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Title: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: D on February 22, 2006, 08:26:40 PM remember all the critics on the 2002 tour about how Axl doesnt sound like Axl blah blah blah.
One thing I love about the leaks is the fact that what a few of us speculated on seems to be true. we said that Axl has learned to sing a proper style to not fuck his throat up on the road but in the studio it will sound like vintage Axl. I think the leaks prove that Axl's voice has never been better. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: DunkinDave on February 22, 2006, 08:27:42 PM remember all the critics on the 2002 tour about how Axl doesnt sound like Axl blah blah blah. One thing I love about the leaks is the fact that what a few of us speculated on seems to be true. we said that Axl has learned to sing a proper style to not fuck his throat up on the road but in the studio it will sound like vintage Axl. I think the leaks prove that Axl's voice has never been better. You don't know how old any of the demos are - don't make assumptions. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: killingvector on February 22, 2006, 08:35:19 PM remember all the critics on the 2002 tour about how Axl doesnt sound like Axl blah blah blah. One thing I love about the leaks is the fact that what a few of us speculated on seems to be true. we said that Axl has learned to sing a proper style to not fuck his throat up on the road but in the studio it will sound like vintage Axl. I think the leaks prove that Axl's voice has never been better. i wish the mix was a bit better. Alot of the criticism with the demos has been that Axl's voice is not louder on the tracks; hence more of the Axl's voice has lost its power criticism. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: warrocks on February 22, 2006, 08:39:38 PM in the leak I.R.S I think it's a little bit annoying axl's voice, maybe because of the repetitive lyrics, sound? I don't know what it is but personally I don't dig it at all :-\ :P
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Axlism on February 22, 2006, 08:39:58 PM See/ hear Albany 2002, tell me his voice was not fantastic.
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: DunkinDave on February 22, 2006, 08:42:02 PM See/ hear Albany 2002, tell me his voice was not fantastic. That's an audience recording - give me a soundboard recording and then I can make a fair assessment. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: D on February 22, 2006, 08:47:26 PM in the leak I.R.S I think it's a little bit annoying axl's voice, maybe because of the repetitive lyrics, sound? I don't know what it is but personally I don't dig it at all :-\ :P yeah but u are the one who said Motley Crue was better than GNR so obviously u are an Axl hater anyway the tone, grit and snarl is still there. point is on tour he had to sing a way as to not rip his vocal cords apart, but in the studio u can sing like u want to cause its not as taxing on your throat. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Axlism on February 22, 2006, 08:58:16 PM See/ hear Albany 2002, tell me his voice was not fantastic. That's an audience recording - give me a soundboard recording and then I can make a fair assessment. It's a great recording though, and clear. If I was saying it sucked then maybe the soundboard version would improve it, that it's an audience recording only adds to my point, I feel. You can hear he sings great, power, clear wails, nailing the highs...in key, he's still got it. The demo's as well show it, be they from 02,04,06, whatever. Axl's tubes are intact. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: warrocks on February 22, 2006, 09:08:20 PM in the leak I.R.S I think it's a little bit annoying axl's voice, maybe because of the repetitive lyrics, sound? I don't know what it is but personally I don't dig it at all? :-\ :P yeah but u are the one who said Motley Crue was better than GNR so obviously u are an Axl hater anyway the tone, grit and snarl is still there. point is on tour he had to sing a way as to not rip his vocal cords apart, but in the studio u can sing like u want to cause its not as taxing on your throat. I think you should go back to read my MC post..never said such a thing! are you nut? haha and i'm not an axl hater..are you saying that just because i don't like one song? please give me a break! Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: D on February 22, 2006, 09:11:54 PM LOL
Sorry I misread somehow accept my apology please. :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: warrocks on February 22, 2006, 09:16:05 PM i was about to kick you in the nuts!? ::)? :hihi: :hihi: :beer:
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: D on February 22, 2006, 09:17:37 PM thats not nice!!!!!!!!!! :'(
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: DunkinDave on February 22, 2006, 09:17:55 PM It's a great recording though, and clear. If I was saying it sucked then maybe the soundboard version would improve it, that it's an audience recording only adds to my point, I feel. You can hear he sings great, power, clear wails, nailing the highs...in key, he's still got it. The demo's as well show it, be they from 02,04,06, whatever. Axl's tubes are intact. The demos might be from 1998 for all we know. And the 2002 concerts were 4 years ago - his voice might have changed since then. I guess we'll soon see. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Christian on February 22, 2006, 09:41:13 PM It's a great recording though, and clear. If I was saying it sucked then maybe the soundboard version would improve it, that it's an audience recording only adds to my point, I feel. You can hear he sings great, power, clear wails, nailing the highs...in key, he's still got it. The demo's as well show it, be they from 02,04,06, whatever. Axl's tubes are intact. The demos might be from 1998 for all we know. And the 2002 concerts were 4 years ago - his voice might have changed since then. I guess we'll soon see. That's impossible demos from 1998. Buckethead was confirmed in the band one month before Vegas (November/December 2000) and IRS and TWAT has Buckethed parts. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: erose on February 22, 2006, 09:41:43 PM yeah his voice is fucking awsome!!
like that scream before the solo in irs, noone else and i mean noone else in the world can do that! Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: jmapelian on February 22, 2006, 09:45:35 PM no he hasn't hushed them; non die-hards thinks his voice is annoying as hell, or, the general public
personally, I think he should he should sing in a lower voice Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: SLCPUNK on February 22, 2006, 09:47:57 PM Who cares about critics.
I saw Axl live twice during 2002 and he sounded killer both times. I'm sure he sounds great now. The guy could sell millions more albums and sing to sold out stadiums and people would still say his voice sucks. Who cares............... Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: erose on February 22, 2006, 09:48:06 PM personally, I think he should he should sing in a lower voice well he does that to, i mean, it's cool that he has like four or five octaves ranges or whatever and he uses the all! noone does that. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Cornell on February 22, 2006, 09:50:33 PM I absolutely love his voice. His range is unbelievable to me. BUT - I do hear non GNR fans laugh at it. I guess I just don't get it. :-\
I like the way he says "pretty" in twat. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: jmapelian on February 22, 2006, 09:54:09 PM well, everything I've heard since the original members left is his glass shattering voice
Some of the best ie The Blues, maddy, TWAT, Bette, IRS.....all super high octaves Granted, he's got the best vocal range in rock music.....I'd just like to see more range, as would others And I wasn't talking about critics, just normal every day people that listen to the same music i do just not diehard fans Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Mutherfunker on February 22, 2006, 10:00:31 PM i was about to kick in the nuts!? ::)? :hihi: :hihi: :beer: It's funny how you ladies always gotta talk about kicking a guy in the nuts, I mean... you do realise that all you have to do is just graze nuts, and the guy will be fucked up. And that's the worst pain because you're like "hey, did that just... graze... my... aaarghhhh" :crying: :hihi: As for the voice topic, well that can be affected by a kick in the nuts too! No seriously, I never understood what people have been grumbling about - same man, same voice, should be more powerful and effective than ever. @#$%Funker Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Scree on February 22, 2006, 10:15:40 PM Amusing as testicle torture is... back to the topic.
Most people areound the world in 2002 only heard the MTV awards performance. To be truthful, looking at it from a non hardcore GnR listener, that performance was pretty woeful compared to the live shows we all heard via the boards. The live shows kicked ass, but many outside our little communities heard them. I believe those who think Axls voice has blown will fall inlove with it (and the music) once the album is everywhere and all over tv and radio. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: G n F n R on February 22, 2006, 11:49:27 PM I like the leaks but I still say his voice has changed. I mean the man himself admitted to it at the Korn party. "I'm trying to do something different. Some of the arrangements are kind of like Queen. Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" He then smiles and adds, "But you'll like at least a few songs on there."
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Axlfreek on February 22, 2006, 11:50:23 PM his voice sounded exausted at vma's i thought. though the scream he let out in the intro to WTTJ was fucking amazing. either way i think his voice sounds fine.
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: The Dog on February 23, 2006, 12:01:10 AM his voice sounded exausted at vma's i thought. though the scream he let out in the intro to WTTJ was fucking amazing. either way i think his voice sounds fine. Thats probably my favorite Axl scream....its just completely ridiculous how long he holds that for and how powerful it is. My favorite thing about Axls voice/lyrics that is TOTALLY lacking in todays music is the emotion and passion behind every syllable. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Elrothiel on February 23, 2006, 12:19:08 AM HannaHat are you the male version of me or something!? ??? :hihi:
Reason: I 100% agree! No vocalists nowadays really put raw passion behind their voice without doing the black metal deep growl thing, which sucks cuz you can't hear what they're singin' about, or the whole emo whiny nasal thing! Axl is the only one who really does put everything he's got into his voice and throwing every bit of emotion he's got into it, without sounding black metal, and without sounding emo! Axl = God Of Rock! :peace: : ok: Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Bono on February 23, 2006, 12:24:02 AM I don't agree he's hushed his critics. To me alot of the vocals on the new leaked songs sound like alot of protools went inot it. I love the sound of his voice on Better but I'll be honest and say I think he sounds quite bad on the slow parts durring IRS and TWAT. I really like the song The Blues but I'm not sold on his voice. the melody is great but his voice sounds much too nazal and really manufactured in my opinion. If he can pull off his "Better" voice live and that's the voice that dominates the album than he will have hushed me. Untill then I'l take the wait and see approach.
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: elevendayempire on February 24, 2006, 07:30:19 AM I don't get this... have the critics not heard the Osaka 2002 monitor recordings? 'Cause his voice sounds fine in them...
SG Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: makane on February 24, 2006, 07:32:10 AM Singers vocal abilites isn't measured by hes/her studio takes, it's how he can deliver the songs LIVE.
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: noonespecial on February 24, 2006, 08:38:58 AM Thank You For Saying This....studio, smudio....LIVE is where it counts!!! You can polish turds in studios and make em smell and sound just like flowers :hihi:
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: crofty on February 24, 2006, 09:30:24 AM Amusing as testicle torture is... back to the topic. Most people areound the world in 2002 only heard the MTV awards performance. To be truthful, looking at it from a non hardcore GnR listener, that performance was pretty woeful compared to the live shows we all heard via the boards. The live shows kicked ass, but many outside our little communities heard them. I believe those who think Axls voice has blown will fall inlove with it (and the music) once the album is everywhere and all over tv and radio. even from a hardcore POV, the VMAs were just bad. Fact. ok the scream was ace and Maddy was pretty good. Wether the soundman's/ axl's fault whatever, if that's all people have heared, then I'm not surprised no one likes his voice now. The CD should kick ass, and he CAN deliver live (in 2002 he did anyway) Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: jmapelian on February 24, 2006, 09:54:31 AM Personally I don't think he will totally silence his critics until CD is released and he is able to succesfully complete a tour with no incidences
Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Lord Kayoss on February 24, 2006, 10:40:23 AM Personally I don't think he will totally silence his critics until he is able to succesfully complete a tour with no incidences Has this ever happened? Once? :hihi: Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Dont Try Me on February 24, 2006, 10:45:41 AM Personally I don't think he will totally silence his critics until he is able to succesfully complete a tour with no incidences Has this ever happened?? Once? :hihi: nope, I always liked the way Axl handled the things.... Who haves the balls these days to not show up to a concert? there can be only one :hihi: It adds to the excitement... "oh my god....he doesnt show up!!!........where is he??? why is he taking so long!!??...the show should've started like 33 minutes ago!........" and then: "Do you know where you AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEE!!" crowd will go nuts!!! Excitement is everything.... It's part of his image........like it or not.... You'll either see the greatest rock show.....or you'll see........flying chairs.. .. Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: marknroses on February 24, 2006, 10:59:36 AM remember all the critics on the 2002 tour about how Axl doesnt sound like Axl blah blah blah. One thing I love about the leaks is the fact that what a few of us speculated on seems to be true. we said that Axl has learned to sing a proper style to not fuck his throat up on the road but in the studio it will sound like vintage Axl. I think the leaks prove that Axl's voice has never been better. I personally haven't heard any of the new tracks like IRS, Better and TWAT. I would love some direction in knowing where to find them (I wish I could find them here), because I would like to hear something better than I have already heard from GNR's last round of "new" releases. Believe me that I am just as excited as the biggest die hard Axl fans to see him making appearances and being confident in his material and his work. He has definitly come a long way from his reclusity of 1994-2000 (2002-2006). But I am also playing it cautious. Axl did not impress me the last time he came around in 2002, and my mind has already been made up that his performances and his songs were inferior to that of the old GNR period. This is why Im dying to be proven wrong, I would like to see that Axl's talents have increased since Slash, since he did have a lot of ground to cover from losing his old band mates. I would rather not see Axl come back and have the good old GNR memories to look back on instead of it being whitewashed by embarassing tours and performances with a nu-band that might not have the chops of Slash & Co. Nothing could hurt more because I really care for Axl and wish he is doing the right thing not just for himself, but for his fans, because his fans are a big part of his success. To see him come back and not be successful/be an embarassment would further divide his fan base and over-do the successes of the old GNR which has stood the test of time. The most I can expect is for nu-GNR at the moment is sales of a few platinum (3-5) plus 3-4 songs comparable in their success as November Rain, WTTJ and SCOM and PC. Anything less than that would be a slap in the face of fans like me who have been waiting for years and have beared Axl's hestitations and sporadic appearances and hype. In the meantime, , I am more excited to see the GNR coverband "AFD" in NYC's BB Kings on March 10th than the nu-GNR, until I know where I can find some of the musical hype of the nu band. NOthing says GNR to me more than the pissed off, cip on shoulder Axl and Slash and Izzy and Duff and Steven from 1986-1990. 8) MNR Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: PJ on February 24, 2006, 11:43:46 AM I like the leaks but I still say his voice has changed. I mean the man himself admitted to it at the Korn party. "I'm trying to do something different. Some of the arrangements are kind of like Queen. Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" He then smiles and adds, "But you'll like at least a few songs on there." when he said this.. i think he wasnt refering his voice... he was refering his style...Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: jmapelian on February 24, 2006, 01:53:22 PM Personally I don't think he will totally silence his critics until he is able to succesfully complete a tour with no incidences Has this ever happened?? Once? :hihi: nope, I always liked the way Axl handled the things.... Who haves the balls these days to not show up to a concert? there can be only one? :hihi: It adds to the excitement... "oh my god....he doesnt show up!!!........where is he??? why is he taking so long!!??...the show should've started like 33 minutes ago!........" and then: "Do you know where you AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEE!!" crowd will go nuts!!! Excitement is everything.... It's part of his image........like it or not.... You'll either see the greatest rock show.....or you'll see........flying chairs.. .. Yeah, it's real fucking great until the no-show happens at the show you're at :rant: Title: Re: Axl has hushed his vocal critics Post by: Dont Try Me on February 24, 2006, 01:55:16 PM Personally I don't think he will totally silence his critics until he is able to succesfully complete a tour with no incidences Has this ever happened?? Once? :hihi: nope, I always liked the way Axl handled the things.... Who haves the balls these days to not show up to a concert? there can be only one? :hihi: It adds to the excitement... "oh my god....he doesnt show up!!!........where is he??? why is he taking so long!!??...the show should've started like 33 minutes ago!........" and then: "Do you know where you AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEE!!" crowd will go nuts!!! Excitement is everything.... It's part of his image........like it or not.... You'll either see the greatest rock show.....or you'll see........flying chairs.. .. Yeah, it's real fucking great until the no-show happens at the show you're at :rant: I feel ya.... :'( |