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i really miss him, maybe it was for the better for the band that he left but my god that guy could play, he was the one guy who really could fills slash' shoes, image and everthing, he was so fascinating and a great guitar player and front figure alongside axl. seeing him was an experience. finck and fortus are cool but don't stand out the same way buckethead did. a great loss. i still look forward to CD with great interest but did anyone lose a little interest for the band right after buckethead left? him coming back to the group would be the ultimate dream, matter of fact i even dreamed once that he did, lol. i'd rather have buckethead back than slash. maybe it was for the better for the band that he left but i know i speak for alot of fans when i say that he will be missed.

I've said it before, he was the element that pushed the new band to the stratosphere...tough to replace

I am so glad he is gone. I don't get people's love for him.

1) His image was awful he turned gnr into a circus act. I listened the the MSG show last night and his extended solo of star war themes and chicken picking has no place in a gnr show. his bucket and mask are lame

2) I hate his playing. He sounds like a robot jerking off. I don't find any soul in his playing at all, to me he sounds like he being paid to play. While he can shred undoubtly... that is a decade and half to late.

I love finck and fortus as they have soul and I honestly think they understand the emotional aspect of where axl is coming from.

I've listened to bucket's solo stuff and it is great. but i just don't like him in gnr, and i'm glad he is gone. I hope they saved alternate solos and parts and have replaced his contributions on the album.

i was a big buckethead fan before he was in guns, & i'm still a big buckethead fan after. i will miss him alot!!!

Crashdiet, you said it. I just dont like that guy. And when he plays, he just stands in the same place and looks so fucking stupid with his mask, KFC-bucket and jacket. And I dont like his sound either.. too modern or something, but not good. I hope he wont be on CD.

You've listened to his solo stuff, yet found no soul in his playing?  Buy Electric Tears, Colma or Population Override...It's a matter of subjective opinion, sure, but at the very least, the Image point is moot...I don't need him to look like Izzy or the Strokes for him to be in GNR....Fortus and Finck are great in their own way, and add their own ingredient, but I'm sorry, I just don't see them pulling it off alone.

i think buckethead's solos, the guy plays with emotion few players today can match, should be on CD but of course axl knows better than i do if it should.
i wonder what axl meant when he said they remained open to "discussion".
doubt he will be back though. :-\
but who knows what the future will bring?
guess we will see glimpses of that at rio. 8)

I like his solo stuff. I think he sounds soulful for sure.... but from what i've heard in the gnr material I just don't buy his contribution. I don't feel him. I just don't like the shredding.... ?I mean he does have a couple cool ideas like the lick before the second verse in better... thats really cool. But as a whole I just dont' like what i've heard thus far.... I could definately be eatting my words once the album is released and we actually know who plays which solo's and riffs... but as it stands I hate his image... he makes gnr look bad... this is suppose to be rock n roll not pee wee's play house.

while he is an outstanding player... I just dont' think gnr is the band for him

his image was fresh and cool and his shredding brought something new to the songs.
it remains to be seen how axl will fill this void.

I just listened to Colma, and I didn't find it any interesting. And I care about how band looks on stage.. I like the energy of the other members, but Bucket was just a boring person. He had some cool solos/riffs during the tour, but naaaww.. dont like it. And I personally think that any member's solo stuff has nothing to do with Gn'R, so if someone has some cool stuff on his solo album, it doesn't mean that his stuff is cool in Gn'R. You know what I mean? Solo albums ar solo albums.

i'm sorry but shredding died in 1989... the general public gets annoyed by that these days.

I'm give you that his image was fresh... but it was far from cool or rock n roll which is what gnr has always and should always be... not werid and freaky. i'm sorry star wars theme songs, chicken picking, and action figures shouldn't be part of a GNR show EVER.

