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Guns n Roses will NEVER do the mistake and go on tour without an album to promote again. It was probably just a miscalculation back in 2002.
So at least, I?m sure about a release before the tour starts. Anyone agree, or disagree?

Try to use something a little more descriptive in your titles than "Just believe because"

I agree with ya, I dont think they will tour without an album. It will be a huge mistake if they do, especially in the States.

they better not...

they probley will again....  :rant:

True, true. I mean, when you go to a concert, you?d like to scream your lungs out in some good rockers (Chinese Democracy for example). But that?s not too easy when it?s the first time you hear it. I mean, the crowdreception for the new songs weren?t too hot at the U.S tour.

if no album is released before the tour, we'll only have the 5 fucking "new" songs they've been playing for half a decade now!!!

I'd like to think they wouldn't make the same mistake twice but the longer we go without an announcement the more likely it seems they will ?:no:

I wonder if this is "Round 2", or "Round 1 & 1/2"

Obviously they will.....next question

Will GNR tour with out a new album?......






























Does a bear shit in the woods? :nervous:

In 2002 to road-test new songs, not a bad idea. In 2006-huge (and I don't mean Paul) mistake

I think they'll play these upcomming festivals without a new album. I just hope they'll be at the shows.

The only way I could see them getting away with it is if they announced an official release date whilst on tour for later that year. Like on the UYI tour when Axl tells the crowd 'the motherfucker is finished'. That's the only way I can see this working without an album.

If I were laying the odds on Guns N' Roses releasing Chinese Democracy before they play their first festival date, it'd be 10 to 1 against, and I'd take a lot of fuckers' money.

If I were laying the odds on Guns N' Roses releasing Chinese Democracy before they play their last festival date, it'd be 5 to 1 against, and I'd probably still take in a lot of money.

So, I guess I don't have much faith in them releasing the album before playing shows ...

Last tour was called "The Chinese Democracy World Tour"...and there was no Chinese Democracy.  Not again, please. I'd rather wait a while for the album and then the tour than have another tour real soon.

Road testing a few songs that won't be on the album? (rhiad, Silkworms)

What if he decides to take another road test?

Given the name of the album, what do you think they'll call in in 2006?

Chinese Democracy World Tour (Take 2), 2006

Or just "The Take II Tour in 2006"

If the album don't come out in March, then 'yes' they will tour and album will come out whenever  ;)

Axl will be offically a big dumb ass if even thinks about setting foot on the stage without a confirmed release date. He is asking to be slaughtered in the press which will probably mean he'd go hide for another three years

Hopefully there should at least be an announcement before these festivals.

There should be something. But no album release date.

Nothing that has happened to date even hints at CD being released.

In fact everything points to it being unlikely to ever happen. Geffen and Interscope are both currently unaware if there will be an album release and if there was who would release it.

Lets face facts, it ain't coming anytime soon. All the festivals are doing is hinting at 2002 for me.

I'm not even sold on the fact that they will even be at these festivals :-\

That thought has crossed my mind, as well.  I damn sure wouldn't be shelling out the big bucks for tickets, hotel reservations and airfare with no official word from the band.  Don't forget the last time GNR was supposed to play RIR.

I doubt they will tour without it, or like someone else added to the conversation: he might announce a date at a concert. That might work.... On the other hand, Axl isn't touring for shits and giggles so I can assume he and his managements-employee's have a full-battle-plan ready in due time.

what are u talking about? heres a list..
1. Axl finally coming out of hiding and being all over the place
2. Leaked tracks all of a sudden
3. LIVE DATES!!!


thats pretty damn good since we've had nothing like any of the above since what? 2002

Just to be clear everyone. Do you consider a tour the 4 potential appearances at these festivals? I don't, They are one off gigs to me, with far less risk, because they would be one of many bands. So if they don't make it, many fans won't mind. (as compared to their own tour.

Of course they will - they are already booked to play live for the first time in years. Album or not  A handful of festivals isnt really enough for that to be an issue regarding fans going to see GnR.   

So what?


So he felt like going out and was spotted.


It's only logical that in over ten years demos leak eventually.


I feel sorry for whoever is confident enough to put up the barn on this actually happening.

we don't know yet if they aren't still booking dates or do have more dates wrapped in presents. So it's too early to judge. I think Axl and gang does have a gameplan. I like to add that I would love to see everything happen in the next couple of months. Press Release, battle-plan beeing published. Possible album release. It's really hard to speculate on this all.

already tried and failed, a new album has to come out before they tour again.

Exactly. The same mistake won't be made. I do believe there will be more festivals and gigs before the album as a warm up and hopefully promotional for the album but then after at least a single a tour proper will start.

well merck recently said the album isnt one yet.

moreover , does axl know theres a tour yet? has he been told?  ???

Well that's an interesting marketing approach. The album isn't one. Heh ;)



Probably not. At least he knows they get rumored to be playing fesivals all the time. :)

he'll probably find out when the tour is over...

Not really theyll do shows though, Didnt turn out that great last time they toures with no album

gotta love a good argument. :nervous:
i don't mind if they tour without the record at all, i want the timing to be right.
cd will come when it's ready, for now, just be happy to see guns live again, 6 years ago no one would even imagine we could.

didnt axl release a mini statement bout download and how he was lookin 4ward to playin there??
i think he knows whats going on!

Things are definitely looking more positive than they were in '02. All we got then was a crap article on GNRonline.com and a few Asian/European dates, the VMA's, then a half a tour. Now we got Axl out and about all over the place, songs leaking like crazy, radio stations playing these songs, buzz. It's lookin' good. While I'm not sure that we'll have the album before the first known show (RIR), I think we'll have it before the end of this "tour". They will not repeat '02. They won't...

I think the album is nearly done, or ready to be mixed, or being mixed.  Slash certainly knows something.  He either guessed, since he knows it's nearly done, that it would be in March or April, or was trying to jab Axl a little, by raising expectations for an early release, when he knew it was dropping this summer or fall.  We'll see, but all indications are this baby is in it's final production stages!  There are too many signs this time around, that are all coinciding with each other timing wise.  One thing is for certain, they are keeping this project under tight wraps, as people in a position to know something tangible, have no clue.  It's killing them!!

there was more to my post than you quoted...

But basically he tried to tour without an album once and got bashed... did you know one definition of insanity is to try the same thing over and over and expect a different result...

if axl steps on stage without at least a release date he is really begging to be a failure. I love the dude but it is time to shit or get off the pot

album=tour in 2006.  He has the new logo to go with it and everything..something is in the works and I expect a single soon!

There was a new logo in 2002. Didn't mean a damn thing. Maybe Chinese Democracy isn't really an album,  its just periodic releases of logos. :nervous:

There were rumors that the band has reassembled. Discussions, finishing touches, and rehearsals.....

Great! We never had this before!

No wait!

We had this 2002 and got an album!

No wait!

 ::)

I hope they release some kind of "image", like a band logo or something, so we know how to make our festival banners  :peace:

"But basically he tried to tour without an album once and got bashed... did you know one definition of insanity is to try the same thing over and over and expect a different result..."

Did he get bashed because he didn't have an album out or because he exhibited the same ego-erratic behavior for his opening gig...definitely gave out some insanity vibes for anyone who was on the fence about spending their hard earned money to check out the new band... ???

one can only pray that he will have material out but he thought he was the "sh*t" when he came out last time (2002)...and that was how many years after...

he got bashed because after all those years of waiting he came back and played appetite with a bunch of circus freaks.... if he is trying to reinvent GNR not releasing a new album is career suicide

So, what I think about it :
Axl says that " we will her music this year " , to create a big buzz, he may have put some songs to create a mega big buzz, he announce some shows without talking of an album release , so I think that he probably will do an official announcement about CD for his first and Big show , the Rock in rio one.
I think that he'll talk about it during the show. In fact is there any better place than the Rock in R show to do an announcement  everybody will hear . I don't think so ...
So in my opinion , CD probably will be out this year , but not until September October, maybe the end of the year . I think it would be a double album like the UYI. " 26 of 32 are nearly done" , a double album of 16 tracks in my opion.

Agreed, the festivals have been doing the confriming, not the band.......

special /self interest wouldn't have anything to do with it???? ???