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Title: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 03, 2006, 02:52:30 PM
can someone tell me the exact dates or close to when each new gnr member joined the band and exactly when guys like sunshine, navarro, & huge left.. Also how axl got these guys to join or why he chose them?


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Ignatius on March 03, 2006, 03:27:53 PM

Mike, the following link will give you the info you need. http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/history/index.html



Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: jarmo on March 03, 2006, 04:34:54 PM
There's no exact dates for all members, but maybe this will give you an idea:

Tommy Stinson:
Member of GN'R: 1998?

Robin Finck:
Member of GN'R: From mid-1997 to August 1st, 1999 and from October 2000 (?)

Richard Fortus:
Member Of GN'R Since: Summer (?) 2002

Brain:
Member Of GN'R Since: 2000

Chris Pitman:
Member Of GN'R Since: 2000

Buckethead:
Member Of GN'R Since: 2000?
Left GN'R: March 30th, 2004

Paul Tobias:
Member Of GN'R Since: 1994?
Left GN'R: Summer of 2002? -> Richard Fortus

Josh Freese:
Left GN'R: March 2000 -> Brain

Duff McKagan:
Quit GN'R: August 1997 ? -> Tommy Stinson

Matt Sorum:
Left GN'R: 1997? -> ?

Slash:
Out of GN'R: October 30, 1996

Gilby Clarke:
January, 1995?

Izzy Stradlin:
Quit GN'R: November 7, 1991 -> Gilby Clarke

Steven Adler:
Fired: July 11th 1990 -> Matt Sorum

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/bios/steven.htm




/jarmo




Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: jameslofton29 on March 03, 2006, 04:46:42 PM
Gilby Clarke:
January, 1995?


/jarmo
Jarmo, I dont have the greatest memory, but I'm pretty sure Gilby was gone in mid 1994.


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Sagolik on March 03, 2006, 05:40:28 PM
Gilby Clarke:
January, 1995?


/jarmo
Jarmo, I dont have the greatest memory, but I'm pretty sure Gilby was gone in mid 1994.

thats true.. look at behind the music and it says Gilby Clarke 91-94


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 03, 2006, 05:54:55 PM
thanks jarmo.. Definetly btm said 91-94 but it could have been late 94.. never knew richard fortus was so new.. He might not even be on a lot of those demos.. is it actually paul huge playing on these songs??


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: CAFC Nick on March 03, 2006, 06:37:44 PM
thanks jarmo.. Definetly btm said 91-94 but it could have been late 94.. never knew richard fortus was so new.. He might not even be on a lot of those demos.. is it actually paul huge playing on these songs??

Yeah Paul Huge plays on T.W.A.T (according to JamesLofton), which I am surprised at because I always thought TWAT was one of the newer songs.


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Continental Drift on March 03, 2006, 06:53:30 PM
The Wikipedia entry for GN'R shows Chris Pitman having actually joined the band in '98... it just wasn't announced until just prior to the 00-01 New Year's shows... make sense actually.... if Axl was going down the programming route... he would have gotten someone involved a lot sooner than just days before his first gig in 7 years... I think Pitman's been there for awhile. : ok:


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 03, 2006, 07:09:43 PM
the other things is what made axl choose these guys?/ I can understand like brain being friends with bucket or something to help him find a great guitar player..  Also what was their interest to join?? Old fans, just had nothing else going??


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: estranged.1098 on March 03, 2006, 11:37:10 PM
the other things is what made axl choose these guys?/ I can understand like brain being friends with bucket or something to help him find a great guitar player..  Also what was their interest to join?? Old fans, just had nothing else going??

Axl and Matt Sorum saw Robin Finck play with Cirque du Soleil and they were very impressed.


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: zombux on March 04, 2006, 02:21:46 AM
the first show listed at gnrontour.com is

01.03.84 - The Orphanage, North Hollywood, CA
notes: This band is "Rose" - Axl, Izzy [lead & rhythm guitar], Chris Weber [lead & rhythm guitar], Johnny Kreiss [drums] & Rick Holland [bass].

