Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This thought has come to me.
Could the latest stories mean that it?s virtually dangerous for a VR-fan to come with a slash-shirt to a gnr-concert?

definitely.

I'll go even more far, I can tell you if Axl ended-up as Dimebag Darell I wouldn't be surprised. I can see a crazy fan doing to Axl what a crazy Megadeath fan did to Dimebag Darell. Expect everything.

first off, if you wear a slash t-shirt to a guns gig you're stupid. slash is not going to be there so why wear a fucking slash t-shirt you know...

its called a free world, you can wear what you want

as an english man or atleast someone from the uk you should know better...

try your free world thing and wear a rangers shirt in the celtic section...

try your free world thing and wear a rangers shirt in the celtic section...

That?s what I meant. Has the music world come to this?

Dude i dont think there is a hardcore VR fan that would do that but theres many hard fuckin core gnr fans out there!

Free, really?

The event is not public, it's private. They can ban anyone that looks like Slash if they want to.

Nes, thats going a little too far, but I can easily see Axl starting a riot at Rio or one of the other shows. It doesnt take much to set him off, and a bunch of VR fans, slash fans, or him just being in a shitty mood could start a huge disaster. He should be forced to undergo a psychological evaluation before even going to Rio. There is going to be hundreds of thousands of people there, and it could get ugly real quick. Many things could happen. If AFD rehash starts, people(not all) might start booing in the middle of the show. Slash chants, a few BH chants, people yelling for new songs, etc. The show likely to have problems isnt rio, its the one that metallica will be at the day before. Hetfield isnt likely to let the opportunity pass to make a remark about Axl. Axl will respond the next day. The media will be all over those shows, because the chance of something happening are very high.

ok lets get one thing straight, i aint english or from the UK  : ok:

and nothing would happen to anyone wearing a rangers jersey in the celtic section, if it was the other way around i know rangers fans would happily beat up the person in the celtic jersey

so with your argument about football, are you implying that GNR fans woulld beat up VR fans if they wore a slash shirt to one of the gigs??

Or people calling out for old songs durring new songs. 

A VR vs GNR feud could do one of 2 things


It could go like Biggie/2pac and cause both bands to become even more popular, cause a ton of interest and buzz and benefit both bands careers



it could turn out like the 50 cent/jaRule feud where 50 became even more popular and JaRule's career was destroyed.


Feuds are great for music in my opinion. great publicity and causes interest for people who normally wouldnt care.

Free world. Try wearing a KKK Outfit in the Bronx. Good luck. actually fuck that. anyone who would do that is retarted. so what if its a freee world. u cant do certain things.. use your head.

And if axl sees u in a SLASH T shit.. who knows what hed say.. BTW who the fuck owns a slahs t shirt n e ways.. jeese.

so with your argument about football, are you implying that GNR fans woulld beat up VR fans if they wore a slash shirt to one of the gigs??

No, I would certainly not beat up anyone. But if someone stood beside me at the concert, booing and chanting "where?s Slash". I?d say fuck that...

so what about wearing an old gnr shirt is that allowed??

No it's called being a shirt stirrer.  And if you show up in that Slash shirt, Axl has every right to have you removed from the premises.  After all it's a free world and GN'R can let whomever they want in their concerts and prevent whomever they want from coming in.  If you want to piss people off, I suggest finding better hobbies.

What do you think?

Lucky, I managed to order a red GnR football jersey from merch.com last year....gotta love that!  :smoking:

Dude. WTF are u talking about. I mean im ashamed to be of a lower rank on this board then you. Obviously if you wear a GNR T-Shirt its totally fine.. its still axls band dumbass... IF YOU WEAR A SLASH T SHIRT hes obviously not going to appreciate it. Think before you make stupid posts man. even me a newbie knows that.

i dunno thats why i asked

im going to see them, but iv already spent nearly 200 quid on tickets, travel and accomadation, i also need time of work, now i dont have any shirts of the new band, just the old one but i asl0o dont have cash to be buying a new shirt thatl cost about 40 quid, so thats why i asked



i said an old shirt, not  a slash one, get you facts right

As long as you don't have a shirt with something that says "I'M NOT HERE TO SEE YOU, I'M HERE TO PISS YOU OFF" then you'll be fine. Just a little respect for the people doing their job on stage is required.

Of course it?s alright to wear an old shirt.

But maybe, you should leave the slash wig/shirt at home...

You made a comment about it being a free world in regards to a slash t shirt dildo baggins.. lol...

Enjoy the concert. Wear the old t shirt.. retro is always good.

in the post you quoted i didnt  : ok:

Jesus fucking christ. You guys turn what could have been an interesting thread into a bunch of immature childish arguments about t-shirts. Some of you people are ruining this great forum.

ok whatever dude. like i said have a good time at the concert. :beer:

Dude calm down...lets just lets it roll the t shirt arguement is over iite bro? :beer:

I would say that this thread has taken the intelligence level of the entire board down another notch.

Next up maybe we should start arguing over who has a better post-shit ass wiping technique, Robin or Slash.

I think your scenarios are just as far fetched as Axl being shot by a crazed fan.  Yeah, people want to hear new songs, but booing b/c hes not playing new songs - which I dont' think will be the case, and without a new album beforehand who wants to hear new songs you're not going to know - is just insane.  I think there is a VERY small handful of people who would be that upset that they are booing if all they heard were AFD/UYI songs.  Especially a euro audience that is completely in love with Axl and GNR.  And if Metallica did make a remark about Axl/Guns...then you'd hear some booing.  I would assume Guns is MUCH more popular then Metallica over seas.

Sometimes I go to hockey games with a VR shirt even though I'm aware VR won't be there...

Slash, EASILY.  I can't believe you even want to debate this.  GOD!

hahaha  :hihi:

Hahahahaha

He definitely wipes with more feel and a better vibrato.

hmmm not really, go to the download forum and youl see that metallica are much more popular

Wait a minute! Have you seen Robin do it solo! I'll admit, he doesn't have the chemistry Axl and Slash had, but he is definitly a top notch blues ass-wipe!

There arent enough Axl fans to start a riot with.

Brilliant stuff!

Back on topic, I think there will always be gobshites in the crowd who are bias towards one version of the band. Youhave to sympathetic with the fans of old band going to see these european shows. I know for a fact that a large number of fans going to see the Irish show will be wondering where the hel ?Slashis. The general public dont know whos in/out of the band. And there WILL be a lot of people wearing Slash t-shirts!




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IrishRose, you might have hit the insert key by accident.  try hitting it again and see what happens.

Thats sorted it.

Cheers!!

Personally, anyone that is dumb enough to wear a shirt with a picture of someone's face on it is a total fuckup in the first place. ?Pardon me - teenage fagot pussies need to be able to express themselves because they either weren't held enough as a child or they feel that they aren't paid enough attention. ?Grow up people, wear real clothes.

slash will always be a part of the name guns n roses even though hes not there.itd be the same if axl had left.there should be no rivalry between VR fans and GNR fans coz they are one in the same.

Can this thread incite a riot?

Ummm did you look at the amount of members here and at mynr and CD.com all axl fans. I dont know of any diehard VR fans.

if someone wears a shirt that says where's slash they deserve to have their ass kicked.  They are just tryin to piss of axl.  at that point, why go to the show.  if its an old gnr shirt i am sure axl has nothing against that..

Just thought I'd point out. Saying not to wear an old GN'R shirt is pathetic. It is because of the Old GN'R that we are all here I hope you don't forget that. It's because of the old GN'R that Axl and his new band get all these headlines and press.

you`re really exaggerating now...

we had rio allready and nothing happened... and i don`t think it got worse since then. i can`t see fans booing, because of an "AFD rehash". we eropeans never had that by the way (well 3-5 shows actually....)  slash chants happened allready as well, in osaka for example.  if hetfield makes a comment on axl, it will be sorted out after an axl rant... and what`s the problem in chanting for new songs??  ???

by the way, do you remember it`s so easy at rio3?

i think it`s very unlikely that axl would incite a riot in one of those conerts if they actually took place. he is no three year old child or rockstar with an unpredictable temper anymore....  even axl rose matured....

