Here Today... Gone To Hell!

how many think that Axl shoulda just quit while he was ahead and let the original GnR retire with some dignity instead of coming up with the new "GnR"

For Sure I think it's wrong carrying on with the new GN'R  He shouldn't be allowed to call it GN'R ,It isn't not anymore It's Axl and his backing Band :P

i like the new GN'R definitely though it's debatable whether it should be called GN'R.

Shoulda let it rest

Axl dosn't know when to let things go he Keeps thinking that he can recreate 1987 Well I got news for him it ain't gonna happen >:( >:(

this current line-up is GNR and is called GNR even if 3 stupid "fans" doesnt think it is...
sad but true! 

"old gnr" are a closed story. we all loved it, but it's finished.

now there are actual Guns N Roses and Velvet Revolver.

and someone needs to pacify with this.

^^Yeah, I'll take VR over GnR these days

I'd Echo that Vr are 100 times or more better than New (Not) GN'R

so go to a VR board and talk about those pathetic hungry for money ex members of GNR.. and dont come here talkin shit about the band must love...

Just coz a band decide to release an album once in a while and turn up and play concerts they promise to play, does not make them money-hungry. That just makes them professional musicians.

Ya... I hate how Slash invented that stupid new way to steal money from the fans... You know, Showing up for concerts.

 : ok:

make that 4 stupid "fans"  - you can include me

maybe if slash and duff wouldn't have gave up the rights to the gnr neme you would all be happy. you care more about the name of the band than the music. and i think that sucks. a lot. we have two bands instead of one and all you do is bash one or another. they chose to go separate ways and one of them got the name. if velvet were called gnr you would have the axl fans yellin thats not gnr. you people just won't let it go. and it's sad cos we're all here because of the music.

I think all of this is a no brainer... Axl wanted to do his thing with or without "the others". Slash and Duff still wanted to do something after all this time... I think right now they all are getting what they want... Axl has his guns... which to me sound better than ever... Slash and Duff have VR which sounds like something they wanted to acomplish with Scott on board. To me it's all good. The both are successful; I love the New Guns... I think VR is alright... You have to think of it like a divorce anyway... the likes and dislikes of each group of people. I love Axl's voice and writing of lyrics. So I lean toward that more... Slash and Duff seem to have wanted to make a straight forward rock album. Which in old guns days is all they ever wanted... no ballads, just AFD songs. When it comes down to it I will take new Guns cause... it has Axl... he was, is and will always be the creative fire of GN'R. No matter who is in it, it will be good... he has the money and the power to get musicians like Buckethead who are argueably better than Slash. So I see it as he built a group better than the old. The way he wanted it to be... So I think I will take it for what it is and have a GNR and VR for the basis everyone is happy... we get music from them all still... Plus, how many people complained when other people changed members of a band and kept the name... Should we have changed Van Halen everytime we seen a new frontman... or changed should we change Megadeth every year to a new name when the guys come and go... no... you keep the name with the person that made it... Eddie made VH, Dave made Mega and Axl makes GN'R...

Yes..who are we to say it shouldnt..Like Axl said there were different members in the band befor the UYL line up.....people will get used to it..they have no chiose.. :peace:

Make that 5 :)

Obviously NEW GNR is Guns n roses, but... it doesnt have its original soul.. its just axl and some studio musicians...

Old GN?R, no doubt... I think Axl shouldn?t call this new band GN?R... cause it isn?t GN?R no more.

Bit late for that, dont you think?

Make that 6 ;),
honestly not kidding...

Everybody's entitled to to their opinion just because they differ from each other dosn't make one person's opinion better then the other mine just happens to be I don't like new GN'R and would rather see Velvet Revolver whether they are money grabbing or not is not an Issue for me I just prefer those guys as musicians to the new GN'r One's and I include Axl in that

first of all, no one is saying that they're not called GNR, get that straight. second of all, "3 stupid 'fans'"??? u should really learn how to count...

If you read interviews about how all that went down when they signed over the rights it was a pretty fucking BS move by Axl threatening not to go on with UYI tour if they didn't.....

I guess the other members of the band did so so they wouldn't have to cancel a world tour and piss off all their fans

Slash said in one interview a few years ago it was the only way they could get him to go on stage he said he would break up the band if they didn't ,so they comprimised to keep the band together

Exaclty, if Axl cares more about the music than the name, then why did he threaten not to go on tour unless they signed over the name?

i never meant to go back to the signing over the rights. i was trying to tell you that all this old gnr new gnr should stop. the music is important. and why do we care about who's keeping the name?
and by giving axl the rights they just postponed what was going to happen anyway in 94-95. and then the fans didn't matter.
maybe they should've never signed the rights to gnr, then they'd split up and nobody would be using the gnr name. and we would have been happy now having vr and axl rose band.
it's sad how it all went down.

there has always been a dispute about the GN'R name When Tracii left he din't want them to use the name, But then he gave in and said they could use it :-\

well, you have to admit, it's a beautiful name  :)