Just because he can shred night train doesn't mean its soulful.... but then again many people think fink sounds out of tune while I think he is the perfect compliment to where slash left off. To each his own i guess :beer:

 He tore up the solos on the old songs, you can't honestly tell me he plays without soul or feeling when on his November Rain and KOHD solos on the tour amongst others

Yes, he shreds, he can play fast, and likes to do so, but it's not the only thing he does, the only thing he's capable of doing, or the only thing he's about, just listen to TWAT from about 4:20 to the end   :smoking:

Don't miss the guy I'm happy he's gone. I have his solo stuff altough I like that, he just doesn't fit with guns imo

I don't feel a void since he never did anything I remember.. It's like missing someone that was never there.. ig new gnr released albums did long tours videos and everything else then I would feel this way

Being a rockfan and spending great amounts of your time discussing how things should look by your own assbackwards standards is the pinnacle of lame. Slash receiving credit for an awful sloppy version of some of the most beautiful movie music ever recorded (written by mr. Rota), is not only lame but pretentious as well.


Focus on shredding in a BH related discussion and immediately lose your credibility. You can say whatever you want about you having heard his solo-albums.

And even if some shredding is there, all this nonsense about how shredding was cool mainstream-wise in the 80?s. Who cares what the mainstream likes? Shredding today (by people like Holdsworth or Buckethead or Thal) is just as relevant as then. We?re discussing music not fashion. It isn?t about being successful according to what is trendy. Who cares that the general public has different preferences or what is in and out? When properly reinvented (like BH does) no musical concept should be dated.

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It's not that I love him. I just think his solos are great.

I love BH, I think he's a creative genius and I love his solo work. But as stated before, I just don't think he was right for GnR. I believe he's even admited that himself, ( if I'm asked for a source I'll look tomorrow or whenever else I have time) but I do remember reading him saying that at some stage, and i do agree with him, GnR just ain't his thing.

yeah, I wonder who will fill his side of the stage! :nervous:

yeah. i feel the void is shaped like a bucket mask and raincoat. thats it. he was not a contributor, finck has a 10x better more powerful solo than bucket, he just plays fast

Added: and i don't like that finck freak so much ither, he also looks like a circus sideshow but the man can play solos somewhat slashlike with that sustain and feel and his sound is wierd but its alright

I definitely miss the guy... he had a "presence" about him live that was a nice counter-weight to Axl's larger than life persona on stage... similar to Slash in that regard... and now that's missing and I really fear that the band is going to come across as "soft" or completely over-shadowed by their famous frontman live... Plus,  say what you will, but the dude had the chops to be in GN'R- new stuff/old stuff it didn't fucking matter... Robin only seems to really shine through on the new stuff IMHO... and that's a problem when people go to a GN'R show and expect to hear WTTJ, SCOM, PC, Patience, YCBM, KOHD, NR, etc. played flawlessly...

feel a huge void snce he left.

If the band say they are better without him then they "know better" than any sheltered person on the board

As was said before by many..no vibrato..no tone..no band interaction..and trys to bluff old GNR tunes..pure cringe really

Why always bring Slash into a Buckethead related discussion?

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how can I feel a void for a person that never did anything? Ig he had done several tours and gave me albums worth of material then I could miss him..? Take the internet away and I would have never really known he existed (welle xcept the vmas)\


But do I think new gnr will miss him??? Damn right, who will play the irs solo, who's going to play his speedy parts??

yeah i feel a void.. and i dont know how they will fill it..
but im sure that axl will do something...

lets put it this way, He was supposed to fill a void and he didnt. So there is nothing to feel if he was never bigger than the original void.

I really feel a void who couldnt help miss a huge guy in a mask witha KFC bucket on his head come on thats hard not to miss  : ok:

How do you miss the guy since the last time axl n company played he was onstage too.. It's not like you've been watching them tour minus buckethead.. He will be missed when they  play because he was better then the other 2..

compared to robin in a space suit with a half shaven head and a motorcycle/war helmet on his head?!

roflmfao .. u gnr fans crack me up , or pittman dressed like a member of the village people? or axk in over sized hockey jerseys ands pants with corn rows in his head?!  hahah

gimme a break.

fortus and brain were the only "normal" members on that tour

jerseys arnt supposed to fit tight. I've been playing hockey for 6 years and even on ice the gayest looking kids are the kids with small jerseys. sorry but no cigar.

