Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Don't forget those demos are probably old. Don't forget last year (2005), there were new recordings at the studio. And don't forget Richard recorded more lead and rythm guitar parts. We still haven't heard Richard. He is like a new weapon ready to Rock. Don't forget him.
There is a lot more to come. : ok:

That I can attest to, when I saw him at Don Hills a day before Axl showed uped at VIctoria Secrets Party, and in a casual converation I asked , "so you did go back and do more recording with axl in dec....." and he simply said yes.

besides maybe BH how do you people know who exactly is playing the guitar..? Maybe I just never studied finck to fortus 101 :(

after hearing the end of irs or better it makes you wonder what the others did do.. Bh's playing is so memorable out of everything... Also can those two others guys duplicate those solos in concert

well I haven't heard these leaks (am waiting for the real thing--not interested in demos) but with regard to Richard Fotus, I have to say that I was very impressed and moved by his fret work when I saw him touring with Tommy Stinson...I think (just my opinion) if he is given a bit more "grazing ground" with the gnr guitar sections he can not only do the job but add a major ingredient to this "new" combination of players known as gnr : ok:

The end if better (guitar outro) is played by ROBIN FINCK. It sounds amazing, I agree, but it's not Buckethead.

Fincks stuff sound cool, not memorizing though.

As far as Richo talking about the album I wouldn't expect too much from his mouth, hopefully he will speak with his hands.

How do you exactly know this? (don't give me that "I know fincks tone" shit)

If you don't do music, it will be hard for you to understand. It's a musician thing.? I can recognize who is playing between Bucket, Finck, Fortus, Slash, Izzy or any other GN'R guitarist in a second. I can recognize who is playing drums between Adler, Sorum of Brain in a second. I can recognize who is playing Bass between Duff and Tommy in a second. It's not only a question of tone, it's a also question of "touch". It's not only the way it sounds, it's also the way it's played. The "touch" thing. Either it's magical, or it's not. For exemple, when you hear something robotic and musically cold, without vibe, be sure it just can be Buckethead and no one else, because it's his own style. It's his "touch".

I think there's a lot to come from Fink and Fortus.  I bet once bucket left they both got ta work.

Robin is among the best for me. i'm totally convinced. I can hear his "touch" in those demos, he reminds me David Gilmour of Pink Floyd.
As for Fortus, I've been convinced for a long time he's among the best.

Slash is still the 200% pure genious though. he is absolutely phenomenal. He puts all his heart in his fingers, NO ONE can equal him. absolute genious. Axl is also a genious.

yeah, right  :-X

Fortus rocks-I still loved him at MTV awards-he was so into the whole performance

I like some of Buckethead's effects, but he kind of shreads to a point where it doesnt add to the song at times. Fortus probrally re -recored some of his parts, so the demos we are hearing probrally have changed.

The underrated Fortus posts strike again, I don't have a doubt in my mind that Fortus could pull of these solos...he's an amazing guitarist.

I usually like it.  I didn't like it when he was making love to his guitar though, that made me want to cry for being a fan of this band.

i`m very excited what richard added to CD and it`s successor, but i think we won`t get to know his real talent and his writing abilities on those CD`s, since he wasn?t really involved except recording i guess....  but we`ll see

the last solo in better is my favourite part of that song, by the way. i guess it`s finck, but i`m not sure.... 

my favorite part too, fits really well.   I hope Richard did some cool solo's on the album too.

Just because the end of the song is melodic doesn't mean it is not bucket.  However, if there is a part that may be someone else, it is this part, cause it does not require a shredder.  i guess the only reason it could be fink or fortus is that it is easy enough for them to play.  Bucket is not that memorable to me on these songs.  Some of his shit sounds a lot like Zakk Wylde anyway on these demos.  Nesquick is right, Slash is one of the few that you instantly recognize as soon as he starts playing.  It is really amazing.

True. I can't tell the difference between them.

If finck could have the same amount of strength picking wise on his up notes and his down notes I would be a big fan.  However he doesn't so some notes get muddled or lost or you can't hear them as clearly as you wish you could.  Its not like just a little off, it is a lot off.  Also if he could have a better sense of timing wise when solo-ing and not leave so much dead space in between licks that call for no dead space I would be a huge fan.  I mean BB King has a lot of time between licks at times but it sounds good, with Finck on a solo I just don't think it sounds that good most times.  Also if finck could keep a solid tuned pitch when he bends I would be the biggest fan of his.  I hate that dissonance he puts in there, sometimes on purpose and sometimes he just fucks up a helluva lotta bends. 

I don't ask for him to be Slash, that's unreal for this guy.  He just needs more time working on technique and less time working on freaky ass stage moves.

Don't get me wrong, I listen to his solo in better and think... Hey this guys is on the fucking right track when it comes to some of his ideas for writing a solo, he just doesn't have the skill to make it happen.  He has the creativity to almost write it though. 

Unfortunately this doesn't work for Buckethead because his sound and touch change all the time.  You listen to Cuckoo Clocks From Hell and then listen to Electric Tears, if you didn't know who it was, you wouldn't think it's the same guy

i guess i don't know too much about him - but does fortus have any writing credits in his career? i was under the impression he didn't write much.

I disagree with your post, but I guess I will let Finck do the talk on the album and tour.

enjoy,
vee

I've got to say, I'm really looking forward to seeing Finck and Fortus live. Fortus especially; in all the bootleg videos, the camera guy just doesn't seem interested in him, even though he's jumping roung like a mad thing...

SG

Yeah what's up with no Fortus on the bootlegs?  In November Rain from albany when he's kicking some ass on the first solo of the song I don't see him till like the last note.

BTW I do really hope Finck proves my last post wrong with CD and the shows coming up. 

I think Fortus can definetly make a big name for himself IF CD is ever released, I think he has all the makings to become a big time guitar player.

There's a chance these demos are from 2000 or 2001, before Fortus was in the band

yeah, I'm sure those demos are pretty old.

I was actually talking about the bootleg camera work from the 2002 tour.  Whenever Fortus did have a solo, no one put the camera on him.


But yeah, I can't wait to hear him on cd.

Richard has a new official Website, cool design http://www.4tus.com/
You can listen to his own stuff while you are browsing on Internet, there is a music player at the bottom of the page.  :peace:

just listening to the tunes on richards new site and hey i like it.
can see him been ble to come up with dont cry type songs.
which id love to see from the new band.
something a bit softer and less epic.

Some of his electro stuff recall me Fatboy Slim, lol.? :)
But I do like when he rocks, with an old school guitar tone, sounds pretty like something "Western", you know, Ennio Moricone, and I like that.
I think he is a MUCH more interesting artist for GN'R than the bucket. I heard some of Buckethead's solo stuff, some are great (big sure moon, I love my parents, for Mom, Colma), but most of his stuff sounds fucking weird and not interesting for GN'R.

yeah its the western part i liked the most.love his stuff on village gorilla head too.