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I.R.S. - Way To Heavy to even crack the top 10 on the "Hot 100"
Catcher In The Rye - To Long... A shorter version might be able to do some damage
TWAT - Controversy might around the title will give it some extra momentum but me and alot of my friends think the whole song is wrecked by the chorus.
Better - I've only heard demo version thats 1:20m long but it's probably the most likely to hit the top 10 but still to heavy for a #1.

What do you think?
I think "The Blues" or "Madagascar" are the most likely to hit #1 but we haven't heard the Studio version yet so I won't judge them yet. I do however, think that all Chinese Democracy singles will hit #1 on the Rock charts.

I.R.S. is my favorite by the way.  :P

thats a nice thought

I think better maddy or the blues is the way to go for a hit.. better gets my top vote radio frinedly easy to like it on teh 1st listen

The only #1 hit GnR ever had was SCOM anyway

Better, IRS, Catcher In The Rye, TWAT, could all potentially be #1 on the rock charts

yeah that is what I am talking about, modern rock or mainstream rock charts, not billboard..

I could definitely see "Better" or "The Blues" going to number 1.

Thee na na nas in CITR are horrible.

Yeah, but for some reason I could see 13, 14 year old girls eating that up and not even caring about the rest of the song.  Most #1 songs these days are utter crap anyways, so I don't really care what chart rankings the songs have as long as I like them. 

As far as the studio leaks, "Catcher In The Rye" is second only to "Better" in my view.  Awesome tune, even the "na na nas".

"I.R.S." doesn't sound heavy to me at all.  "TWAT" is a good tune but sounds too flat.

I see an edited version of "Better" hitting rock radio and tearing shit up.  Then possibly followed by "The Blues" or "Madagascar" or one of the other "Big Guns" we haven't heard yet.

I think anyone that thinks Guns is gonna just come back and all of a sudden have 3 or 4 #1 singles on an album full of 6 minute songs is crazy. There will be hits, but I seriously doubt a #1, especially in America. Hard Rock is not popular music right now at least in the States. By the way I'm not being an asshole basher, it just isn't gonna happen. Honestly I'd be surprised if it even hits #1 on album sales charts.

No way in hell it's not #1 when it debuts.  This album will sell at least 500,000 copies the first week just based on anticipation alone

If any song does it, it'll be Better.

I agree on all but Better. It  is not radio friendly.
but Maddy and The Blues are the best  bet. Even Chinese Democracy.
So the point is that there  are several  possibilities, but #1 is probably too much to ask. I would say top 10 is  achievable.

It will definetly debut at number 1.
If VR did then Guns will do it to.

madagascar [not maddy!!] has no1 potential. also since they played it at the vma's, so a lot of people heard it, and they'd recognizue it when it'd come out as a single

it will debut as #1 unless some fucking big rapper(50 cent or nelly or not rapper usher) debuts then too it willhave a challenge but i seriously doubt more then 2 #1s if even one i really doubt 1 #1

As someone who works in the radio industry (although I wouldn't call myself an "expert", just someone with knowledge of what people like), the only song I can see with serious top 10 aspirations is "The Blues". It's got a vintage GNR vibe to it, but also some really cool modern elements, and it's an easy song to sing to. It's got enough ingredients to gain fans of modern rock as well as older rock.

Guys.. first of all how can you say better is too hard? secondly theres only 1:20 heard of the song,.. who knows if there isnt some SCOM of NR  type solo lingering in the 3 or 4 minute mark of the song? thats right think about it.. a song that good deserves a DIRTY solo.. the only thing is, the solo would have to be one like no other.. like people will be jamming to this song and hear that solo and just be amazed like how you feel when u hear SCOM or Estranged or NR.. u know? thats the key to these songs.. AXL could make a hit with any band playing behind him cuz of his vocals.. but in order to create a  monster track.. a solo is needed... thats that.

Madagascar, the blues, etc cant measure up to the old GNR.. and ure right only SCOM made the #1 mark.. so unless TWAT gets a make over or better has a surprise ending for us.. there arent many #1's... but im fine withthat... cuz im not too much of a comercial fan  n e ways.. people are gonna buy this CD for the name.. i love the music.. thats all i ask for 13 great songs... not 13 #1's cuz ive heard #1 songs i hate.. Brittney Spears... Backstreet Boys anyone? lol.... Even Bands like nickelback and all the EMO crap.. a new GNR album just means salvation for us..

