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i've read on here people talking about it, and wanting it to be leaked, and "if better/TWAT/IRS is this good, imagine this i love" etc...but is there any indication it still exists with that title? from what i can tell, inferring what this i love would be about based on the title, either better or TWAT could be this i love, re-formed, re-titled, re-imagined or whatever you wanna call it....cuz better and TWAT are obviously about seymour, or some other broad; how many jilted lover epics can he possibly put on one album?

C'mon, man! Steph is not the only thing that Axl has in his head!
I don't think Axl is going to make a full lenght album talkin' about Stephanie Seymour.

This I love has been said to be about Steph though...

And as far as we know yes it does exist under this title, and someone clames they have a leak of it (but is not sharing).

Ah yes, the esteemed "This I Love" we've been living with this song title for so many years now, and so many of us believe it's going to be bigger than Estranged and November Rain put togeather.  One can only hope. :yes:

how can you ''believe'' such a thing without listening to it? ''Bigger'' than November Rain and Estranged put together? Is there a rumour that ''This I Love'' is a 22 minutes song?  ;D

You guys do know "this i love" was described by someone who worked on it as a simple piano ballad right? And It was rejected for a movie soundtrack in 97-98. I wouldnt get your expectations above November Rain- think more the Blues, because its probably had modern elements added to the song.

I don't believe it, but a lot of people do.

I'm pretty sure (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but Axl once claimed that it was the most emotional song he's ever written and that it's about SS.

That's why there's so much praise for it, even though we've never heard a second of it.

Some believe that there's a clip of it in one of the 'making of the estranged video' but no one knows for sure (unless it was disproven and I never heard about that).

Whatever, I'm sure it'll be a good song, but to over take NR and Estranged it'd have to be an amazing song.

Altho I'm ready to add TWAT to that list, that's a fucking epic song... 8)

rumors.  I'm sure any movie would take any song Axl did for their soundtrack cd for the sales alone, no matter how bad it was or is.

It was rejected. Someone expressed regret that the song wasnt included, because the film wasnt memorable at all. But the producer wasnt interested.

I remember reading Hit Parader magazine around 1993-94 and it had a supposed quote from Axl saying: "I''ve already written and recorded a new song called This I Love, which is the heaviest song I've ever done."

Take that how you will, but I never heard anything about a Stephanie Semour reference.
Also a guitar piece playing in the background of some scenes in the Making of Estranged video is also said to be This I Love, but I think that's more just fan speculation.

This one is rumoured to be a song in existance since the latter days of the UYI tour. If it's anything like the epics Axl did around that time and even heavier.. it is one to look forward to.

As for the movie soundtrack rejection.. do you have anything to back this up? Article? Source? I've never heard this before and don't believe it. Unless they thought it just wasn't suitable for the movie. I think this is just rumour.

Yeah, I remember reading about it here on this message board, but where that info came from I'm not sure.

its true. it was rejected for the soundtrack in 1998, but the real reason is open to debate. some say the song sucked, the director hated it,etc. it was supposed to be on the 'what dreams may come' soundtrack. I dont have an article about it, but i remember it, and there was a thread here about it early last year.

that was a sp1at exclusive, was it not?

it was actually a New Zealand director (Vincent Ward) who apparently directed it, from my home town... what a jackass

Okay thanks for the clarirfication. Guess we'll never know ?: ok:

If the director didn't like it then it doesn't mean it sucked. He might not have even been into GN'R at all.

So he's near you, huh? do I sense some stalking in the near future? :nervous:


 ;D

LOL, lets start a petition, quick, round up the HTGTH crazies from down under!  :peace:

we'll just kidnap Ven, and let him do all the dirty work. maybe vincent ward has the old demo, and we'll leak it in nanosecond clips while Ven goes out wheelin and dealin for more trades. :rofl:

I'm on it already. AxlRoseVen and Mr.Intensity are currently negotiating a trade through the PMs as we speak - a 1992 live Venezualan cut of? "It tastes good dont it?"  for a 9 sec clip of Silkworms.

We're close to a leak guys, hang in there!? :hihi:

The film was "What Dreams May Become" it starred Robin Williams and was released in 1998.

I can't remember if it got good or bad reviews but it's a moving/weird film about heaven and how everyones heaven is different, you make your own heaven.

What Dreams may come was a crazy movie.  Very weird.  For a long time under the making of Chinese Democracy page on this very site, This I Love was still rumored to have Slash on Guitar.  I guess that is a dead thought now.

