Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This Board was crazy for about 2 weeks, new leaks, album, axl. Now, it seems to be fading AGAIN. No OFFICIAL announcements, no album info, and back to hearing about bullshit lawsuits. It was 20 years ago, get the hell out of court, and release the album!

Sorry guys and gals, but I for one thought they would take advantage of all the new positive hype and we would hear something by now. If it is not released this year, than why release it all all?

We do we, as fans, always think we can accurately predict GN'R's next move...?

whats funny is, that hours, days before the leaks and the Axl interviews, there was people here saying the same as U...  :hihi:

It's not all bad dude, just think of it,

May 27th to July 5th (so far) G'NR are going to be touring europe. I'm so excited!!!!!

And, I don't even live in Europe.

Lets just hope that something will happen besides the tour. But I know what you mean...this board is fading out,but we're all still here,quietly waiting like we do for more than 12 years now

Well, in all honesty, GNR is busy planning there European tour.  Maybe when there done with all that, they will say something.   :-\

You'd think CD would come out before the tour started so people could sing along.  :yes:

Does anyone really think theyre going to play at all 12 events?

"All we need is just a little patience" as Izzy put it. Do you think that this days popular band-fanbases are getting some update every other day what's going on? A statement will happen we all know it.

so far yeah :hihi:

it's all a waiting game. May isn't that far away, hold on to your spandex biker shorts and enjoy the ride :peace:

As soon as Axl's management made that lame pussy lawsuit statement I think it kind of killed the buzz around here. It did for me anyways. It's been weeks since the tracks leaked, and days since gigs have been confirmed but not anything close to a press release from the GnR camp.

Weren't Paris and the Czech republic JUST confirmed yesterday/today?

We're getting tricklings every couple of days...

Exactly, they are probably waiting until all the dates are sorted out to make an official announcement.

My only problem with all of this is we got a tour and tour anouncement 4 years ago. We need to start getting info about this album. It seemed like it was within reach, but now I'm not sure. Like the author of this thread said.... just more of the same crap we got 4 years ago. If this tour passes without any album info (and I don't mean an empty Axl promise "We'll be back next year with a bunch more songs") then they will have lost any credibility they had left over from the 02 mess.

Relax..........

It's coming.

Yeah, I definitely think that axl and his band have a lot to justify. But, besides these tour dates, we really don't know what's gonna happen this spring/summer.

I am hoping that CD gets released before he does his European festivals this summer.   Would be so great to have this thing before.   I do fear an instant replay of 2002.. :nervous:  I don't even want to think it but as long time fans you can't help but have that in the back of your mind.

What's your point here?

Good point.  Dates are getting added and some people are acting like its 03 again.  The ball is rolling people.

Honestly, no. I don't think the album will be released prior and tour will struggle without people knowing the songs. Not sure how ticket sales will be either because of that. He skips out on 1 show, fans get pissed, plays a few more shows then bags the whole thing entirely. My guess is the record company gets soo fed up they just "leak" all the songs they can get their hands on to ruin Axl's masterpiece. Another lawsuit follows.

For anyone who questions my faith as a loyal GnR fan, I was at the Philly 2002 show and have been disappointed by him before. I have written a post detailing the events if you care to check it out (In List of events that led up to 2002).

naah, i think he will show at all venues. BUT we sure as hell can expect some Axl Rose signature actions on those shows.....coming on late, ranting like a mofo, stopping the show early or plays an extra hour to piss off promoters.

I almost can't believe anything until at least they all step on the stage and play rio and hear what is happening.. 12 different festivals/venues with bands that fans might not like axl from past stuff possibly heckling him... I hope all goes well so the album can come out and the tour of the states can begin..

To the original post I don't think it "really" matters when they release the album in regards to the hype.. I never heard any of the tracks on my local radio station, and most regular people don't know anything about new gnr so the ?hype hasn't really been lost .. it just sucks for us to be around the forum when the news we all expect to happen doesn't come.. The hype these leaks bring are mostly beneficial to the gnr fan community online..

Come on guys... chill... do you expect Axl to come on here every day and give you a handjob or something?? :nervous:

A ton of summer dates have been announced... the band's starting to rehearse... Dizzy cancelled much of his tour.... Axl has finally answered Slash & Duff's civil complaint (and in the process once and for all killed the reunion talk- at least for now)... the ball is still rolling...

Why not? GnR' hold the record for the longest world wide tour. 2 1/2 years.

GnR' are not coming back for 12 shows, but more like 2 years worth.

And therein lies the problem.

GNR Management should have done one of two things by now:

Scheduled the WHOLE tour, told promoters to keep quiet a few days, then announced it (European Tour)

or

Released a press release saying "GNR to Headline European Tour" with the 12 dates we have so far and a "more dates to be announced" comment.

See, other bands do that. They put out a press release with a partial list and confirm more dates later. That makes the whole thing look more professional, and not like something that might fall apart at the last minute.

