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New Songs Leaks.


Whole disc to be leaked?
New few-seconds clips of Chinese Democracy to be leaked?


No. Leaked tracks comes from Eddie Trunk demo cd... it is an 8 track disc, 4 of them are instrumental versions of their respective songs.

The tracks are:

I.R.S
Better
TWAT
Catcher in the rye

Unless we get a 5th audio clip, this is the only source of new gnr demos.

Update:
It's a fact that IRS sounds different than the other demos, it might be another source. Plus gnrman_202 says that trunk said Better wasn't on the demo.

Maybe there's a chance that 2 demo sources are being leaked

Album Release

No matter of rumours, "I know a guy who worked w/axl..", fake news, etc etc etc IT IS A FACT that 1 or 2 months befor the album release, we're gonna get some official news, proof, maybe a single, interviews, etc. It's gonna be a world relase, so Compact Disc factories will get gold discs to make a massive production of copies to sell. All that stuff is not happenning right now.. So wait until there's big signals of the release, just like when GNR released Live Era, Oh my god single, or Greatest Hits.


That's my opinion, please avoid posting lots of rumours until they're confirmed, lots of stupid people enjoys to spread illusions over the net

Source?

Trunk said that Better wasn't on the disc ;)

It is my belief that there are 2 source discs out there... my source is 99% sure there is.

Take it for what is worth. : ok:

Source:

Eddie cd demo: Eddie did an interview explaining the content of the demo cd (4 tracks + 4 isntrumentals). Use the search tool.

Tips to know when we're gonna get the album: Aero... just experience ?:hihi:

 :peace:

I haven't been following all the leak threads as close as some people, but I seem to remember there being a thread that said that Trunk confirmed that Better was not on the cd that he had played. Was this not a real quote from Trunk?

good post, i fully agree.
the signs are not here quite yet, be patient.
all we need is just a little patience. 8)
there is no way CD is going to be released even this spring i think, i mean it could happen but that would be a massive mistake, releasing a 13 million dollar project with practically no promotion. believe me, when chinese democracy is nearing, we will know.

didn't someone say that TWAT or better or one of them was NOT on the trunk cd?

The only place that I heard Better wasn't on the Trunk cd was here. As far as I know, it hasn't been confirmed.

If there is a link somewhere, please post.

The most likely scenario is that the cd will be released in May, right before Rio. That way they have enough time to promote the album, and the fans will all know the new songs when they play them live for the first time at Rio.

I stated before when everyone refused to believe that C.I.T.R was out there, that it was, and a 10 second clip promptly appeared later that day.

So, again.. take my word for what it is worth, but I am 99% certain 2 source discs exist.

i think may is too soon, in that case they would have to get the promotion machine rolling pretty fast.
hopefully summer, but i have my doubts about that too, the album isn't even on interscope's list yet.

I said the same thing ages ago. Until someone proves otherwise, I've got a strong feeling the "Trunk" CD was sent to someone else, or the original source is leaking shit themselves. I mean, the only person this guy/gal gave it to was Piazza? Seems unlikely...


I think Splat (who don't really deserve the shitstorm they usually get here) posted an interview or something with Trunk where he said he couldn't remember the other tracks on the CD at this point, since it was a few years ago.

So frankly who knows?

And the starting point for those discs could very easily be the same place. And we still haven't seen clips of anything else, just the four tracks outlined in the original post. All I've seen is just a couple idiots getting virtual ego boosts by hoarding crap or simply claiming to have it. Since you seem to be in contact with them, I suggest you tell them to put up or shut up.

Do you mean the Trunk CD and the 7-track CD (with Better, IRS, Twat x2 and the instrumentals)? Because that would mean that there is only one track besides Catcher that we have not heard

I wish it were that easy my friend.... it is your choice to believe as you wish.

I dont think its too soon. If we get an announcement from Axl within this next week, and it does indeed include a release date, and that date happens to be May, that would be 3 months to promote the album. That is definately enough time to promote. I dont think they would make the mistake of touring without an album again, that would be the worst decision they could ever make at this point. We all saw how 2002 ended up, and they dont want to repeat that again. And playing new songs like for the first time without an album, especially on tv, is dumb too. Everyone getting their first listen to the album live, where its obviously not the same as the record. Thats my opinion. If its gonna be released in May, 3 months is enough time to promote the record. I mean not that it needs much promotion, a release date would probably be enough. This is one of the most anticipated albums of the last 10 years.

It's a fact that IRS sounds different than the other demos, it might be another source. Plus gnrman_202 says that trunk said Better wasn't on the demo.

Maybe there's a chance that 2 demo sources are being leaked

My source has told me at least 5 more tracks are out there...2 in which we have heard the title of the song before, 3 of which we have not.

Actually, it is widely believed that Buckethead's hand puppet smuggled these tracks out the studio in 2004 and finally decided to display his masters work to the public because he was afraid Buckethead's parts may never be heard.

So are these leaks coming soon as was stated or is it just a lie?

This so called " leaks" just proved one thing, madness about GNR and Axl Rose is still there just waiting to explode, so think about it people ;)

Might be true, since IRS & the other songs sounds different, they're in a different recording quality... plus eddie trunk description on the disc he got...

I don't think about bucket leaking the album... he's gonna get paid for his work, and he can post the demos after the album is released, since those leaks affects him just like other gnr musican...

Of course there's a few more tracks to be leaked - It's being done on purpose and will continue bit by bit as part of promotion.

@#$%Funker

Add me to the list of people saying 2 CD's exist. The second being newer demos. I say are at least 15 demos floarting around. Mind you, this all my opinion based on some research, not fact.

on purpose?.........don;t think so........but.....who knows...... I like what I've heard definetely......so it isn't doing that much harm...........I will buy the album anyways.

from San Diego with Love Sweet!

These leaks are doing zero harm.

In fact for Guns N' Roses, they are only doing good.

@#$%Funker

 :love:

someone is teasing us :hihi:

best believe it, gnr never died out, they just vanished, the interest is still at large after all these years 8)

It is not a lie.

that's what these 'leaks' prolly tried to prove, tease tease tease :peace:

If the other songs were out there, you would have heard bits by now... The insider shits gotta go...... If you have it keep it to yourself. :-X 

There was a lot of talk about these songs:

Prostitute
Leave Me Alone
Catcher In The Rye
This I Love
Seven
Thyme
Zodiac
The General

So, are in fact only two of them circulating?

Call me crazy, but so far, I believe this Mr. Intensity guy.

 : ok:

Personally, it doesnt matter to me. I'm not going to listen to anymore leaked songs. Better, TWAT, and IRS were enough for me. I can wait till the album comes out, I would rather hear them like they are meant to be heard anyway.

It might be interesting to analyze who is interested in leaking those songs... and what kind of people is able to acces to this material.


I've heard few years before that some guy from england (very close to tommy stinson) had a demo cd...
Maybe some fired people in the making of the album?

Maybe two in a row?

were the f is Tommy anyway?

probably shitting in Bucket's bucket  :D

 ;)

j/k

 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :beer:

so it'll leak tonight riighht?

:rofl: :rofl: man we really are GNR fans  :rofl: :rofl: :hihi:

YA! were alllll fucked up :P :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

It's ovbious there's some orders to not give any interviews... even fortus isn't replyin emails. I just don't understand why anybody did ask axl new questions in his newest public appareances

Here is a fact a few people on this board have the song and are hoarding it and not sharing.

So if it doesn't leak tonight, what are we to do as far as your credibility is concerned?

I don't recall ever stating it would leak 100% sure by the end of this weekend.  :confused:

I have stated it will leak..

1)When the source obtains another leaked track in trade for it.
2)Soon after the press release.

I have also said many times it is not my decision to leak the track.

Oh so when dark gets the other track he will leak CITR then hoard the other track that is nice.

not to be a dick..but i think you did say the end of this week.

huh??

I may have assumed another track would have been obtained by the end of this week, which in turn would prompt another leak, but as of this morning no other track has been obtained.

Like I said certain people on this board have the track but wont share it.

Is there any proof other tracks are even out there? An examples?? Maybe the reason  you cant get anymore is because there is no more save CITR

i have a feeling we won't get another track for a while because the guys that are trading seem to be taking a hell of a lot of time doing so.

If there are clips flying around why not just leak those because it's not going to lower the value of the tracks. ?It just means that all of us who don't have 'contacts' can be in on it too.

I agree with you on that, all claims from others stating they have more unleaked songs has been bullshit thus far...

how do you know, and if so.. would dark please comment on that?

Press release? ?Whose press release?


Who's decision is it?

I am only asking because I missed those parts prior...

so it may just be CITR that will leak? ?

dark is away..or thats what it says on his msn status...

The traders are dumb. If they both want to trade for unreleased tracks, why not just both share the tracks with the community thus they wont win, but they are to busy playing chicken with each other and not wanting to go first by trading the track. Just share the damn track with the fans that deserve them.

It is believed a press release will drop sometime next week.

The persons decision to leak the track is the person I gave my word to that I would not.

this is fucking stupid. if those leaks are going to be spread here soon anyway, why trade?? that's just pure nonsense

You waited 10 years for new music, you got 3 songs, and you can't wait another 1-7 days for some more? Let the cards fall as they may behind the scenes dude.

The fact is certain people claim if they ever got a track they would share it with the community but that said person is not. That person is holding on to the track for a trade with a person that might not even have a leaked song.

Like I said is there any proof there are other songs out there? If there is there where is the clip?

It is believed yet another disc remains with up to 5 more tracks on it.


Anyway, I may soon pull myself from out of the loop as I have taken a lot of heat for this, as it stands this morning I may be recieving a call from someone in gnr management. If I am asked personally by someone official to stop trying to obtain more leaks, I will honor that request.

I don't know who is leaking these songs either but I do know it is Not the band or management, and in fact they are not happy about these leaks either.

I'm hoping for the sake of the album and the band, more is not leaked than what already has gotten out there!!

Then share the track before you cannot.

i agree.

it was obvious that the trading of these tracks would result in management getting involved.  It may be the case that we won't get any tracks if management finds out who is doing it.  Thats my opinion anyway.

I hope you guys don't leave it too late to leak the songs.

I can't help but think that if a trade were going to take place, then it would have already.

His status is always away.

But that's neither here nor there.

Ooh. Intense!! Don't remove yourself from the loop! Then you won't be cool!! And you won't get any attention!! Screw Management!!  :)

i agree about the trade would probably have already taken place.  It's been two days. How long does it take to e-mail a couple of songs.

Nah, the track will still leak I am sure. I will assist management in any way I can, but I will not give up who my source is....

Mr Intensity, will you leak the song if nothing comes of the trades?

Well, I am almost certain that someone from this site has been monitoring my pms and I am certain that person got my contact info from this site. I have forwarded the person who requested to speak to me my cell phone number and I am awaiting the call. I could care less about attention, my goal was to obtain more leaked tracks, I personally wish people would stop pming me unless they do have another track.

HEyyy! nice avy? : ok: :hihi:
anyway LEak the mothafucker!

Well, I am assuming I shall have a request from management to stop my efforts to obtain more tracks, and if that happens I will comply with that request. But, I assure you my source plans to leak it in due time.

You cant montior PMs, no forum can do that.

Also, how do we know that person making a trade didnt make the trade and has the songs but is still holding out on us saying oh I have not made that trade ?yet?

i hope you have luck in getting more tracks Mr Intensity. ?I think some of us were excited about hearing more new tracks by the end of the weekend. ?I feel a little bummed out because i got myself believing that there would be more leaks.

why does it say "banned" under yer username? did you request that?

I work in running an online internet message board, I am friends with an administrator, and on his site he can monitor all pm boxes. I assume that is possible here. I don't know for sure.

I was banned, but then allowed to come back and post. I assured Jarmo I would stop the activity which got me banned and I have.

My God I hope the axl drops a press release this week and the album street date is on there. let's be able to hear and discuss finished tracks!

would 'soon' be the word?

I think "soon" definitely is the word. I must go now as I need to grab a bite to eat.

I really think it is only a matter of a few days guys.  : ok:

All we need is just a little patience James. :)

Well, at least now you've covered yourself.

Almost as unique as those who predicted that GNR would play the VMA's.....................................

lol, makes my laugh everytime..

or years maybe  :yes: :no: :yes: :no:

I don't have CITR.  I have no clue where people get their information, but someone must have their wires crossed.

-darknemus

I do not monitor personal messages. SMF has no such feature.




/jarmo

I apologize, I was under the belief that any site could do it, but I am not a website programming expert by any means.

It is that easy. Leak it, or don't. If the source wants to play games, afaic, he can shove it.

I've seen dozens of leaks, and none ever as pathetically theatrical as this.

The only possible holdup on the leakers end should be security, ensuring that he's covered his ass and  that, if the disc has any audio watermarking, it's been removed. The only solid way to do that is to have do copies and compare them.

However, it's damn unlikely that demo discs were watermarked.

Quit crying man, what are little kids going to have to do?

I'm simply fed up with some attention hungry kid playing the fans like idiots. It's sad. I was editing my last post when you replied, but the ONLY holdup should be removing any watermarking (if there is any) and security. I have MILES more experience than most people in this regard I might add.

The only kids I see here are the ones working these pathetic little "trades."

This whole thread, and certain members responses, nuances, and actions--not to mention my own interactions with some of them during the past seven years--further proves that mgt. is involved, possibly in a cryptic manner, with the leaks. ?It further convinces me, that the marketing for CD officially began when Axl showed up at the KORN tour party. ?

I am not going to reveal who I have chatted with, online, etc. but they know many members past and present of GNR. ?They said this is marketing for the CD. ?They also said, that the some of the bandmembers were not quite sure of a release date, but were hopeful it was coming. ? One caveat, he said that he felt they would not tell him, though, if they did know it was on the way. ?

It does not take a brainsurgeon to figure out who is involved in someway with Universal/Sanctuary's online promo team's. ?

Sorry for calling your a hoarder, I was just getting pissy with all this stuff. You do help out us getting stuff out there a lot but thing whole trader thing is making a lot of people crazy .

just get some sunlight or something, a week away from the guns board...........then you'll come back......and see there is lot's of news to talk about!

I'm thinking bout doing the same, but this is my favorite band....so kinda hard to not check everyday on HTGTH

 ;D

This flu is just kicking my ass and I took it out on the wrong person (sorry again dark, I can admit when I screwed up).

Getting this back on topic, if Axl would release the album soon, these leaks would not matter. But its always interesting to see how a song progress from demo to studio album version.

well, if this really is the marketing for CD and the tour- it is a mark of genius on axl/merck's part---leaking demos and even getting one to CHART! flooding file sharing places with poorer quality versions of songs to protect the ' real ' ones..it really would be a stroke of magnificent genius!

I still don't buy that this is a marketing tool.  I hope i am wrong and that the album is finished but i am starting to think that we won't see the album until the end of the year.