===
these following shows are taken from gnrontour.com

04.11.85 - Radio City, Anaheim, CA
notes: This was the first incarnation of the band, which featured Axl, Izzy, Duff, Tracii Guns & Rob Gardener. In the flyer you can clearly see Tracii Guns & Rob Gardener, not Slash & Steven. << this is the first and only show played in this lineup listed at gnrontour.com

06.06.85 - Troubador, Hollywood, CA
notes: This is the first Guns N' Roses gig that included Slash & Steven. They joined the band on this date. Tracii Guns & Rob Gardener are in the flyer for this show!

correct me if I'm wrong


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on March 04, 2006, 02:30:58 AM
Dont forget Josh Freese and Billy H left to join APC around 98/99


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: zombux on March 04, 2006, 02:37:58 AM
Dont forget Josh Freese and Billy H left to join APC around 98/99

Billy H was a sound engineer or whatever... not a regular member. about Josh, I'm not sure if he was regular member or just session musician

oh, I nearly forgot about Chris Vrenna who was a member for a short time after Matt Sorum left and before Josh Freese joined... as far as I remember


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Mikkamakka on March 04, 2006, 03:24:05 AM
Buckethead joined sometime in 1999.


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: zombux on March 04, 2006, 05:39:51 AM
Buckethead joined sometime in 1999.

according to google search, he most probably joined the band in 2000.

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Brain (and Buckethead) both joined GnR in late 2000

according to Bucketheadland FAQ http://www.bucketheadland.com/faq/faq2/FAQ_2_0.html

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11) When did Buckethead join Guns n’ Roses? Why???
Buckethead joined Guns n’ Roses in 2000 when singer Axl Rose gave him a Leatherface doll for Christmas. It is reported that he signed his contract at Disneyland. Later the band built him a chicken coop to record in.


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Origen on March 04, 2006, 05:44:28 AM
Gilby Clarke:
January, 1995?


/jarmo
Jarmo, I dont have the greatest memory, but I'm pretty sure Gilby was gone in mid 1994.

thats true.. look at behind the music and it says Gilby Clarke 91-94

Yes he was because Paul Huge played on "Sympathy for the Devil" when it was released/when he replaced Gilby in 1994.


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 04, 2006, 06:20:03 AM
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11) When did Buckethead join Guns n? Roses? Why???
Buckethead joined Guns n? Roses in 2000 when singer Axl Rose gave him a Leatherface doll for Christmas. It is reported that he signed his contract at Disneyland. Later the band built him a chicken coop to record in.

I had heard about the leatherface doll..... Sounds like with those demands he was in it for the long haul :hihi:


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Fortus on March 04, 2006, 08:16:02 AM
Buckethead joined sometime in 1999.

according to google search, he most probably joined the band in 2000.

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Brain (and Buckethead) both joined GnR in late 2000

according to Bucketheadland FAQ http://www.bucketheadland.com/faq/faq2/FAQ_2_0.html

Quote
11) When did Buckethead join Guns n? Roses? Why???
Buckethead joined Guns n? Roses in 2000 when singer Axl Rose gave him a Leatherface doll for Christmas. It is reported that he signed his contract at Disneyland. Later the band built him a chicken coop to record in.
I think that Buckethead joined the band in 1999 or at the begin of 2000, cause Josh Fresse statedt that he played with Buck


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: zombux on March 04, 2006, 08:23:53 AM

I think that Buckethead joined the band in 1999 or at the begin of 2000, cause Josh Fresse statedt that he played with Buck

I'm not sure... Buckethead brought Brain in GNR or Brain brought Bucket? if the first is true, then you could be right


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Neemo on March 04, 2006, 10:51:20 AM
Gilby Clarke:
January, 1995?


/jarmo
Jarmo, I dont have the greatest memory, but I'm pretty sure Gilby was gone in mid 1994.

thats true.. look at behind the music and it says Gilby Clarke 91-94

Yes he was because Paul Huge played on "Sympathy for the Devil" when it was released/when he replaced Gilby in 1994.

But he wasn't offically released until '95 right? I think those are the dates that Jarmo gives when possible, the offical announcement of their arrival/departure


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on March 04, 2006, 11:21:35 AM
Dont forget Josh Freese and Billy H left to join APC around 98/99

Billy H was a sound engineer or whatever... not a regular member. about Josh, I'm not sure if he was regular member or just session musician

oh, I nearly forgot about Chris Vrenna who was a member for a short time after Matt Sorum left and before Josh Freese joined... as far as I remember

Billy was the Chris Pittman of the band when he was in it.


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Nytunz on March 04, 2006, 11:23:49 AM
Dont forget Josh Freese and Billy H left to join APC around 98/99

Billy H was a sound engineer or whatever... not a regular member. about Josh, I'm not sure if he was regular member or just session musician

oh, I nearly forgot about Chris Vrenna who was a member for a short time after Matt Sorum left and before Josh Freese joined... as far as I remember

Billy was the Chris Pittman of the band when he was in it.

Vrenna was apart of GNR? I dident know that, more interesting NIN info..
Anyway. Billy was guitar engineer. Dont know if he did more then that, but some says he played on the
early verson of Chinese Democracy. dont know if thats bullshit...


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Neemo on March 04, 2006, 11:29:20 AM
Dont forget Josh Freese and Billy H left to join APC around 98/99

Billy H was a sound engineer or whatever... not a regular member. about Josh, I'm not sure if he was regular member or just session musician

oh, I nearly forgot about Chris Vrenna who was a member for a short time after Matt Sorum left and before Josh Freese joined... as far as I remember

Billy was the Chris Pittman of the band when he was in it.

Vrenna was apart of GNR? I dident know that, more interesting NIN info..
Anyway. Billy was guitar engineer. Dont know if he did more then that, but some says he played on the
early verson of Chinese Democracy. dont know if thats bullshit...

Didn't Billy Howerdell write Mer De Noms, in his spare time with GnR? :hihi: Billy formed APC, he didn't 'Join" them :P


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Nytunz on March 04, 2006, 11:36:34 AM
Dont forget Josh Freese and Billy H left to join APC around 98/99

Billy H was a sound engineer or whatever... not a regular member. about Josh, I'm not sure if he was regular member or just session musician

oh, I nearly forgot about Chris Vrenna who was a member for a short time after Matt Sorum left and before Josh Freese joined... as far as I remember

Billy was the Chris Pittman of the band when he was in it.

Vrenna was apart of GNR? I dident know that, more interesting NIN info..
Anyway. Billy was guitar engineer. Dont know if he did more then that, but some says he played on the
early verson of Chinese Democracy. dont know if thats bullshit...

Didn't Billy Howerdell write Mer De Noms, in his spare time with GnR? :hihi: Billy formed APC, he didn't 'Join" them :P

ye! That is true, Maynard gets more credits from APC then he deserves.. Billy is the main man behind that project  : ok:


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on March 04, 2006, 11:41:39 AM
Billy wrote stuff for gnr but axl did not use it, so he took it to APC. That is why Axl is thanked in the liner notes of APCs first album.


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: Neemo on March 04, 2006, 11:48:05 AM
ye! That is true, Maynard gets more credits from APC then he deserves.. Billy is the main man behind that project? : ok:

I even have an interview somewhere with Billy and Maynard and Maynard explicitly says that it is Billy's project not his, but people seem to ignore those kinds of things.

For some reason, in the eyes of the general populace, a band always is constructed and ran by the singer. but that's not necessarily true :no:

Billy wrote stuff for gnr but axl did not use it, so he took it to APC. That is why Axl is thanked in the liner notes of APCs first album.

really?! I did not know that. that's cool : ok:

I just assumed it was because they were allowed to use Axl's studio to record it (I think that's true, I'm not 100% though), or they learned a shitload about writing/recording from Axl or that they were able to fund the project cuz of what Axl's paid them or something :hihi:


Title: Re: help with some new gnr trivia (when each guy joined/left
Post by: zombux on March 04, 2006, 12:00:06 PM
it's amazing what kind of stuff was written and then used because Axl didn't want it... first Snakepit album, first APC album, first Black Label Society album...