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Title: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: mikegiuliana on February 22, 2006, 06:27:55 AM
you know something like supernatural, or more recent kind of like santana with steven tyler , I know that isn't youth but it's different.. I love that song by the way.. I know slash could pull it off because his work can be diverse and he sems to cross music genres... Once you do that mega massive band like gnr you don't have to stay within one area again.. You can branch out so to speak.... I think it would be cool having him doing all guitar work behind a slew of different types of singers.. Your thought as a one time thing?


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: avesia on February 22, 2006, 06:33:46 AM
a one time thing it's ok...I guess...Slash has worked with different people before...so this is not completely new for him...
But he'd better go back to VR after that...or gnr? ;D


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Mikkamakka on February 22, 2006, 08:15:15 AM
When Snakepit2 broke up, I thought Slash should have done a Santana-type album. And I still think it's a good idea.  : ok:


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on February 22, 2006, 08:19:27 AM
mmm, I would like another Slash solo album, but maybe not Snakepit, only Slash's. The guy is extremely talented, and he is not showing us what he's got in VR, even though I love that band.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: coolman78SLASH on February 22, 2006, 08:20:38 AM
I think he was planning to do some kind of album like that a while before VR started to happen, am I wrong?


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: SourBaby on February 22, 2006, 10:08:17 AM
 >:( No he shouldn't work with poptarts.... He should just stay where he is!


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: tomass74 on February 22, 2006, 04:35:52 PM
I think he was planning to do some kind of album like that a while before VR started to happen, am I wrong?

Yeah he had been planning that before VR.... I think it would be awesome. Not a pop album liek Santana but just all different people.. I am sure he would pick some weirdos though.. It would be cool if the whole thing was rockin though. Hmmmmm, how about..

Steven Tyler
Ozzy
Izzy
Ian Astbury
Mick Jagger
Robert Plant
Kid Rock
DMX


My Brain isn't working well right now, but that would be an interesting start.



Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: metallex78 on February 22, 2006, 05:56:16 PM
I think he was planning to do some kind of album like that a while before VR started to happen, am I wrong?

Yep, I remember reading that too, he was going to make a really diverse album too, with lots of different styles and influences. Shame we never got to hear that.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Grouse on February 22, 2006, 06:15:34 PM
I think he was planning to do some kind of album like that a while before VR started to happen, am I wrong?

yep you're right too bad it never happend, I think slash should just release a best of disk 'cause he has already worked with so many artists; Lenny kravitz, MJ, Iggy pop, Spinal tap, even some work with bob dylan, the list just goes on and on forever.


by the way can anyone remember the name of that girl he did a song with like 2/3 years back, wasn't it elan or something? ??? I really need to get my hands on that track 'cause I remember that it sounded awesome :beer:


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: metallex78 on February 22, 2006, 06:59:21 PM
by the way can anyone remember the name of that girl he did a song with like 2/3 years back, wasn't it elan or something? ??? I really need to get my hands on that track 'cause I remember that it sounded awesome :beer:

Yeah, the singer is Elan and the song is called Street Child, and I think the album was called the same. Slash plays a few solos in the song and it's some of his best guitar work since GN'R, you can almost hear his guitar crying in his solo. :drool:


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: blackpainter on February 23, 2006, 05:55:08 AM
by the way can anyone remember the name of that girl he did a song with like 2/3 years back, wasn't it elan or something? ??? I really need to get my hands on that track 'cause I remember that it sounded awesome :beer:

Yeah, the singer is Elan and the song is called Street Child, and I think the album was called the same. Slash plays a few solos in the song and it's some of his best guitar work since GN'R, you can almost hear his guitar crying in his solo. :drool:

Agree!!
And I love santana.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on February 24, 2006, 10:22:22 AM
He would put Santana in the ground.  Santana has nothign on SLASH. But then again I dont want to see Slashed whored out with Rob Thomas of Matchbox 20.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: GNR - CROATIA on February 24, 2006, 10:44:41 AM
I can't see Slash doing something like Santana + I can't say that Santana did one decent song on thoose albums (IMO).
Like metioned before,  I think that everyone should stick to where they currantly are.
Although,   I would love to see an album with Slash,  Matt,  Duff,  Gilby,  Jimmy Page,  Robert Plant and Robinson brothers.
Or at least VR 3 with Page and Plant.
Sorta like Leded Roses.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: electricmage on February 24, 2006, 11:37:51 AM
Santana can't sell records w/o popstars. His last album did poorly which makes me laugh. He defends his pop crap in a guitar player magazine, only becuase people have been ripping on him for making a second album like the first. He's a bitch and he knows it. Michelle Branch? Can these people be any more lame? Rob Thomas? These people are boring and Santana probably knows it.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: DOASHK on February 24, 2006, 12:45:12 PM
rob thomas is where it's at


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Grouse on February 24, 2006, 03:59:09 PM
rob thomas is where it's at

That's sarcasme right? :nervous:


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: mikegiuliana on February 24, 2006, 06:04:55 PM
I just said this because I loved how Slash ripped it up for michael jackson, he had such feel. I remember they had to like force him offstage during the mtv awards in like 94- or 95.. Also recently with slash n the hendrix band doing hey joe, I just never wanted it to end..  I also have been digging the santana tyler duet


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 24, 2006, 09:20:33 PM
Mike, afte hearing the new GNR, it really makes me appreciate Slash even more.  I know everyone comments on Axl vs. Scott and how it is so different.  Same could be said about Slash vs. anyone that is in GNR.  They are not even in the same league.  Just goes to show you that it doesn't matter how many notes you can play per second, there is a reason why Slash is a guitar hero/God and those others are not.  He just has the ability to completey suck you into his playing.  It is so beautiful and perfect for each song.  And you don't ever forget his playing, where as I can't even remember what the hell bucket and fink are playing. 


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: GNR - CROATIA on February 25, 2006, 04:24:49 AM
Mike, afte hearing the new GNR, it really makes me appreciate Slash even more.? I know everyone comments on Axl vs. Scott and how it is so different.? Same could be said about Slash vs. anyone that is in GNR.? They are not even in the same league.? Just goes to show you that it doesn't matter how many notes you can play per second, there is a reason why Slash is a guitar hero/God and those others are not.? He just has the ability to completey suck you into his playing.? It is so beautiful and perfect for each song.? And you don't ever forget his playing, where as I can't even remember what the hell bucket and fink are playing.?


It is not only Slash vs New (nu) GNR...
It is also Duff,  Matt,  Gilby,  Izzy...   Everyone in former line up beats anyone in current


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: mikegiuliana on February 25, 2006, 04:31:35 AM
Well SG axl rose has always believed he is gnr and no one else is, he believes that as long as he is in the band anyone in the world he picks can be gnr too (well as long as he lets them).. Well the real gnr fans know better,,, I mean fuck at the height of gnr's fame back in the day there were millions of fans... Look at how many follow now and their ages, much closer to missing the original... I don't fault young kids for liking this band or not missing the old one because they were alive during this band.. It's kind of like the younger kids liking vh with sammy over the older liking dlr.. I definetly think slash is missed. the intros on these songs are very boring gnr wise.. maybe this is why I love afd best, didn't need any gimmicks just hard ass guitar rock in your face.. ?

Anyways if you are an actual gnr fan like myself that took and interest to this newer version because you have always loved axl rose and care about the name then you are like myself. ?To me gnr without slash is like queen without may or zepplin without page... You just don't replace these guys and expect the same...

I think gnr forums today are more focused aroun daxl being gnr alone and that no one counted the same as him.. This is why the arguments never end and why no one is allowed to say anything negative about the new songs./ How can you use the gnr name and get mad when actual gnr fans ?from back in the day say the band could use slash's playing..?? Anyone that is from like around 30 on knows gnr as the old guys and especially slash on lead.. When people pas these links what do they expect, new gnr is not known anywhere, people base everything on old.. ?


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 25, 2006, 04:47:45 AM
It is also so hard because GNR is one of the very greatest bands of all times.  And I am not being a homer on this.  I mean Slash along with Izzy are one of the greatest one two punches ever.  This just all makes me sick.  I can't wait for the new VR album.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: mikegiuliana on February 25, 2006, 04:59:31 AM
yeah izzy n slash were amazing,.,... I rank them high up there as axe men... I am anxiously awaiting both albums, I just don't view axl's album as gnr, but I am enjoying the music so far


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 25, 2006, 01:16:34 PM
Mike, I too enjoy, but should be called something else.  Isn't this just like Black Sabbath then Ozzy?  See, Ozzy proves that Axl could have been a big draw solo style.  But yeah, I like the songs.  Just when I want GNR, I want GNR, not the new songs Axl is doing.  Now there is a void out there cause not even Axl is doing the GNR style thing anymore.  So now it is okay if VR takes on that role of the modern day GNR.  Do this sound crazy?


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: mikegiuliana on February 26, 2006, 05:20:00 AM
Mike, I too enjoy, but should be called something else.? Isn't this just like Black Sabbath then Ozzy?? See, Ozzy proves that Axl could have been a big draw solo style.? But yeah, I like the songs.? Just when I want GNR, I want GNR, not the new songs Axl is doing.? Now there is a void out there cause not even Axl is doing the GNR style thing anymore.? So now it is okay if VR takes on that role of the modern day GNR.? Do this sound crazy?

well that is perfect, sabbath wasn't sabbath with dio, ozzy did the right thing once he went solo and had a major career, he could have had fixtures (axl) like zakk wylde or randy rhoads.. You are a lot like me, you love gnr but the real one... You like the new songs but don't agree with them calling themselves gnr..

I would like to see vr take on that closer to afd role of gnr then axl taking the illusions to the next step.. I am pleased with both sets of music, I think songs like slither ygnr loving the alien, dlt or dlt by axl would have had this place claiming it was awesome..  I think musically vr rocked, they could use  aboost lyrically and vocally.. Songs like illegal I, spectacle just have great openings instrumentally.. I think vr stuck to their rock roots.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: blackpainter on February 26, 2006, 11:27:12 AM
Haha, I just think slash's solo work in street child is amazing, santana's solo work in foofoo and american Gypsy is amazing. Music is to delight people, I get shocked and enjoy, thats very fine and enough, there's no need to bash any music only coz its not your style, though only IMO, ha. :peace:

Slash will be back to GNR only if axl would fire his guitarist and Slash would fire his vocal, that will not bring any respect for both men IMO. I'd rather move on ::) You can say the ones who like the new lineup and stuffs are only kids among gnr fans, but people change and enjoy their new life, would wont stop for anyone.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: tomass74 on February 26, 2006, 09:13:38 PM
Mike, afte hearing the new GNR, it really makes me appreciate Slash even more.? I know everyone comments on Axl vs. Scott and how it is so different.? Same could be said about Slash vs. anyone that is in GNR.? They are not even in the same league.? Just goes to show you that it doesn't matter how many notes you can play per second, there is a reason why Slash is a guitar hero/God and those others are not.? He just has the ability to completey suck you into his playing.? It is so beautiful and perfect for each song.? And you don't ever forget his playing, where as I can't even remember what the hell bucket and fink are playing.?


It is not only Slash vs New (nu) GNR...
It is also Duff,? Matt,? Gilby,? Izzy...? ?Everyone in former line up beats anyone in current

I agree for the most part..... I still think G n' R  was better without Matt... I would rather have Brain then him....


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: tomass74 on February 26, 2006, 09:16:11 PM
Mike, I too enjoy, but should be called something else.? Isn't this just like Black Sabbath then Ozzy?? See, Ozzy proves that Axl could have been a big draw solo style.? But yeah, I like the songs.? Just when I want GNR, I want GNR, not the new songs Axl is doing.? Now there is a void out there cause not even Axl is doing the GNR style thing anymore.? So now it is okay if VR takes on that role of the modern day GNR.? Do this sound crazy?

I use that analogy alot..  Axl would be pretty damn big going out as himself..  I mean, the shit he does doesn't even sound like any Gn'R that has ever been released... He should go out solo and leave the door open for a reunion...


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Butch Français on February 27, 2006, 11:34:05 AM
what young singers are worty? haha


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: oldgunsfan on March 03, 2006, 10:49:19 AM
yeah izzy n slash were amazing,.,... I rank them high up there as axe men... I am anxiously awaiting both albums, I just don't view axl's album as gnr, but I am enjoying the music so far

all of it  :-\ or the recent leaks

some of that music includes: rhiad, silkworms, OMG; not exactly Axl's best work :hihi:


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: oldgunsfan on March 03, 2006, 10:49:59 AM
what young singers are worty? haha

Christina Aguilera and Joss Stone bopth have incredible voices


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: SADIS on March 03, 2006, 11:55:34 AM
I wouldn't mind it if Slash did something with Pink. She has an incredible voice, and is a major GnR fan.....too bad her own music is crap.


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 03, 2006, 12:01:22 PM
yeah izzy n slash were amazing,.,... I rank them high up there as axe men... I am anxiously awaiting both albums, I just don't view axl's album as gnr, but I am enjoying the music so far

all of it? :-\ or the recent leaks

some of that music includes: rhiad, silkworms, OMG; not exactly Axl's best work :hihi:

Well I have been a fan since afd so I have enjoyed all the music pretty much up until sftd in 94.. Wasn't as happy when izzy left and the band had that mega bloatation during shows like tokyo..93 had the cool vibe going tour wise more stripped down..

As for the new gnr I like some of the new material, but they don't rank as high as my favs in the old, but the ones I dislike riyad, cd, omg silkworms are right there with their worst music since gnr exists


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: oldgunsfan on March 03, 2006, 01:11:50 PM
^^ so you have the same exact take on this new shit as i do.....but i also dislike The Blues and Madagascar and Chinese Democracy....and Catcher.....so far I'm only liking 3/10

which is an extremely low percentage for me as I was a freshman in HS when AFD 1st hit


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 03, 2006, 02:20:07 PM
see for me the blues or maddy are good songs, just not classics or anything like most people feel, they were songs that held me over for a year.. They aren't like jungle or scom or pc civil war nr estranged coma ycbm that will always be played

Songs like oh my god held my interest briefly in november 99, riyad never held my interest nor did silkworms.. CD i thought at first was ok, but really hearing it lfor a while I just think it's weak especially compared to the gnr guitar era

Right now I am happy with

twat, better, citr (catchy pop tune) makes me sad n happy.I think of black hole sun, or can't fight this feeling when it starts... Even irs has one highlight which is buckets kick ass solo at the end


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: Butch Français on March 03, 2006, 03:03:14 PM
what young singers are worty? haha

Christina Aguilera and Joss Stone bopth have incredible voices

well, I don't care how much they manage to whine into the mic...they're still far from worthy! :hihi:


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: oldgunsfan on March 03, 2006, 04:17:56 PM
Mike, I too enjoy, but should be called something else.? Isn't this just like Black Sabbath then Ozzy?? See, Ozzy proves that Axl could have been a big draw solo style.? But yeah, I like the songs.? Just when I want GNR, I want GNR, not the new songs Axl is doing.? Now there is a void out there cause not even Axl is doing the GNR style thing anymore.? So now it is okay if VR takes on that role of the modern day GNR.? Do this sound crazy?

I'd actually like that to.....


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: oldgunsfan on March 03, 2006, 04:24:29 PM
I think he was planning to do some kind of album like that a while before VR started to happen, am I wrong?

Yeah he had been planning that before VR.... I think it would be awesome. Not a pop album liek Santana but just all different people.. I am sure he would pick some weirdos though.. It would be cool if the whole thing was rockin though. Hmmmmm, how about..

Steven Tyler
Ozzy
Izzy
Ian Astbury
Mick Jagger
Robert Plant
Kid Rock
DMX

My Brain isn't working well right now, but that would be an interesting start.


you picked alot the people I'd mention: like S. Tyler, Ozzy, R. Plant, M. jagger but I'd like him to do a one off with Axl, Chistina Aguilera, joss Stone na d Sarah McClughlin....don't ask me wahy I put those three women in there other than they have killer voices and Joss Stone's got the closest voice to Janis Joplin since janis


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: SADIS on March 03, 2006, 07:21:28 PM
and Joss Stone's got the closest voice to Janis Joplin since janis

Did you ever hear Pink's voice? Or her rendition of Piece of My Heart....she beats Joss Stone times 10


Title: Re: what if slash pulled a santana working with the younger singers
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 03, 2006, 07:24:39 PM
I thought mellisa ethridge doing covers of janis were great..

Joss I just want that six footer assuming the position