Why do you and about 3 or 4 others keep saying that? Do you bother to read any threads here before making your judgements? The whole damn song leaked last week.

The Blues could definitely hit the Top 10 on the Top 40 pop charts, it's not a stretch.  It's not too long, very catchy, a song that a lot of people can relate to, the lyrics are clear and easy to understand and sing along with, and it has the old GnR vibe with some modern twists

Who gives a fuck? (No Offense)

The people who replied  :smoking:

Dear Da_Pope:

Go back to the fucking Matt Sorum, I mean, VR board!! You don't know your fucking dick from your asshole.? You dig??

Matt Sorum=Yoko Ono without a soul.

Music is not about charts, it's about soul, something you would have no clue about.? VR=dead!

CITR can be a #1 hit easily.

Well after a grammy, successful tours, and a multi-platnium album, VR must be doing something right.

If VR got att that.. GNR is gonna get about 4 times that.

hehehe

Well Axl will have to get the album out first.  :-\

Grammys dont mean shit. AFD never got a Grammy does that mean that Contraband is better than AFD  ::)

Sorry, just had to vent at the 10 post wonders that insist upon this albums failure, in a presumtuous, suggestive manner.

Did I say it was better?

Point is winning a grammy does not mean anything, a lot of shitty bands and albums have won grammys

I know what ya mean but I was just referring to some of VR's accomplishments.

Ha... go back to the other thread and read what I fucking read you fucking moron.
I know music ain't about chart position and record sales... I'm just saying that there might be no #1 hits out of these leaks.

Yeah I agree,but does it really fuckin' matter if any of the songs go #1?I know it doesn't matter to me,if some people don't like this album then they can go listen to some of that fuckin' shit that's out there today that some people call music :beer:

Nov Rain was never #1 either. Most good albums dont have #1 hit singles since most rock bands dont put out singles. Singles are for shit R and B and boy/girl bands that make music that they think people want to hear. Axl makes its for himself.

Umm... Did I say November Rain was #1?
And if Axl wants a shot in hell of recreating past glories he better promote the fuck out of this album and release a shitload of singles. This is a new generation... Singles are what makes or breaks a bands chances at mainstream success. Remember they lost alot of fans when Slash and co. quit the group (I don't know one guitarist that is crazy about Axl + Friends like you guys are) and the long ass down time didn't help either.

Again, like I said before, #1 singles dont mean anything. It does not show how good a song is.

I know that. But look at the title.
We're discussing the possibility of Radio success whether it matters or not, thats what we're discussing.

Amen to that!!! :rant:

Here is the list of nominees for Best Hard Rock Performance in 1990

Aerosmith - "Love In An Elevator"
Great White - "Once Bitten, Twice Shy"
Guns N' Roses - G N' R Lies
Living Colour - "Cult Of Personality"
Motley Cr?e - "Dr. Feelgood"

Guess who won that shit?

yep you're right!! :yes: ? Living Colour - "Cult Of Personality" huh? :-\ WTF???? Who? (I mean i know who they are but what-the-fuck-ever :rant: )

That was the last year i watched the Grammy awards

AFD was never ever nominated, nor was UYI2

It's also alot easier to stand out from the crap in the Hard Rock catagory. I still hate the fact that we let abunch of twelve year old girls decide what is and isn't popular.

hehe i know one who would love to get back with Axl... his name is Izzy Stradlin.. Too bad Axl Turned him down at his mansions gates:S.... imagine those two hooked up... Izzy would have been lead guitars if slash didnt come along...

Hmmm. ?Same could be said for...........Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys!!! They have had huge tours and won grammies, are they in your cd player right now? ?because that is what you seem to judge quality on. ?Gee, ?GN'R with Slash and the rest never won a grammy, so VR is obviously superior to the original lineup. and so is britney spears and kid rock and every other manufactured piece of shit on the music scene. ?Grammy nods, Platinum records don't mean a goddamn thing. ?If you need to use that to defend your point, you may as well not even post because you lose all credibility. ? Congratulations, you just constructed an argument with absolutely no merit!

November Rain was #1 in Columbia for 60 weeks.


None of the leaks will get to #1 imo at least top 10/20 though.



Will you people stop with your blah blah fucking blah CRAP.

VR SuX oMg aXL wILL rUlE TeH WoRLd.


You can like both NuGnR & VR (YES it is possible to like both). Both new bands are nothing compared to the original GnR but I don't care I'll still support both bands because I like both.

That's my opinon, you don't like it hey fine, you don't like NuGnR or VR then good for you, but when you go around comparing the bands with immature shit it just makes yourself look like an arse.

What is wrong with Maddy ? I kinda like Maddy, it's like a cute nickname given with love to someone you adore.  :hihi:

nothing vr did means anything, but when cd wins something it'll be celebrated like crazy here... Remember everyone that wins a grammy because the music scene is watered down ,when axl wins one it's because he was a genius :rofl:

I know dave you were one that was saying grammy's mean nothing when the vr section was happy, or top single in mainstream rock  or modern rock charts means nothing... SO lets ee if one of the new songs goes to the same place if you'll be saying ah who cares anyone can do it..

Im not sure bout a number 1 hit on the billboard charts since SCOM is the only number 1 but i am positive that madagascar wouldve hit number 1 on the mainstream rock chart and IRS reached #49 on a national radio trade magazine chart and it was a fuckin demo.

better would be number 1 on mainstream as well

i don't think one of the leaked tracks will be an #1 in the US. the album itself of course. the tracks are awesome, but nowadays its not easy to get a number 1 single if doesn't sound like the typical melting pot which can be found in the charts (not only in the US).

i just wonder why some of you think blues or maddy will be #1. axl won't even put them out as singles.

I agree, he might have a few top hits on the rock charts, but hitting number one on the overall charts requires you to be black dude or a hot ass white chick.  Last I checked, Axl was neither, but no problem, his shit is still going to sell 4 million plus, bank on it.!   :beer:

 If Dre releases Detox this fall you can be certain CD will be delayed even more. Seriously, Nothing will be able to compete with Detox, it's going to be huge.

There is no "Rock" charts or "Mainstream Rock" charts or whatever, there is just ONE charts for me, the real one: The Top 40.
The 40 best silling singles and/or albums, no matter the music style (rock, rap, hip-hop, Rn'b, pop). That's the only "real" charts for me.

the only chart that matters to me is the one in my fucking head. If i like it i don't care if the rest of the word doesn't like it, :P Fuck'em,? I'll just listen to it in my headphones :beer:

And I like both VR and GnR too!!! OMG!! :nervous: What is the world coming too?? ::)

 :hihi: :hihi: :peace:

I can believe this post....Are you stoned?? or been purposely stoned. Yessss there will hit after hit. 

I never said VR was better than the origional GNR. And as a matter of fact, I was just listening to VR in my car last nite so fuck off man. I bet that the second Axl wins a grammy or when CD goes platinum, you, and many others here, will be saying how great he is and all that crap. I never said that a grammy was sooo great but, its more than Axl has done in the last few years.


Same here, I was just trying to state that "other" people like VR. But I guess thats too much to handle for some of these Axl lovers.

Didn't "Slither" reach #1 for Velvet Revolver on the Billboard charts?  I think "The Blues" has huge potential.  That's a song that can be played on rock stations, top 40, the whole gamut.  I love'em all though.  Haven't heard CITR yet, can't find it anywhere, and only 2:26 of Better.

I think "The blues" could be #1 (faster version of course), and a shorter version of "Madagascar" (radio edit) could be #1.
"IRS" could make a Top 10.

why does the blues have to be faster?  if it was faster i think it would lose some of its energy and emotion

I agree that it will be hard to have a #1 hit but I think the album will hit # 1 at some point. Hell that crappy greatest hits CD went to # 3 if I remember correctly.

There was also a 2:09 minute version followed shortly by the full version @ 4:56.

Agreed. At least on the Rock Chart.

Well any song Gn'R releases as a single will hit #1 on the mainstream and modern rock charts... that's easy for them.

Overall charts... a top 40 would be nice.

I would gladly trade no. 1 singles for album sales. Move the product. I really could care less about placement on the charts. I hope that the album is so strong, more people decide to buy it instead of some one off singles.

VR had 2 rock number 1's

but the one that counts is the billboard top 200 and VR I dont think even cracked the top 40 on it.

They didn't. Slither got in the low 50's but thats the closest they came.

I think "Better" and a shortened "Catcher" could make number 1.

Of course, there is also many songs that we haven't heard yet - there could be some number 1's in them.

They might hit no.1 in the rock charts.  But not in the top 40.  I don't even think Nov. Rain was #1, and that song was massive.  Some songs have potential, but America is not a country that caters to rock and roll anymore.  In fact, America in 2006 is probably one of the worst places for rock and roll acts.  Europe and everywhere else digs rock much more.

I think CITR and Better could easily be hits.