what, 10+ years??

also:
gypsy, did you write this article?  are you Brian Hiatt? or did you copy and scan this right from the magazine -- if so then why the typo's??  im confused :nervous:

edited to fix my own typos  :confused:

good review...hopefully all this free press will get this thing out there somehow. 

Thanks, Gypsy.  That's some good press, anyways.  I've heard the demo of TWAT enough now to agree with what they say there.  I don't really think it's overproduced, I think it's just kinda lame.  (Wrong thread, I know)

Now we can only hope that Rolling Stones' current readership of prepubescents have heard stories about GN'R from their parents ::)

Shoeboy

 :beer:

I agree with  you...its amazing after the 2.30 minute mark

Why the RS guy thinks TWAT is an attempt to sound like Dont Cry is beyond me.  It's formula is very similar to November Rain.  Starts slow, mellow solo, choir of doom chorus vocals, longer crazier solo... its the same.  And I'm thrilled that it is.  NR is my all time fave, and it would be nice to have something in the same vein on the next cd. 

The rest of the review was pretty sweet though.

TWAT will sound better when its finished. There is too much going on in that demo.

twat is a masterpiece ;D

Will  be. Right now its a messterpiece. A wonderful though.  ;)

I think TWAT is the best of all three.? Better seems, IMO, more of a mess than TWAT.? Don't get me wrong Better seems to be up there with all the songs but that seems to be more unfinished than TWAT. And they used one bad picture of Axl.? Otherwise good review.  I shouldn't complain since it's like the first article that doesn't talk about Axl's braid, or he's too fat, or he's going ghetto, or some other shit and it's great to hear about someone talking about their music for change.

TWAT is actually my favorite right now but its great that Axl isnt being slammed.

Maybe CD will have a fair chance when it comes out.

No contradiction. TWAT is my favourite to, together with Better. That doesn change the fact, that it is still sounding pretty confused.

I like to look at this in a positive way: Yes, it is (technically) a mess, but ALREADY one of my all time favourites. I don't dare to think, how good the studio version will be.

It already sounds better than Velvet Revolver

Ouch.

I actually didn't even think about comparing the two. lol

Thanks for the article, Gypsy!! : ok:
Humm.. Twat just wasn't mixed properly. It's not really overproduced, but I agree it's a mess.

She wrote what was in the article and saved as a jpeg file to avoid stealing, I guess.

Yeah!!! Cool!!! ;D ;D ;D :hihi:

HAHAA YEA FUCK VR! ;D

hehe, hopefully axl will listen too allthis publicity and take the oportunity to give us something

he would only have heard the poor quality version of twat so thats why he thinks its a mess, but better than vr, deffinatly :)

I was just saying yesterday in other thread that those leak songs are way much better than Contraband.
Now RS said the same review.

This is fuckin great. CD has to start!!

Long live AXL... but please release it soon...

Wow, it must be true then... ::)

Music is subjective, why does this always have to turn into a GN'R vs VR debate like every other topic on this board ???

Agreed, Better is one really good song. I thought he was too hard going in T.W.A.T, he should listen to it more.

It's like what Voodoochild is saying ... I purchased the mag and I typed out the review on to paper with a HTGTH watermark on it and then scanned/saved it as a jpeg file because other sites have a bad habit of coming to HTGTH to copy & paste the articles here and post them on their own sites WITHOUT crediting HTGTH ... AND THAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!! ?:rant:

I DO NOT work for HTGTH. ?(I'm only a member here like most of youze.) ?I am NOT Brian Hiatt. ?I DO NOT work for RollingStone mag. ?That's why, when I post something from a mag, ?I list the mag's name/issue number/issue date and the writer and photographer's names. ?

I'm just a GNR fan and HTGTH is the best GNR fan-site on the internet!!! ?:headbanger:

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LIAR! GNRONLINE.COM IS THE BEST!












 :hihi:

;D ;D :rofl: :rofl:

well id rather be seeing a review of the real album but at least it looks promising and the potential is being realised

Gnr will be back like phoenix from the ashes  

Its nice to hear a few kind words.. maybe since Axl and the boys help sell magazines on the rack.

Why can't anyone write an article for ONCE not comparing new GN'R and Velvet Revolver, what a dick.
"It beats most of UYI" oh come on...

UYI got good reviews from Rolling Stone. They have always been more than fair with Gnr. I guess they know Gnr sells copies so they want to stay on the good side of the fans. ;D

ok, i just wasn't sure....this is the only site i check out, so i was confused....but thanks for clearning that up. 

p.s.  this definatly is the best site out there....and jarmo is the best person running a gnr site.

Its bound to happen and us fans should get used to it....personally, I don't see how you CAN'T compare the two.

i couldn't agree more with the Rolling Stones. I do disagree however about TWAT

Thanks Gypsy
Finally a proper review
But
"It beats most of UYI" oh come on...
Yeah like fellow FANS, I think the comparison with VR and the "most of" bit are totally unnecessary  >:(
although these are demos.

And Twat is more like estranged than Scom IMO.


No. 8 stars  :P

?Rose howling like he just got off that bus from Indiana?

 :drool: :drool:

You do love a nice contradiction, don't you son?

i think that these new songs beat most of UYI

those songs were cool when I was like 12 years old.  don't get me wrong, i like some of them, but a lot of them are just silly

p.s.? this definatly is the best site out there....and jarmo is the best person running a gnr site.


I hope the show in Sweden has a V.I.P. balcony or something where Jarmo can chill, drink some nice champagne, and have Axl thank him from the stage. ? :peace:

Things certainly are shaping up well for '06. ? 8)

1.? There are no balconies in Sweden? :no:
2.? Jarmo only drinks Lapin Kulta? ?:beer:

3.? Axl thinks Jarmo's from Belgium*? :hihi:




*It's a joke ..... I know Axl knows where Jarmo lives ..... Jarmo's address is listed on the restraining order.? :P

I believe it's actually highlighted.