I've been a huge supporter of the band, but the way this is being handled reeks of amateurism. You get no official comment from the band/management on the leaks - from the band, fine, but management should have said SOMETHING other than just C&D's and postings to webmasters. Something like "Those demos were from 12-2002, do not represent the finished product, blah blah" at the very least, or "Hell those are almost finished and we hope you like em."

Then there's no announcement of the shows from the band or its management.

Then there's the lame lawsuit press release, which should have been handled quietly.

Merck made some comment about fans bitching when we finally get news, but it's never been the lack of news that was the problem, but the lack of QUALITY, positive news.

The ball is dropping and unless Merck has a gold glove, it's pretty much out of grasp unless the album is gonna be released prior to June. The only thing that's going to rescue all the good karma the band got from Axl's public appearences and the leaks is a CD.

i heard they're touring until the 15th of july or even longer .so there's a lot more to come

Amen- and also, im very sure merck would have loved to announce everything at once-but tour negotiations have proved to be a lengthier process than anctipated (not surprising given 2001 and 2002z0. at least we're getting something!

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you do realise that gnr doesn't exist anymore right?? During that time they were the biggest band in the world with tons of demand with two mega albums on their way or already had depending on the year.. Axl's been gone quite  along time he is older, he is so unpredictable that anything can set him off to destroy this... So yes he can do anything he wants, but what might happen is soemthing else..

Dont worry guys. GNR Wont dissapoint us this year...

FAKE!!! PRESS RELEASE:

Guns N' Roses are pleased to announce their first wide-scale tour of Europe in over a decade, commencing with a headlining gig at Rock in Rio V in Lisbon, Portugal on May 27th. Led by legendary frontman Axl Rose, the band will play a mixture of festivals and solo dates across the continent from late May into July.

Guns N' Roses broke onto the scene in the mid-1980s with the now classic hard-rock album "Appetite for Destruction," featuring hit singles like "Welcome to the Jungle" and "Paradise City." That album went on to sell over 15 million copies. Their feature-length follow-up, the twin albums "Use Your Illusion I" and "Use Your Illusion II", debuted at No. 2 and No. 1, respectively, the first time in history a band simultaneously released two albums into the top two spots on music charts. It produced an array of hits, from "Don't Cry" and "November Rain," the hard-hitting "You Could Be Mine" (featured in the film Terminator 2: Judgement Day), and the Paul McCartney cover "Live and Let Die."

With the release of the 13-year in the making Chinese Democracy drawing neigh, Guns N' Roses are pleased to announce the following dates:

Rock in Rio V - May 27th (Lisboa, Portugal)
Gods of Metal Festival - June 4th (Milan, Italy)
RDS Arena - June 9th (Dublin, Ireland)
Download Festival - June 11th (Donnington, England)
Sazka Arena - June 13th (Prague, Czech Republic)
Legia Stadium - June 15th (Warsaw, Poland)
Nova Rock Festival - June 17th (Burgenland, Austria)
Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy - June 20th (Paris, France)
Graspop Metal Meeting - June 24th (Dessel, Belgium)
Globen Arena - June 26th (Stockholm, Sweden)
Roskilde Festival - June 29th-July 2nd (Roskilde, Denmark)
Hartwall Arena - July 5th (Helsinki, Finland)

More dates will be announced shortly.

For information, contact:

Merck, lazy arse of a manager, care of Sanctuary.

How fucking difficult was that? Someone send that to Merck and tell him he's free to edit/spruce it up, e-mail it and fax it out to the press hounds, and voilla: fans will be satisfied.

That was a lame quicky job I did in five minutes... why is it so difficult for a professional to manage something similar (and better, since he's fucking paid).

i guess merck is busy googling "guns and roses leak" to shut down some sites...

"Results 1 - 10 of about 230,000 for guns and roses leak"

that might take a while  :hihi:

Ha-ha, that's funny Kyrie.. And no a bad job either. :yes:

good point! : ok:
happenings in the gnr world always occur when you at least expect them to :smoking:

I get so tired of these onrey-ass g'nr fans.  ::)

So? If the album's not released it'll all be old stuff.

no, they will still play new stuff... just wont be recieved as well as it should be if the Cd hit stores before the concert... but who knows... if it were a concert for all of us on HTGTH then im sure he could play all new songs and wed all prety much go nuts.. its the people who only listen to radio tunes that would be dissapointed..

not at all.....perhaps Donington and RiR

I think that's weak in general and a weak strategy. Why play new songs with no album? You'll just let the people hear the new stuff and it'll become stale when it's finally out. Well maybe not, but I still think the album being released before the tour is a better idea... They could use the tour to promote the album and make it huge.

nah playing new stuff is the way to go, why would this band want to keep playing other people's music.. Eventually it just will appear to be some cover band with nothing new..Like the illusions tour you need to introduce music for the album

I agree, but I think if you're going to play new stuff, why not have an album out too?

