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Title: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: JB9988 on February 25, 2006, 06:20:55 PM
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Dizzy spoke to a potential booker, the content of which has been posted to various GN?R fan forums. Dizzy said;

- He does not know about the rumor that GnR will have a new song on the soundtrack for the movie ?Da Vinci Code? - its a possibility for its Spring 2006 release but its something that Axl?s dealing with

- Buckethead?s guitar parts will remain on Chinese Democracy.

- Chris Pittman, 2nd keyboardist, is still in GnR.

- The epic track ?Catcher in the Rye? will be on Chinese Democracy and is written by Axl based upon the book of the same name and will have a different sound from UYI epics.

- Silkworms & Rhiad & Bedouins will NOT be on Chinese Democracy. They were simply test tracks that the band tried out during the 2001-2002 tour.

i dont care about worms but fuck man  rhiad is a kick ass song they better put it out on someting..


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Voodoochild on February 25, 2006, 06:25:00 PM
Old news. But yeah, Rhiad rocks, I really wish we could listen to the studio version.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: nesquick on February 25, 2006, 06:25:16 PM
We knew that, old news. But thanks. However, things may have changed because Richard returned to the studio and re-recorded new parts in december so...who knows...


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on February 25, 2006, 06:25:23 PM
where did u get this from? sounds interesting, glad that these 2 songs didnt make it


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Butch Français on February 25, 2006, 06:25:55 PM
AWESOME about Bucketheads stuff!
Im also glad those 2 tracks will not be on the album, I wanna hear a studio recorded version of Rhiad, but not on this album.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Dont Try Me on February 25, 2006, 06:26:27 PM
axl could have changed his mind a thousand times after october, november, december, januari, februari........ about all the subjects you mentioned.......minus.....silkworms ?;)

edit: look at my evil post count....could it be CD's release date?  :P


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Mandy. on February 25, 2006, 06:27:27 PM
What??
Silkworms was cool   :confused:


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: ppbebe on February 25, 2006, 06:35:47 PM
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Silkworms was cool


Yes it is, if not hot.  : ok: so is Rhiad & Bedouins. Maybe on the third / fourth album?


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: DazRose85 on February 25, 2006, 06:37:16 PM
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Silkworms was cool


Yes it is, if not hot.? : ok: so is Rhiad & Bedouins. Maybe on the third / fourth album?

Extra/b-side/bonus material only. They arn't good enough to be on the album(s) really IMHO!


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: JB9988 on February 25, 2006, 06:50:32 PM
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Silkworms was cool


Yes it is, if not hot.? : ok: so is Rhiad & Bedouins. Maybe on the third / fourth album?

dammit so i may have to wait 30 or 40 years to hear rhiad studio. Wonder if axl could still tour that old.....
 i didnt realize it was that old either other wise i wouldnt have posted it but hope some stuff was new to ya.
and here is where i got it from sry i knew i forgot something--->http://www.gnrwire.com/?cat=9


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: killingvector on February 25, 2006, 06:51:16 PM
Good find. I remember Dizzy saying that.

I hope if Bucket stays on CD, there is someone who can play his parts. I don't see Finck being that guy.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: JB9988 on February 25, 2006, 06:53:30 PM
Ya but fink is a damn good guitarist but bucket has a very different style then most others but anything or anyone surprising could join and pull it off (dont mean slash either).


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: BluesGNR on February 25, 2006, 06:53:46 PM
axl could have changed his mind a thousand times after october, november, december, januari, februari........ about all the subjects you mentioned.......minus.....silkworms ?;)

edit: look at my evil post count....could it be CD's release date?? :P

6/6/06 is a Tuesday... hmmm.. that may be the day that the dark lord puts out CD. ?Lets cross our fingers.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: BLS-Pride on February 25, 2006, 06:57:13 PM
Yeah I did.. And no matter where he said it. It really doesn't matter. The fact is they wont be on the album. Idiot.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: ppbebe on February 25, 2006, 07:12:28 PM
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Silkworms was cool


Yes it is, if not hot.  : ok: so is Rhiad & Bedouins. Maybe on the third / fourth album?

dammit so i may have to wait 30 or 40 years to hear rhiad studio. Wonder if axl could still tour that old.....
 i didnt realize it was that old either other wise i wouldnt have posted it but hope some stuff was new to ya.
and here is where i got it from sry i knew i forgot something--->http://www.gnrwire.com/?cat=9

Haven't you read the recent interview with Dizzy by M88 yet? In there he saiys he thinks silkworms will make an album sometime.  ???


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Saul on February 25, 2006, 07:14:55 PM
About Buckets parts , I say keep em on the album and let Finck play em live. It's not like finck ever played slash's solo's correctly live either.  : ok:

 :hihi:


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on February 25, 2006, 07:16:28 PM
About Buckets parts , I say keep em on the album and let Finck play em live. It's not like finck ever played slash's solo's correctly live either.  : ok:

 :hihi:

 :hihi:


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: badapple81 on February 25, 2006, 07:18:50 PM
Hope we get Rhiad on a b-side or bonus track, would love to hear a studio version!

I've never seen this info before so I'm really please that BH may still be on the album.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Ali on February 25, 2006, 07:19:23 PM
About Buckets parts , I say keep em on the album and let Finck play em live. It's not like finck ever played slash's solo's correctly live either.  : ok:

 :hihi:

That could be a disaster of epic proportions :)  I say let Richard Fortus rewrite the solos and make them his own.  Richard has some blues in him, so they could end up sounding more like old school GN'R solos.

Ali


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on February 25, 2006, 07:21:46 PM
About Buckets parts , I say keep em on the album and let Finck play em live. It's not like finck ever played slash's solo's correctly live either.  : ok:

 :hihi:

That could be a disaster of epic proportions :)  I say let Richard Fortus rewrite the solos and make them his own.  Richard has some blues in him, so they could end up sounding more like old school GN'R solos.

Ali

If Richard wants to do his own take live, fine.  But leave Buckethead's solos on the album, his TWAT outro and IRS solo are awesome.  I like the solo he has Better, I don't know if it fits, but it certainly catches your attention and keys the sudden mood change, maybe that was the point  :smoking:


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Ali on February 25, 2006, 07:23:57 PM
About Buckets parts , I say keep em on the album and let Finck play em live. It's not like finck ever played slash's solo's correctly live either.  : ok:

 :hihi:

That could be a disaster of epic proportions :)  I say let Richard Fortus rewrite the solos and make them his own.  Richard has some blues in him, so they could end up sounding more like old school GN'R solos.

Ali

If Richard wants to do his own take live, fine.  But leave Buckethead's solos on the album, his TWAT outro and IRS solo are awesome.  I like the solo he has Better, I don't know if it fits, but it certainly catches your attention and keys the sudden mood change, maybe that was the point  :smoking:

I meant for the live shows that Richard should rewrite the solos and make them his own.  That would be very cool, actually.  I'd love to hear more of him playing lead.

Ali


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on February 25, 2006, 07:24:45 PM
About Buckets parts , I say keep em on the album and let Finck play em live. It's not like finck ever played slash's solo's correctly live either.  : ok:

 :hihi:

That could be a disaster of epic proportions :)  I say let Richard Fortus rewrite the solos and make them his own.  Richard has some blues in him, so they could end up sounding more like old school GN'R solos.

Ali

If Richard wants to do his own take live, fine.  But leave Buckethead's solos on the album, his TWAT outro and IRS solo are awesome.  I like the solo he has Better, I don't know if it fits, but it certainly catches your attention and keys the sudden mood change, maybe that was the point  :smoking:

I meant for the live shows that Richard should rewrite the solos and make them his own.  That would be very cool, actually.  I'd love to hear more of him playing lead.

Ali

I agree.  I'd like to see that too if Buckethead doesn't return to tour : ok:


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Voodoochild on February 25, 2006, 07:32:30 PM
Wow! Wasn't this thread about Rhiad?


