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Title: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: RichardNixon on March 02, 2006, 06:31:43 PM
Wouldn' that cost the consumer like, 25-30 bucks? Is that a wise move for a comeback album?

Jayme says the party eventually moved to Trucks? tour bus, where Rose produced a CD and previewed some of ?Chinese Democracy? -- which the singer said will be sold as a 3-disc collection.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Chief on March 02, 2006, 06:32:59 PM
I'm pretty sure this isn't referring to a triple album but 3 separate discs released at different times.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Markus Asraelius on March 02, 2006, 06:33:39 PM
This has already been posted.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: RichardNixon on March 02, 2006, 06:33:51 PM
sold as a 3-disc collection


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: faldor on March 02, 2006, 06:35:04 PM
I doubt they'd release them as a 3 disc set.  The Use Your Illusions were released simultaneously but you could buy them separately.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: RichardNixon on March 02, 2006, 06:36:28 PM
This has already been posted.

Yes, this thread is to ponder if it is a wise move to reintroduce yourself with a three disc set. While we will no doubt drool over the prospect, it is asking a lot of the consumer, who may not even be that much of a fan. Will some pimply faced dweeb that works for Dominos Pizza want to shell out 30 dollars for a CD?


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 06:37:06 PM
maybe there will be a chinese democracy cd with 13 tracks (for the cheap bastards) and another one with 3-discs(for da fans) ???? :hihi:


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Buddha_Master on March 02, 2006, 06:37:24 PM
This has already been posted.

Yes it has...but its a serious topic so they won't close it.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on March 02, 2006, 06:38:56 PM
Recalls at a drinking party on a tour bus after tequilla shots at the bar - perhaps he heard Axl wrong - I seriously doubt this


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: killingvector on March 02, 2006, 06:40:32 PM
I haven't even heard evidence that CD will be a double album set. Axl mentioned a follow up approximately a year or so after CD drops.

I expect 13-14 tracks on a single album. Those additional ten songs intrigue me. I hope Axl honors that promise.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: faldor on March 02, 2006, 06:40:38 PM
System of a Down released a double disc last year, one in May and one in November. ?I'd expect something more like that, or at least the option to purchase the discs separately not as a whole package. ?Why are we talking about 3 discs? ?We're getting a little carried away. ?Let's wait until we hear at least ONE is coming out.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: RichardNixon on March 02, 2006, 06:45:44 PM
I can understand why a three-disc set may be the ideal way for Axl to realize his artistic vision. Some great works need to be heard in their entirety, like Jimi Hendrix's "Electric Lady Land" which is an opus, a spiritual journey.

If Axl has spent 10+ years perfecting his vision, and is ready to unleash his life's work, why would or should he be stifled by having to limit his creative output to a mere 70+ minutes?

Still, from a marketing perspective, it may not be a good idea. Even if U2 or Radiohead released a triple album, sales would be hurt by the cost.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Axlfreek on March 02, 2006, 06:49:37 PM
chinese democracy will sell big. i doubt it will matter.  : ok:


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on March 02, 2006, 06:50:21 PM
Well, he mentioned this idea a few years agot at a European concert...but in the sense of releasing 1, then another, then another one. ?I would assume that plan is still on.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Axl_GNR on March 02, 2006, 06:52:03 PM
I think a 3 CD collection could sell really well.  As long as the music is great, which it will be, then people will shell out the cash.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: axlsalinger on March 02, 2006, 06:53:54 PM
Guy probably said "How's Chinese Democracy coming along?"
Axl said "Good, it's gonna be 3 CD's".

The guy probably thought he meant a 3-cd compilation, but Axl said a long time ago he wants to put out CD, then another album a year later, then another album a year after that.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Grouse on March 02, 2006, 06:57:40 PM
This has already been posted.

Yes, this thread is to ponder if it is a wise move to reintroduce yourself with a three disc set. While we will no doubt drool over the prospect, it is asking a lot of the consumer, who may not even be that much of a fan. Will some pimply faced dweeb that works for Dominos Pizza want to shell out 30 dollars for a CD?

Is that one cd? or three cd's you are talking about? 'cause if I were to buy a 3 disc set man I would need to fork over...ehm let say 60 euro's/65 dollars :nervous:


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: BLS-Pride on March 02, 2006, 07:09:27 PM
If a 3 CD set is release together I'd still buy it first day it drops. But I think they will be released months a part not so much years.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: RichardNixon on March 02, 2006, 07:09:48 PM
Sorry, I'm not too familiar with the whole Euro/US currency equivalent. If "Chinese Democracy" were a three-disc set, I am guessing it would be about 30 US dollars, when if first went on sale, and then would be about 35+.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: ElNonoPololo on March 02, 2006, 07:19:50 PM
As a COMMERCIAL comeback, it would be disappointing. Not a failure, I suppose, but there are many casual buyers that would be put off by the price/sheer lengh of the whole thing.
I think it is very obvious that it just wouldn?t sell as much, and it would be harder to promote than a single album. Besides, an album is like 80 mins of music, more than plenty for a sprawling musical experience. Most classic double albums are shorter- Exile on Main St., Blonde On Blonde, Electric Ladyland- but still quite epic journeys.

My opinion? A single album of cherry-picked material would be best.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: mega_music on March 02, 2006, 07:22:00 PM
I doubt we will see a 3 CD set.
However I could see a multi-disk release just for the fact it has taken so long for us to get Chinese, and it would shut up the assholes who will complain it took way to long to make Chinese.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 02, 2006, 08:49:07 PM
This has already been posted.

Yes, this thread is to ponder if it is a wise move to reintroduce yourself with a three disc set. While we will no doubt drool over the prospect, it is asking a lot of the consumer, who may not even be that much of a fan. Will some pimply faced dweeb that works for Dominos Pizza want to shell out 30 dollars for a CD?

The pimply faced dweeb probably has never  heard of GNR since the last time the band released anything he  was about 10. So no, the answer  is no.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: JB9988 on March 02, 2006, 08:53:23 PM
dude i would pay 50 bucks for a 3 disc set, there would be so many different kinds of music on it would be amazing. I hope they do that.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: GnR-NOW on March 02, 2006, 09:29:50 PM
i just hope they get something out soon, whethers its just 1 disc or 3


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: scawl18 on March 02, 2006, 09:39:14 PM
Would love 3 cd's' at one time!


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: oneway23 on March 02, 2006, 09:40:59 PM
Let's concern ourselves with 1


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: badapple81 on March 02, 2006, 10:08:02 PM
Wow, maybe the songs will be in sections like 1998-2000 etc..


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: GnR-NOW on March 02, 2006, 10:21:19 PM
Wow, maybe the songs will be in sections like 1998-2000 etc..
good point, i think it would be cool if there were time sections like 96-98, 98-2000, then have the main cd be chinese democracy


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on March 02, 2006, 10:38:07 PM
Wow, maybe the songs will be in sections like 1998-2000 etc..
good point, i think it would be cool if there were time sections like 96-98, 98-2000, then have the main cd be chinese democracy

That definintely could be.  We could see, Critter's production (97-99), RTB/Ezrin (99-2002), and Axl's production (2002-2006)?

I think, there might be advantages to a double, or triple disc set.  Obviously, the fan base is not as large as it was in 1991.  Moreover, the market is not as condusive to selling 10 milliion disc's in a year.  On the other hand, the fanbase is rabid--they will not only buy every disc that GNR releases, they will buy multiple copies, or a GH's package just to add it to the collection.

GNR, at $35 dollars a pop, will realize a huge profit margin to pay back production costs, but also have a base in N. America of about 2 million fans that will buy it, and another 5 million around the globe that will.  Sell 7 million units, at $35 a pop, and you are talking about $245,000,000!!  That would make business sense.  If the music warrants it, it might work.



Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Bad_Apple on March 02, 2006, 10:42:58 PM
who cares?  either way, I'm gonna buy it regardless...as for the rest of the population, I don't give a sh*te what happens....
me and my gnr music.....utter bliss....


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: highend88 on March 02, 2006, 10:54:27 PM
Whether it is a 1,2 or 3 disc Album, AXL has his own plan...
That's why it takes 13 years to complete..
He will only release when he is ready...
Have faith guys..

I am suspicious that the leaks come direct from GNR camp.
I think They just want to see how the fans reaction before finally releasing the album...


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: GNFNR_UK on March 02, 2006, 11:03:13 PM
I can't think of any rock bands that have released a 3 disc set  ??? At least none of the bands i'm into have.
However, I heard the Chili Peppers wanted there new album (released in May) to be a triple originally because they had so many songs but narrowed it down to a double disc instead with different bonus cuts appearing on different pressings (cashing in with this one!).
I think the best thing would be a double album really,  other bands have managed to do this and make it a success (Smashing Pumpkins,Nine Inch Nailes, even Guns themselves) and Axl clearly has the material for it.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: waxlrose1987 on March 03, 2006, 12:11:41 AM
People saying it may cost too much....Gimme a fucking break.....I would buy a 5 disc set for 100 bucks if thats what he put out....The more songs the better...We have been waiting only 12 fuckin years......Probelm with 3 disc set is didnt AXL say 26 of the 32 songs are done.....With AXL tiem frame to finish up the next 6 songs will be another 3 years


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on March 03, 2006, 01:08:40 AM
People saying it may cost too much....Gimme a fucking break.....I would buy a 5 disc set for 100 bucks if thats what he put out....The more songs the better...We have been waiting only 12 fuckin years......Probelm with 3 disc set is didnt AXL say 26 of the 32 songs are done.....With AXL tiem frame to finish up the next 6 songs will be another 3 years

Maybe he meant that 26 of the 32 were nearly completed being mixed, and that four were just beginning?


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Thorned Rose on March 03, 2006, 01:26:38 AM
No one knows what was said, so stop saying he meant this and meant that.

I would take this as a truthful thing...  what I think is going to happen now, is that it will be 3 separate albums. Not like a box set with 3 together but 3 separate albums.... released at the same time we don't know...

"collection" I would say it will be 3 cds at the same time though or very close to the same time (within a year max)

That's what I think...

I'm becoming thrilled with all this news...


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: RichardNixon on March 03, 2006, 01:35:58 AM
I am against the 3-disc idea. Too many great songs will be burried, like with UYI. Three dsics would mean 3 hours of music. Outside us nutswingers, who else will get that involved with the album? I think Prince had a 3-disc set that is now sitting in the cutout bin next to "Native Tounge."

I think he should release them one at a time.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Chief on March 03, 2006, 01:38:34 AM
I am hoping there is a cd with bonus tracks or whatever like he mentioned in 02.
anything bonus to get more people to buy it, that's what i'd do!!!


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: McDuff on March 03, 2006, 01:44:56 AM
I think Axl will release 1 album at a time,that would make more sense than 3 at once.See if he releases one at a time when us fans wear out the first album he'll release another one and so on. :peace:


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: awolgnr on March 03, 2006, 02:09:38 AM
Bela Fleck and the Flecktones released a three cd set a couple years ago, and also offered a single disc "highlights of the set".  Alice in Chains released their boxed set but also released "best of the box" in a single disc.  One choice satisfies the die-hards and the other choice satisfies the casual fans.  GNR could do that. 

I think it would be smarter to do what System of a Down did...    GNR could release two 13 track CDs six to eight months apart, and tour the whole time.   Release three singles off of each album and just keep the momentum going.

I also wonder about the possibility of GNR doing what Motley Crue did.  Release a two disc "Best of plus" set with all their radio singles, favorite album tracks, b-sides (Shadow of Your Love, Whole Lotta Rosie), a few polished up demos (Cornshucker, Ain't Goin' Down) and their soundtrack songs (Sympathy for the Devil, Oh My God).  If that's not enough, then add two or three brand new songs that will not be on the new CD to whet everyone's appetites.  That would have been a better idea than the half-ass Greatest Hits that Geffen insisted on releasing.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: supaplex on March 03, 2006, 02:16:13 AM
let's be resonable guys. a 3-cd box would be really stupid. besides the hardcore fan base no kid is going to spend a lot of money on three cds from a guy his daddy and mommy used to listen to. no chance in hell they will sell millions of albums cos it would be too expensive. and after that you wouldn't get any new material for a very long time again.
but i don't think we should talk about the time after the cd release. let's hope it will come out.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: badapple81 on March 03, 2006, 02:31:54 AM
Could be say a 3 disc set with sections as I said like 1998 to 2000.. or perhaps 'The Moby Sessions' with a couple of songs (just as an example, I know he only did like a song or something).

Or the 26 songs Axl mentioned with the rerecorded AFD.

I personally don't know about this. As long as it is the same price as a regular album. In some stores Live Era is like $40.00 Australian compared to around $25.00 to $30.00 for a new release.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: supaplex on March 03, 2006, 02:44:31 AM
the sections with the different producers would be great to hear but just for the people who waited so long for this. it's not that interesting for the people outside the gnr camp. maybe axl could do the different producers thing for the fans. i think that it would be a nice thing to do fot the people that kept hoping and supporting guns all this time.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Skunk on March 03, 2006, 03:13:08 AM
i'm just glad he mentioned 3 discs again, after the korn party i began to think that wasn't going to happen. if they really have that much quality material that's awesome. i think it's smarter to release one album at a time, and i think that's what they'll do -- but i can see how releasing a 3cd set might be appealing too.. if the material is all as good as what we've heard, it would go a long way with silencing critics and establishing itself as something special.
either way i can't wait to buy it/them.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: babydolls on March 03, 2006, 04:51:01 AM
a 3 album release over any period of time makes me wonder how long their live sets are gonna be.  guns could play some long gigs as it was back in the day - but with this new stuff, thats a lot more songs to choose from!  I've seen Bowie and the Cure do 3 hour gigs with no support before - would LOVE for that much live GnR!


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Megaguns on March 03, 2006, 04:57:09 AM
3 discs makes sense to me, Axl really wants to top everything guns did before now, So to beat UYI he has to release 3 cds.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Mikkamakka on March 03, 2006, 05:47:47 AM
3 discs makes sense to me, Axl really wants to top everything guns did before now, So to beat UYI he has to release 3 cds.

Quantity can't top quality. Next time (around 2030) he'll release a 4 CDs set?  ???


BTW since we're talking about Axl, he'd better release everything at once so we'll hear the material in this decade.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: godiva on March 03, 2006, 05:49:52 AM
Maybe it's Chinese Democracy combined with GH2 and a nice disc with scrap material or a live CD. Like a collector's item box. Then fans can choose: the box with three discs or only CD. Most people here would probably go for the three disc set, especially if the other discs contain interesting stuff, outsiders will probably buy the less expensive single disc. Would be a good marketing strategy, don't you think?


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: TWT on March 03, 2006, 05:58:01 AM
There'll probably be a limited edition of the album with a bonus disc/DVD like you get with most albums these days to assure high first week sales.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: estrangedpaul on March 03, 2006, 10:11:17 AM
He just said in the Rolling Stone interview he's working on 32 songs so he would have to release multiple albums. He said in the interview the 13 songs had already being selected for CD. So why work on 32 - he clearly plans more than one album

This is the second time he has mentioned three CD's - the last time at a concert where he said he would release them seperately.

He said just recently only 13 songs were slated for CD - therefore no double or triple album - they will be released seperately.

I remember after the Rolling Stone interview, people were wondering what he was gonna do with 32 tracks. Mysteron, said that, according to management, Axl was working on two albums; CD and its successor.

All this evidence points to three seperate albums. This seems sensible. He has spent so much of his life working on this. If he released all at once and then tour - what will he do then. Go back to the studio and spend another ten years. Releasing them seperately allows him to take a long break from the studio.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Eternal Flaming Sword of Death... on March 03, 2006, 10:35:26 AM
Also, Chinese Democracy probably will only have 13 songs on it. That doesn't mean that it can't be part of a three cd set. CD = 2 others. Buy them separately or all together.

Maybe he wants to do like the Clash did with Sandanista! and sell a three cd set for the price of a double album?

who knows what the fucker will do?   Merck?  Doug?  Slash?    ....Axl? :)


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: gandra on March 04, 2006, 11:18:07 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=49066


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: Nytunz on March 04, 2006, 11:18:37 AM
already know that. But thanks anyways  : ok:


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on March 04, 2006, 11:43:49 AM
Like I said the three cd set does not mean all at the same time, its going to  be released over a few years time. Interscope makes the most money out of releasing three cds over 3  or so years than release all three at once.


Title: Re: New album as a 3-disc set
Post by: ppbebe on March 04, 2006, 01:06:37 PM
He just said in the Rolling Stone interview he's working on 32 songs so he would have to release multiple albums. He said in the interview the 13 songs had already being selected for CD. So why work on 32 - he clearly plans more than one album

This is the second time he has mentioned three CD's - the last time at a concert where he said he would release them seperately.

He said just recently only 13 songs were slated for CD - therefore no double or triple album - they will be released seperately.

I remember after the Rolling Stone interview, people were wondering what he was gonna do with 32 tracks. Mysteron, said that, according to management, Axl was working on two albums; CD and its successor.

All this evidence points to three seperate albums. This seems sensible. He has spent so much of his life working on this. If he released all at once and then tour - what will he do then. Go back to the studio and spend another ten years. Releasing them seperately allows him to take a long break from the studio.
Hopefully so. it also allows the fans time to digest each cd n song.

it isn't even certain that he did say 13 songs were slated for the first album, nor is it clear that there wouldn't be the other songs that they were not working on anymore then.

It is the RS web that said 13 of the 32 songs that GNR were working on then were slated for "the final album", whatever the final means.
You wouldn't find the bit on the printed version of the article.