Im not saying that thats what should happen.. lol i was replying to your comment about it not coming out.. and if you dont agree with it.. thats fine but its obvious that they will play some new songs... i mean they have played riyad and the bedoines, the blues, madagaskar and such live anyways.. so why not the rest.. weve all heard it....

and why does everyone care if the songs go stale? if you like them then thats good enough.. stop complaining... once songs get overplayed on the radio they begin to suck anyways..... so who gives a shit.. if u like the songs... AWESOME.. if not.. too bad your a commercial loser as well.... just jam to the music... that all it here for.. not to be disected into whether or not its gonna be a radio hit.

thats what we are all saying.. but its not up to us whether the album is out by then or not.. all we can do is hope.

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of course.... I have no idea what will happen before june.. They can't possibly tour again with no album... maybe it'll fly overseas but not hear in USA, who the hell is going to take such a risk with no money making record.?

Consider that most bands tour for a bit without their albums out.  VR did it with their first album, GN'R did it for months without UYI out...

The only reason they'd be more inclined to release the album is because it's kinda been anticipated/they don't want the new songs to leak until the album is out.  I'm pretty sure the reasons bands tour without the album out is to create buzz about the songs so the first week sales are better.  If GN'R don't promote themselves at all (including getting people to hear the music), the first week sales aren't going to be big and first week sales have a huge impact on the success of most albums.

You make a good point, however those bands also play SMALL venues prior to the album coming out. Remember when VR was playing clubs in LA??  I saw VR in Philly 1 week before the album was released, in a venue which holds about 1,000 people. Not an outdoor 30,000-60,000 stadium like these Europe shows.

But yeah, hearing some songs before the album does create a buzz. I remember when VR finished "Fall to Pieces" a guy turned around and said "That songs going to be big!!"

I think 2006 is the year. The leaks, the apperaences, and shit. The dates keep being added on for shows too. Something is about to happen.. When all the dates are settled I think we will hear a statement. We better.. silent for too long.

leak "prostitute" :rofl:

plz :drool:

the hype may not die :peace:

There is no such thing as a hype at this moment. So it can't exactly die. It's just the casual Guns fans (like me and you) visiting this place who get the most excited of all and likes to think everyone in the outside world follows the leaks and tourdates by foot. There most probably will be a hype once the CD is announced and the promotion starts rolling for the everyday musiclistener. And if the people react to that in the way promotion people intended, it'll create a hype. Now calm down.

VR did it? when? I seen them in PA, with about 8 other bands. The album was new, but people knew almost every song. We all had our favorites and different people sand there favorites right along with the band. NO WAY, can gne tour AGAIN, with no new material. NO ONE can be that stupid. It did not work in 2002, and it wont work today! There is no reason not to release thsu album. The leaks sound good already, which means the tracks will be awesome. It is up to axl to do it right!

not gonna lie guys.. even if they had no material id still go to a GNR concert.. do u know how rare one of there concerts are these days? thinks twice about what ure saying..

All he has to do onstage is simply say "This is our new single" and all will be ok : ok:

I must say i am one of these people that only really utilizes the board in times of great intrest.  I check it every now and again, but i never really actually post unless something is happening.  i might slip in an occasional post here or there during down time, but unless something is truly happening, im usually just checking the news section on the homepage. 

This would be a good time to take advantage of, but axl has had several different times like these over the past several years.  Even if it doesnt come out now, there will still be a huge interest if something else "happens" (like another leak or surprise show or tour announcement).   

Touring again without an album might be bad for uncle axl.....so why schedule all these show's with no album released??  i think he has something up his sleeve (CD hopefully?).

All i want to know is two fucking simple things...

1) At what state is the album at. STill tracking, mixing, mastering, duplicating???

2) who is actually in the band. Is it a two guitar piece or three?

Why the secrecy for fuck sake. This isn't the da vinci works decoded for christ sake.... its suppose to be rock n roll.

I mean if they are not done tracking by the end of april when all the band is together anyway to rehearse. With a release date sometime this summer.... they are the most backasswards band that has ever walked the earth. Most bands are excited to get their new material to the fans, let them know what is going on, tell them the plan. Not axl he likes to pretend he is the fucking godfather of music... "kiss my holy ass and i'll tell you that the music is coming soon"

get on with it already. If it isn't 'perfect' yet then you suck. stop teasing us.

thanks for the rant

lol that made me laugh :rofl:
only axl, you gotta love him :hihi:

The album will hit this year for sure.  Axl isn't stupid, the strippers and the bar were just a good way to gauge the timing.  The timing is right, the songs are great and we want  our greedy hands on this stuff soon!! Hook us up Axl, rock needs an I.V. !!  Tap our veins once again!!

yeah, all of 5000 die hard fans