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am i the only one who got bored to death whenever AXL would take 25 minutes in the set to let the drummer play a drum solo, then a guitar solo then 30 fuckin minutes later the show resumes...thank god for the fast forward button on my dvd player and stereo so when i watch or listen to bootlegs i can FF that shit..........Heres hoping Axl doesnt go back to that shit this spring...nobody cares about 20 minute drum solos..1 minute is enuff

yes you are the only one...

I was never one for any kind of drum solo especially the ever long matt dorum ones.. Personally I love the drums kicking ass in a song but it never did anything for me alone.. I think the drum guitar shit is to give axl a breather or change his clothes

i like drum solos, just not in gnr.

Yeah drumsolos must be forbidden in law

Amen. There are only 1 or 2 drummers that I would even care to see play by themselves. Nobody has the talent to truly impress me on drums(by themselves). Guitar, on the other hand, isnt as limited as drums and so Im all for 30 minute Slash guitar solos :D

retards. lol

good drum solos rock. yes im a drummer. BUT they should be limited to a few minutes.

however, noone can claim that john bonhams solos in moby dick were anything short of amazing and they lasted 20mins easily!

i love a good solo from every band member thats short and sweet, but i do prefer them in the context of a song and not on their own - ie like moby dick. i love it when the band all kicks back in to the last chorus or wotever!

also, we need more bass solo!! where are they?!

so i think a 5-10 minute solo bit (featuring each band member and gradually layering it up) in a 2 hour set is good for showing off musicianship and giving the lead singer a break. BUT please make it in the context of a song or something like Godfather!!

i dont really mind, but i havn't ever been to a gnr show either.

matt sorum`s drum solos really sucked....

i`m fine with guitar solos, but my dream is the entire band jamming for 10 minutes...

drum solos really need to be cut short.. mhmm mhmm

As far as I know, GN'R haven't had a drum solo in their set since 1993....  ???



/jarmo

I think the only drummer who was able to keep the listener really interested in soloing around was Bohnham.... (personal opinion)

I'm with you. I never liked that kind of stuff. ?yes it's nice that the drummer can play drums and the guitar player can play guitar but I don't need them to prove it with some pointless solo that does absolutely nothing to add to the show. It takes all the momentum out of the show in my opinion.

I've seen Brain do a couple cool drum solo's on primus videos and stuff, but they weren't 20 minutes long either. And Brain is a great drummer, whereas Sorum is merely adequate.

I think they had one at the HOB 01/01/2001.

Yeah, one minute or so..... A bit different from the Matt Sorum solo during the Use Your Illusion tour.  :hihi:




/jarmo

I could careless about drum solos,there's only 2 drum solos that I ever like when I heard them and that is John Bonhams solo in Moby Dick and Peter Criss of Kiss from the Alive!album,other than that drum solos fuckin' suck :peace:

So you'd rather have 20 minutes of silence? ??? I wouldn't.
Anyways like jarmo said there was no long drum solo on the 02 shows. why the fuss?


RIP. I guess that was something even Bonzo couldn't  have done really unless the audience were all drummers.
Nowadays if any, it has to be Brain.  : ok: (another personal opinion)

I have many Zep bootlegs, and the 15/20 up to 30 min drum solos from Moby Dick were excrutiating. Same goes for Toad, the Cream song. Bonham WAS able to keep things interesting, but just not for so fucking long...And the band played the riff of the song like one minute and were off to get a blowjob or play with mudsharks...

Anyway, there?s no way that?s happening again. If Axl needs a break or something, the whole band should play an instrumental song, or at least some bass n drums.

Or a Pittman solo. :drool:

 :hihi:

one thing i love metallica for is the dont put drum solos in the songs. lars just kicks the fuck out of u for 20 mins live. but his solos are not boaring. anyone see the live shit san dego dvd.

that's ir tight there takes the momentum right out.... it also makes a show that is really 2 hours long seem like it's so much longer.. Instead of adding two or 3 more songs you get that.. I do like an extended team instrumental of a song, just not tons of individual playing..

Matt's solos were awesome. The Brain/bucket thing was a bit boring that sossago thing that Robin done was cool, I think he should do more shit like that.


 :peace:

Ugh all the solos fucking suck! I only liked the Godfather stuff from Slash which was cool but just 25min of boring crap should never be suffered again, if Axl needs a rest then the other should sing a cover or whatever.

Oh for sure. The extended intros like on Double Talkin Jive and the extended outros like on Jungle are awesome.

Drum solos put me to sleep zzzzzz

its the same as saying Guitar solos sucks..! Each drummer have a own sound.
I would live to see Brain drum the hell out of his drumset i about 5 minutes...
But i agree they shouldent be that long. The one Matt is doing on the Tokyo
concert, is a bit too long, and gets borrrring!

The only drums solo that I like and don't makes me sleep is the Neil Peart's!!! This guy ROCKS!!!

actually judging by the new tracks, i think we would be more apt to hear a drum MACHINE solo.

The drum solo seemed even longer in person, when I saw GNR in Mpls in Jan '92 I think he did that at about 2AM, its tough to be enthused for a drum solo when you've been up for 20 hours already.

Only if you go to the Chinese DEMOcracy tour.

regardless you know that there will be drum machine on the album. they are in IRS, Better, Madagascar, There was a time, Oh My God, and probably on the others too. i dont know what axls fascination with it is.

The Slash and Buckethead solos was a much better bridge than the drum solos :smoking:

..."and last, but not least...MACHINE!!!"   :hihi:   

  Obviously, you do realize Brain's gonna rock the shit outta those drums on the final cut.   :beer:

I was gonna say the same thing, even thou i likd Matt's,  and Roger Taylor was interesting also.

It wasn't just a drum solo, but rather Buckethead's robotic dance and nunchaku (sp?) performance.

When there was a solo the main purpose of it was to give Axl a rest, and allow him to regain his voice for the remainder of the set. Do you have any idea how hard it is to sing with the intensity that Axl does for an entire show?  Try singing at the top of your lungs for even 5 minutes an you'll see what I mean...but I do have to agree with the point that most drum solo's blow. One of my favorite bands, Widespread Panic, plays an approx 15 minute solo with 2 percussionist nightly at their shows, and it bores me to tears.

Again, with them it is to rest the vocalist usually and the guitarists also. It is very hard to play guitar for 20 minutes straight, much less a few hours.

lso, we need more bass solo!! where are they?!

The bass player for Van Halen used to play some killer solo's

Yeah.  I dont recall Brain doing a solo when I saw them in '02.

As for the original question, I dont mind a drum solo if it's short and sweet.  Something like 5 minutes.  I dont mind a guitar solo being 45 minutes as long as it's someone worth listening to. (Wylde, Satch, Page, etc)

I really liked Matt's drum solo's.  He's one of the best drummers in the world.  :smoking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9E3k6oB4E&search=brain%20mantia brain mini solo

yeah that's what I was thinking.

anyhow, I think it's ok to give Axl a 5-10 minute break in the middle so he won't pass out on stage..
I like drumsolos, not Sorums one, but most as long as they're not longer than a few minutes. same goes for guitarsolos.

Playing on a roof.. Maybe he wants to be a part of Dont Cry  ::)

Aaaah.. I like Matts solo, followed by the part when Duff joins him --> the jam they used to do :beer: Yeah!

Axl's fascination is simply that he has a member the doesn't talk and plays the music.. but most importantly MR. Machine doesn't take a percentage of the cash at the end of the day.

hahahaha well put mccoy

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5492706355434944392&q=mike+mangini

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5225198386761660932&q=joey+jordison

'nuff said.  All drummers who want to solo during a concert must use this as your template.  Go!!!

Josh

I own the Use Your Illusion concert videos but did not buy them on DVD.  Maybe they'd be easier to watch that way!  The drum solo was pretty weak.  I don't think I have ever been to a concert where I loved the guitar and drum solos... the only exception is Slash performing The Godfather theme with the rest of the band gradually joining in.  Short and sweet. 
As for the new band, Bucketheads solos were actually pretty good in that he mixed up different styles and parts of his solo stuff along with covers to make something that was new and interesting every show. 
(I'm not saying that Robin is not a talented guy, but I did not enjoy his concert guitar solos even a little bit.)
On the demos, Brain seems to use a lot of loops and beats that sound like electronica, not hard rock.  If the CD sounds like that, I'd cheer for drum solo just to get a dose of a real trap set!