That's all you have to say? A pointless preach about the significance of baggy Jerseys? Now I understand the ignorance in your other posts.... How about filling the void in your head?

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there's really nowhere to feel a void yet...the band has probably not even been all in the same room since Bucket left anyways.
I'll see when they tour and when the album is released if i feel a void.

wow axl 20!  i dont think he was saying that axl should wear tight jerseys.  He was saying that finck looks like a goth transvestite, pittman looks like the village people, and axl looks like a fuckin wigger.  If people r gonna bitch about buckethead not looking rock n' roll enough for gnr, then bitch at axl for looking about as rock n roll as vanilla ice.  Yea ull probably come back with some stupid response, shoving axl's cock slightly further down ur throat, but nobody will take u seriously so blow it out ur ass, u ignorant little fucker. lol i just got more and more angry as i wrote this post.

Tone your insults down or your ass will get kicked out the door (ie, banned) before you even have the time to say anything.

Like i give a fuck if i get banned from a goddamn message board.  Unlike u idiots i dont plan on wasting my life posting a thousand messages on the board of a band that barely exists.  "o y did u even bother joining jizz dizz (assumed response)"  because after being interested in some of the new material i wanted to see what people thought, and some the responses provoked me to tell the ignorant bastards how fucking dumb they really are.  Go ahead Pandora ban me, and then delete this message then continue to waste ur life with the rest of these pathetic million post freaks.  And Pandora if u have the balls not to delete the message, then i cant wait to read the responses from the people that freak out about me dissing there life consuming, cock sucking message board.  bye bye im gonna go actually live a life off the internet wihtout regretting anything i said.  maybe itll actually wake some of u up (prob not).  I'll enjoy never visiting this worthless site ever again.

P.S. go suck axl's cock Jarmo. u have no life.

enjoyt ur next 2210 posts Pandora, I hope the 2211st will be about me.

Okay, then.  I don't feel a void, becuase other then the MTV Awards and a few live bootlegs,  I barely had a chance to register the new line-up at all, let alone really get a feel for how Buckethead changed the dynamics of the band.  For those of you who saw some shows, you have far more to offer, but to me - until a new tour and a new album, it's hard to evaluate how the new lineup fucntions or sounds as a whole, let alone how much any one member (Axl aside) contributed to the group, you know?  I haven't gotten attached to anyone in the new GnR simply because there has been very little to get attached to...

Very True... The only void I feel is that everytime I look at GNR I don't see that stupid KFC bucket and the hockey mask... I don't laugh at them as much anymore... It's hard to come by a silly person these days.

Hockey mask? Ignorance.

sorry i'm bumping an old topic, and as excited as I was about GNR round 2 and coming back to piss all over the disbelievers, I was a bit hurt that Buckethead wasn't there. More power to GNR though, and more power to Buckethead.

It's not going to be the same, and I really don't know about this bumblefoot guy or whatever his name is, I'm sure he's technically proficient, and he has his own little gimmick thing, but I dunno...it's not the same. Buckethead with GNR would have been amazing, but yeah, respect to all.

Ron is the only worthy replacement for Buckethead. If this band is going on without Bucket (which they do), then this incarnation with Ron is the only right thing to do...

Ron is absolutely amazing...

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I trust all the judgement I hear.

Like I said I have nothing against Ron. I look forward to discovering his musicianship further and enjoying his contribution to GNR. It's just sad to see Buckethead go that's all.

There aren't many people on this forum who miss Buckethead more then I do, I really know what you're saying. I spend the last four years here aupporting him like he's my brother...

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I do

I'm glad bucket is gone.  He never really seemed into the band.  I think bubble will be great!

Go bumble! YEEEEEAAAHHHHHHHH  :beer:

Same feeling if Fortus, Finck or Stinson left, actually...

not really this ron thal dude seems cool. i felt a void when slash left though  :(

That's exactly what I was thinking.  I don't feel a void after Buckethead!  What was a Buckethead?!?  I definitely the void prior to that! 

pretty soon it will be a recognised condition -'Post GNR Lead Guitarist Departure Emptyness'  :hihi:

seriously, I feel a bit of a void, although it's miniscule compared to the void that Slash (and the rest of them) has left

haha, weird, right when i started reading this thread "Move On" by Jet started playing on my playlist.

anyway, i loved buckethead, he was a great guitar player, probably the best i've ever hear. and for those who say he has no "emotion" in his playing go pick up "Colma". i was sad to see him go. but honestly gn'r seem more of Rock band more than ever now.

Void? How can you feel a void for a person who isnt dead? I mean its not like you cant listen to the person's next album. You feel this "void" then get that persons latest album. How can anyone feel a void when Slash left GnR? Its not like they have come out with anything substantial for 13+ years. Wait til CD comes out than you can say..gee...I miss slash and so and so on this album. Guess I will wait for the new VR to come out. Now if you say you felt a void when Dimebag got shot in the face that is another story. That I can understand.

dimebag got shot in the face ? wow. what a degrading way to go.

everyday there is this void in me that thinks and imagine what if...

what and where G&R will be if Buckethead stayed... oh well. i guess there will be time to move on.

one thing that i think of is why we didn't hear from Brain regarding Buckethead leaving?? like what happened or any explanation...like a behind the scenes stuff.  they have a long history of collaboration and playing shows. and IIRC it was Bucket who recommended Brain to G&R when Freese left. i could imagine that he could've said something in light of the fact that Tommy "badmouthed" BH.

definatly. i love buckethead and while i dont like his image in the band you cant talk shit about his abilities. he is amazing. if you are going to talk shit about him, listen to the songs with the new band from 2002 and compare bucketheads solos with bumblefoots solos. there were a bunch of bumblefoot solos during like KOHD and others that just sounded bad. im not judging him yet because he is new but i definatly missed buckethead the last two nights. 

listen to nottingham lace is you think he lacks emotion!

Bumblefoot has been rehearsing the songs for a mere week now, given the circumstances (first time for a huge crowd etc), he did an excellent job ... really. I'm one of the biggest Buckehead-fans, but I know for a fact that Ron is perfectly able to create equal magic. They both are in a league of their own.

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I know it might be ridiculous to say there is a void after Buckethead left even though Buckethead wasn't a groundbreaking member of the band whatever, but i dunno, for the time he was in the band, he really was a big part of it and helped evolve guns n roses to the next level and add a new dimension and feeling to their sound

And I'm sure any other generally respectful Buckethead fan out there like myself (and pretty much every other Buckethead fan who has replied to this) is very sad to see Buckethead go, but at the same time, very accepting and willing to support this Bumblefoot guy..

Once again that is my feelings..

It's still sad to see Buckethead go...But I will appreciate Bumblefoot's contribution to the future of GNR..

It's not just because I'm a huge fan of his...he just..I dunno...like everyone else, well I wasn't exactly upset after Slash left - personally I thought this would be an interesting challenge to see how Axl could progress GNR - but I felt it was going to be a very different band....Buckethead made up for that completely and even more, and I hope - actually I have faith - that bumblefoot will be able to fill Buckethead's void

from what i've heard, he was good on some tracks, and others i didn't care for; from what i've seen from the pics recently they look like a rock band now rather than a circus side show like they did in 2002

i dont...robin is all i need

I definatley do not feel a void now bucketheads gone, he was/is a joke

i miss him, at first i hated the guy, i thought a guy with a yellow rain coat with a KFC butcketon his head, but i heard his playing and was amazed!!!!its just a gimmick a funny one

ron thal is good, but they don't sound as good with him there, nightrain for once is sucking big time, what i thought was their best song is just average now. axl is singing it better, but without bucket's solo it's just lame, ron's solo is boring, it repeats itself a lot a misses melody, besides the guy has an awful guitar tone compared to BH.... i miss bucket. his sound is deeply missed.

nobody loved BH in 2002 and now every body want's him back  ::)

i loved him. search my posts if u don't believe it

I feel a void without Bucket in the band. I saw the band in 2002 with Bucket and in 2006 with Ron. Ron's playing isn't as good as Bucket's and he just doesn't have that intangible thing that Bucket has. Bucket could have been a big star with this band and Ron will never be a big star. Axl please fire Ron and get Bucket back.?