Its funny how you never heard of one fan, at a VR concert, with a shirt "Where is Axl?"

This proves that Slash was the man and if any one should be G N' R, it sould be him.

i like both bands, and will not be put in a position to choose one or another. they are all talented musicians in their own right.

yeah maybe its because axl was never in VR  : ok:

Thats stupid.  If people wanted him they would cheer and beg for him...      VR is basiclly G N' R without the name anyways

no why would you go to VR and look for AXl?? thats been stupid

he has absolutley nothing to do with VR, never did and never will

 :rofl: Oh my God, thats fuckin funny! ?When didi they chant Where's Axl? ?But back to the point, I don't think Axl would be mad if I wore my Appetite or old Guns logo shirt, he gets a huge cut of the profits. ?I like rivalries, it could make both bands bigger and I wouldn't mind kicking some ass, literally or having a debate with a VR fan. ?If we get CD, this could potentially blow up and be huge.

and without the good songs. 

And Steve Adler!!!  and most of all, Tracy and Roberta...they WERE Guns N' Roses Dammit!!!!!

Well fans could start something. Jsut look at this board its pathetic. Who the fuck cares? If you like VR then like them.. Same goes with Guns. I like them both.. I don't follow Slash or Axl like a blind 3 legged puppy... I have my own mind and I have my own likes.. I like both bands' music and I will see both bands live.. And I will wear whatever I want.. Prob my BLS colors but maybe just maybe a Slash T so i can laugh at the fans who start shit with me.. And vice versa for a VR show..

Just enjoy the music and the guys int he band and stop buying into THEIR legal and personal battles.

 :rofl: :rofl:

that just proves that noone gives a fuck about vr, whos there and whos not...

Lets not act like they are shit. They are all talented guys who everyone use to enjoy under another name. It's like a crappy civil war(no pun) bullshit around here lately.

yes, you're right...I think this thread can incite a riot right here  :hihi:

Actually people have asked for Guns N' Roses at VR concerts, which lead the singer to bash Axl.

how big would a GNR/VR tour be

^ I think if they're in the same venue the universe will implode.

If i was at a GNR concert and I saw someone yelling for Slash or wearing a Slash shirt I would beat the piss out of him  : ok:

If Islander and Ranger fans can be in the same arena together so can VR and GNR fans :peace:

since when VR and GNR fans are fighting ..... thats BS!!!!!

where is a hardcore fan from velvet revolver?!?!?! the type of GNR hardcore fan

velvet revolver is a "new" band and i think that 90 % of VR fans are GNR fans too

so i dont think that a riot its possible

I dont think axl will care if people wear old gunners shirts, If that pisses him off then he should reconsider being called GnR...... I say bring on the slash shirts, If it upsets axl, he badly needs to get his head checked.

the only person who will benefit the most out of a potential VR vs GNR feud will be Scott Weiland....as a major royalty receiver on the VR side, he must be smiling all the way to the bank...

...he should actually take Axl and Slash out for dinner...and thank them for placing him in the spotlight again...and making him money...

Only time a VR vs GNR feud will happen is if the public insults between the two bands reach epic proportions...which I can see Axl doing on stage, but am not too sure about Scott...I haven't seen him live, so I don't really know.

Actually at the VR gig I went to people were calling out.. but this whole arguement is stupid anyway.

It's quite sad that we were all once fans of the same band and would have all gone to the same gigs together and enjoyed the same music. We write about how Axl or Slash lack class and maturity. That Axl or Slash is a baby etc etc.. We aren't much better by the look of all these threads. I have been guilty of this in the past and I'm just sick of it. This whole situation is very sad.

I guess I can throw out my afd t shirt that I wore to the 2002 msg show being none of them were there :hihi:

Where whatever you wantg gnr related, axl uses the gnr name so the fans can where anything gnr related.. As long as you aren't in the front row waving the shirt at him..

how can you say that. GNR is axl his vocals make gnr so fucking kick ass, he gives all those songs the kick asss attitude they need.

let me know where you are sitting and I'll wear a big fuck slash t shirt :smoking:

You people have no fucking spine. "yhyy, what can I wear? :'(". YOU CAN WEAR ANYTHING YOU WANT.

"If i was at a GNR concert and I saw someone yelling for Slash or wearing a Slash shirt I would beat the piss out of him"
Why? so uncle Axl is happy? maybe you would get a candy from him?

Iv'e seen VR live once and bits of bootleg live performances and from what I've seen he doesn't seem to talk to the crowd much. At the show I was at I think he said 2 things all night 'sorry we're late' and 'this songs 1 for the ladies'. So as for ranting about GNR it doesn't seem the kind of thing he'd do but who knows.

Or throwing it at him?I wonder how he'd react...
No,jk ;)

99.9% of the people don't and shouldn't care about the war or words.
It's none of our business anyway. I love AXl, but think the press release was childish.
I understand he was defensive about the lawsuit, but name calling and dragging dirt into it is totally useless and irrelevant. This case isn't being tried in a public forum.
It's about royalties and rights to music, something that most fans could care less about.

Anyone who boycotts either GnR or VR as a result of this needs to get their head examined.

yeah me too, better be careful tho because jive thinks hes a ninja

Jive.. As in dtjmf.. never knew that was him...

oh yeah thats him

Lets compare the latest from each band.....
Better    vs     Come on come in
Which is the best song?
i like come on come in more.

no me....come on feels like a bad idea which never really had the chance to happen...whereas 'better', even though its in demo format...sounds like a good classic rock song should sound.

FUCK.... imagine COCI with axl singing    :drool:

imagine any VR song with Axl on vocals.....

fuck off with that shit!
what the hell is the matter with you!

If people start to make trouble because of clothes they are just dumbasses.? Just don't yell for the old band because you won't get any further with that.? I think Axl would love to have the old band back together (minus S. Adler, he's really fucked up) but none of them want to take the first step. So ... let it be, maybe it's gonna happen sometime ...

This clothing bullshit reminds me at something.? During the tour of '02 everbody was talking about what Axl &Co were wearing on those shows.? What the fuck was that?? It's a band on a freakin' stage, not some models on a catwalk.

Nah, Metallica are way more popular than GnR over here (Britain and Ireland) at the moment. First they still have most of their original members and release albums (albeit shit ones) and plus GnR are never mentioned in the media over here. I know way more people going to Metallica in the RDS than GnR. Thing is a lot of people are coming from overseas to GnR. They would never fill the RDS based off Irish fans alone. Metallica would, easily. A bad comment from Hetfield about GnR wouldn't cause much of a stir among fans at their concert. Download might be different, coz fans of either band are paying for the whole weekend, but I would still think they would be mostly Metallica fans, who would cheer everything Hetfield says, anyway. Plus, I've noticed Metallica don't normally hold grudges or talk about other bands on stage. Hetfield is not a ranter like Axl!

Imagine any CD song with Slash on lead guitar:drool:

I don't think Metallica are more popular, its just with nothing happening why would there be any press from them. When Velvet Revolver released Contraband Slash was on Radio 1. He only attracted the intrest of a national radio station because he was in Guns n Roses and the press are hungry to talk about them, Axl just needs go give them something to talk about. Im going to Dublin to see them because you'll get a longer set and more new songs. At Leeds in 2002 there we're 2 new songs but I heard there were a few more at the Wembley gig.

I agree with this. Neither band are gonna reach the heights of the old band musically. The standard is too high. But neither the new GnR nor VR need to be the best band ever for me to like and want to listen to them. I like Contraband and thought VR were great live. Just because they don't have Axl and Izzy doesn't make them bad. Not all great music has to have Axl singing. There are other good singers. Similarly, I'm expecting a lot from the new GnR and like what I hear so far. Axl doesn't need Slash to make great music. There is no one or the other, like you have to choose between them. There both great bands, with different styles so enjoy the music. If you don't like either the new GnR or VR, well fine but don't make it personal, like saying Slash sucks. This is the guy who played lead on so many of your favourite songs. The fact is that personality wise, all the original GnR members were all fucked up in their own ways. That was an important contribution to the quality of their music. I think I remember one of them, can't remember who said that they were a bunch of misfits who together made some of the most amazing music, i.e.  "Nice Boys Don't Play Rock N' Roll."

but will scott shoot axl or will axl shoot scott?

I could, and I could see people loving slither dlt or ygnr.. Tiss a shame we have two seperate bands made up of ex and new gnr members... All the happiness that could be had if the band was together..

we if it did i would be ashamed to be a fan ot either band there is no way in the world that music should start a riot

If Axl comes to New Zealand I definitley wont be wearing my Velvet Revolver t-shirts.

Someone sitting in the front row should wear a Stephanie Seymour shirt. :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

This is the real point.
It is just music, people!
Meant to be ENJOYED.

Splash

/Mike

And as Scott Weilands answer came...this thread suddenly got in the steam again.  :smoking:

Haha with all this crap going on right now that was a good little laugh  :hihi:

That's a great idea. Music is so hard to be successful with and so hard to make enjoyable that bands shouldn't bash each other and neither should fans. Everyone on the planet should get a little more familiar with different music styles to accept it for what it is instead of saying things like, "Classical sucks" or "Rap is gay" or other negative stuff. 

that made me laugh.... I'll put on the erin shirt :peace:

Pfft! Just a t-shirt! Hell I'd go there dressed as Axl, with a t-shirt sayin' "Where's Axl!?" and waving a huge flag SAYING "Where's Axl!!?"

Scotty-boy would burst that vein in his forehead! :rofl:

Spontaneous Combustion

Re: Can the GnR vs. VR incite a riot?

concidering the recent events the answer would be yes!

The only true cause of riots, war, or anything of worth can only be Synergy.

Yes.

What is with you and synergy?

What if VR opend for GNR what do u think that would do :nervous:

^ That will never happen so don't waste your time worrying about it.

:rofl: Totally!! I'd pay to see that!! :rofl:

they'll all come out playing wild horses and wish you were here

It's like wearing a Backstreet Boys shirt to an Iron Maiden concert... Only more dangerous.

:rofl: I'd still do it though! Yea I might get beaten to a pulp, but it'd be worth it! : ok:

Pretty fucking stupid if you ask me.

Both bands are GNR in essence. In GNR you have Axl and in VR you have S & D and Matt, so just enjoy both bands  : ok:

  :rofl:

Hell yeah, if I go to a VR gig in L.A., I'll take all my GN'R friends(Jack, you interested?) and we'll cause trouble, European football hooligan style, 'cuz I can't stand Weiland.   :beer:

Err, NO! Because VR suck ass! :hihi:

Even if VR "sucks ass", which they don't, it doesn't make them not GN'R in essence.

Meh! Each to their own I guess. : ok:

DUDE! Lets hold up "Wheres Axl" and "Slash Called You A Damn Fraud Weiland!" signs and chant "GUNS N ROSES! GUNS N ROSES!"

All this while wearing "Buckethead=GNR" shirts  :hihi:

Can I come!!? Pleeease? I'll lend youse two some of my bandanas! : ok:

There's ALWAYS a place for you!

Aww thanks hun! Woo! :-*

haha, i want to see that  :hihi:

Same. But I don't just want to SEE it... I want to DO it! : ok:

I can film it  :hihi:

:hihi: Yep! And you can capture on film the exact moment when the end of my boot connects with the barely-there nuts of Scotty-boy! :hihi: : ok:

Hell yeah!  :hihi: : ok:

Of corse you can come  :-*

Just.. dont waste your time with Garry.. I hear hes gay...

(he told me!)

 :hihi:

Kiddin garry...

Heh, were just gonna keep this joke going forever...  :hihi: