Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Since we've been on a holiday, this GN'R track was leaked.

This is the thread for discussing the song, its lyrics etc.


Rules:
- Absolutely no links to places where youcan download the track. Posts with links will get deleted without any warning. Users posting links should know that they might get banned for doing so.

- No begging others to send you the file. This isn't a thread dedicated for filesharing.




/jarmo

Hey Jarmo!
Nice to be back!! Missed the site alot!

IRS is awsome! The quality is bad, but you can really listen that this is a great song!!

Glad forum is back up!

These are the lyrics we have so far. There is still much debate going on on the lyrics but we're in the good direction.

0:00
Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There's not anymore that I can do
All the ? they tell me, I follow you
So when you ?, that'll be the (energizers/advertisers) too? <------ must sound something like that, the same verbal tone. Anyone have suggestions?     

0:27
Wouldnt be the first time I've been gone(wrong)
Wouldnt be the last I sure have found
All the rumours I can tell, some things didn't work so well

0:37
When any way it's feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear the worst(word(s)) yet
When I need another favourite I take???
It means your life will be gone anyway???
I can't believe now and I lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
well its true...ooh...I ask, my God it was you
Gonna call the President
Gonna call into my Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24
Gonna make this a federal case
(Blow the wind up), write that out in your face
Rearrange (re-debate???) (it when your morning is noon???) <----- this one is hard too, rearrange?? it's sound more like "debate" or something? suggestions anyone?
(With the police hang together???)
(And the headlines due now???)

{Finck Solo}Oh Oh..{Finck Solo}


1:55
I've been to sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
feel like stumbling on the road
feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my shit
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long

2:17
Can I do
Ooh, oh.
I'm gonna call the President
gonna call the Private Eye
I'm gonna get the IRS
Gonna need myself the FBI

2:33
Ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you, ooh ohh
It's such a crime you now it's true oooh

{Bucket solo}

3:10
I'm gonna call the President
Gonna need myself a Private Eye
Ooh, Gonna need the IRS
I'm gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon??? re-debate???
And the police hang together???
and the headlines due???


3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

Listened twice but I don't really like it. Although the solo is pretty nice at the end.

Whoohooo. Great to be back!

I really enjoy IRS very much. Very infectious. Bucket solo could be a bit more melodic and Finck's fattened up a bit, but overall a very good track. 7/10.

Axl is the best part of the song. Great voice/melody/etc. Makes me look forward to what else he can put out.

I'm a little surprised, but not much.

oh, but is it me or does he do some variation of "oooooh" or "aaah" in almost all the new songs.  ???

So, jarmo....disregarding the quality of the recording..what do YOU think of it?

I like it. A lot. 

The scream before the bucket solo...fucking wicked.

I think it's a good sounding riff and Bucket's solo is pretty cool. I also like how long Axl holds the scream when going into Bucket's solo.

The quality is really too bad for any kind of judgement - and this song could be up to 10 years old, god only knows what version of the song was leaked - the band said many songs have three versions

I.R.S Sounds cool and promising...

Let's see how it will turn up on CD..

First and foremost

Welcome back Jarmo

Im very dissapointed the whole HTGTH and GNR have teamed up conspiracy has amounted to nothing....but I knew it wouldnt and tried to warn people...hope is a bitch in the GNR world.

As far as the song...as a demo 8/10. Axla vocals...brilliant...lyrics...average...musicianship....derivative of zeppelin, and neither loud and raw or otherwise, a lil bland.

Overall as a demo cool.

I am the only fucking one that has not bloody heard it!!!!!! FUCK!

I find the song interesting, makes me want to hear the finished product. ?

Axl sounds good, great scream going into a solo.

 :hihi:
yes axl still kicks ass !
ive herd it and don't believe it is fake either.everyone said it was fake right away NOT ME
i knew it was real from the gate.
glad to be back,keep the site alive !
rock - on peoples'

:'( Have some mercy Jarmo!!!! I just want to listen to it once!! Come on!!!!  :'(

it seems like alot of new songs have axl singing non-stop in a VERY high pitch, intense manner.

the solo is awesome. kinda reminds me of a slash solo.

i can't give a fair opinion of it though. the version i heard is awful. very "busy" sounding though.

Glad the site is back. ?I felt weird on the other board! ?I don't like what i have heard ?(IRS) because i can't hear the whole thing. ?Jarmo, are you sure this server is faster? ?just kidding. ?Glad HTGTH is back though and I am one of the first 50 or so posts on the new server! ?Whew Who!

Horsey, I was right there with ya. ?It was obviously real. ?It's a kick-ass song. ?It's also a huge relief to hear Axl's vocals. ?He sounds awesome. ?Obviously, just a demo., but what fantastic potential!!!

-Axl4Prez ?8)

PS ?Damn I missed this message board! ?This is BY FAR, the best GNR site on the 'net. ? :peace:

From what i can "hear" its promising.
However...its a Demo..so the song could change considerably before we actually here the "Real" Recording.
I wont pass actual judgement until that point in time.

At least its something...

one i thing i really love about the song is the rhythm guitar. heavy and grooving, like an old classic metal riff. (it actually reminds me a little of the guitar in "sweetleaf")


(PS - awesome site....glad it's back....my days at work were DRAGGING!)

If anyone wants to 'chat' about the demo, feel free to PM me. Especially if u havent heard it id like to give you my opinions of it.

Just heard it! It fucking rules!!!!!!!!!

Whilst the vocal melody and singing is very cool...I have to say that the basic music is very boring. I am hoping for more music along the lines of live n let die or jungle, and hoping that november rain like songs are left alone.....dont need any blurring the lines between the best rock band of all times and 70's schmaltz rock balladeering.

first of all I don't know how people got most of these lyrics cause its hard as hell to hear most of it cause it's such brutal quality, but it seem like a decent song, it would be nice to hear a real version.

Anyway here are my thoughts on the first bit of the song lyrics from Don't Try Me


I don't like this line it doesn't sound right


I think it's

"Wouldn't be the first time I'd been wrong"
"Wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found"
"With all the rumors I can tell, Some things didn't work so well"


I think this says

When you first told me you were gone
Somehow I'd known that I'd been here alone
? To all the luck gettin out of this wreck ?
? A fact that you've got to hear the worst yet ?
? When I need another favourite I take ?
You made up your mind, and off you went
I can't believe now how that lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along

I don't know. Its really bad quality, but I think it's about the GnR Breakup and the lawsuits and shit. I know it sounds like old news but Axl hasn't really said too much about it yet so, whatever

The president is David Geffen
The private Eye is to look to see what they have on him
The IRS part is to track his income on the old material
The FBI is to see if he has a case I don't know I'm just pulling this out of my ass really

What does everyone think, Am I totally wrong?

yes i knew it right away.no other voice like it.a bit higher but indeed axl's.

I thought it was okay. ?Maybe I was expecting a little more after a decade plus of writting. ?Plus, the lyrics are a little hokie.

 I love it, don't need to explaine it, I understand it, Axl's got a hot one on his hands, I can't wait ta hear the studio version and the rest. : ok:     

As a demo its cool...but the musicianship is somewhat bland....and if the lyrics were better (say as good as locomotive/sympathy for the devil)...then the song would be an all time classic......as is its just a good rock song that would have been just below civil war status on the Illusions

vocals sound fantastic though i must say

Didn't any of you guys were nervious before listening to the track? I first downloaded the 32 sec file, then the 44sec and then the complete song. I felt like I did back 6 years ago when I first heard "Oh my God". Man, I had to listen to the track at least 3 times cause the first two I didn't know what the hell whas going on..between the excitement, the adrenaline...

Anyway, despite the quality, it's a good, solid song. I can't wait to hear the finishing product. Axl sounds great.

I don't think that is right.

Dave posted these lyrics which still aren't right, but I think are alot closer:

Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna win and knock it outta your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
And the police hang together, and their headlines true

I actually think I finally got this part when I isolated the voice track a little more.? I think it's:

"Wouldn't be the first time I went wrong
Wouldn't be the last time I should've known
With all the rumors I can tell Some things didn't work well"

I don't give a hell about the lyrics!!!! I just heard the song!!!!

I've seen his set of lyrics but the first one you qouted me on was the 1:24. There axls says " natural case"
on 3:20 there axl says "federal case" like you said :)

However "Gonna win and knock it outta your face" I'm 99% positive axl says "gonna wave it, write that out in your face" Altho dave's line lays better in the story, it's in fact not closer then to what Axl sings.


but much remains open to discussion since this is a bad quality demo.  :'(

There's nothing I can do about that. I never "hyped" it. We moved the site to a new server, that's it.




/jarmo

Ahh ok, gotcha. I stand corrected. i think the second line after federal case needs some work in both cases.

true that, it's hard to tell, since his voice is high pitched too.

hmmm....you do realize that sympathy for the devil was a cover right? and you said something about wishing the music was more like live and let die, you know that is a cover as well right? by "cover" i mean a song someone else wrote and performed and made famous.

0:00
Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There's not anymore that (then) I can do
All the legions they tell me, I follow you
So when you plead the fifth, that'll be the end of time plus two //// So when you plead the fifth, that'll be the end of time it's true???? //// energizers too?

0:27
Wouldnt be the first time I've been gone (wrong) //// Wouldn't be the first time I'd been wrong
Wouldnt be the last I sure have found //// Wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found
All the rumours I can tell, some things didn't work so well

0:37
When (well) any way it's feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear the worst (word(s)) yet
When I need another favourite I take???
It means your life will be gone anyway??? I can't believe now and I lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
well its true...ooh...I am, My God it was you
Gonna call the President
Gonna call into my Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24
Gonna make this a natural case
Blow the wind up, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon??? re-debate???
With the police hang together???
And the headlines due now???

{Finck Solo}Oh Oh..{Finck Solo}


1:55
I've been to sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
feel like stumbling on the road
feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my shit
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long

2:17
Can I do
Ooh, oh.
I'm gonna call the President
gonna call the Private Eye
I'm gonna get the IRS
Gonna need myself the FBI

2:33
Ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you, ooh ohh
It's such a crime you now it's true oooh

{Bucket solo}

3:10
I'm gonna call the President
Gonna need myself a Private Eye
Ooh, Gonna need the IRS
I'm gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon??? re-debate???
And the police hang together???
and the headlines due???

3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

---------

These are I think the most important working points for us to find out?

IRS sounded average on the first few hearings... then, then it got better  : ok:
Poor quality sound recording to one side, i really quite like the track  :beer:
IRS is on my site, and no i cannot tell you the location as that would be wrong  ;)
Roll on the finished album  :peace:

could be right on quite a few points. Check my latest post with the bold text. That shows the working points, the same you just pointed out. :)

Yeah I've been monitoring' this topic.  :)

I get frustrated in the 0:37 verse it's to distorted and I can't make anything out really then I don't want to go farther. I've been trying though. What do you think the song is about?

U need to enter that avatar into my contest! :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: the bald axl, that look is hilarious!

anyhow, the demo is not good enough quality to truly judge

im sure the music is great * u really cant make much of it out*

I'm sure IRS has some deep metaphorical meaning, im pretty sure it isnt about the Internal Revenue Service.

gotta hear the finished product to judge.

from what ive heard though it is very rockin and very catchy

plus most importantly

Axl sounds like Axl of old

that was one of our biggest debates and he proved that in the studio he still has it and the touring voice was to save his throat.

I just got done listening to the real song that will probebly be on the CD. Theres lots of lil shit u CANT hear in the sound clip thats going around right now. Very bad ass song. Here are the lyrics...

Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI
Theres not anymore that I can do
All religion is that to me I follow you
When you plead the fifth that'll be the end of time plus two
Wouldnt be the first time Ive been gone
Wouldnt be the last I'm sure I'm on
All the rumours I can tell
Somethings didnt work so well
With any way it feels the same
When you first told me you were gone
So long ago but I've been here long
to all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear worst yet
when I need another favourite I take
It means your life will be gone anyway
cant believe that I was out there at all
couldn't see it coming all along
well its true ooh I am but dont forget ooh ooh
Gonna call the President
Gonna call into my Private EYe
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI
Gonna make this a federal case
Theres no way that I'll get out of your face
repeat it with you're mortgage gone
with the police hangever
and a head like you no
Oh Oh
I've been to sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
feel like stumbling on the the road
feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
maybe like I just walked in my shit
They'll be waiting on me I know
like a broken record for so long
What can I do
Ooh oh
I'M Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call the private eye
gonna get the IRS
gonna get myself the FBI
ooh what shall I do
if I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you now it's true oooooooohhh
Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
ooh, Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it right there out in your face
rearrange it when your morning is noon
and the police hang together,and their headlines true
Theres not anymore that I can do

 :beer:

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As cool as he sounds on IRS I simply do not buy that saving his voice stuff....he was trying his best, and he surely was not 'saving his voice' during the VMA's....he simply couldnt sing well live....pretty simple.

It doesnt sound like GNR... GNR sounds like Appetite For Destruction.

Well guess what? we're in 2005 not 1987 and the most current thing we've heard from the gnr camp is IRS. Soooooooooooo, I guess it sounds like GnR, cause the most current incarnation GnR (that we've seen) wrote and performed it.

I think the song is amazing! The quality is bad, but you can still hear the potential of the song. If the rest of the record is as good then Chinese Democracy will be one of the greatest albums of all time.

I have no clue. But I specially like these few bits:


I've been to sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else ? ?<----- cool line, referring too new guns?
feel like stumbling on the the road
feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
maybe like I just walked in my shit
They'll be waiting on me I know
like a broken record for so long <---- very very interesting.


ooh what shall I do
if I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you now it's true oooooooohhh

--------
very cool lyrics. The safest bet is it's about the whole proces of beginning something new. Getting away from the old. Not specificly the old band, could be about everything.

How exactly did you hear the "real song that will probably be on the CD". Are you saying you have the proper version?

Jonx

whenu guys are tryin to figure out lyrics, it has to make sense

some of the stuff u guys have listed makes no sense whatsoever like that line

"All religion is that to me I follow you"      what the hell is that? that makes no sense whatsoever.

Dont belive him..  :rant:

yeah! explain please.

I agree 100% D! That's why I ask what everyone thinks the song is about, then with that in mind we can sorta, maybe, kinda have an easier time figuring out what he says, "WHen you plead the 5th it be The end of time + 2 or its true" doesn't make sense either

I think it sounds more like "when you see my pictures and the advertisements too" or "will you be the victims and the agonizers too" or something. Like I said its hard to make out anything.

I AM REALLY PISSED OFF

I have tried to download this song 3 times now and each time I get a wrong song that is mislabeled as 'Guns N' Roses - IRS leak'

GOD DAMN IT!!

I think the vocal melody is a major grower. Once it's stuck in your head, there's no way you can get rid of it. Unfortunately, the quality is shit and the instrumentation sounds like complete sludge, so I prefer not to pass judgment on that.

From what i can hear in this song i thaught it kicks major ass...The chorus part is sooo sweet..Sounds like a classic Appetite song to me...Good to hear

i say it has to do with lots of things in the past with axl.not the future of g n' r.it was something related to his love lost with stephannie and maybe the band.a bit of ranting and rambling so.about the system in general,such as f.b.i and i.r.s.maybe you all are reading way to much into this song as if it has answers or something,cause it doesn't.

IRS will be awesome! ?The version that was leaked is just a poor quality demo, and I can`t stop listening to it. To me it sounds like GNR brought up to date. ?

wow.. if it was only a  bit cleaner and louder, it would never leave my car steroe.. the rythm guitars sound so heavy and dark.. its awsome!

I can't believe I'm on a GNR site and I can't get the direct link to download the song.? Do some of you guys actually think that your in the band or close to them, and your afraid of hurting there feelings??

The song is already leeked, there is nothing now that the managment nor Axl can do.? Do I like GNR?? Do I respect GNR?? Yes, Yes, but the fact of the matter, is that the song has already been leeked.? I already listened to the 30 second clip but can't get ahold of the longer version.? I thought I could come on here and get a direct link, but I guess not.?

Some of you guys take this stuff way too seriously.? ?

Were FANS!

Quality aside, there's things I like and don't like about IRS. Axl's voice and the rythm guitars are the highlight (especially that scream), and I think the chorus is catchy. The song needs rearranging in parts, and Axl needs to let it breathe a little. Buckethead's solo is fast, but I'm not sure its very original, I've heard him do better.

Overall 7/10 but with a little work I think it could be an 8 or 9. I'd like to hear a little more about it as opposed to 'not even in the top 10 though'.

one word: Lawsuit

No one wants to get sued. By sharing the song on asite the owner is potentially liable to get sued by the bands management

I DL it from this place... daaa

I've said this B4 on this board and I will say it again, back in like 99 - 00, dont rele remember when. But it was about 6 months B4 the first tour, I DL 4 or 5 tracks off Ch Dem using limewire. I deleted them because I didnt know how important they were, I just figured everyone had em. I then found out that no one else had em and tryed to recover them but no luck. Me and a friend listened to em. So they have been around for a very long time...

And I dont care wut anyone else thinks.

And what did they sound like?... Well just like all the shit we've heard so far...

I am not one of those who says you shouldn`t hear IRS because...........(insert reason here)

I think the more who hear it the better.

But... I understand why you can`t find it here. I speculate that Jarmo doesn`t want to piss off GNR`s management, their wishes are not to distribute unsolicited material. You piss off GNR~s management, you can have doors shut in your face like exclusive interviews, etc. And there`s the whole legal side to it. You can have a lawsuit on your hands if you post IRS.

If you really want the full version of IRS it is out there, you just have to look hard enough.

Anyone think the band put the song out on purpose? to stir a little news or somehting? it could be a version they worked on years ago and the finished version sounds alot different?

My take on the song is it is a very good song. 9 out of 10. Great lyrics with a chorus you cant get out of your head

I haven't heard it yet? :crying: it seems to be takin' down from all the original places that it could be found.
So is it mostly guitar based or what? ???

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

Izzy, i've listened to it twice and that's it. the quality is that bad.
It might be guitar driven but it's hard to hear anything, it's 2005 and the sound quality is more like the eighties  :P

well i for one do not like bh's solo.  it does not fit the song at all.  you have a bluesy, heavy guitar riff throughout, and then this speed attack tapping machine going crazy at the end.  and to whoever said bh's solo doesn't sound that original, i swear most of his solos that aren't plain bizzare sound similar to me. 

also, it seems as though the transitions are really bad.  it goes from heavy to light and back without anything to make the move.  granted, this stuff may be added as the demo was worked on. 

i can only hope that not every song on cd has a roaring bh solo on it.  blues doesn't, maddy doesn't, even chinese democracy really doesn't.  that makes me think that those are really old songs that were finished before bh came to the project.  i would guess that means irs is newer, but thats speculation.  anyways, i hope finck and fortus put forth more bluesy solos like we all know they can that slow the tempo but keep those great bends in there.  just my 2 cents...

My review?8)

Good points (x6):
- Axl's voice, this is the highligh of the song. His voice is Fantastic (have you heard that scream? :o)
- Good rythm, not too fast, not too slow, I like it.
- Good chorus
- good first little bluesy guitar solo (richard? robin?)
- Most of people don't speak enough about it: Tommy does a GREAT job on bass.
- It's just a demo, it means the final version will be better. Great potencial

Bad points (x2):
- Buckethead shred guitar solo, no feeling, heartless, useless. Bad, very bad. Must be erased or replaced.
- Rythm box there and then (real drums sound always better)

Note: 7/10 (could evolve to 8/10 with a good studio version)

No. Somebody give me the goddamn track? :crying:

Better quality than the Hollywood Rose recordings? ???

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

I think your full of shit. You just finished listening to a version of IRS that is much clearer and that will most probably be on cd? And before that you deleted them and couldn't recover it..........then how did you finish listening to a good quality version of IRS? bullshit.

^^^^^^^ yeah i agree, bs definitely. 

Whatever your opinion on the 7 songs we've heard so from the new band, anyone else think none of them (except perhaps the title track) are among those that will be on the new album?

I really like IRS, Axl's scream with Buckets solo its just awesome Axl still has it!

am i the only one that loves the music but doesnt like axl voice at all?

i mean the first time i heard didnt reminded me of axl at ALL , sounded like a high pitched girl singing to be honest.

Just a point to anyone who dislikes the lyrics.. considering this is a demo, the lyrics may have changed by now.

I heard it now ?;)
Axl sounds like a woman >:(
I like the song, it's great. It reminds me of The Immigrant Song :)

I give it five thumbs up out of five
?? : ok:? : ok:? : ok:? : ok:? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy ?:smoking:

yeah, and not only that...........we are not even sure what Axl sings on the demo, lots of stuff to be transcribed. And it's realy hard to hear. So the lyrics people read now, or what they make of the demo themselves, could be all wrong. That goes for me too. But so far I really dig what he sings.

unfortunally thats true :-\

that would be me. I especially didn't like the way it stops and then starts low again and goes really high...it seems I've heard that so many times before. I don't mind shredding when its done well - I recently heard a Zakk Wylde solo on a song called 'Bleed for Me' which I thought was awesome.

I haven't actually heard the track, but it's nice to see that BH's stuff is still there. ;D

I think the track is from 2003, could be a reason why Bucket's stuff still remains.  The track ROCKS hard....I love the 20+ second scream at the end with Bucket shredding in the background.  I think this album will surpass AFD when it comes out.  IRS is simply amazing.  Maybe this will spark Axl to release this damn thing once and for all.

What gets me is that I didnt hear one conventional chord.  Musically its all over the place.

my thoughts on IRS?
it shows alot of promise as a demo, but it's nothing to get too excited about
if anything, it shows there are songs there, and that Axl hasnt gone completely industrial as far as harder rocking tunes are concerned
BH solo is tasty IMO but that first solo (Fink?) is messy and sounds directionless
Axls voice sounds pretty good, so all in all, a solid sounding song  : ok:

Trunk said that the cd-r with the IRS was on Piazza's fan mail. He said it could be there even before the MSG '02 gig, when they meet Axl. So, this version could be from the 2002 sessions or even older.

About the song: I really love it. Can't stop listening to it. And, despite some users view, I LOVE the Buckethead solo.  :beer:

ya think axl knows about the leak by now.im pretty sure of it,i wonder what he is thinking.he would prolly like some of the feedback and not some of it either.id like to be a fly on his computer right now lol.

i would say it sounds like someone taped it off the radio using shitty equipment that's all. they may have used a cell phone to record it or something else that has bad sound. i would say that this is almost definitely from the radio (maybe the reason the intro isn't on it) and it was almost definitely not an intentional leak.

im not trying to be a dick... but do you actually believe that?

I admit, thinks look good IF CD ever does come out, I know it's going to rule, but one of the greatest albums of all time? Not too sure about that.

Still find it utterly bizarre how the whole IRS story didn't get published on Blabbermouth.

I enjoy this song the more I hear it. With a bit of tightening, a better, less noodled bucket solo and this could be a third or fourth single.

I like it.  Axl's vocals are fantastic, no one can spit out a line like he can.  The BH solo didn't bother me, I think the song has a good groove to it.

Yeah i find this a little strange aswell, Blabbermouth are usually pretty up to date with any developments in the Guns N Roses world. XFM were the first big media outlet to pick it up, strange considering its only a small radio station that broadcasts over London (digital and web excluded). All the other media sites seem to just have recycled this report for themselves.

It certainly sounds like a promising song, i especially like the last minute where Axl screams over Buckets solo, very nice indeed! Still the quality makes it hard to judge. Cant wait for the final version, it cant be that far off.

Jonx

To me it's obvious that the guy used the pc mic to record the song. He just put the mic near the stereo speakers and started to record with the windows voice recorder. That's why the quality sucks. He could put a cable linking the stereo (with the tape) to the pc. It's quite simple...

love it...its different but good. This song is hard to get bored of. Great beat, two totally different guitar solos, excellant chorus, Axl singing with alot of feeling and conviction (no surprise there  :hihi:). I like the solos, one touchy feely emotional one, then bucket shredding. Axl sounds pretty good, i like the scream. This song gets me even more excited about Chinese Democracy.......and its just a demo!!.It also further proves the fact that we will certainly NOT be dissapointed with this album.. Axl your killin' me(and us)!!!! just release it!!!

The more and more i listen to this song i just love it..I still think it could be intentional so the fans arent suprised by what the music sounds like...and wow that scream..Holy shit its cool...And ya im glad they got ride of Buckethead..Hes a good guitar player but he has no feeling in it..The song is sweet

I like it! I'm gonna try not to judge the song that much cause its a Fuzzy Demo, but what I can make out I like. ?I like it but I'm not gonna go crazy and say OH MY GOD its the best fucking song ever! ?It may be, but I'll have to wait for the album version to make that judgment. ?What this song has done is to stir up interest in CD. I personally had lost interest in the album, but this song has Peaked my interest in a way it hasn't been since the 2002 tour. ?I've had friends listen to the song and they're like cool I'll have to pick that up when it comes out. So I think this leak has done Axl some good, I hope he?ll hurry up and get the damn thing out while interest is Peaked!

CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jarmo's message board "goes down" or so he says during the time that  the IRS clip is released.....hmmmm, seems pretty convenient if you ask me.  so jarmo, whats the deal?  Are you the reason that CD hasn?t been released?  maybe you've got axl rose tied up over seas?  Maybe you are axl??????????????????

I thought the track was fantastic and I hope this whole ordeal promps them to do something proactive.

the first thing that struck me from the first 32 second clip that was released was the drumming.  nice heavy bass drum, robin's guitar playing is fucking fantastic, great headphones song

Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There?s not anymore that I can do
All the legions said to me, I?ll follow you
When you plead the fifth, in the end of time is true

0:27
Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time should I?m gone
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well

0:37

With any way it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear worst yet
When I need another favorite I take
It means your life will be gone anyway
Can?t believe that I was out there at all
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
Well its true...ooh...I am, But don?t forget ooh ooh
Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24 (need help with this)
Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna win and knock it outta your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
And the police hang together, and their headlines true
[Finck Solo]

1:55
I've been too sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
Feel like stumbling on the road
Feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my shit
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long



2:17
What can I do?
Ooh, oh.
I'M Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private eye,
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna get myself the FBI.

((PS to me it seems here a part of the song has been edited out)

2:33
ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you now it's true

[Bucket solo]

3:10
Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna win and knock it outta your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
And the police hang together, and their headlines true


3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

Whats up everyone...
Id first lik to say that after the board being down for awhile, I have realized that this is hands down the best gnr mesesage board. no contest. We all have our differences when it comes to gnr, but atleast its constructive and organized. Jarmo and company run a very professional type site and the posters for the most part are cool too. Good stuff we have here...lets keep it up

as for IRS....
When I first heard the song I was a little disappointed. The song sounded disorganized to me. But after hearing thru the shitty quality, the song is amazing. I love it a lot. I love the way Axl sings on all parts, I love the tempo changes of the song, the background vocals/effect, and the solos. I can only imagine what the studio will sound like.


During the initial phases of discussuion with this song i read a lot of "its real good but is it 10 yrs worth". My question si what does that "sound" sound like?
IMO, IRS is a very good song. Is it a comeback/big gun type...I personally dont think so. If it was another band not named GNr doing this then the song would get great reviews. But give the circumstances with GNR, the song is very good. Just comes with the territory I guess. So if this song turns out to be a "filler" we are gonna be in for a real treat.

The song has a catchy chorus and cool hooks. Cant get the thing out of my head.

Keep up the great work...HTGTH,GNR fans and of course...GN"F"R!.....
Please make soon the word!

First off I dont get what u mean. How do u not get what i just said. I download about 5 songs off limewire like 4 years ago then deleted them about 2 weeks later... I then downloaded (today) IRS which sounded like any other MP3 a band would put out. Then I took the lyircs from it and put it here. Whats there not to get?

100% truth, I had 4 or 5 tracks off CH Dem, I dont even remember the names. One was CH Dem i know for shure. I had no idea what the band was up to at this time, No idea who was in the new line up, how long they had been working on them. I thought of it as no big deal. So I deleted them to make room for other songs since it was a shity PC with little memory. End of storie. When I got done listening to them I thought "humm not bad, sounds like a good rock band"

Unless u guys can tell me how to go threw my old computer and some how find files I deleted from that long ago. If thats possible I can get you 4 or 5 tracks....

I think the song is mediocre at  best. No real melody. A  lot of random  noise. Very weak overall. Better than Rhiad but not close  to what the old  band put out. 3 out of 10, generously speaking. I hope the rest of the album is not this way or GNR is heading for a train wreck.

Its just a demo and this song is much better than most singles on the radio. This song is catchy, the chorus gets stuck in your head.? Like I said its just a demo and we have not even heard the intro, and i am sure the solos will be changed and other stuff like that.? Id give it a 8/10. This song is on the same level as YCMB. And the song has been pretty much 90% postive for gnr fans? on the boards.

No you're not!

This isn't gonna be a IRS vs (VR song) thread.

It would be pointless...... Everybody has their own personal tastes.





/jarmo

There?s not anymore that I can do
All the legions said to me, I?ll follow you
When you plead the fifth, in the end of time is true

0:27
Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time should I?m gone
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well


are there typos in that?

when u plead the fifth,in the end of time is true   *that makes no sense, that cant be the lyric

wouldnt be the last time should im gone *once again any songwriter worth a shit wouldnt write that, that makes no sense either

none of that really flows or makes sense.

I cant figure out that part. Any ideas?

I havent really tried to figure out the lyrics yet

but ill try tonight

it is hard to decipher

i like most of what u have though

I just want everyone to not only listen to the lyrics but to also keep a creative mind while figuring them out. whatever anyone figures out read over and make sure that it fits together and adds up and that it seems like something axl would write and say


alot of that is very good though Dave, i have no idea how u made all that out! good job : ok:

i think its

when you plead the 5th, that'll be the end of time if true.

hes saying by not saying anything/taking the easy way out, your indirectly saying what he doesnt want to believe...and as a result...they are done


wouldnt be the the last I should have known

I had a lot of help from cd.com and mygnr.com.
And people should remember when  trying to figure out the lyrics, most times every two lines rhyme.

i also think the lyric is sin not shit....

this song convinces me that Axl and this band are going to be able to deliver a normal structured song. This song can go on radio right now and do well. A song like Maddy is a fan song.

yeah but a song is way more than lines rhyming

they have to go together to tell a story and make sense.

thats all im saying, just make sure the lines rhyme but also go together and make sense.

it easily has the potential to be a hit single.

Dave  great fuckin job dude!!


i listened while following the lyrics u put out and i must say u are at least 95 percent accurate

that morning noon line, i have no clue what he says there though.

but great job

and i must say after listening to this song again IT KICKS SO MUCH FUCKIN ASS! i mean seriously this is a shitty demo and it fuckin blows anything i have heard in the last who knows how long out of the fuckin water!

it grows on u and when it does, holy shit does it grow!

the only thing i dont much care for is Finck's solo in the middle, the outro solo fuckin rules though, i still think finck should stick to rhythm.

anyhow great job Dave and whoever helped out! : ok:

I love the slow solo, but it sounds like Buckethead to me, I don't know why everyone says it's Finck. I don't really like the second one, I hope it's improved (and I'm sure it will be) on the album.

I tell u what, i never doubted Axl all that much but honestly whatever small doubts i had have been totally fucking erased

Do u hear those fuckin High notes he hits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!


for those who dont like it, i know why

its cause u cant really understand what axl is saying *thats why i didnt like it at first*

read Dave's excellent interpretation of the lyrics while listening

it sheds a whole new brand new light on the song

i remember not digging Oh My God very much for the same reason, but once i read the lyrics while listening i was instantly hooked

I keep rockin the fuck out to IRS

I think it is amazing

AXL'S voice is the greatest rock voice ever

he is still the greatest, that shit is so amazing, i feel like a little nutswingin bitch right now but i cant help it

cause right now im truly in awe of Axl and what he has done with this song alone

if this really isnt top 10 then Axl will change the music universe

its that great to me.

First off, big HUGE thank you to discobiscuit1 for your help.  :beer:

Secondly. HOLY F'N crap!!  :drool: The quality isn't the best. I had to turn my volume alllllll the way up, and my cats kept looking around trying to figure out where the sound was coming from, but OMG!!! I am soooooooooo excited now. This song sounds fantastic.

This is something all 3 says

"The leak and rumoured emergence of other new tracks ?Madagascar? and ?The Blues? have all sparked rumours that the new GNR album ?Chinese Democracy? will get a release sometime in the near future, with some reports claiming that the album will finally hit stores in November this year."

rumored emergence? unless I am reading this wrong, are they saying demos of those 2 are floating about too?

Scree

The fact that Fortus has touring commitments until SEPTEMBER should make us fans  be a lil more realistic....at BEST CD will be released december....chances are yet another dead year.

So with that in mind and no forseeable release date, enjoy IRS cos the wait wont be over soon no matter how you look at it.

The IRS discussion thread

IRS sounded average on the first few hearings... then, then it got better  ok
Poor quality sound recording to one side, i really quite like the track  beer
IRS is on my site, and no i cannot tell you the location as that would be wrong  Wink
Roll on the finished album  peace

Yes Im discussing the impact that IRS seems to be having and that so many people view it as a sign od CD's release.

As for the song, Axls vocals are great, musicianship a tad boring, solos are bland, and id like to hear the drums and percussion to be beefed up. As ive said before if the lyrics were as good as a song like locomotive or sympathy for the devil then it'd be an all time classic, as is its just a very good rock song.

Though its only a demo id say its one rung below a song like civil war, and thats a compliment.

If there are 10 songs on this album that are better then it'll be a fantastic disk.

Axl's vocal melodies are great, he proves that he has the talent, but he sounds like it'd be Hollywood Rose again. Since it's a demo the song's structure is not good and doesn't seem to be finished. The music is mediocre and sounds the same as the OMG-CD-Riyadh style, so it can be the 'new direction' which is kinda sad. Finck's solo is terrible, he's playing out of tone even in the studio  :nervous: Rid of this guy, please, he can't play lead for Guns N' Roses  :no: BTW Buckethead's solo is quite great  :yes:

I think this is pre Fortus...listen to the music on his site, Im very impressed, very modern n cool, he would be great to add rythm and lead. Maybe some of the rythm here is Paul Huge.

Besides the poor quality, it sounds like a very promising and good song. I think i'll love it once I get to hear it properly.

One thing that's interesting is that this song was mentioned in the RS article (January 2000), Buckethead joined in October. Possibly he plays both solos on that song, the beautiful one and the one introduced by Axl's long scream.

I really like IRS

but the slow Solo sucks! especially  the beginning is bad. I hope they improved the solo

i think he is saying

when u plead the fifth it would be? the end of time its true

wouldnt be the first time ive beenwrong
wouldnt be the last time i shouldve known

youngunner was definitely right about those.


here is that other verse Dave, i think it says

gonna make this a federal case
gonna win and knock it out of your face
REarrange it with your MORAL Fool *im leaning towards Fool,would that make sense?
where the FLEET *paparazzi maybe*hang together and their headlines are true now


i dont think it says police, sounds like one syllable if u listen over and over and over. thats what i came up with, could be police but read the lyrics while u listen, after a few listens it sounds like MORAL Fool instead of morning noon.

second time around it says

REINVENT it with your moral avenue/attitude instead of REARRANGE it with your moral fool

I think this song is about Tabloids/paparazzi, lying journalist, all the bullshit about his goin crazy weightgain, maybe a bit with the old band.

just all the rumors and how people believe anything that is printed.

thats my interpretation

Yes, I think CD can be one of the greatest albums of all time. The new songs we've heard are really something to be excited about and I think IRS is the best one of them. The more I listen to it the more I like it.

:no:
Out of tone? Give me a break... You sure can not like the guy, but don't start to create false arguments.

It may be "just a demo" but I can tell I like the song a lot and it is definitely the best new song I have heard in the last 5 years

I think those two lines are:

Wouldn't be the frist time I went wrong
Wouldn't be the last time I should've known.

Argree totally, "when you plead the fifth?" when all you people are saying it's "FIFTH" I clearly hear a 2-syllable word. there is no way in hell that word is fifth. for that matter I'm almost 100% that he doesn't say "the end of time" in fact i think what we have as "end of time" is one word



I agree? : ok:
well almost, I have

wouldn't be the first time I'd been wrong
wouldn't be the last, I'm sure I've found

Dude, Nobody have said that this is going to be AFD II, so stop with this sound is not GNR, GNR was always a mix of lot of sounds. As for Robin solo, is good but coud be better towards the end, but still good. ?:yes: I know that you wish that Slash would be in it but he's not, LIVE AND LET DIE. As for B'head solo if you like the same repetitive "see how fast can I play the same notes" guitar work, well it's up to you, to me it's boring. ?:no:
As for the demo, it's quite good but difficult to hear, what I like it's Axl's scream with the heavy sound, that doesn't come from B'head solo, I suppose is Tommy(Superb.) So I give it a 7.

You basically answered your own request for better mixing of the drums. It's a demo, with low sound quality.


I don't know if you heard any of the Use Your Illusion demos, but for example, on the "Bad Obsession" demo it's just Izzy and a drum machine. The finished version sounds quite different and has actual drums on it. ;)



/jarmo

jarmo,
   I asked earlier..but it got buried quick:

What do you think of it?  I'm curious to hear your opinion...

We can only judge it as it is and hope that the direction and production goes certain directions.

I don't like to "review" songs on unfinished low quality demos. That clip didn't make me stop the playback and skip to the next song, so I guess I like what I heard. ?;)

Axl sounds great though. Not a surprise to me, but for all those "he can't sing anymore" people it must be a bit weird. Of course they'll say that the song is old and that he can't sing today. ?:hihi:




/jarmo

Ok ill add another point of view i have..Like i said i love the song to death..And id could be a 2000 version for all we know..Axl sounds AMAZING and hasnt even come close to losing his touch..Still has the rasp when he needs and and i love the scream and the ending..Hopefully no one bashes me for this cause its jusut my opinion but its really lacking a good..Shall i say Slash solo...Or just someone that can play guitar better..Zakk,Slash,Ace or someone...But other then the solos i love the song...But i think Slash and Axl need to reunite desperately

0:00
Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There's not anymore that I can do
All the ? they tell me, I follow you
So when you ?, that'll be the (energizers/advertisers) too? <------ must sound something like that, the same verbal tone. Anyone have suggestions? ? ? ?

0:27
Wouldnt be the first time I've been gone(wrong)
Wouldnt be the last I sure have found
All the rumours I can tell, some things didn't work so well

0:37
When any way it's feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear the worst(word(s)) yet
When I need another favourite I take???
It means your life will be gone anyway???
I can't believe now and I lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
well its true...ooh...I ask, my God it was you
Gonna call the President
Gonna call into my Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24
Gonna make this a federal case
(Blow the wind up), write that out in your face
Rearrange (re-debate???) (it when your morning is noon???) <----- this one is hard too, rearrange?? it's sound more like "debate" or something? suggestions anyone?
(With the police hang together???)
(And the headlines due now???)

{Finck Solo}Oh Oh..{Finck Solo}


1:55
I've been to sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
feel like stumbling on the road
feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my shit
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long

2:17
Can I do
Ooh, oh.
I'm gonna call the President
gonna call the Private Eye
I'm gonna get the IRS
Gonna need myself the FBI

2:33
Ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you, ooh ohh
It's such a crime you now it's true oooh

{Bucket solo}

3:10
I'm gonna call the President
Gonna need myself a Private Eye
Ooh, Gonna need the IRS
I'm gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon??? re-debate???
And the police hang together???
and the headlines due???


3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

Hey guys how about this?

gonna make this a federal case
gonna win and wave it, right out in your face

anyway this is what I have up to that point

"IRS" - Guns N' Roses?

gonna call the president
gonna call that private eye
gonna get the IRS
gonna need the FBI

There's not anymore that I can do
With all the legions that tell me "I'll follow you"
?So when you see the pictures and the advertisements too?
OR
?will you be the victims and the agonizers too?

It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong
It wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found
With all the rumors I can tell
some things didn't work so well

Well anyway it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
Somehow I'd known that I'd been here alone
? To all the luck gettin out of this wreck ? (I have no idea)
? A fact that you've got to hear the worst yet ? (I have no idea)
? When I need another favourite I take ? (I have no idea)
then you made up your mind, and off you went
I can't believe, now, how that lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along

"well it's due"
"Oh?", I asked, "My god! It was you?"

gonna call the president
gonna call myself a private eye
gonna need the IRS
gonna get the FBI

gonna make this a federal case
gonna win and wave it right out in your face

Considering it's a demo version I kinda liked it. I mean I've listened to it several times and liked the feel ... But I have to acknowledge that I didn't even try to look up for the lyrics ... I hardly understand the chorus anyway.
One thing for sure, we hadn't seen it coming so it was a total surprise and now I'm eager to hear the final version that's for sure !  ;D

--------
gonna make this a federal case ?<------ yes, correct, i was wrong on 1:14 with "natural" case. it's both "federal" indeed
gonna win and wave it, right out in your face <-------- ?Gonna ?"W" it, write that out in your face. BTW: I can't hear the "in" part of "win" so it can't be that.

Damn, I listened to it million times already......trying to figure out the lyrics with you guys. The song hooked me for sure. Awesome

how about this?

gonna make this a federal case
gonna wave it, right there, out in your face

Yes, I think that fits on 3:20. good find!
I'm still having problems with the same line round 1:24
it's sounds like it's starts with a "B"  .......... right there, out in your face, or does the sing the same as 3:20?

I think its the same! He probably just repeats that verse.

ok, cool, let's stick to them for now.  :)

how about these lines:

All the (1) they tell me, I follow you
So when you (2), that'll be the (3) too



1. sounds something like "legions", are there other words close to that?
2. So when you..... something that sounds like  "plead" but it it must fit with number 3 too. If 3 is "advertisers" then plead wouldnt make much sense?
3. that'll be...... something that sounds like "advertisers" "energizers"?

You know...

...I thought it sounded quite like 'religion', actually.

But y'know...What with getting it in context n' all...

I'm pretty sure its all the legions who tell me, "I'll follow you!"

the next part is har to figure out

will you be the buisiness and the advertisers too? ????
When you plead to bitches and the advertisers too ?:)
Will you be a witness and the prosecuter too?
So when you see the pictures and the advertisements too ?:no:
will you be the victims and the agonizers too?

I don't know man I just can't hear it yet.

I'm almost positive it's not religion

i don't really care whether you think axl should reunite with slash or not, any boneheaded casual fan of gnr would say that (not saying you are one of those) but to lump ace (i assume ace frehley) in there as someone that "can play guitar better" is completely ridiculous. if you honestly think that ace frehley can play guitar better than finck, fortus, buckethead or even me you are crazy. come on man, you may like the way ace plays better but to say he is a better guitar player is completely ignorant. anybody that knows about playing guitar would tell you that ace is not exactly a great player.

hmmm, perhaps we should ask Axl..... Anyone seen him lately?  :hihi:

Right on badintentions! Being a guitar player myself, I have to say everything I've heard by BH is pretty fucking good, he was incredible live, the guy is a maniac and if you don't like his solo's (or think KISS solo's are better) then you have issues. Sorry, Just my opinion. Personally I think the solo sounds alot like like a Slash solo

He was over at my place yesterday but he didn't feel like talking about the IRS leak? :hihi:

Instead we just hung out and played GTA  :rofl:

I like the song , love buckets solo.  : ok:

 :hihi:  : ok:

This song gets greater and greater with every listen. The whole vibe and attitude of the osng is great.

This is new gnrs YCBM. Same type of rocker. Great stuff.

As people have pointed out...this demo def shows that Axl can still sing. Whether its just spitting lyrics, a chorus or wailing. Hes still got it.

The music side is great as well. that middle part with Finck and Axl is so hooky. And Buckets speed complements this song. I love it.

And if this is not on the A list of song{whether that tunrs out to be true or not} is also another promising thing. This song is as good if not better than any single out there right now. I just heard the new NIN single. Its so boring. This has energy and everything. I would put this song up there with the new Audioslave single.

If this doesnt turn out to be a big gun, I think im never going to listen to another album ever again.

Keep in mind it`s a demo and not the finished product. But from the demo I think IRS will be phenominal.

is there any way we can make the quality better? Anyone in here have some knowlege on thiS?

With work there are many programs that can improve the quality somewhat....so far the people who have tried have simply made it sound much worse (computerised sounding)

I think I could do a pretty good job improving it...but honestly, I have heard the bare bones of a new GNR song and dont see the point, I will hear a better version when CD is released or the actual track is leaked.

i only hurd the 43 sec clip and it sounded kool

just heard the song, and it fucking rocks! 8)

I like it, hope to hear the clear version some day. Everything else is goog but I hope a little bit effort to the guitar parts. I like Finck better than Buckethead in this song. Finck has more style in this demo, although Finck's "solo" is very limited. Finck is also more melodic player. This song is a little bit above of an average GNR songs but great song for today's music scene. 

He can't play and these notes are false, not because he plays the wrong bars, but because his fingers fuck up every note. Sad but true, the world's worst lead guitarist.

how could the "world's worst lead guitarist" play for cirque de soliel (sp?) ? they only hire excellant excellant musicians for that. you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to guitar if you say that. you may not like the way he plays but that does not make him bad.

Finck's got a sloppy style. He's a good guitar player but his style just sucks

LOL, I've been playing guitar for 14 years now, my brither is a musician, I have a lot of friends who work in the music industry, and ALL of them think that Finck sucks. Sucks really badly. If you can't hear it, it's your problem.

If he was really such a bad player he wouldn't have played for NIN or GnR.

He can't play the solo for patience very well IMO. Even I can play THAT solo, it's easy. I think his "style" does kinda blow.

hahaha....if you have been playing 14 years and you think finck sucks then you may want to get a new hobby there buddy. i have been playing for 11 years myself, toured in bands and had an indie label put out a record. i know what i'm talking about and i'm pretty sure the people that select the musicians for cirque du soliel probably know a little something as well seeing as how they are very much know for the the musicians they select. seriously though...if you have played guitar for that long, time to pick up something else, preferably non musical....knitting perhaps?

lol. He plays the solo intentionally different. It's not because he can't play the original solo. IMO the new one sounds much better

Ok i should have uses Ace or Zakk as an example but i dont think it sounds like Slash at all...I think it just need a better solo thats all

its not really supposed to sound like slash. i don't think axl went out and tried to get the 2 guitarests that most sounded like slash. i think he was going for something differant.....possilbly part of the reason slash isn't still playing with him? go figure....

little help? via pm of course. anyone?

I don't know. I really quite like everything we've head. the 3 old new songs, and IRS. I think when it's finished, it'll be a great jam..

but I don't think it's gonna be one of the greatest albums ever. I'm sure there's gonna be at least 2 or 3 songs that we've never heard of that will knock us fans off our feet, but I don't know...

Greatest Albums only come along once or twice a generation. They had Appetite, and I think they should be satisfied that it's so legendary and just have fun with it from now on. VR did that. Their album isn't one of the greatest of all time, but I do love it. I think Axl isn't satisfied to do something like that. In his never ending quest to try to bury the past, including AFD, he just links himself closer to it by trying to top it. I know he can, but if that's his main focus, I don't think he ever will.

i tried with the lyrics for 2 hours last night.

it has to have some sort of court/justice type theme.

its hard though i mean the way axl sings it sounds like 5 different things.

i still cant figure out OH MY GOD whether or not he says "to live in a tradeoff, believe you own version or something else.

Oh well, the possibilities are endless

Yeah, when I heard that I was very very impressed, sounds like Axl is really pushing himself with the vocals on the new stuff!

I know he wasnt looking for another slash..But im saying it would sound better with a better solo

Wow, so you all heard IRS?
I'm seriously behind you in information retrieval.

Still, I'd say the solo can't be better.

I have forced myself to listen to this a few times.. not very good.  The lyrics are just.. cornball.

And whoever compared this to YCBM... tell me you are joking.  There are some promising parts but to compare it to YCBM?? 

His voice was high pitched and VERY feminine.  The solo was awful.. the scream was ok but not memorable. (yes I know, the quality is horrible.. its just a demo)  But If I heard welcome to the jungle with bad quality, it will still kick ass.

Every time I hear there is a new song (madagascar/chinese dem/Silk Worms/IRS/Rhiad) I am disapointed.  I mean is axl's goal to throw out songs that are not very good.. is that suppose to make us happy?  Not ONE of the songs that was released was a great song.. not one. I wouldnt waste a burnable cd on one of the songs to tell the truth. (I know I know, it must be a part of some master plan) Oh my god was halfway decent, along with The Blues.  But who wants to wait 10 years for a halfway decent song. 

I love GNR.. UYI 1 is in my car sterio as we speak, and I am wearing a gnr shirt, but with every song that is released (or leaked) I get more and more discouraged.  Not once has there been a true glimmer of hope for the new album.   I hope I am wrong and the cd will rock.. I honestly do. 

The only reason I would ever listen to this song more than once, is that I am a GNR fan. 

Or, maybe they are too advanced for you, love.  :D

Yes yes yes. Muchly.

New GNR is a lot more...Out there.

It's not just Welcome to the Jungles anymore.

I'm not complaining.

I love depth in songs, which is what I'm sure we'll be getting.

did you become a new member just to say all that?

To show how you are behind. well its just a matter of taste.

Not as a gnr fan, I'd say
This is what all the true rock devotees are waiting for.

I 'll say it once again.

I might very well be in the minority here but it is my opinion that none of the songs we've hears so far (except for perhaps the title track) will be on the album itself.

Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There?s not anymore that I can do
All the legions said to me, I?ll follow you
When you plead the fifth baby, then anytime is true

0:27
Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time I should have known
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well

0:37

With any way it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear worst yet
When I need another favorite I take
It means your life will be gone anyway
Can?t believe that I was out there at all
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
Well it?s true...ooh...I am,
But don?t forget ooh ooh
Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24 (need help with this)
Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna win and I?ll get outta your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
And the police hang together, and their headlines true now
[Finck Solo]




1:55
I've been too sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
Feel like stumbling along the road
Feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my shit (skin/sin?)
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long



2:17
What can I do?
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private eye,
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna get myself the FBI.

((PS to me it seems here a part of the song has been edited out)

2:33
ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you now it's true
   
[Bucket solo]

3:10
Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna win and I?ll get outta your face
Rearrange it with your morning at noon?
And the police hang out, and their headlines true


3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

Here's mine so far...

the lines I can't make out are in italics

"IRS" - Guns N' Roses

0:00
gonna call the president
gonna call that private eye
gonna get the IRS
gonna need the FBI

0:12
There's not anymore that I can do
With all the legions that tell me "I'll follow you"
?So when you see the pictures and the advertisements too?
OR
?will you be the victims and the agonizers too?

0:27
It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong
It wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found
With all the rumors I can tell
some things didn't work so well

0:38
Well anyway it feels the same
When you first told me you were gone
Somehow I'd known that I'd been here alone
? To all the luck gettin out of this wreck ?
? A fact that you've got to hear the worst yet ?
? When I need another favourite I take ?
? then you made your up mind, and off you went ?
I can't believe, now, how that lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:06
"well it's due"
"Oh?", I asked, "My god! It was you?"

1:14
gonna call the president
gonna call myself a private eye
gonna need the IRS
gonna get the FBI

1:24
gonna make this a federal case
gonna wave it, right there, out in your face
? Reinvent it with your ball and his hand ?
? While the police hang him around their head like you now ?

1:34
(guitar solo)
Ooohhh...Aahhhh...

1:56
? I feel like I'm blowing the top of my head ?
? When I sing it, what the hell, like its somebody else ?
? Haven't I somewhere or way to walk ?
? Feeling like I'm crippled inside of this song ?
? You feel like a rhinestone diamond gem ?
? Baby like a sulfur to my skin ?
? You could have been wasted all day long ?
? Like a broken record that doesn't know ?

2:18
And I do... oooooooooo-oohhh!

2:22
gonna call the president
gonna call a private eye
gonna get the IRS
gonna get myself the FBI

2:33
oooo!
What shall I do
? If I gave my heart to you ?
Ohhhh!
? Yes, I can cry, you know it's true ?

2:49
(Guitar Solo)

3:10
gonna call the president
gonna get myself a private eye
ooooo!
gonna need the IRS
gonna get the FBI

3:20
gonna make it a federal case
gonna wave it, right there, out in your face
? Reinvent it when you're bawling at noon ?
? when the piece hang over in their headlines too ?

3:31
Not anymore that I can do

i just have to say again, this song rocks. the finished version will be amazing and hard as hell im sure. i was very pleased to hear a "rocker" like this. although i really do like the big epics, this reminded me more of AFD.

Buckets solo is awesome, and im sure you 2 "ace" guitarist who were having a pissing contest on the last page should reconize that. "ive been playing guitar for 14 years and i know what im talking about, and thats why Finck sucks" ::) please......calm down and reconize this as a DEMO!!! there will be better things to come

This song does remind me of YCBM why would I be joking? This song is just a DEMO, so take it as that.
The scream was incredible what are  you talking about it was just ok? I have not heard a scream like that in  years for any rock song, and that is just axl singing live in the studio. Wait til he can just do the scream and add it into the song. As for Axls voice being femine I think it sounds amazing, and listen to SCOM off of AFD,  he sounds pretty much the same.

If you were disapointed with a song like madagascar, then you will never be happy and no matter how great a new axl song is you are going to bash it.  Madagascar is one of the best gnr songs ever.

You are an Axl bash and that is fine, I am sure you are not really new to this board and just some one who wants to bash Axl under a different name.

I thought his post was honest as hell, and extremely fair. Just because he doesn't like the song doesnt mean he's a shit face.

The minute someone doesn't like the song, it's "too advanced" for them or whatever. And "none of these songs will be on the album". Then what the fuck will? Chinese Democracy HAS to be on Chinese Democracy, and it's a 3rd rate rocker.

I like it, I think it's cool, but if I waited 10 years, I want something that blows the other shit away (even if it's completely different. I love different) If not, then just release it, who cares?

I personally do like the song a lot, I think it'll be cool. I like Blues a lot as well, and Oh My God definitely grew on me. But why condem this guy for his opinion? It's just as valid as all yours and mine.

I would not have said anything if he did say anything about me comparing it to YCMB

This fuckin' sucks!!!!

i wanna hear this song more then anythin'!!!!!!

I dont care who plays guitar on this site, it doesnt take a musician to know that the solo Finck played before SCOM on the 2002 tour was some of the worst fuckin shit ever played from an arena stage.


He is ok but ive said it a million times, u cant replace a legend like Slash with a Robin Finck.

Just like VR couldnt have any old frontman singing for them, they had to go get a Big Gun frontman

Finck would be a nice 2nd guitarist but they still need that Buckethead style type of guitarist to replace Slash with. Bucket was suitable, Finck isnt

Yes yes.. this is all too much for me. ?I nearly passed out reading the lyrics, they were so incredibly deep. ?

dave-gnfnr2k - When I read your post comparing this to YCBM, I could have swore it was about quality. ?I thought you were saying this song was on par with YCBM.. which I think is crazy. ?If I am wrong, and you were not saying that, then I apologize. ?

"the days of welcome to the jungle are over." ?My god... I didn't know that.. I guess the days of Record Sales are over then. ?Are you saying that axl is no longer trying to make hits like Welcome to the jungle? ?Because if Axl is going to stop writing hard edged rock songs.. then why be a fan?

I understand that this is a demo. ?This song simply does not sound that great. ?You can clean it up, edit it a bit, change a few things around... its just not great.  You can't turn shit into apple pie.  I am just stating my opinion, just like you are, but the second someone isn't kissing axls butt, they are an axl basher. ?God forbid I have an opinion that differs from yours. ?Do you know what also makes me fear for the quality of CD? Whenever I crank up "the blues," or "Madagascar", everyone in the room yells at me to turn the crap off. ?These are people that like gnr.. that scares me. ?I get pissed because I want to like the new stuff, but it just isn't that good.

The guitar solo - I will rephrase what I said. ?That Buckethead solo just does not sound good on this song. ?It doesn't fit. ?


I did not just now make this name to bash the song.. I have been around the board and site for a looonnnnng time. ?Nothing that I read makes me want to post. ? I read a lot of stuff. but I dont see a point in putting down a post on "when will CD be released" type threads. ?"ohh I totally think that 2005 is the year" ?Come on people, if I wan to masturbate I will do it in the shower. ? I will post when there is something worthwhile to post. ?When a new song is leaked, I post. ?If it was an amazing song, or even a good song, I would have posted my praise of it. ?

I hope the cd is so hot it burns my flesh when I grab it. ?I have my doubts though, and with every new song that I hear, my doubts are only reinforced.

used illusions [ aapc ]

After reading your post again, I realize I completely misquoted you on the WTTJ comment.  My apologies.

Ummm hmmm....


Alright I just listened to this for the first time 20 minutes ago. And replayed it and replayed it and replayed it.

I'm kinda tripping that maybe I'm crazy (well I know I am) but, this is kicking my ass hard right now. Its the old attacking style that I dig so hard with Axl. Its got this swagger to it, that is so cool.

I think any of you who are brreaking it down and saying some lame negative shit, are fucked. I would almsot be so bold to say that if you dont think this is awesome, then maybe its time to admit that GNR just isnt for you anymore.

...Just took a break and kicked back. Came back and listened to this again, and damn...if this isn't some slick sounding shit. Would dig hearing a sharp version. Chinese D...bring it.

That's correct. I wish these people would move on to other bands/forums.

I agree Buddha, i cannot stop singing this

all day today while i was playing ball i kept singing this

my friends were like "what the fuck are u singing"

I said NEW GNR song that leaked, they thought it sounded awesome with me singing it, im not a vocal slouch but im not axl

this song kicks fuckin ass! bottom line!

I agree totally

this isnt Appetite GNR

this is something brand fuckin new and either u accept its something new or get out of the GNR world.

I dont agree that someone can only make one Greatest album of all time.

I think the original GNR peaked perhaps but Axl hasnt peaked and I am so confident in CD

just sayin if its true that none of these songs we have heard are Big Guns then its gonna be truly unbelievable.

I agree with Dave only this song is maybe a little catchier than YCBM

yeah I agree D, definately a cool, catchy song.
I sing it constantly too ;D can't get it outta my head, and I don't want to either!

An update on my take of the lyrics. (I know I'm obsessed, it's pathetic)

0:00
gonna call the president
gonna call that private eye
gonna get the IRS
gonna need the FBI

0:12
There's not anymore that I can do
all the legions, they tell me, "I follow you"
"when you're cleared of business and the end of time is due"

0:27
It wouldn't be the first time I'd been gone
It wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found
With all the rumors I can tell
some things didn't work so well

I am going to say what most of the press and fans will say when they listen to Chinese Democracy, and Axl didn't consider this:

It is a [cool, ok, good, interesting, etc] album, but it is not a 13 millon dollars and 10 years produced album.  Not that great considering all the money, time, tour cancelations, musicans involved, in relation with the album.


Obviously we only did hear an incomplete song with demo quality, and recorded 2 years ago (I belive that the band in 2 years has re-record some songs or parts of them) but what I wrote 2 lines before, is what most of the people will say, no matters if the album is revolutionary or a mediocre one.

In my personal opinion, I didn't like some rhytm changes al all.. but the chours are COOL.

And it seems that Axl likes the word "gonna"  :hihi: : ok:

As strange as this may sound...if thats the worst of the reviews regarding this album, then its a good thing.

If thats as bad as it will get then the album will be great. Its impossible and probably unprecedented to review an album with these circumstances mentioned. How do you do it? So if the reviews are not bashing the songs and saying they are actually good but focus on the whole time aspect, then for me thats a good thing.

Then it would be up to the person to decide whether they will like it because its actually good or not like it because its 10 yrs.

A review like that would be a check on GnR's list of uphill battles.

I don't even understand why ppl compare this one with YCBM? ???
I prefer this DEMO to YCBM.? To be bloody honest, I like this song more than old GNR catalogue.
I'm not a big fan of the blues or Maddy tho. But maybe when I'm older...

Hey, Neemo, this is a bit of my "lady Mondegreen".
0:00
Your gonna pull evidence
Your gone to the private eye
Your gonna get the IRS
Your gonna need the FBI

0:12
It's nogging the heart that I can do
All the regions.. ???.. I never knew
When you plead the fifth,
And in the end of time it's True.

0:27
Wouldn't be the twist and I'd been gone
Would be the last turn should I've known
All the rumours I can tell,
Some thing didn't work so well

:-[ it doesn't work so well. The clip I hear is very poor quality.  :-\
(still that cant hide the quality of the music from me).

IRS ROCKS  ;D

This song kicks major ass. Clean it up....and it'll be a 10. :yes:

I think its a good song cant really make out the drumming and Finck's solo could be better, obviously the quality of the recording is poor but I think the studio version will make it alot better.

Its a good song but comparing it to YCBM is stupid, the new GN'R sounds nothing like the old line-up, the personnel on the songs are totally different (stating the obvious there) and Axl's voice is completely different.

Besides YCBM is my favourite song ever and it'll take something amazing to come close it. :peace:

10? Strictly it's a 12.5. :P

damn this song is awesome, even with the low quality. now i just can't wait for CD. Axl definitely makes this song amazing. i just hope there's a guitar intro in the final version... it starts too quickly.

the "a band can only make one classic album" comment is so off base.

Look at the Red Hot Chili Peppers "Californication" was every bit as classic as Blood sex sugar magik

Prince's "Sign of the Times" 2 cd set is considered on par with "Purple Rain"

Im sure there have been many bands throughout history that have duplicated their success many times.

Not to mention we're talking about a completely different group of muscians!!!

So "a band can make only one classic album" theory holds no water in this case.

I guess I am the only one still trying to surf the net and actually find the song to listen to. They should just release the official song on itunes so they can get $ for the files and have a good song out rather then making nothing off a bad demo. Afteral we all love GnR I just want to hear something.

"a band can make only one classic album"


Who said this? And, was this said pre or post Beatles? Because if this was said post Beatles, whoever said that is a FuckHead.

I like it. Axl seems to have some of the old swagger and the song has a potentially great groove to it. It is clearly a demo. Question: I have only listened to this on my laptop. Are those acoustic guitars in the organ/solo/slowed down section in the middle? I can' hear it enough to discern. Song should sound really good as a finished product.

I'D giv it between 7-9 out a 10. gr8 tune 4 crap quality sound dusnt seem fayk.

ok the version i have is really really crappy. and is it just me or does the volume rise or the quality get better at around 2:30?

apart from this, the song sounds really really good.

i really love axl's voice. there's vintage axl but theres also some really really cool vocals, higher pitched, clearer. D will hate me for making this reference but i hear a lot of Robert Plant style vocals in some parts of the song. The similarity is striking. Since im a big fan of Robert Plant, i love it. I can't get over how great the vocals sound. The scream over bucketheads solo is orgasmic. :hihi:

I really like both solos. Its like at 2 sides of the spectrum. Fink with his volume swells and ambient style, then Buckethead totally ripping.

I've lost all faith in this album ever seeing the light of day. But as long as we get leaks like this everyonce in a while it'll be cool. It'll keep me happy : ok:

There was music before the Beatles?  ???

edit

After listening to it I think it has some great potential, all that is needed now is to make the vocals louder then the guitars so you can hear his voice the loudest.

Damn, I can't stop listening to IRS...... I love this song....it's high quality songwriting. It definitly should be the first single..... and I am one of the people who always said the old band was the original GNR. Well, if this is what Axl's vision is and this is only a demo....then Chinese Democracy will be the biggest bomb to be dropped since AFD.

I love this song too! It's one of them songs you can never get tired listening too....it's definitely a single material, if it's released as a single!

I heard this is not on top 10 songs Axl has on his best list   :o 

Cant wait for the BIG GUNS Axl has for us!

I love this song. I think it could be in the top ten in any album Guns N' Roses released so far (by my ratings anyway), that makes me even more excited to hear the new album.

The tempo changes is an amazing thing in the song, it's what makes it special. In between the angry ripping blocks of music there are the slow, very emotional parts. Axl singing with a lot of emotion in his voice blows me way; the music (guitars, and drum machine?) behind does justice to that.

The two guitar solos also relate to the song this way; the first one is more emotional and melodic (reminds me of Estranged in the beginning). It's beautiful. Axl sings an "Oh Oh..", fitting the solo with the more emotional parts of the song. The second is introduced by his amazing scream, fitting with the ripping parts of the song.

Like I said, it's amazing. It's like two songs in one, and that makes ONE helluva song! If this one doesn't make the final track list I'm going to be very disapointed and happy at the same time, if you know what I mean.

I absolutly know exactly what you mean:D : ok:

has any1 else picked up on the background vocals on this track? It sounds like its coming from a group of women or maybe kids...

I think they are repeating the chorus{president,pE,irs,fbi...etc}...

listen carefully at the 156 -215 mark...they are definately saying something...hard to hear though...but theres something in the background you have to listen real carefully

now this is someone who gets it! i thought i was the only one who liked the guitars. the way you described them is right on. IRS rocks!!!!

this demo kicks my ass in all areas but the slow solo. It just wanders slowly and goes nowhere. Very weak attempt by Finck. 2nd solo kicks ass. Im a diehard Slash fan, havent heard much Buckethead, but I love his solo in THE Blues and now this song. He can really wail. BTW I saw GNR in 02' in Hartford Conn, Axl's voice live sounded nothing like this. I was dissapointed after seeing him live thinking his best singing was behind him. This song completely erased that. I know the studio(ProTools) could be somewhat responsible for his sound, but I really don't care. Even on this demo, his vocals are so raw sounding, I love it.

Buckethead doesn't play the Blues solo.

Amazing song.  Axl's vocals are better than they've ever been...and that scream going into the solo-was nearly orgasmic.  I've been trying to figure out a way to master this song and clean it up a bit-but I've had no luck so far.

I know it's personal opinion, but I'd say you're in a SMALL minority in calling Madagascar disappointing. That's far more than a halfway decent song. I've heard almost nothing but positive comments from die-hard fans, casual fans, and non-fans alike. IMO it stands up to anything on UYI I.

Now, that's opinion and you're entitled to yours. But the other comment about Axl "throwing out songs" as if he's leaking them is pretty ignorant considering how hard the band's management worked to PREVENT IRS from leaking. I mean, lawyers went right after Trunk, collected the CD, and he removed the song from his repeat broadcast, which is why it didn't leak for so bloody long. It's a low-quality demo - Axl isn't trying to leak shit. The other songs were played live and it’s pretty much a given that they’re not going to be singles.

And I don’t believe that you'd enjoy Jungle in poor quality... think about that comment. There's a big difference between hearing a song you know and love in poor quality, and hearing a song for the FIRST TIME in poor quality. Apples and oranges.


When you hear a demo, you look for potential. "Axl sounds feminine" is an asinine statement since this is a demo and not a finished track - meaning the vocals were/will be recorded again, and likely enhanced etc. with Pro Tools or some shit just like every other CD. Same goes with the solo etc.

I’m not in the group that claims IRS is a 10. But it’s a song with potential. Madagascar, IRS, Chinese Democracy, and The Blues have me excited for CD. Silkworms and Rhiad and the Bedouins I could do without (and since Oh My God was released commercially already I don’t expect it on CD).

i agree. if the vocals get louder, this song could be phenominal. the guitarring is awesome as well, however

Use your equalizer. Pump up the levels around 2 kHz. Then, Move the equalizer sliders for the bands of under 600khz and over 3khz to low levels.

younggunner, you must have a very clean clip. :'(

For me the demo is far and away the best rock song that we have heard from Nu GNR....Oh my god had some great powerful industrial style guitar but terrible production and poor vocal melody, Rhiad for me is just plain crap, CD has some nice guitar and Axls singing is cool but the song as a whole is very average....IRS with some work could be a great song on every aspect.

Just a quick, small post from me ...

I think that the vocal sounds a bit like some old Iron Maiden ... but hey ... the sound is very poor!

Stay rose'ed!

/Adam

Denmark

Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There?s not anymore that I can do
All the legions said to me, I?ll follow you
When you plead the fifth, that?d be the end of time, it?s true

0:27
Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time should have known
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well

0:37

With any way it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear worst yet
When I need another favorite I take
It means you might have been caught anyway
Can?t believe that I was out there at all
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
Well it?s true...ooh...I am,
But don?t forget ooh ooh
Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24
Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna wave it right there out in your face
Reinvent it with your morning anew
With Police, hang over, and their headlines true now
[Finck Solo]




1:55
I've been too sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
If I?m stumbling along the road (wall)
Feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my shit (skin/sin?)
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long



2:17
What can I do?
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private eye,
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna get myself the FBI.

((PS to me it seems here a part of the song has been edited out)

2:33
ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you now it's true
? ? ? ?
[Bucket solo]

3:10
Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it right there out in your face
Reinvent it with your morning anew
And the police, hang over, and their headlines true


3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

I'd say...

....That the lyrics are a mile out. Great job and all, a thousand times better than I could have done...

...But, remember how off the first version of lyrics for Chinese Democracy and Madagascar was?  ;D

(Oh My God was studio, Silkworms easy, and Rhiad just unaudible, so let's not count it)

Not only is it just not wasy to distinguish the words, but D's right. Read through what's been done so far, and there are huge parts that just don't make sense.

All the same, great job. But don't try too hard. You won't be able to get it 100%.

You frightened the shit outta me jarmo I thought its was the start of the end of HTGTH.

I.R.S is a fuckin awesome song Axl sounds so good. the guitar sounded great and the drums sounded very bassy (but that could also be the quality of recording)

Who leaked it? Does anyone know?

I am scared... and frightened... for I am listening to, and posses the new GN'R hit "IRS"! It is horrible quality but It sounds UNBELIEVABLE!! :D I can't hear anything he says....OMG HE IS SCREAMING!!!!!!!!! :nervous:LIKE A MOTHER!!!a solo??? 8)HOOLY SHYT!!!Something FBI! :o... April 27 behind the music...The Guns are RESURECTING very soon! :crying:
- WE BELIEVE! -

Oh man I don't even know where to start.

The parts with ?????? next to the lines are the parts I am not sure about.
Gonna call the president
Gonna call with my private eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

Theres not anymore that I can do
With all the reasons that you gave
I followed you

When you plead the fith
And scream at me half the times to

Wouldn?t be the first time I?ve been wrong
Will it be the last
I?m sure I?m wrong

With all the rumors
I can tell somethings didn?t work so well
Well anyway
It feals the same

When you first told me you were gone
Well I don?t know
But I?m still hanging on

You are a fucking lunatic
And that?s the suite of hands you were dealt
Why do you mouth everything that I think
I thank you god
I think god that you will
And it?s a new dawn backing it on
And it will keep us coming along
 well it?s true
oh I am I?m a dog with you

Gonna call the president
Gonna call him through my private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna waive it right down in your face
Reinvented with your morning news ???????
with a peace hangover ????????
and a head like you now ?????

OH

OH

I?ll see if we can do it all for my heaven
I send it with a gift
And with somebody else

If I don?t wanna ruin the world
Feeling like I drift inside of this song

If I give you sedative
Baby just like I walked through shit

I have been waiting on you all night long
Like a fucking wreck it?s all you know

And I do

OH

Gonna call the president
Gonna call a private eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna get myself the FBI

What can I do if I gave my all to you oh
It?s such a crime you knows it?s true

Gonna call the president
Gonna get myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna waive it right down in your face
Reinvented with your morning news???????   
with a peace hangover ????????
and a head like you ???????????
NOT ANYMORE THAT I CAN DO.

I have got to hear this song.  Someone PM me and give it.  :love:

Everyone, stop begging for someone to send you the song. This is not the right place for that.

Ok, then what is the right place for that? I've looked all over, and haven't seen it.

That's your problem, not mine. Just do it outside this board.

I got it, and Axl sounds awesome.  From what I can hear, Axl is also shredding his voice a lot, which would make a lot of you happy.  But he sounds clear and powerful, cutting through the music.

The studio version will be great for sure.

I'm digging it.

I'll say it again...very great song.  I've been listening to it through my car speakers and it's distorting the hell out of them.  But I have to turn it up full blast with that 10 second scream Axl lets out...!

Well cool for you who have it and won't share. Hard to concentrate  on the song with Axls dick in your mouth? Watcha gonna do? Ban me? That would sure be chinese democracy...oh what ever...blame it on the Falun Gong

edit

just a little pointer, i think he is actualy saying "Gonna call the Private I. "
like a P.I (Private Detective)
that made more sence for me... but i dunno :p

P.I. = Private Investigator.

"Private Eye" is slang, but correct.

Sillything, The absurdity lies here is that we are discussing something shouldn't be known. :hihi:

Each transcription sounds right to me.
 :D the quote in olympichero's post seems re inventive.

lady mondegreens. I sometimes hear it like
3:10
Your gone
You'll never live a private life
Ooh, Gonna need the IRS
go and get the FBI

3:20
Your making it a federal case
Your waving it right out of your face

But I cant hear "if I gave my heart to you..." line :-\

Okay Folks am I the only one who thinks this whole thing is a publicity stunt. Ya know planned by Mr. Rose js to give the fans a tiny little speck to keep em from losing interest. Keep their mouths watering for that album and their brains repeating those two words, Chinese Democracy. Plus its also partial evidence that he js hasnt been sitting in the studio with his thumb up his ass with his headphones on full blast with November Rain playing while he says to himself, "Shit, I gotta make another one of these...........Maybe a whole album full of em?"

Axl has been in the spotlight for a long time so he knows how to get ppls attention  :peace:

No because he would have leaked a g ood quality version.

sorry if this has already been discussed, but has anyone brought up the reasoning behind the title, "I.R.S."?

Axl mentions all these government intelligence agencies, but does he choose to name the entire song I.R.S.?

I wonder if the liner notes will show I.R.S. standing for an acronym for something else (along similar lines as to the Locomotive spelling and "The Perils of Rock & Roll Decadence" subtitle). Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Again, sorry if it's already been discussed.  8)

I was a little weary of getting Chinese Democracy, but if the whole album is like this, it'll be fantastic, I love the song, regardless of the quality.

For GNR fans, no sales or opinions are to be dominated by this little demo, so let us all stop pretending that we are agents of the band playing an "important" role in slowing an inevitability (AFD demos for example) all the while huming along to the song as we type detering words to others. ?

Anyone hanging on coat-tails saying "don't share the song" when they themselves participated in "receiving" the song, thus "sharing", is nothing but a hypocrite. ?"It's ok for me but not for you"....it is like telling your sister that her snickers bar is piece of poop while peanuts and carmel are hangin' from your lips. ?Think about it....that little word, "hypocrisy"....says a lot. ?Their gonna have to change the title of the album to Chinese Hypocrisy in memory of the fans who have misrepresented the band by not practicing what they preach. ?What's the difference between listening to the song against the will of management and... listening to the song against the will of management while lying through your teeth and attempting to control others with the very same lies? ?I'll tell you what the difference is, one person is true to themselves (reminds me of Axl) and the other person is neither true to themselves nor others (reminds me of Ashley Simpson ?:rofl: ). ?

It's simply a demo that management doesn't want people judging the band by, nothing more. ?Read the release.? :smoking:

~M

Whatever.....

This board isn't the tool that should be used to spread material the band doesn't want spread. Easy as that.

Same thing with home addresses of past and present band members, or the picture of an unmasked Buckethead.


I call that respect, you seem to disagree and that's your problem. Not mine.




/jarmo

Seeing he's not in the band anymore and the picture was from 20 years ago...

Who cares?

He seems to care since it's not on his web site.



/jarmo

Again...the whole persona thing is beyond lame and childish....ooooh im a comic character rock star, take me seriously. I will only record from a chicken coup.


Gimme a break , why respect someome who is either .
a.   a pretentious TWAT

or

B..  mentally disturbed

the guy isnt in the band anymore who cares.

I dont even wanna see his face......why would I???....why would anyone????

What has that got to do with the topic? Talk about the IRS leak or shut up.

I apologise oh great one for not sticking 100% to topic and getting distracted by the previuos threads.

I NEVER bump myself like this, but I feel like the topic began straying from the path the last page or so of posts...just didn't want my original post to be mashed in with all that 'privacy' and 'respect' tangeant.

Thanks  :peace:

I think this song can be very awesome if it ever gets properly released........






.......which won't happen because Axl will probably lose his mind after finding out about the leak and burning all his life's work.

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Captain Obvious, please don't give Axl ideas like this!!!   :'(

My Points on IRS:

1- Amazing riffs
2- Amazing solos
3- Amazing voice
4- Amazing lyrics
5- Amazing drums
6- Amazing bass

If it comes to be a single, i would put in the same level of YCBM...and talking about YCBM , i think IRS perfectly fits in a action movie like YCBM did... Imagine a car chasing scene with IRS...

Just my points...

I wouldn't put this in the same level of YCBM. To me, this demo is better than YCBM.
And I don't want it with some car chasing scene.

I personally am very interested in hearing non GNR fans opinion...I feel that that is much more relevant as fans have a vested interest.

Has anyone played it to friends???...and the views expressed by non GNR fans??   what the verdict??

When i listen to this, my hope is slowly fading back. This is good, the new Guns N' Roses is good. Please release the album with Bucketheads part still on and please play in Sweden!

Sad to say I for one am a bit over GNR's style...I am putting  a  band togerher and working on music more interesting to myself....BUT I am a huge fan Of Axls lyrics and voice...and I for one feel that after listening to IRS that the idea of CD pumping VERY loud in my car stereo on a long trip...is a VERY appealing idea.....hey AXL...if you have the songs....release it.

Disco, when Eddie Trunk played it on his show, he said he received thousands of calls requesting it. It got a good reaction. That is as good of an opinion as you are going to get. He also said the fourth track that was on the disc he had was better than IRS. Who knows...

thats cool...but in the end it;s ' he said , she said' stuff

Im a guns fan....and I would love to hear non Guns fans opinions....this board is perfect to share non fans opinions.

I have a 15 yr old sis...mainly into top R n B......stuff ud expect...she thinks it is great...a friend and former GNR fan...a  musician...thinks Axls voice is awesome, and that the melody ' has something special'...but says the music is 'crap'....no hook or style, with the chords being boring and solos derivativ en predictable....but for a demo....cool

P. S

Asked my sis if the thought kids her age would like it....she looked suprised and said .? ? fuck yeh...its pretty cool
Ill start....

i played it to my friend he said it was ok, but really like madagascar so i'l let him off.

Most of my friends didnt liek the new songs we have heard that much.
When I played IRS they were pleasantly surprised. They liked it and 1 even asked me to burn him a copy.

I guess its because IRS is probably the most "radio friendly" song of all the songs we have heard so far. Its got a catchy chorus, great vocals, and cool tempo and vibe...

That was the only thing that really worried me regarding the new material. The stuff we have heard is great imo, but not radio friendly. IRS convinces me that they also got those types of songs as well.


I really wish Axl would just release the album. Especially now. SPring/Summer is the best time to fukin release stuff. The weather and everything...gnr blasting on my radio with the windows down...cmon Axl now is the fukin time...tour when u want to but release the album.....IRS has rejuvenated me in a big way. Now blow me away with the monsters.

Around the 2 minute and 48 second mark, my jaw dropped, eyes widened and I almost had a musical erection. Did anybody  catch that note? If that's his real live voice, there ashould be no more threads about Axl losing his voice.

I just listened to it for the first time.  I think it is pretty good.  Axl sounded good.  I did not like the guitar solo very much though.

I agree with alot of what you have to say.?

I reserved judgment on the track to really give it a few listens and to keep in mind that it is only a demo.? But, with that being said the song still isn't very impressive to me.? Especially when considering all the time that's been devoted to the project.? Millions of dollars and 8 to 10 years of dissecting and revamping this material seems ridiculous.? "Chinese Democracy" should've been released back in '99 when the album title was finally revealed and Axl was calling into MTV and discussing it.? Six years later most casual fans (and alot of die-hards) are expecting a monstrous, ground-breaking juggernaut that will set astronomical standards for all genres of music.? Of course I think we all know that ain't happening.? But even still, we do expect a GREAT album that's totally been worth waiting for.? And although I've remained very positive about it over the years (and still am) I can't say this song helps that philosophical optimism.

PS:? A very special thanx again to the person who sent me the track - you know who you are.? : ok:

can someone send me the track?

mhollod@yahoo.com

I've been listening to it over and over and I'm not getting sick of it.  It's really catchy.  The thing with Buckethead though, is his solos all sound very similiar.  This song is no exception.  He's good and all, but if he really isn't coming back to the band, it won't be that huge of a loss (except for the cool image obviously).

Anybody?

Gonna call the President
Gonna call in the Private I
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There?s not anymore that I can do
All the legions said to me
I?ll follow you
When you plead the fifth, that?d be anytime it?s true

0:27
Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time should I?m gone
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well

0:37

With any way, it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of the debt (wreck)
A fact that you've got to hear worst yet
When I need another favorite I take
It means you might have been caught anyway
Can?t believe that I was out there at all
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
Well it?s true...ooh...I am,
But don?t forget
Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private I
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24
Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna wave it right there out in your face
Repeat it with your morning anew
With Police, hang over, and their headlines true now
[Finck Solo]




1:55
I've been too sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
If I?m stumbling along the wall (road)
Feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my skin (shit/sin?)
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long



2:17
What can I do?
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private I
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna get myself the FBI.

((PS to me it seems here a part of the song has been edited out)

2:33
ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you now it's true (it too)
   
[Bucket solo]

3:10
Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private I
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it right there out in your face
Repeat it with your morning anew
And the police, hang over, and their headlines true


3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

Did you read that before posting it? That just makes hella no sense.

Regarding your PS, me too.

Or at least, it sounds like two different recordings put together.

A freind at my tafe school just found IRS for me a few days ago, i was willing to not listen to it for obvious reasons but i jumped at it and let me tell ya, it's givin' me total new hope and excitment for Chinese Democracy.

 The song just kicks arse man, big time, it's got the (song) Chinese Democracy and It's So Easy feel to me all the way n' i once again i have this fuckin' massive high about the whole thing. I've always had the hype, but hearing this poor quality song is enough for me to be excited about.

The riffs in it are just mean n'  dirty, i have the basic idea of the song and only just prooves again what were in for...

Just fucking imagin when we get this bloody album......i think all basic functions will be cut off to any other band or music that will be out for a long long time :yes: :hihi:

Has anyone found new hope or what have you in hearing this demo??

am I the only one who hasn't heard it?

Negative.

I haven't too. I had the chance but I don't want to.
Imagine Chinese Democracy, having 4 or 5 songs inside that we've already heard.
Like spoilers in the movies.

Something I noticed about the rythm guitar style playing/ it sounds as "dirty" and raw as Appetite. I was listening to "My michelle", then I put I.R.S, and I noticed the rythmic section's style is quite similar: Both raw, aggressive, "dirty" and groovy, melodious. I also noticed guitar parts along vocal parts, when the guitar follow and does the same note as Axl's vocals, it's really cool.

There is an Appetite vibe on IRS. Can't wait to hear the studio version.

nesquick, cool review of IRS. I'll have to take another listen to see if I notice that. Everytime I hear it, I'm concentrating on the insane lyrics.

Well I'm a non-english native language person so I don't really understand the lyrics, i don't pay attention to them, I just listen to the melody and the vocal lines.

Updated




Gonna call the President
Gonna call in the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There?s not anymore that I can do
All the legions said to me
I?ll follow you
When you plead the fifth, that?d be anytime it?s true (the end of time, its true)

0:27
Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time should have gone???
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well

0:37

Well anyway, it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of the wreck (debt)
A fact that you've got to hear worst yet
When I need another favorite I take
It means you might have been caught anyway
Can?t believe that I was out there at all***
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
Well it?s true...ooh...I am,

Forgotten yeah***
Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24
Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna win and I?ll get outta your face
Readmitted with your morning anew***
With Police, hang over, and their headlines true now***
[Finck Solo]




1:55
I've been too sure to offer my help,
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
If I?m stumbling along the wall (road)***
Feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my skin
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long



2:17
What can I do?
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private Eye
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna get myself the FBI.
 
2:33
ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you now it's true (it too)
       
[Bucket solo]

3:10
Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna win and I?ll get outta your face
Readmitted with your morning anew***
With Police, hang over, and their headlines true
3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

I love this track. This track is a bad mother. Hard fucking attitude with some fucking substance. Makes me fucking hurt bad for this shit.

...and speaking of substance...

this song is yum

What i think are the correct lyrics in CAPS?? Tell me if u agree..
0:27
Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time should have KNOWN
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well

0:37

Well anyway, it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of THIS WRECK
A fact that you've got to hear worst yet
When I need another favorite I take
It means youR LIFE WILL BE GONE ANYWAY
Can?t believe that I was out there at all***
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
Well it?s true...ooh...I am,

BUT DONT FORGET OOH OOH
Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS

1:24
Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna win and I?ll get outta your face
REARRANGE IT WHEN YOUR MORNING IS NOON
AND THE POLICE HANG TOGETHER , AND THEIR HEADLINES TRUE NOW
[Finck Solo]

1:55
I've been too sure to offer my help,
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
FEEL LIKE stumbling along the ROAD
Feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my SHIT??
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long

Dave, a couple of suggestions ... and DAMN, I want to hear a studio version of these songs!

I would probably go with this:

"When you plead the fifth, that?d be THE END OF TIME, IT'S TRUE"

I am sure about this one:

"Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN"

I think this is:

"When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
TOOK ALL I HAD gettin out of this wreck
 IN FACT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE WORST YET
WOMAN YOU NEVER SAID THAT I (garbled)
IT MEANS YOU'RE NOT COMING HOME ANYWAY
Can?t believe that I was out there SO LONG
Couldn?t see it coming all along"

Not 100% sure about this one:

1:05
"Well it?s true, oh ... I HAVE FORGOTTEN YOU"

I think this is right:

"Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna win and I?ll get outta your face
REACQUAINTED WITH YOUR MORNING NEWS
A POLICE hangover, and THE headlines true now"

A couple more:

"If I?m stumbling along the wall
Feels like I'LL NEVER GET OUT OF THIS SONG"

"If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime, YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE"

I had a moment with IRS just now. I am pretty sure I have had this a couple times with this song before.

...waasn't looking at anything but this tripped out visualizer that is in sync with the song playing, and I put IRS on...and was just chilling. Shit is cool right now.

but fuck. something crazy. I think this is in my top few favorite GNR tracks. The whole catalog. I love that shit...all of it. But I can't think of another song that is cooler to me right now. IRS is owning my soul. It is kicking my ass hard, and I get all caught up in it. IRS is damn cool. All rock music for the last 15+ years sucks IRS's Dick. For real. I think this even laughs at most of what GNR has ever done too.

Yea I am saying it.

i also love IRS. it's shit banging brain jammin' shit   : ok:  : ok:
i can't fucking wait for the album to come out, i love madagascar, the blues, and irs. i don't even care what else is on the album, as long as there's those three it will rock.
as to whether it's better than the old catalogue is hard to say, for some reason it's totally different shit, it actually sounds modern in some aspects, and it doesn't suck. Au contraire. It's fucking jammin'. i will say i like axl singing over buckethead's solos just as much (if not more) than him singing over slash's. too damn bad all this leaving shit. hopefully robin or whoever can step up
and they can make some fucking beautiful music  :peace:

dont forget we still havnt even heard the intro to the song...

also am i the only 1 who hears background vocals in parts of the song. like a female singer???

te song is damn great! But i want quality sound!

Younggunner,
  Any particular part?  I'm having trouble picking that up...do you mean around 2:00 to 2:18?  Please let me know where you're hearing it.  I think it may be a little echo, or another guitar...
-Axl4prez2004  :beer:

Take a close listen at the 156 - 215 and then 259- 308 during the bucket solo i hear girls signing the chorus of the song very faintly.
 Im almost positive i Hear women background vocals during th ebucket solo and pretty sure during the 156-215 but not sure....but almost positive during th ebucket solo


I can def hear it otherwise im goin nuts. listen very carefully

Younggunner,

  I've tried several times, but I can't make out any other voices.  You're hearing voices, another person's seeing images (on 18th century art no less), others are seeing riddles...this wait is driving us all insane! 

 :beer:

I do think it's one of the "four Appetite rocker type song" of the album.

I hope so becuase the song is the business! : ok:

I think the whole Chinese Democracy will be great but there are times I'm thinking: Axl puts the best in Chinese Democracy and there might be 10 leftovers, (great songs as well)that we'll never find out about.

Let's see, perhaps the 4 rockers are: Chinese Democracy, I.R.S. and This I love (Axl said in an interview that this is the heaviest song he ever written though it's still a ballad or a really power ballad perhaps  :confused:

When i first listned to IRS, i did quite like it. Now i think it's great!. Can't wait to hear the proper clear version  : ok:

you and me both brother.

Three of the rockers are IRS, CD and prositute. The other has not been named yet.

Just think CD would be like an album full of Comas, estrangeds, nov rains, breakdowns, locomotives etc etc.

according to Sp1at? Gimme a break...

Splat didnt say this that guys blog did who talked to Merk. He said there were 4 rockers. So what three rockes have we heard so far? We have heard, CD and IRS, Prostitute was talked about by bucketmaster and he said it was a rocker. So where did spat come from? I didnt mention their name.

Ive defended sp1at on occasion on this board. I think ive changed my opinion of them now though
some of the rumours circulating there nothing short of pathetic

Like I said splat never said this. I got the 4 rockers from that picture guys blog.

"I?m just too sad to kill " What does he mean? He is too sad to kill someone or is he too sad to be killed?

Oh and I want to thank htgt for providing the service of distributing the demo

After hearing it in the car the other day, i now think its "im just too sad to give" not kill.

After a few tweaks
Gonna call the President
Gonna call in the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There?s not anymore that I can do
All the legions said to me
I?ll follow you
When you plead the fifth, in the end the charge is true (thanks dark you rock)

0:27
Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time I should have known
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well

0:37

Well anyway, it feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of the wreck (debt)
A fact that you've got to hear worst yet
When I need another favor I make
It means you might have been gone anyway
Can?t believe that I was out there at all***
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
Well it?s true...ooh...I had forgotten, yeah

Gonna call the President
Gonna call myself a Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24
Gonna make this a federal case
Gonna win if get outta your face
Read a minute with your morning anew***
With Police, hang over, and their headlines true now***
[Finck Solo]




1:55
I've been too sure to offer my help,
Shouldn?t have to hear it from somebody else
If I?m stumbling along the wall (road)***
Feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to give
Maybe like I just walked in my skin
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long



2:17
What can I do?
Ooh, oh.
I'm Gonna call the President,
I'm gonna call a private Eye
Gonna get the IRS,
Gonna get myself the FBI.
 
2:33
ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you
It's such a crime you now it's true (it too)
       
[Bucket solo]

3:10
Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna win and if I get outta your face
Read a minute with your morning anew***
With Police, hang over, and their headlines true
3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

Dave,

I'm almost positive its "When you plead the fifth and in the end the charge is true"

-darknemus

i think its ..."when u plead the fifth that will be the end of time if its true."

...OMG..i just finally got to hear the song for the first time....im gonna admit ive been drifting further and further away from caring weather or not this fuckin monster comes out from under neath its  bed...but after hearing this demo....it kinda stoked the fire back up for me....ive honestly kinda rekindled a sort of hope for this fuckin dream to come true...please dear god i dont ask  4 much, but just make that lil red headed fucker release this damn thing!!!!! :yes: :peace: :beer:

If it is that does not make any sense.

Ohh I like that. Ill fix it now

Dave, it could also be "And in the end the charges true" - which doesn't really make much sense, sentence wise - unless you view it more as a poem and less as a declarative statement.

I'm just pretty damn certain I'm hearing 'charge is (or charges) true.

-darknemus

Perhaps your copy is clearer huh?  ;)

Perhaps  ;)

-darknemus

does anyone think IRS has a similar rhythm to coma

I agree with that lyrical interpretation, it sounds almost spot on, or how about "in the end, the change is true"/"in the end you know its true"? I do view the verses more as poetic stanzas than just song lyrics, while the chorus is an all out outcry.


Not quite Coma-esque, but I definately picked up a "Ramble On" vibe from this song..first Axl borrowing the Stairway bassline for Madagascar, and now IRS..I definately am seeing how this record could be contrasted as Zeppelin-esque like Brain has mentioned before.

Actually I think it does because hes saying if choose not to talk{pleading the 5th} then that will be the end of that relationship or whatver{that will be the end of time} because by u not talking is indirectly confessing

when u plead the 5th, that'll be the end of time, its true or if its true

Yes Madagascar and IRS both have Zep vibes. Theres nothing I need to ehar from this band anymore. No more "proving". If Cd has songs as good or better than the songs we have heard, they have knocked it out of the dam park.
IRS has proved this band can come up with a catchy rocker. Love the tempo changes and Axls vibe. Great song.

I think its


When you plead the fifth, in the end the charge is true

End of time does not make sense in the song or lyric. Why would pleading the fifth mean the end of time? Anytime its true or in the end the charge is true makes sense.

makes plenty of sense

hes saying by you not talking your implying that its true....therefore hes done with u..end of time

Axl does not write like that. I am not even going to argue the lryic since this thread is not about lyrics but the end of time its true is wrong.? It doesnt even make sense as a metaphore. It could be in the end? you'll find its true.
That makes sense and sounds like what? you think it is. Actually now that I listen again, it just me be that.

i still think he says time in there....too hard to tell

"But when you plead the fifth it'll be the end, the charge is true"

makes sense really

 What if it's like this?: "When you plead the fifth, that?d be the end of time it?s true "
If it's like an irony meaning when you choose to shut up it will be the end of time before that happens? It's about someone who can't stop talkin shit? Considering what's come next in the story abour all the rumours gone wrong

you know what? we've been trying to figure out this fucking line for 6 months.

we ain't gonna get it till we see the lyrics booklet.

one thing is for sure.? the line above doesn't make sense

here's what i can make out of it

gonna call the president
gonna call that private eye
gonna get the IRS
gonna need the FBI

There's not anymore that I can do
With all the legions that tell me "I'll follow you"
?So when you see the pictures and the advertisements too?
or
?will you be the victims and the agonizers too?
or
?will you be the buisiness and the advertisers too??
or
?When you plead to bitches and the advertisers too?
or
?Will you be a witness and the prosecuter too?
or
?when you're cleared of business and the end of time is due?
or
?So when you 'blah blu-blah bluh bla-blah" and the "blah bu-bla-bu-blue"?

personally i think the last one is the right one? :hihi:

I really think "when you plead the 5th, that'll be the end of time it's true..or {if its true.}" makes the most sense

i refuse to agree younggunner, to me, what everyone says is 5th is clearly a 2-syllable word.

but, like i said before i don't think we'll get it right 'til the lyrics are published in the CD booklet, or until we get a better version of the song.

Fuck!!! That's some deep shit!! Far out duuude :hihi:

Me too am keep hearing a diphthong of "ai" as in time, life, dime or such there.
I can't catch the word "charge".

at first I thought it was
"But when you plead the fifth And in the end it's like the truth".(meaning = note that silence gives consent)
Then "And to the end of time it's True"
Or     "And that'll be the end of the line, as if it's true" :confused:


 :hihi: getting warmer!!!!

Yeah,
I'm not even sure about that "I follow you" line.
With the noises and such, the words are too hard to catch.
Dave's work is amazing, considering.. :yes:

5th isn't a two syllable word, its actually two separate words. 

'So when you plead the fifth AND in the end the charge is (or charges) true'
 
It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong (as in, I believed you, I'm an idiot)

But it'll be the last I'm sure I'm gone

And all the movers I can tell, some things didn't go so well.

That kind of makes sense.. come to think of it.

-darknemus

I know fifth isn't 2 syllables whatever... i really don't want to argue about it any more it's pointless. Fifth has been there so long i think people just want to believe that's what Axl says

As for the next part, I'd bet money on these lyrics

"It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong"
"It wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found"
"With all the rumors, I can tell, some things didn't work so well"

Here's to hoping a cleaner version shows up somewhere soon so that we can find other things to debate about :)   :beer:

And by soon, I mean the real meaning of the word ;)

-darknemus

do you have more info on that fron darknemus?

he is clearly saying 5th.


thats basically my interpretation

On a better quality version of the song showing up somewhere? Not at the moment.. but the situation is.. fluid.  If it does somehow show up, don't worry, it will show up for everyone.  No hoarding will take place - at least, not by me.

-darknemus

I doubt I'll get it before you, but I won't hoard it either  :beer:

When you plead the fifth, in the end you?ll find it?s true

That makes the most sense and fits.

that's it Dave!!! : ok:, i really think you found the last part of that line,

How 'bout this?

There's not anymore that i can do
all the legions, they tell me, "I'll Follow You"
Then you'll be the victim,
in the end, you'll find it's true

Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong
it wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found
With all the rumors i can tell
somethings didn't work so well

to me that sounds like it's getting closer. I can't be sure i don't have the song on this computer

its .."when you plead the 5th"

as for daves addition. It might work...its either that or mine.

Gonna call the President
Gonna call in the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the F.B.I

There's not anymore that i can do...

All belligerence at the gate, i'll follow you
But when you plead the fifth it'll be the end, the charge is true

Wouldn't be the first time i've been down
Wouldn't be the last, i'm sure im gone

All the rumours!
i can tell some things didn't work so well

Fuck this shit rules.

so i think we have that first part nailed down...

Gonna call the President
Gonna call? the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the F.B.I

There's not anymore that i can do...

All the legions/religions, I'll follow you
But when you plead the fifth it'll be the end, the charge is true

Wouldn't be the first time i've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last, I should have known
All the rumours, I can tell
Some things didn't work so well or So I did it myself
And you wonder why I feel you can take me ---cant really make out what he says before "you can take me"

Gonna call the President
Gonna call in the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

There?s not anymore that I can do
All the legions said to me
I?ll follow you
When you plead the fifth, in the end you?ll find it?s true


Wouldn?t be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last time I should have known
All the rumors I can tell,
Something?s didn't work so well
Well anyway, it feels the same



YG that is what the first part is.

Could be Dave's is the closest.

We don't necessarily need to settle on one version for the ultimate yet, do we?
Till we hear cleaner one or better yet, from the author himself,
Everyone is free to show their own comprehension.

I can't say what but I still hear little differently here and there.?.

the last line of the part doesn't sound to me exactly like either
"Well anyway, it feels the same"
or
"And you wonder why I feel you can take me"


But somewhere in between.

It wont matter when CD drops because he may have changed the lyrics.

Well, Either way I like to see various interpretations for now. :peace:

"All the rumors I can tell,
Something didn't work so well"

tried hard this bit can't be heard otherwise by me either. :P
But who knows.

Just to add I found an IRS clean version on free download on the internet. I won't give the website, but it exists. This is not a GN'R website. This is the version we all have, but with a cleaner sound. 256 kbps. It fucking rocks? 8)

EDIT: I start to receive PM's. Guys, there's nothing revolutionary, it's just a cleaner version, but i repeat it it's the same exact version, 3.41 mn. So Stop PM me.

First you brag about how much it rocks, and then it's suddenly "nothing revolutionary".. gimme a break. That's not the point whether it's something new, of course people want the best possible version. Get it?

Is this version that Bloody Roses remix?

The "Bloody Roses Masters" isn't anything more than the original 128 kbs track upsampled with increased volume. It sounds awful, really.

And the echo at the end made me? :hihi:.

I did my own remaster of the 128 kbs track that's superior to anything else available - not sure if I can post it here, though.

He did not uptempo anything and he didnt increase the volume. All he did was take the track, take out some hissing and put the music in both speakers since the leaked version only played from one speaker.

Not uptempo, upsample - it's when you save something in a higher bitrate.

The original MP3 had a bitrate of 128 kbs and the Bloody Roses Master was 256 kbs for no apparent reason. The only time you should save a file you worked on in a higher bitrate is to preserve quality after messing with the EQ.

The Bloody Roses Master is laughably bad because all the guy did was run it through some filters (that he didn't use properly) and increase the volume.

so u can PM me ur version then please

Yes it's the bloody roses version. Well, it sounds better than the one I have. You might know the version or maybe you have a better one. Everybody seems to have a different version of the song (I mean with a different sound). However there is a little too much echo. That's why I said "nothing revolutionary", it's the same exact version, it's just it's a cleaner one compared to the one I had before. But maybe you have even a cleaner one I don't know.
The version is on free download on the internet however. That what surprises me.

Well it's good to hear Gn'R. We know there actually are songs. I wouldn't mind hearing a demo or studio version of Madagascar... etc...

This is probably the version we'll hear on CD.

PEace and Love to all... I like it. I think it's equivleant to "It's So Easy" or "My Michelle" it isn't no "Paradise City" or "November Rain" or "YCBM" but it's something like "My Michelle" as far as how good it is.

I do like it, and it is a good song.

I give it a 7.5/10 and I'm a strict rater!!!!!

Sorry, doesn't even come close to that classic.

I think all the new stuff I've heard blows the old stuff away by miles...IRS and even the short clip of "Better" blows nearly half of Use Your Illusion II away...and that's cause most of that album was filler besides "Civil War, Yesterdays, YCBM, KOHD, and Estranged.

wow, it's pretty hard to say. ?I mean it's really good, but it's hard to say how good it is..

It's like, to fully know how good it is I'm going to have to hear the album fully because it's hard to take this song and compaire it to the old band. ?It's a new direction and it's competley different.

You can't judge a band on one song.

I know we've heard CD, Maddy, Blues, R&B, SW, and OMG already but none of those were studio...

I'm really liking this song a lot, and it's got my hopes high for C.D., after hearing this I'm positive that I'll love this album, I'm just not sure how much.

My hopes for Gn'R are so much higher than they've been at any point since 2002. ?Wow.

I wouldn't say that... IRS is a strong track... somethign that I could see being a single possibly... I don't know that yet. I've listened to it about 9 times straight through. I like it.

It isn't better then some of the older Gn'R songs, but similair to It's So Easy, My Michelle, So Fine, Coma,

The closest song it could be up with is maybe something like "DOn't Cry" or Live and Let Die.

It's good though. I like it!!! Rock on!! I want to hear the "Catcher in the RYe" song

Its great to actually be able to hear IRS. I didnt listen to the old one very much because it sounded so horrible. I cant wait to share this with friends. I gave the old IRS to this one guy a few months ago, and I told him its kinda rare and hard to find. He called me back about 20 minutes later and said, "Its rare because it sucks". I highly doubt he will have the same opinion now. That old shitty clip should have never been leaked. Thank God none of you guys sent that clip to radio stations. :hihi:

Surprisingly, this seems to be going over pretty well over at "The Velvet Rope"...they have a history of trashing GNR at mention.  But virtualy no negative comments towards this song.  We'll see what they say about "Better"....it's an interesting time in GNR land.

I love it, That second solo rules very majorly : ok:

I love the intro! ;D

How can ya not?!?

This song rocks

I was worried that it would be either two things

1) trying to sound like old GNR

or

2) Techno


Its neither.  Im not going to comapre it to the old GNR cuz its two different bands.....but this song is kick  ass!!!

I agree. I think any and all comparisons to 'old' GNR need to be thrown out the window. Its like trying to compare De Niro to Pacino. Just no fucking point in doing it.

You can compare it. It's the same name, just 4 different people which makes it different, but ti's the same name, and vision... just 11 years from the last active thing from the old band (I'm talking about SFTD in 1995)

ANyways, you can compare them, and I like this band thus far better. I hope they push this album, I'll be there... at midnight, I"ll probably end up buying 2 or 3 copies.

Peace!

i still havent heard it

Oh gawd.........not at all, no way dude.

I must disagree.

Doubtful.

I think it sounds cool, I don't know if it's a classic, but Axl sounds great and it's more modern rock than anything on AFD or UYI.

Anyway, I like it and I really like the Better clip too, wish I had the full song though!

Now, it will never beat UYI I but II...oh yea, exclduing the songs I mentiond earlier.

I don't really like the first 23 seconds, but once it gets goin... fuck I love it.

this will, like i have always thought, be more than up to par with the past gnr material :smoking:
like i always say, quality takes time to build : ok:

Back when we heard the first leak, I was so curious as to what the intro would sound like, and I'm pleasantly surprised. Parts of it sound somewhat exotic, flaminco even? When it kicks in, the guitars just sound huge...

HOLY SHIT GUYS IM LIKE FREAKING THE FUCK OUT HERE

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Definitely trippy stuff : ok:

Is this just the old version cleaned up or is it a new one? It sounds like the old one but a fucking lot better. Its a fuckin awesome song I love it. He sounds like old Axl for most of it but his scream is alot cleaner then it used to be.


 :peace:

Yeah, this is the demo yet. Just listen to the heavy guitar on the right channel. It stops suddenly when the slow part comes. There's a keyboard on the track, but it's though to hear it. The mix is rough yet.

It's same version, but this is the master source and that one was just a record of a record of radio broadcast. I'm 100% sure of this.

This is definitly NOT the final version. There are no vocal overdubs......

I love the song but the only thing I dont' like is the "computerized" drums....but I don't like them in general...

omfg i have goose bumps

the wait was worth it

Yeah this is absolutely fantastic news.

Chinese Democracy starts now? Fucking hope so!

Really great song, expect the solo was quite a letdown from Guns. No slash no solo  :-\

I thought it was the best of the new stuff I've heard.....but comparing it to songs from AFD and UYI is a stretch

i really liked the new I.R.S.

Yes, it's a cool track but Axl's voice is missing something.  It's a little forced and not very scratchy.  Still, I'll take an album full of music like this any day.  Good stuff, and good to hear that they actually have been doing something all this time.

Just a thought, what if Axl is releaseing this material. these songs might not be on the CD but in my head after 10 years you have to no people are dieing. wouldnt you give them a little treat to keep them interested. thats just what i think. Axl the kind of person that could do somthing about this anyway. i dont think its a leak. but thats just me

I hope this a demo version. ?If it's not I don't understand why Axl needed so much time to make this. ?It's not a bad song, but I'm not blown away by it. ?It's just an average rock-song and I hope the rest of the album will be a lot better.

This may be the final version, I wouldn't doubt it. Who else thinks so.

The song is solid.

I love it.

Wow, I freakin' love this song. What the hell is Axl doing sittiing on it? Release the fucker! Great, Great song. Axl is Back!

I'm not to thrilled about the song..I don't know what it,but it just doesn't do anything for me.
It might grow after a while though..
I really liked Better though!Can't wait to hear the whole song! :beer:
It sounds promising!

I missed all the chaos.

Is Buckethead on this IRS...?

yes

I'm working on it man, sending it to you and 2 others now. I'm going to post 1 last link to it. I downloaded it....

Gn'R rules!!!!

I'd talk about I.R.S and Better but to my knowledge they dont exist. Figments of our imagination. I have no memory of them and allthough I thought I had them on my PC they dont seem to be there anymore. Scary.  :nervous:




Who came up with that silly idea last nite to send IRS to radio stations anyways?  Ohhhhhh , wait....  :confused:

 :peace: :peace: :peace:

What is it called...co illusion? ;D

@ thorned No. Seemingly The GNR camp doesn't think so. Myeteron confirmed this before


Yay 21st century boy! :peace:

well, I just heard both the new leaks. awesome.

better is... better.

can't wait for the album.

Dunno, whats with the drum machine? The drums sound really weak.

Its missing something. No more fancy layers or effects, its missing a raw guitar component.
And where the fucks the bass?

Are you listening to it on a good stereo system?

Yeah man, the dogs bollocks

Where these the two songs with vocals that Slash talked about?

Hahaha , you never know man!! Never fucking know!

great song!!!   but i think the final version will blow this away though....  there?s still something missin      it`s the mix i guess

but helll.........   CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!!

more like

Chinese Democracy idles for a bit then sputters again to a restart !!!

Wow, you mean on this forum we can actually discuss the song/lyrics? We don't have to pretend that this demo does not exist? I think it kicks ass, but as a single? I would have to say no. It would be a strong album track though.

I think IRS misses rawness...it's too clean and too slow. I expected it was faster and rougher

iff this is an equivalent to dust n`bones we`ll get the best record ever :hihi:

keep in mind that this isn`t in the "top ten".... : ok:

yeah, should be faster and more "dirty".

I think the song is fine.

I'd like it to be a bit faster.. and a bit more edgy sounding... but I still like it.

good buts needs to be faster!!!!

 :rofl:

i just put it on my mp3 player and listenened to it on headphones..

it blows everything i ever heard away!! : ok:    that way it really sound how it`s supposed to be. TRY IT!!

Yeah, a little faster, more raw and dirty and it would be a bad mutha.

Actually the raw, original clip got me more excited than this clean one. Although it is a demo. Hopefully. They claimed Oh My God was a demo.

It's like a classic song, but modern at the same time. Fucking amazing day  ;)

The intro is sooooooo good....I love how layered this whole song is. 

I love it... GNR is coming babies!

I hope no one said this before. But after listening to IRS again just now (fuck I have heard this a lot since last night), the intro...it sounds or has traces of, the Garden. Maybe its just me...but that trippy ass sound to it seems familiar. I love it...all of it. Just an observation.

yeah it`s similar to the garden in the beginning....  but not too much actually :hihi:

to me the best part of that song is the solo near the end.. The song itself is OK..

Does Axl just mail you guys music from time to time? Where are these leaks at, me and my other GN'R pals can't seem to find actual pieces of music, just people talking about it.

both these songs need to be listened to with good headphones. seriously ... theres lil details you wont hear over pc speakers and whatnot.

sweeeet

Love the song.

Not fond of the mix (which I'm sure isn't final), but the song just rocks.

If there are 10 better songs than this on CD...oh my shit.

A big thing thats gonna hinder Chinese Democracy is people's love for the old shit.

I dont care if Axl has the greatest song ever written, there will be people who refuse to say its better than WTTJ, or PC etc etc etc.

I dont think u can compare songs.

Personally Im so burnt out on Old GNR that I m gonna love anything new better, but as far as an all time ranking, i think thats probably impossible to do that.

If you know my posts you know I'm very critical of new GN'R. But I got to admit, I.R.S was really good. If the album has all songs up to that level, with finished studio work, I'm gonna love it. I hope Axl doesn't let us down again.

I'm happy with it.. Worth all this time waiting? No.

I disagree.  Its been over 15 years since a GNR album has come out....anyone still clinging to the idea that CD is goin to be AFD part 2 is a douche.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody compared VR to STP or GNR right? 

The critics will make or break this album if you ask me.

The whole way the song just drifts between bluesy solos and Axl spitting out the verses grabs me wholeheartedly.

IRS Sounds pretty sick but I doubt if we see it on Chinese Democracy that will be the version that appears and as cool as IRS is from what I heard better is going to be a better song

Just Rocks! love this song  ?amazing  :D

Its just the demo ....

I totally agree. That solo makes the song. Without it, Irs becomes very average/mediocre, or at least average in comparison to the other good new songs.

I just heard IRS (thanks to my Bud) I have to say, without being mixed or mastered it sounded amazing. His voice sounds good, though it sounds excellent on Better.

I was a little nervous when I read the lyrics, but he sings it very well. Great chorus. I know its a rough cut but it reminds me a lot of Rush.

The mix isn't the greatest, but given that, IRS is strong and Better is simply breathtaking.

Where can you hear it?

I'm not impressed. Both of the new clips ain't too cool. These are clearly demos, so the final thing may be better, but esp. I.R.S. is not a good song...just imagine you heard a demo of Sweet Child...see the difference?

Thanx to Evo btw !  8)

What is the difference between the new version and the old version besides the sound quality?  I haven't heard the new version. 

Is it longer?  Different solos?  What's different from the last one we heard?

help!!!!! me!!!!

This song is all right but nothing special. The lyrics are subpar, the song construction is kind of jumpy and I'm not that impressed with the buckethead solo. I've been a fan since I was 17 in 1987 and to say this is better than anything on AFD is wrong. It's about as good as the weaker stuff on UYI I and II. Good but it took 15 years for this? The blues is much better. I like the 1:20 of "Better" that I managed to download. This is a much "better" tune than IRS from what i've heard of it. Just my opinion.

The old Slashguard weighing in..... ::)

IRS is cool. i dig it.


"Better" is breath-taking. "Better" is perfection for 75 seconds!

Didn't hear them either, wish I could hear IRS.  The first leak was amazing.

Probably won't listen to Better. I haven't heard it and rather hear it from the album.

This is exactly the way I wished the new GNR would be. Its like a great mix of diferent music styles and it sounds totally like nothing we have heard before.

My favorite part was when Axl makes that high long pitch while the solo goes on, I can already visualize the whole thing in a live gig, its going to be amazing.

I cant stop listening to these two songs. They are SO AMAZING! I can't wait to hear the final version on the album, I bet its gonna sound very diferet with a lot of new fill riffs and maybe diferent lyrics (the lyrics where in my opinion the weakest part but the sound of the voice is great).

One should note, nothing wrong with the Slashguard.? I know many, and they know music.? I think IRS is about Slash!? Ironically, Slash may lay a lick or two down on this one by the time we get the album version.? ?;)  LMFAO, you guy's, confidant's insist we are in for a great ride--soon!!  Slash and Axl--well?

Is it just me, but does the very beginning 0:03 to 0:07 remind you of The Garden off of UYI I? 

Wow, just awesome stuff.  What a great day/night.    :beer:  :beer:  :beer:   :beer: 

I actually like IRS over Better at the moment!

Had IRS on my minidisc player when I was at the gym earlier, it really got me going - man I was an animal!!

Thinking about the tempo of the song:

When you listen to the demo's from appetite all of them are slower than the final cut. Jungle sounds weird slow.

I love the tempo of the song too. This is exactly my kinda rock song. The tempo of The Blues was also slower in 02 than the Vegas and Rio gigs and I much preferred the Vegas/Rio version.

I.R.S is decent... for some reason it just leaves something to be desired... I wish it were a bit more faster.

I must say I didn't care for the song.  I'd like to hear a better version before making any final judgments, but my initial reaction to the demo was *thumbs down*.

What do you think the meaning of the song is...

I think he is talking about calling all those people/organizations before he decides to ever love a woman again...

IRS is awesome....but "better" is better.  :)

maybe you have to have special ear phones to hear it perfectly but it does have lots of way to pitchy vocals that kind of blend in way to much, his vocals are powerfull at times but more in the annoying way... (A) on the guitar solo the only bright spot..