Don't kid yourself in believing your own anti-Ron propaganda.

Ron is one of the most prolific forces in guitar music today.

He is every bit as respected as Buckethead, like it or not.

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I reallly hope you're wrong 'cause he's the only reason I'm even interested in gnr right now....along with Axl that is ofcourse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpr498vngFQ

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Search my posts, and you'll see what I say right here is what I've said all along: I knew the Bucket haters would come around when the demo songs couldn't be replicated live as they were in the studio or that the '02 new songs sounded different this time around. Simply put, no one plays like Bucket. His tone is so warm, and he plays the shit out of the old stuff. Just listen to Nighttrain from 02. Now we've got what we've got, and we're gonna have to deal with it cause Bucket ain't coming back. Robin may have gotten better this time around, but Ron is a step down from Bucket. I could give two shits about his image, because when I listen to his CDs or boots, I don't see the guy, I just hear his incredible playing. Image only matters live and on video. Most casual fans will never see GNR live and videos don't get played on TV anymore, so what difference does it make what Bucket's image is.

If BH is a joke, what the fuck do you call a guy that cant play his parts?




Great post, Bigbri. :beer: You seem to get shit sometimes, but its because some people just cant handle the truth. Certain types of fans will just worship anything that Axl throws at them, just because they think they're supposed to.

OP - Buckethead was a joke, a disgusting joke, and one which got very stale very fast...who could take GNR seriously when a man with a chicken bucket on his head played a bluegrass finger pickin solo....seriously, a disgrace!

buckethead no soul? listen to electric tears. buckethead is a circus act but finck isn't? dont judge a book by its cover  :rant:

Now that is one hell of a vid - I guess Buckethead can't be for everyone, but I thought he was great in GnR and I hope that any music he wrote for Chinese Democracy still makes it onto the album cause he is an amazing songwriter.

A guy named "MotleyCrue" is calling Buckethead a joke!  :hihi: Oh, the irony.

Buckethead never filled a hole in my opinion. He was just a replacement thru and thru.

all the people complaining that Buckethead doesn't belong in G&R because of his image...he looks like a circus freak,etc.
if you look back in the 2001-2002 tour G&R looked like a circus... finck looked like a geisha with all the white makeup, chris pittman had that cop from village people look. the only ones who looked normal were tommy stinson, dizzy and axl (well, axl was wearing all those jerseys, so i'm not sure :)  )

what was good about Buckethead joining G&R back then was he brought his talent in. at first i was skeptic when they announced he joined, but when i heard his stuff...i was amazed. and when they played live i can't get enough of his guitar playing, he nailed the original GNR songs while adding his style in it.

Ron Thal i guess is an adequate replacement so far, but i still hope they keep BH's part in the album.

I feela  void for bucky :'(

no i dont really feel a void.  i do like buckethead better than bumblefoot, but not by much.  they are both really talented but honestly, robin and richard are the guitarists that catch my interest.

Im not against ron, all the fans that met him says hes a "nice guy" but when I watched his performance, honestly, he did not have that total complete Guitar God that dominates my soul n loyalty like Bucky does. Sometimes when I watch n listen to bucky I feel like Im floating into some kind of deep guitar ecstacy of rock n roll that leaves my jaw dropped open drooling in awe of his magnificience. I just ADORE him. I think Ron does play good its just theres a more kind of complacent down to earth energy that seems almost sleepy for me. ....keekee...but I do hear hes a nice guy so thats cool  : ok: