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Title: North American Tour question...
Post by: Chief on March 02, 2006, 02:49:27 PM
Who thinks when they come back to NA that they will play Vancouver and Philly again?

Will they do a free show? what do you think their options are?


discuss.


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: Gunner17 on March 02, 2006, 02:54:12 PM
Hahaha a free show? Wow, really optomistic are we? I highly doubt they will do a free show!


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: godiva on March 02, 2006, 03:13:01 PM
It would be really cool if they did a free show. Remember: those Philly fans never even got as much as a statement for what actually happened and they got screwed over big time. I think the band needs to make a gesture towards them. I wonder how much difficulty they have with Clear Channel after the tour was plugged last time. So far, we only have European tour dates. Must be one hell of a negotiation with extremely clear contracts. I think the conditions under which the band can perform in Philly will be a decisive factor in all of this. Don't think that these venues will be happy to allow the band to perform without some very strict rules about showing up and showing up on time and very big fines if these conditions are broken.

My best guess is that they will either skip Philly altogether or do a show (paid) like any other with maybe Axl ranting on stage about the aborted tour in 2002.


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: DizzyReed63 on March 02, 2006, 03:18:31 PM
A free show in Philly is definitely the way to go.

Show the fans he actually cared/cares.


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: J? on March 02, 2006, 03:19:20 PM
Um they should do Vancouver first thanks


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: kunzerd on March 02, 2006, 03:40:45 PM
i remember a long time back one of the guitarists, i dont remember which one (not buckethead) said that they were aware of the bad feelings they caused in philly and that the band owed everyone big time and planned on eventually doing something special for them once the ball got rolling again on the GNR front. so i guess all we have to do is wait and see if clear channel will let them play, or even the city, because they were banned from philly after that incident.

i was there. it sucked, and yet it was one of my best concert experiences. strange.

no word on canada though. i guess its 'f the cunucks.


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: GnR-NOW on March 02, 2006, 03:41:44 PM
For a NA tour to work, they need to do a hell of a lot of promoting and have CD released before the tour starts.  Nothing will happen in NA if CD isnt releases


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: kunzerd on March 02, 2006, 03:47:17 PM
agreed.

without CD this will be the last we hear of GNR.


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: Eclipsed107 on March 02, 2006, 03:56:51 PM
or even the city, because they were banned from philly after that incident.

No they weren't, Gn'R was never banned from Philly, WMMR just boycotted their music for a couple weeks.  It was lame.

i remember a long time back one of the guitarists, i dont remember which one (not buckethead) said that they were aware of the bad feelings they caused in philly and that the band owed everyone big time and planned on eventually doing something special for them once the ball got rolling again on the GNR front.

I remember that too.. it made me real happy to read.  (I think it was Tommy who said it..)  I'm not asking for a free concert or anything, but maybe an extened concert or a song or 2 that's never been played before (something new, or something old).. you know, just something special that no other city gets.. we diserve it.  Vancouver deserves something special too, but they knew about the cancelation before they were alowed into the building, and they actually got a reason why it happened.

We all went in thinking that we were going to see Gn'R (I even bought tickets for the next night, because there were 2 philadelphia shows!) and then we get some lame ass "A band member is sick" comment.  Then the riot happens, and here we are just over 3 years later and we still haven't heard anything. >:(


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: Sterlingdog on March 02, 2006, 04:06:33 PM
Aren't they still in litigation about the Philly show?  I just wonder if they would consider it a smart legal move to give a free show to make up for the incident there, since they aren't going to want to admit wrong doing while the lawsuit is still going.  Even Vancouver, if I remember correctly, Axl said he could have and would have made it, and blamed the venue for the cancellation.  So I'm not sure they are going to now say "sorry" if they don't consider it their fault. 


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: godiva on March 02, 2006, 04:12:05 PM
What is their fault though is that those Philly fans (i do feel their pain) never got a proper explanation for what happened. I don't know why that show was cancelled, so I'm not saying the band (or Axl specifically) should apologize, but an explanation would go a long way.


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: neon2002 on March 02, 2006, 04:14:00 PM
Who thinks when they come back to NA that they will play Vancouver and Philly again?

Will they do a free show? what do you think their options are?


discuss.

What about Montreal & St. Louis from the Use Your Illusioins Tour? Both of those cities got VERY Short shows followed by a Riot.

I believe the band is still banned from Montreal and that's why they played Toronto, London & Vancouver in Canada instead of Toronto & Montreal which are the 2 biggest cities in Canada.


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: Sterlingdog on March 02, 2006, 04:15:32 PM
What is their fault though is that those Philly fans (i do feel their pain) never got a proper explanation for what happened. I don't know why that show was cancelled, so I'm not saying the band (or Axl specifically) should apologize, but an explanation would go a long way.

I don't disagree, but I don't think they can say anything when there is an ongoing lawsuit. 


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 04:15:39 PM
I'd worry about them having a tour in the first place, or even showing up at these supposed festivals for that matter ...

Hell, worry about them figuring out how to issue a press release.

Just in case Axl & Merck need to figure out how to get started, I recommend:

(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4789/00prkitl7oh.jpg)

: ok:



Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: kunzerd on March 02, 2006, 04:17:24 PM
i also had tickets for both shows, and for washington on monday (front row center, that pissed me off).

why was the whole our cancelled? was that a gnr decision or clear channel?


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: kunzerd on March 02, 2006, 04:18:55 PM
I'd worry about them having a tour in the first place, or even showing up at these supposed festivals for that matter ...

Hell, worry about them figuring out how to issue a press release.

Just in case Axl & Merck need to figure out how to get started, I recommend:

(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4789/00prkitl7oh.jpg)

: ok:





well played


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: neon2002 on March 02, 2006, 04:19:01 PM
I'd worry about them having a tour in the first place, or even showing up at these supposed festivals for that matter ...

Hell, worry about them figuring out how to issue a press release.

Just in case Axl & Merck need to figure out how to get started, I recommend:

(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4789/00prkitl7oh.jpg)

: ok:



And how about learning how to update the "Official" Website?
 ???


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: Chief on March 02, 2006, 04:36:01 PM
probably clear channel.  no one knows the entire story at least none of us do yet...

and yes I am assuming the album is out before they even think about touring in the US.  that would just be dumb!




i also had tickets for both shows, and for washington on monday (front row center, that pissed me off).

why was the whole our cancelled? was that a gnr decision or clear channel?


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: Eclipsed107 on March 02, 2006, 04:36:56 PM
i also had tickets for both shows, and for washington on monday (front row center, that pissed me off).

why was the whole our cancelled? was that a gnr decision or clear channel?

It hasn't been said yet.. and may never be said. :-\

There's appairently some lawsuit going on between Gn'R and CC tho, but who really knows.


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: Drew on March 02, 2006, 07:26:40 PM
What about Montreal & St. Louis from the Use Your Illusioins Tour? Both of those cities got VERY Short shows followed by a Riot

I may be wrong, but didn't Axl say that he would never perform another concert in St. Louis again?


Title: Re: North American Tour question...
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 02, 2006, 09:06:16 PM
It has nothing to do with being cool or giving back to the fans in the cities that were screwed (by the way, if that were the case, all of the cities post 12/6/02 should have free concerts  to make up for cancelled  shows). GNR should do some free  concerts  to attract a new fan base and showcase their new music. Aside from the fanatics on this site, 99% of music fans have no idea what GNR is up to or  what their  sound is today. So free concerts would be a marketing strategy to attract new fans and create some buzz so that venues  will be more than one-half full.