"This I Love" goes back to around 1992.  He mentioned it in interviews waaayyyy back then.

"This I Love" was about Step's Son... Dylan

could it be part of the "lost" 1996 album???? just a thought, i hope not..... cause it sounds amazing

Axl Interview W/ Hit Parader 1993:

that farther too. We really haven't really sat
down to collaborate on songs yet. I wrote and recorded a new love song that I
want on the next record called This I Love, that's the heaviest thing that I've
ever done. Other than that, we're not even sure how we're gonna approach writing
for this next album. Last time Slash would write his songs, I would write mine
and Izzy would write his, and then we'd put em all together. Well, this time
there's no Izzy, and Slash isn't writing just his songs-it's gonna be more of a
collaboration thing.


Axl once said Estranged/Coma were the heaviest songs he's ever written, so if this was heavier (as in Emotional Heavy) I bet it was an amazing song.

It's sad how he say's him and Slash are (well were) gonig to be collaborating together instead of bringing seperate songs.

I think TWAT could be "this I love" at the very end it kind of sounds like axl says "this I love, there was tiiiime" Maybe not, it's what I've thought from first hearing it,

remember the old RS article from 2000?

Having stayed publicly silent so long, Rose appears to view the album as a final offering-up of his side of all his myriad battles - notably with his estranged band mates and, even more painful, with his one time fiancee, supermodel Stephanie Seymour, with whom he had an ugly split. He speaks of his desire for Seymour's son to someday be able to come across the new record. ''I hope he'll hear it when he grows up, if he ever wants to know the story, to hear the truth,'' Rose says a little quietly.

i'm sure he will put something positive on the record too though, like he said it will be something for everyone in there : ok:

Holy nuts! funniest thing I've read on here in a while.? Just picturing a lost a kid with a tub of Elmer's glue in his side pocket stumbling around from shack to shack mumbling incoherrently, "it's n' all bout' Ax'l n' Izzy ma'n!? oh'h'h FUCK!!!, axl loves argentina ohh'hhhh'hh'hh'hhhh'hhh fuck!!!"


On a sidenote, I don't understand why people think every single song is supposed to be about SS.? That was 15 odd years ago.? Surely there's been more than one woman in Axl's life in a decade and a half.?

who knows, according to people close to him he never got over stephanie seymour though...

this is gonna sound crazy , but reading about axl wanting dylan to hear the music when he "grows up" , man ... could axl have tried to delay this album as long as humanly possible so that dylan would be a bit older when it came out?  :nervous:

i seriously doubt that, but you never know with axl.
2007 will be the 20th anniversary for appetite for destruction though, would be a good symbolic time to release chinese democracy, but i believe other factors than these are at work.

Do none of you's know who Jennifer Driver is ?

She was Axl's girlfriend after Stephanie, watch the Since I Don't Have You video she's on their with Axl.

Axl supposidly said to a fan who ment him a few weeks ago that Stephanie "fucked everything up".

And there is Beta's interview. She said Axl used to get depressed every year when it was her birthday after they broke up.

Beta also said Axl thought Stephanie was "the one" he did everything for her, stuff you only "read in fairytales" to quote Beta. When they broke up Axl was destroyed.


So to answer your question Yes of course there is going to be a song/songs, lyrics what ever written about her.

when is steph`s birthday? :hihi:

jennifer driver was just a short thing i believe (without knowing for sure), but of course we don't know who axl has or hasn't been involved with the past 13 years, and i doubt he's gonna tell us anytime soon. all i know is stephanie played a major role in his life, and he never quite got over her.

I know that's what I was implying  :peace:

I know you meant that as a joke, but its actually a good question. Another good question: When's dylan's birthday? :nervous:

What soundtrack?

I'm curious.

 stephanie: July 23rd, 1969

What?  ???

What movie was it that the song got shacked from??

Tell me!

read previous posts in this thread for the answer. :confused:

What dreams may come, which was a very good movie. Robin Williams wife commits suicide and Robin refuses to enter heaven until he rescues her from hell............

Thanks man,

Sorry JamesLofton, I don't have time to read every post. I have a busy day.

 :confused: back at ya newb

no  didn`t mean it as a joke completely.....

but it wouldn`t have surprised me if it was dec 6 or anything like that :hihi:

No one knows when Dylan's birthday is? If it was in March, maybe Slash does know something. :hihi: