Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Well, it looks like it. Take a look at this Amazon UK page :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1852272422/qid=1117302707/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_9_1/202-0792923-5695860


Titled "Axl life & times of the mysterious Mr Rose", the book was written by Sorelle Saidman. According to Amazon, the provisional release date is October 6, 2005. No more details so far.

Sorelle Saidman is a journalist for MTV News and has already written a biography of Bryan Adams.

I couldn't find the book on Amazon US, so I assume it's a British-only release. Let's hope it will be better than the GN'R biographies that have been released so far. At least I have to give kudos to the originality of the title  : ok:


Thanks to Michael from GN'R France for the news.

ditto to nothingman :-\

There is some question that Mr Rose can smile in approval for this one.

I predicted this awhile back. A book release to go along with CD release.

No doubt unauthorized, I'm sure Axl would probably sue being the litigious type he is.

Not really any legal leg to stand on though..

yeah anyone can write a book about anyone... the only legal leg he would have is if it was all false.  doubt thats gonna be the case though.

Not having a case doesn't seem to bother Axl, or his lawyer ... I don't doubt there will be a lawsuit.

So we'll ahve a book that will start out like no other book in history, great story, action and characters.  Then it will just stop and we'll have 1000 pages of nothing.  Pretty much sounds like the Axl Rose story to me.

the books probably gonna tells us stuff the public already knew in the first place.

this is sad, his bio before the cd hes been working on for 7 years

There will be a bio.

One day.

Actually, i think it would be a great read if people like Elisabeth or Earl collaborated to a REAL biography, because they see Axl Rose as nobody else does, not even himself probably.

Anyhows, let's hope Sorelle ( man or woman ?) didn't go too far.. :peace:

Its about time they released something about this prick, I mean for all Ive found out about him he's had a wild fuckin life so I know a bio on him would be a great read.

Thanks for the heads up Pandora  :peace:

Anyone else getting a tad less interested after reading this?

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Saidman, Sorelle
AXL: The Life and Times of Axl Rose and Guns & Roses

Guns N' Roses is one of the most successful musical acts in history. The band's first album, Appetite For Destruction, is the best-selling debut of all time and one of the top 15-selling albums of all time, in all genres. Frontman Axl Rose is considered by many to be a modern-day, rock-n-roll Howard Hughes, responsible for not only the creation of the band, but its destruction as well.

In AXL, MTV News reporter Sorelle Saidman examines the path of destruction followed by the eccentric band leader, from his mysterious childhood, including the previously-unpublished story of his father?s murder, to his drug addiction, to his current fascination with psychics and past-life regression. Axl paid $75,000 for the exorcising of dead Led Zeppelin guitarist John Bonham, and the revelation of abuses that occurred to him in the womb. Eccentric is just one of the words used to describe AXL; psychotic is the one used most often.

Saidman has spent years researching Rose, interviewing past girlfriends, family members, and employees, as well as 40,000 pages of legal documents. Four out of the five Guns N? Roses members became junkies and/or alcoholics. Axl is merely psychotic. This is the definitive biography of a brilliant but volatile rock-n-roll star.

HarperEntertainment


Right sold: UK/Virgin
Publication: April 2006
Estimated length: 350 pages with two 8-page color inserts
Manuscript available: July 2005
Proposal available

www.harpercollins.com/BEA%202005%20Rights%20Guide.pdf (http://www.harpercollins.com/BEA%202005%20Rights%20Guide.pdf)

sounds cool to me, ax's a wild cat and a true rock star if there ever was one. :smoking:
it'd be interesting to read about his father, i remember reading an interview with axl where he said "appearently he was murdered, buried along the highway" or something like that.
i doubt axl will approve of this though, but it'll most likely come out.

i.e. he's interviewed everyone but the band members.  Great  :hihi:

I bought 'The Band that Time Forgot' and was dissapointed. An official biography is the way forward, as would be some official music, which would probably provide as much as insight as to what he's been up to as would a book...

Psychotic?  Is that Ms. Saidman's clinical diagnosis?  Or is that the diagnosis of all the armchair psychiatrists who've been acquainted with Axl Rose over the years?

Just because the reasoning behind the length of time it's taken to produce an album, along with a much lower public profile, is not understood, that does not make someone psychotic.

Ali

Well I for one am looking forward to reading it. Sounds promising! Shame its not coming out until April 2006 though!!

no, but his past behaviour raised a few eyebrows however. ::) but that's how real rock stars should be. axl is the last of his kind, and although incredibly talented, like most geniuses he is horribly misunderstood.

very Definitive....Sure enough.
 It's getting a tad interesting to see how many mistakes we'll spot in this book and if the author is psychiatrist or what?

I would much rather read an autobiography.    I would buy that in hot minute.

I'm glad SOMEONE else picked up on the fact Bonham wasn't their guitarist...? :hihi:? I'd like to exorcise Jimi Hendrix and have him play trombone...

Its only gonna be for sale in the UK? Is it possible to get a copy here in the States? Well maybe I could js get one online.  :peace:

me too, they need to take a page from motley crue's the dirt.. Amazing book written by the band

i just read on the home page about the unnofficial axl book being prosponed from october to february.mmmm is anyone thinking what im thinking.if u have any info on the book then tell us but i just thought it was a coincedence that the book be prosponed at about the same time as fortus cancels his nena shows.the way i see it axl wouldnt want a book full of "tales" being issued at the same time as "cough cough" CHINESE DEMOCRACY.i could be totally wrong.

Whos knows eh? Sounds a good enough theory to me!

i dunno, id imagine the book has been written already, maybe they left it a bit later to see what happens with the court case

Interesting theory that ya never know.

Could be. The Fortus email said it would be sometime in the erly part of the next year that we'd see CD. I know we've all heard that before, but hey.... The book is probably like "The Band Time Forgot", trying to coincide with a release date. Hope it's true.

/Kevin Miller

this seems like one of those books where the writer digs through axl's garbage and comes up with exciting tidbits such as on day 1,240 of the sessions, Axl makes a dramatic reversal and switches from peanut M&M's to regular.

That part about the exorcism of John Bonham, has anyone heard that before and does anyone know when that happend and if there was a point to it?

AXL ROSE: More Details About Unofficial Book Revealed


Sorelle Saidman, author of the upcoming unofficial book about GUNS N' ROSES' reclusive frontman Axl Rose, entitled "Axl: The Life and Times of Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses", has contacted BLABBERMOUTH.NET to clear up some of the previously published erroneous details regarding the project. Sorelle's letter reads as follows:

"Hi guys, just correcting some Amazon.com info about my book, 'Axl'.

"The book is actually being published through Harper-Collins in the U.S., no idea if Virgin's involved, but nobody's sent me any checks.

"As per the Amazon blurb, it was never scheduled for an October release, it was always scheduled for April 2006. (Whether that holds true or not I'm sure is up to the lawyers). I did NOT write the blurb that appeared on Amazon.com (rest assured, I know John Bonham is a drummer!), and the book details that Mr. Rose is NOT a drug abuser.

"I've been working on this book for six years. I worked on the Spin cover piece with Marc Spitz in 1999. My own book research was already underway, but I agreed to help in exchange for permission to use all the mag research, so the book became sort of an extension of that piece. At that time, we did over 40 interviews, and less than 5% of that material (at best) was published. I also worked on a VH1 special on [GUNS N' ROSES] in 2002 that never aired (I believe it was a pilot for a new series that died on the vine after the company was restructured), and made the same deal with them ? I retained transcripts of those interviews. Over the years I've conducted my own interviews with band personnel for my writing/research jobs with MTV, Rolling Stone and Allstar/CD Now. And since that time, I've conducted dozens and dozens of new interviews exclusively for the book, many of them with people who have never been interviewed before. I believe the count is well over 130 original sources, and I've sorted through well over 10,000 pages of documents.

"It's a very detailed portrayal of a very complicated artist, as well as the inside story of the birth and break up of the original GUNS N' ROSES, the new band and the new album, and I'm sure will provide no end of revelations, none of which can be discussed as yet.

"I've handed in most of the book. The publisher and their lawyers are going through the first draft while I continue to fact check and augment."

To pre-order a copy of "Axl: The Life and Times of Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses", visit Amazon.com.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=42808

Thanks to Angelo



/jarmo

I definitely will buy that book. Gotta be better than the Kurt Cobain bio I read anyway....

yeah, Axl would never speak 'bout himself just to get a book written by somebody else although this biography might contains some shocking truths 'bout the dude n' his childhood!, maybe it's a best seller in U.K, somehow people waste their money buyin? bullshit, maybe its author did know to how to investigate axl privately without traces just to let us see the truth, who knows!

Yet another attempt of cashing in at the expense of one of the greatest front men of all time.  Time to give it a rest.

How many different times/ways are people going to try to explain Axl's/GN'R's story?  Among the fans that still care - is there really anyone out there who doesn't know!?

The only way I could see anyone buying this book is just to hopefully obtain never-before-seen pics of Axl.  And if that's what you're looking for...http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=21589.0.

I'll be boycotting this one for sure.

Meh.. sounds better than most of the other books/ DVD's on him. I might check it out if theres still no Chinese Democracy by the time its released.

In otherwords.. i'll be checking it out.  :hihi:

this actually sounds promissing. she does seem to have gather more info on Axl than most people have. and i do remember her stories on mtv.com. i'll buy this one, it actually seems like some effort was put into it, and i'm really curious to see who she interviewed.
i guess the next logical step would be a Movie on Axl, they have one on kurt cobain in theaters right now, and the most impressive thing he did was suicide in 120 min of movie... if Axl was behind the movie i bet that would be some real entertainment

As long as I don't have to have a sharpie with me as I read it in the case of horrible grammar and spelling (ahem!!!), I'm getting it. Sometimes I wonder how some books get published...

I'm with you on that girl!!! : ok: I hate bad editing too, it pisses me off :rant: ;)

Buddy you'd be right but ya forget something special: when you're a celebrity you gotta lose your own privacy!, just cuz your fans n' the press make you rich n' famous! No one speaks ?bout simple human beings!, if everyone talks crap ?bout Axl so the guy have no choice cuz he has to admit it for being a rock star!   :hihi:

you know, at this point all I want is the real reason for the cancelled 2002 tour.  Surely if she can dig up secret information on Axl then she can find out what really happened.  It is amazing that it has almost been 3 years and we have heard NOTHING about what happened.  Who is trying to hide what?

It actually sounds pretty cool, I will probably get it.

I vaguely remember a statement made by someone, possibly Erin Everly, about Axl claiming he'd be "possessed" by some late musician. Go figure.

I hate when people try to understand a person wether making a book, making reserches etc, only to have certain idea of who he is/was. If axl doesn't want to be known, or he never spoke about his childhood memories whatever who could possible assure the information in the book is right?, only Axl. So I think if the book comes out I might read it but but I wont believe 100% of what I read.

Oh no you?re so wrong cuz you forget :

-Axl has enemies
-Axl has Old friends
-There are amazing detectives who do a good work where someone offers A LOT OF MONEY to reach what they wanna know so this way it?s so very easy to dig enough ?bout Axl just cuz ALL THOSE PERSONS wouldn't care 'bout betraying Axl all because of the money buys everything!  :hihi:

Of course no research is 100% accurate.  But how else are people supposed to learn?  Psychology is by no means an exact science.  Research must be done to understand how the brain works.  Is it all true?  No, a lot of literature out there are theories made by overpaid PhD's.  But there is still an effort being put forth to better educate society.

Giving an insight into some one's personality helps us to understand them.  It helps us to tolerate their behavior.  Who knows, maybe she will offer up some explanations that will make people (maybe even myself) understand and even accept Axl's erratic and odd behaviors. 

The reason why I bothered to write this is because this woman seems like she is actually INTERESTED in Axl's life.  That cannot be said for other authors trying to make some money off of the band's popularity.  I think she wants to release a quality product and she understands that there is an audience for it that will appreciate it.  Because of her past work on GNR related topics (Spin article, numerous MTV.com articles) I think that she genuinely wanted to learn more about Axl and wants to share that knowledge with us as well. 

I do understand, and I agree almost with her, cause she wants to know better Axl and she wants that GNR fans get that feeling too, what I mean is that I don't agree with the digging inside his life like the childhood memories or his teenage times, or anything like that cause even though for a lot of us is a mistery, perhaps this human being called Axl doesn't want the people to know, and she doesn't know that. That's my point  :peace:

I think it'll be an interesting read.  Not only that, but it seems the author is really intent on showing Axl in a positive light.  Since unfortunatley over the years since he's been away, the amount of press on Axl have been negative, for the most part.

see I wouldn't even say a positive light, just more of an unbiased light.  She will talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly.  But I have a feeling there will be no bias.

Yes, perhaps you're right.  Even though I believe and unbias opinon would be positive for Axl.  Since the majority of press have been pretty harsh on the guy.

Sorry for bumping an almost old thread, but I just found this Rolling Stone's article about Oh My God in 1999 written by Sorelle Saidman:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=168

I think her book will be good enough. She seems to have pretty good material. ;)


Edited: just find another article, this time about Vegas '01 (she gave a nice review):

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=324

Yeah she also wrote the article about Axl jamming with Gilby back in 2000, seems like everytime a big GnR story breaks she is the one who is on top of it!

Jonx

Thanks for bringin those articles up. Always nice to read. Im sure the book will be a great read.

Found it. (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=32)

Everly was asked, "Had Axl ever told you that he was possessed?

"Yes," she said.

"What did he say he was possessed by?"

"John Bonham."

Bonham, the rambunctious Led Zeppelin drummer died in his sleep after a bender in 1980. Rose denies ever saying he was possessed by Bonham.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060786698/qid=1130352879/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl/202-2222918-2219004

I know it probably does not mean anything, but I was just checking out Amazon.co.uk and it has the book down as a release date as October 2006 yet Amazon.com has it down as being released February 2006. Just wandered what this was all about?

Anyone?  Anyone?

I pre-ordered it from Amazon w/ a probable ship date of 1/22/06.
The release date says 2/1/06, but it still says pre-order today (2/1/06).

I tried to look up Harper Entertaiment (publisher) to no avail.

Anybody know what's up?

I have a feeling it's going to be delayed (cancelled?) like the book about Izzy. The fact that they don't even have the cover picture is very strange.

yeah   axl`s "friends" are probably stopping it.......   (howard weitzman......)

i just read those articles.....   i don?t think she`ll be talking shit about axl..
and i think this is interesting:


was the title "rhyiad and the bedo?ins ever confirmed?? it could`ve been called different....or it was just a working title...   maybe it`s the song "better" axl was referring to in his latest interview..... i don`t really think so, but i also don`t think that it will be released under the title "rhyiad and the bedouins"......  could someone shed some light on this?     if i remember correctly it was called oklahoma on the vegas setlist.... but oklahoma was a different song and they played rhyiad instead of it.........   but there were more setlists i guess....

  If the provisional release date is October of 05, seems Sorelle is running a few months behind.

I have always been eager to read anything related to Axl and G&R, I believe the only factual info to come out of most of them, are things that Axl or bandmembers have made known to the public themselves.  I believe Axl to be a very private person, and that if he wanted his personal life publicized, he would share it with us.  I feel the reason that we know what we do in regards to his personal life, he shared with us, due to the fact that he was being tormented by past situations at the very prime of his career, and he was struggling to deal with both, on top of the fact, there was the press making up all the shit they could as well.  It obviously pushed him to a point, where it was all just too much.  In the longrun I believe Axl had to find himself and the only way for him to do so, was to be alone.  To become a racluse.  So why do these writers keep writing these unauthorized books.  Obviously If Axl wanted us to know the personals he would have shared them long ago, and as it stands now, I don't believe his feelings have changed or he would grant an interview to these people.  I think they should hang it up.   Just my thoughts!!! :-X :-X :-X

  If the provisional release date is October of 05, seems Sorelle is running a few months behind.

That's old info. It was pushed back to Feb 2006 a long time ago.

  right on, thanks  :) :)

ok this is the vegas setlist:

Welcome to the Jungle
Mr. Brownstone
Nightrain
Think About You
Out Ta Get Me
Oh My God
My Michelle
It's So Easy
Rocket Queen
Sweet Child O' Mine
Patience
Live and Let Die
November Rain
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
The Blues
Oklahoma
Chinese Democracy
Untitled
You Could Be Mine
Silk Worms
Paradise City

actually there is oklahoma AND and untitled song........

OKlahoma was dropped, they played Rhiad instead.  Untitled was Madagascar, it made it's debut in Rio.  We've had the discussion 100 times before  ;D

Sorelle said back in October/November that the draft had been sent to editors and was going through edit/fact checking.  A book is a lot like an album.  Even if it is finished, it's still up to the publisher (or record company) to determine release.  My hunch is the book will come out when CD does.

   sorry  but this is my first post :hihi:

but why was it untitled? in rio axl seemed pretty sure to know how it`s called......

but my main question is if the title rhyiad was ever confirmed?

Well, if you listen to the Vegas boot, Axl says "This is called Rhiyad and the Bedouins" as the intro is being played.  That's the best I can give ya  :)

yes, it was on a setlist sheet.  i'll look for a picture of it.

it's was spelled "RHIAD", though.

its an intriguing name for a song

why would anyone feel that Better is Rhiad?

They didn't know the correct spelling of Riyadh? :nervous:

This link isnt working anymore?  ???

don`t know......   but i do think that the title Rhyiad and the Bedouins might only was a working title.....

Key word in that sentence is "might". No reason to believe that it is. Axl has said before that The Blues was a working title. I brought this up before and people thought I was insane and no one believed it, so why should we believe speculation of Riyadh being a working title when there is nothing to back it up? Strange how when people hear him mention a new song, they automatically think it has to be one of the songs we've already heard.

i don`t know if i made it clear. but i actually don?t belive that better is rhiad nor do i really believe that rhyiad is a working title......... but it?s a possibility    i just wanted to know if axl even mentioned the title....

Listen to the version of Rhiad from Osaka (Axl's monitor mix) - in the background, you hear two people on stage talking...Robin and I'd guess Tommy:

"What is it?"

"Rhiad"

"Ready Robin?"

-Jeff

Or you can just listen to the House of Blues show and hear Axl say Riyadh with his own mouth.

Where did you find this setlist? I guess Oklahoma was just some mistake in some review. Later, people believed it was someone from the band crew who said they would play Oklahoma, but I don't belive in this story, though.

About Madagascar, I remember that girl who was at some halloween party at Axl's house and said he showed the song to her, calling Madagascar (by that time, she talked about it on the official gnr forum on gnronline.com, but nobody believed her because people thought the title "Madagascar" was stupid and it wouldn't fit in a GN'R style).

So, I don't know about this "untlited" song, if it ever existed on the real Vegas setlist.

thats right,she said tommy stinson came to axls house and axl previewed some songs to her and one was titled madagascar.

the setlist is from rollingstone.com

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I've never heard of it.

I ordered it from Amazon, but for now it seems to be delayed (cancelled?)

should we believe in some mad writter who wanna say lies 'bout AXL?  Axl isn't so fucking idiot to tell his life that way  ::)

The book is not cancelled, but delayed.   The plan was to cover the lawsuit, then send it to the press, but that has been delayed (the lawsuit, as we all know).   Nonetheless, it will be the most detailed look at the band/Axl yet to hit the press.  It will be well worth the wait!!  Sorelle is a pro!!  : ok:

If it was me, not offering Harper Collins any advice, I would release it in the Fall, and take advantage of the X-mas shopping season.

Bumping an old thread up, because there seems to be yet another release date for the book. Big surprise, it got pushed back. Amazon UK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0060786698/026-3420781-3594057?v=glance&n=266239) now lists it coming out in July, 2007. Saidman might actually have CD precede the book, thus providing a closing chapter.

I found this in the VR section (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=43256.msg875155#msg875155):

New York, New York
edited by Valerie Block
12 February 2007
Crain's New York Business


Rocker gets booked

Fans of guns n' roses may never hear a new album from the defunct band, but at least they'll be able to read about their favorite legendary rockers.

Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash (right) just sold his autobiography to HarperCollins. The British born, California-raised ax man will work with writer Anthony Bozza, who helped drummer and carouser Tommy Lee pen his memoir, Tommyland.

The manuscript is due to be delivered in the fall.

Slash, born Saul Hudson, left Guns N' Roses in 1996 following a split with group leader Axl Rose. He went on to form the band Velvet Revolver.

A HarperCollins spokeswoman confirmed Slash's deal.

Also in the works is W.A.R.: The Unauthorized Biography of W. Axl Rose, by British rock writer Mick Wall. The book is due out in Britain in the fall and is currently making the rounds of New York publishers.

``[Guns N' Roses] is a great story, and it's not finished yet,'' says Mr. Wall's U.S. agent, Barbara Zitwer, referring to the unfinished album that Mr. Rose has been working on for years.


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I personally find it a bit weird that Harper-Collins doesn't bother to note of the press of their upcoming 'sister book' , the Axl biography. I'd imagine they'd be having rather combined target groups.

Anybody know anything about the current status?

I'm sure if they would target them together because some people might not have the scratch to buy tehm both at once (a hard cover is probably $20); They can release them months apart and get the one-two financial punch. JUst my opinion.

How late into the night was she up thinking about that title?

I was merely expecting something like "HarperCollins will also publish Sorelle Saidman's AXL, a book on the GNR frontman", or something like that. Now its Mick Wall's book, that's getting the push.