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Title: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: nesquick on February 28, 2006, 08:38:40 AM Something would be really amazing:
a Richard/Robin guitar jam:? Robin starts playing something, and then Richard joins him then they make a "battle" of guitar solos onstage, Could be amazing, people would love that. Then the whole band starts jaming, brain, dizzy, tommy and chris enter in the jam, and finally at the end Axl appears from backstage after the jam and they all start playing a new song. VR did something like that in their extend version of "Set me Free" onstage, Slash and Dave Kuchner were jamming together, it was one of the highlights of the show for me. That kind of jam blew people away. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on February 28, 2006, 08:43:31 AM That actually would be pretty cool. I would like to see Fortus get a little more spotlight. He's a really good guitar player, he's under rated in my opinion.
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: Guns N RockMusic on February 28, 2006, 08:47:29 AM While that would be really cool, I'm still hoping that buckethead comes around and tours with them.? No one can replace Bucketheads parts no matter how hard they try.? I'm not saying that Robin and Richard couldn't create something original that's equal or better than bucket, but they can't match Bucket's skill for what he plays. While Slash and Dave may have done that for one song, Robin and Richard would have to do that for every song they play.
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: Goddamn_Electric on February 28, 2006, 08:49:10 AM While that would be really cool, I'm still hoping that buckethead comes around and tours with them. No one can replace Bucketheads parts no matter how hard they try. I'm not saying that Robin and Richard couldn't create something original that's equal or better than bucket, but they can't match Bucket's skill for what he plays. Plenty of guys can replace him (Satriani, Vai, Malmsteen, Alex Lifeson, and a myriad of others), the problem is, none of them would play with Axl. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: jameslofton29 on February 28, 2006, 08:50:07 AM Something would be really amazing: Cmon, Nes. This is fantasy land stuff. Why do you hate BH so much, and love Robin and Richard so much? I remember you saying awhile back how the band was so much better without BH. How do you know? They havent done anything without him, and its crystal clear that if they take his parts out of these new songs we just heard the quality of the material drops tremendously.a Richard/Robin guitar jam:? Robin starts playing something, and then Richard joins him then they make a "battle" of guitar solos onstage, Could be amazing, people would love that. Then the whole band starts jaming, brain, dizzy, tommy and chris enter in the jam, and finally at the end Axl appears from backstage after the jam and they all start playing a new song. VR did something like that in their extend version of "Set me Free" onstage, Slash and Dave Kuchner were jamming together, it was one of the highlights of the show for me. To answer your question, I dont think they should be replacing his parts. Just get someone else to play his parts. I would rather have kick ass music and have it be the way Axl originally wanted it to be than to have Robin and Richard trying to improvise something. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: Guns N RockMusic on February 28, 2006, 08:53:46 AM When buckethead left I thought it wouldn't really affect the music because he has little to no part at all on the songs we saw on the 2002 tour. Now that these new tracks have surfaced, I don't see how you can remove his music from the songs without totally destroying them.
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: madagas on February 28, 2006, 08:54:30 AM Sounds cool if you had Dickey Betts and Duane Allman playing guitar for you! Of course, Richard and Robin aren't anywhere near those two so I say just play the damn songs and add in their own style to the solos. A concert doesn't have to be a note for note replication of the album. Sometimes you'll get better versions of the songs...sometimes worse. That's live rock and roll. :D
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on February 28, 2006, 08:54:56 AM Something would be really amazing: Cmon, Nes. This is fantasy land stuff. Why do you hate BH so much, and love Robin and Richard so much? I remember you saying awhile back how the band was so much better without BH. How do you know? They havent done anything without him, and its crystal clear that if they take his parts out of these new songs we just heard the quality of the material drops tremendously.a Richard/Robin guitar jam:? Robin starts playing something, and then Richard joins him then they make a "battle" of guitar solos onstage, Could be amazing, people would love that. Then the whole band starts jaming, brain, dizzy, tommy and chris enter in the jam, and finally at the end Axl appears from backstage after the jam and they all start playing a new song. VR did something like that in their extend version of "Set me Free" onstage, Slash and Dave Kuchner were jamming together, it was one of the highlights of the show for me. To answer your question, I dont think they should be replacing his parts. Just get someone else to play his parts. I would rather have kick ass music and have it be the way Axl originally wanted it to be than to have Robin and Richard trying to improvise something. I think he's talking about where Buckethead had is own solo at shows in 2002, and he's talking about replacing that. Not the parts in the songs. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: jameslofton29 on February 28, 2006, 09:00:14 AM I think he's talking about where Buckethead had is own solo at shows in 2002, and he's talking about replacing that. Not the parts in the songs. You must not read many of Nesquick's posts. He wants all things BH erased not only from the album, but from the collective memory of the world. :hihi:Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on February 28, 2006, 09:02:57 AM I think he's talking about where Buckethead had is own solo at shows in 2002, and he's talking about replacing that. Not the parts in the songs. You must not read many of Nesquick's posts. He wants all things BH erased not only from the album, but from the collective memory of the world. :hihi:No I know he hates Bucket for some reason. I know he thinks Bucket's parts will ruin Chinese Democracy(Yeah right, I dont think so). but whatever. They have a poll over at splat to see who would want to see Nesquick vs. Buckethead at Wrestlemania. I was just pointing out what he was talking about in this thread. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: gigger on February 28, 2006, 09:03:42 AM I wouldn't rule out someone like Gary Sunshine or Eric Cadieux touring with them as a guitarist.
If not, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pittman sampling Bucket's solos live. He's gotta do something when they play live surely? ?:hihi: Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: nesquick on February 28, 2006, 09:28:42 AM I think he's talking about where Buckethead had is own solo at shows in 2002, and he's talking about replacing that. Not the parts in the songs. You must not read many of Nesquick's posts. He wants all things BH erased not only from the album, but from the collective memory of the world. :hihi:I didn't bash the Buckethead here, so stop reading what you want to read. what you say is not what I wrote, and this is not the subject of this topic. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: jameslofton29 on February 28, 2006, 09:31:57 AM Maybe they should just play new songs to replace the solos.
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: nesquick on February 28, 2006, 09:33:54 AM Maybe they should just play new songs to replace the solos. I prefer when you answer like that? : ok:Yeah, that's another idea. Playing maybe 1 or 2 more songs with a setlist of 23 or 24 songs instead of 21/22...but i still prefer the jam idea. Focus the attention on the new musicians, they should be under the spotlights too, not only Axl, just let people see this is a tight and real band and not only Super Axl and the rest of the guys below. Do you see what i mean? Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: jameslofton29 on February 28, 2006, 09:47:19 AM Maybe they should just play new songs to replace the solos. I prefer when you answer like that? : ok:Yeah, that's another idea. Playing maybe 1 or 2 more songs with a setlist of 23 or 24 songs instead of 21/22...but i still prefer the jam idea. Focus the attention on the new musicians, they should be under the spotlights too, not only Axl, just let people see this is a tight and real band and not only Super Axl and the rest of the guys below. Do you see what i mean? Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: The Dog on February 28, 2006, 09:55:04 AM Solos give Axl time to rest up a bit and calm his vocals down. It also lets the new guys demonstrate to the crowd that they can play. I think you have to fill that time with some kind of instrumental. I think a jam is a great idea. Hell, Axl is even playing guitar these days, he can join in! : ok:
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: Journeyman on February 28, 2006, 11:01:24 AM That actually would be pretty cool. I would like to see Fortus get a little more spotlight. He's a really good guitar player, he's under rated in my opinion. yep!!I think Fortus is very underrated...but we all saw in 2002 that he had lots to give to gnr fans Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: Scabbie on February 28, 2006, 11:11:15 AM More Axl Rants! :rant: :rant: :rant:
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: nesquick on February 28, 2006, 11:16:03 AM Fortus is not underrated, it's just he was really new in 2002, and people didn't have enough time to know him because the tour stopped brutally a few month after.
He didn't have enough time to show his full potencial. Don't forget he wasn't in the band by the time of Rio 2001, he didn't join in 1997 like Robin or in 2000 like Buckethead, but in 2002, so yeah, he was really new in the band when the ball started rolling in 02. Anyway, he impressed me a lot at VMA'02, he was the most energetic new guy, he took the lead on madagascar and guess what? It's probably the best version of this song ever played Live. I think Rock in Rio 2006 will build him "a name". He will DEFINITELY play more Lead parts, and I'm sure in the following days he will have "a name".? I've always seen him like the link between the old band fanbase and the new one. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: jameslofton29 on February 28, 2006, 11:19:17 AM Fortus is not underrated, it's just he was really new in 2002, and people didn't have enough time to know him because the tour stopped brutally a few month after. Richard should hire you as his publicist. :rofl:He didn't have enough time to show his full potencial. Don't forget he wasn't in the band by the time of Rio 2001, he didn't join in 1997 like Robin or in 2000 like Buckethead, but in 2002, so yeah, he was really new in the band when the ball started rolling in 02. Anyway, he impressed me a lot at VMA'02, he was the most energetic new guy, he took the lead on madagascar and guess what? It's probably the best version of this song ever played Live. I think Rock in Rio 2006 will build him a name. He will DEFINITELY play more Lead parts, and I'm sure in the following days he will have "a name", in the mediatic sense. I've always seen him like the link between the old band fanbase and the new one. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: killingvector on February 28, 2006, 11:54:41 AM I wouldn't rule out someone like Gary Sunshine or Eric Cadieux touring with them as a guitarist. If not, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pittman sampling Bucket's solos live. He's gotta do something when they play live surely? :hihi: Isn't Gary Sunshine operating an adult video store in Florida now? Seems like a drastic career change. Axl could run around the country in a used police vehicle with his brother Stuart and try to reform his band. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: RichardNixon on February 28, 2006, 11:55:56 AM Did you guys see Slash at the Michael Jackson concert in '01? Slash played a lot of MJ songs, one of which is "Beat it." The solo in "Beat it" is of course, performed by Eddie Van Halen on the "Thriller" album. Slash knew enough not to try to attempt that solo, as it isn't his style and he isn't as proficient as EVH. So, for the "Beat it" solo, he did his own thing, and it sounded good. When GN'R play these new songs, unless they get another guitar whiz for the tour, Robin and Fortus should just try to work with what skills they have, and improvise.
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: gigger on February 28, 2006, 11:56:36 AM I wouldn't rule out someone like Gary Sunshine or Eric Cadieux touring with them as a guitarist. If not, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pittman sampling Bucket's solos live. He's gotta do something when they play live surely?? :hihi: Isn't Gary Sunshine operating an adult video store in Florida now? Seems like a drastic career change. Axl could run around the country in a used police vehicle with his brother Stuart and try to reform his band. He was in porn but he's back in music again. He's still in touch with Axl too allegedly. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: younggunner on February 28, 2006, 11:59:21 AM I used to talk to Gary Sunshine a few yrs back. very cool guy. I remembe rhim having the instrumentals to IRS and a fe wother songs but never would let me hear them lol...
but he said Axl was a very cool guy and was focused on making the best music the band was capable of Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: CAFC Nick on February 28, 2006, 12:00:16 PM The Buckets solo stuff is pretty good.
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: shaun on February 28, 2006, 12:02:45 PM a robot ;D
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: C0ma on February 28, 2006, 12:37:38 PM If not, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pittman sampling Bucket's solos live. He's gotta do something when they play live surely? ?:hihi: If they start sampling guitar parts, Richard would feel right at home...... It wouldn't be any different than touring with N'Sync. Maybe Axl can start running around lip synching to pre recorded vocal tracks (Ashlee Simpson Style). Unless the guitar parts get much more complicated in the songs we haven't heard yet, they could get any kid in his second year at Berklee in Boston to replicate those solo's (if you give him a tricked out guitar with a kill switch). They sound great, but I haven't heard anything earth shattering yet. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: ARC on February 28, 2006, 12:39:06 PM I think Slash will be there for Rio. :smoking:
Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: shaun on February 28, 2006, 01:44:14 PM I think Slash will be there for Rio. :smoking: I think it has been confirmed that Slash is so far out of the GnR piture that it is never going to happen. If Slash were to show for Rio, then he'd be there for all the up coming shows, and if Slash was there for all up coming GnR shows then V.R. is over with. I cannot see Slash dumping V.R. just like that. Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: ARC on February 28, 2006, 01:48:36 PM I think it has been confirmed that Slash is so far out of the GnR piture that it is never going to happen. Confirmed by who..? Slash seems to me like he's itching to get onstage and play a set of GNR tunes... Title: Re: Your ideas to replace the BH guitar solo part onstage Post by: SOLGER on February 28, 2006, 02:30:38 PM Pat Smear
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