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: McDuff on February 25, 2006, 07:50:22 PM
Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see what will be on the album,I'm not sure that Dizzy really knows what's going on in GN'R :smoking:


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Mr. Sinister on February 25, 2006, 08:08:08 PM
Damn. I liked that song - It needed some work, but I hope it shows up down the road at some point, maybe on one of the follow up albums.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Mr.Intensity on February 25, 2006, 08:12:33 PM
I thought Rhiad had a lot of potential too... Axl sounds horrible on it live though.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: JB9988 on February 25, 2006, 08:42:05 PM
Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see what will be on the album,I'm not sure that Dizzy really knows what's going on in GN'R :smoking:

Im too sure axl really knows whats going on in GNR i mean slash made a release date for him.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: NickNasty on February 25, 2006, 08:44:41 PM
the song needed work...if that's what CD was going to be like in 2002, then i can understand the waiting. although i think axl mightve been holding back his 'big guns' (Better, TWAT) for later in that tour. sadly we will never know. :no:


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Butch Français on February 25, 2006, 08:54:28 PM
About Buckets parts , I say keep em on the album and let Finck play em live. It's not like finck ever played slash's solo's correctly live either. : ok:

 :hihi:

well, if they want any chance of getting near them live, they better leave it to Fortus!


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: estebanf on February 25, 2006, 09:43:34 PM
- Buckethead?s guitar parts will remain on Chinese Democracy.

That's the best thing that I could have read. Very happy to know that if Dizzy has the truth. After listening TWAT one million times, I can't imagine the new Guns N' Roses sound without him. He's a monster, a real guitar god.

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- Silkworms & Rhiad & Bedouins will NOT be on Chinese Democracy. They were simply test tracks that the band tried out during the 2001-2002 tour.

That's better. More unheard material. I thank Axl if he decided not to include Silkworms. Rhiad is average, I will not cut my veins off if he doesn't include it.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: oldgunsfan on February 25, 2006, 10:21:43 PM
well if dizzy can believed (which I tend to doubt); at least two of the shitiest songs I've heard from Guns won't be on the album, hopefully OMG won't be either


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: mongis on February 25, 2006, 10:25:46 PM
Old news. But yeah, Rhiad rocks, I really wish we could listen to the studio version.

wasn't a studio version leaked about a year ago of this? that's what i've heard an i thinks it sounds odd too, but i got a file... audience could be removed from live clip maybe..?


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Voodoochild on February 25, 2006, 10:34:54 PM
Old news. But yeah, Rhiad rocks, I really wish we could listen to the studio version.

wasn't a studio version leaked about a year ago of this? that's what i've heard an i thinks it sounds odd too, but i got a file... audience could be removed from live clip maybe..?
Sure. The only real studio leaks are the ones we're getting this month.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: kaddisonmoore on February 25, 2006, 10:43:43 PM
so then if catcher in the rye leaks, ill get it


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Krispy Kreme on February 25, 2006, 10:55:21 PM

Thank God.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: plasmabeam on February 25, 2006, 11:59:10 PM
Yay for no Silk Worms.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Eclipsed107 on February 26, 2006, 12:43:47 AM
I thought Rhiad had a lot of potential too

Rhaid has tons of potential, I just think there's too much going on in it to sound good live.

To me Rhaid sounds like one of those "studio" songs... where a studio version would blow our socks off but live it just doesn't come out right.  Axl also sings too high on the song, but that may also be fixed live.

At any rate I'd love to hear a studio version of Rhaid, because I'm pretty sure it'd be awesome 8)

It probably shouldn't be Chinese Democarcy material tho.


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Voodoochild on February 26, 2006, 01:01:22 AM
I thought Rhiad had a lot of potential too

Rhaid has tons of potential, I just think there's too much going on in it to sound good live.

To me Rhaid sounds like one of those "studio" songs... where a studio version would blow our socks off but live it just doesn't come out right.  Axl also sings too high on the song, but that may also be fixed live.

At any rate I'd love to hear a studio version of Rhaid, because I'm pretty sure it'd be awesome 8)

It probably shouldn't be Chinese Democarcy material tho.
I wouldn't mind if those people release Rhiad demo... ;)


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Eclipsed107 on February 26, 2006, 01:17:47 AM
I wouldn't mind that at all either. ;)


Title: Re: Rhiad is Not On Chinese Democracy
Post by: ClintroN on February 26, 2006, 04:01:33 AM

About Buckets parts , I say keep em on the album and let Finck play em live. It's not like finck ever played slash's solo's correctly live either.  : ok:



no, but he SHIT'S on the old solo's!!!


Fincks Sweet Child O' Mine solo is fuckin' amazin', do you realize how much extra shit he adds in to it!!