Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I mean shit all these years have passed.. When he first walks onstage already and jungle kicks in and he gets his first chance to address the crowd what will he say, who will he rant on?? How do you explain everything to the fans he knows have been patiently waiting all this time..? Can he play a show without mentioning cd's time table..? Carrying lots of weight on his shoulders this time around..

I want to see a live video stream of their first show so I can hear his first words again , just to hear what he has to say when the stage is his soap box..  SHould be very interesting.. :o

he probably will Do some ranting but im not expecting a lot. Hopefully he'll give a few interviews where he can sit down and think about things and try to do some explaining?...

he doesn't seem too nervous to me....

i agree, it will be very interesting to hear.
four years have passed since 2002, he will need to do some talking, although no one's forcing him to.
i'm so excited about this i can't sit still. :drool:

Well the pressure isn't on yet.. the album release (all the ,money that went into it), the shows (making each one) will influence the NA tour.. I think axl is udner a load of pressure, show the world 2002 was a fluke so to speak..


I just want to hear the man speak in front of say the rio crowd....

I'll be there!! And I'm expecting that the breaks between the songs will be at least as interesting as the actual songs ;D ;)
He will probably make several rants ala Rio III. Topics may be:
- new album release (BUT OF COURSE 8))
- slash's latest statements about Axl and the new album
- internet (again) and the leaks
- the new man on the guitar (whoever, or whatever :hihi: he is...)
- the loyalty of the fans
- the cancelation of the 2002 world tour
- the whole velvet revolver thing (unlikely, but possible)
- the legal issues with the old members of the band (now this will be funny ;D)

nothing else spreads into my mind right now, but I preview it will be a looooong gig : ok:

I assume he'll blame everyone else for his problems & complain about his earpiece. Isn't that what usually occurs?

I'm curious to his opinions on Velvet Revolver.

Maybe he'll mention how Scott Weiland stole his hat.

Hmmm.  Maybe he will make mention of:

- car dealership woes
- Buckethead flying the coop
- contacts with other former band members
- where he found his fashion inspirations
- the recording / re - recording process
- his psychics (thank god they found the right auroa!!)
- Earl & Betta
- the status of rock n' roll
- how good it is to be back!!

I can't wait for the first speech / rant / mental break down!!!!  It's gonna be great!! :) 

"I assume he'll blame everyone else for his problems & complain about his earpiece. Isn't that what usually occurs?"

that's funny...I think he'll be very polite until he reads a review

i think he'll have a rant about Slash and Co.

it seems alot of the stuff I heard seemed to be referencing them at the very least, indirectly

Wht the fuck are you here?
Oh right you have nothing better to do with your time,so you bash a band you obviously dont like ::)

The great songs on CD will explain everything i hope. The saying GOOD things come to those who wait, is appropriate at this time

If CD comes out and it blows everyone away, all will be forgiven. It's that simple.

I do however, think that he will be more nervious this time around than he was in 2002 because this time he actually has something to prove. Mainly that 2002 was not representative of what he is capable of doing. This time he will be playing mainly his own new songs (hopefully) and not relying on old gnr music to get him through the concerts. This will put more pressure on him because it is truely the time to put up or shut up and if he blows it this time when he is playing his own music that will pretty much be the end of Axl Rose as we know him. There will be no fall back this time where fans can say, "well, just wait until Chinese Democracy comes out, then we'll really see where Axl is at."

 ::) do ya think so?
...he's so fucking rich n' famous to explain his fucking life...he'll just say lies 'bout why he's been outta stage after this time!!!  :-\  , remember he's not like us!, we're the ones who must explain everything we do just cuz we must work hard to pay our food but he mustn't work anymore if he wanna....he just sings cuz he was born to be a rich celebrity, that's it!!!! 

I would probably go into a coma from laughing to hard if Axl mentions that! :hihi:

you're a sad person. :no:
i feel bad for you, honestly. :-\

pathetic haters who will come crawling back like worms once CD drops aside though, it's about time this ball started rolling and axl will have to capitalize on this moment. we are finally in for something major and it feels so good lol 8)

I don't think Axl will have anything bad to say about Slash. I really think they're ready to let bygones be bygones. I think he'll come back, kick some serious ass, and smile all the way to the bank.

With, of course, Izzy back in the band.

I'm telling you, it's going to happen.

i guess u're dreamin' away from the real world buddy!....remember that Cindy Lauper was richer than GNR but suddenly da'girl tried to rule da'world again but all she just got was scorn from her ex-fans ?:hihi: ?...Axl might face da'same too so don't ya forget!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?:no:

Its awesome to think about this.

I hope Axl stays the same and doesnt sell out, that is my only hope. I hope he is still the great amazing frontman we all remember and i hope he dont start giving the nice, media answers.

I cant wait to read the first ever featured interview, its gonna be sooooooo amazing getting to learn about everything that has went on.

ARV.... why are you laughing at Cindy Lauper's ex-fans scorning her!? That's not very nice! Poor Cindy! *hugglez Cindy*
And anyway, you're wrong. Axl won't face that. He has too many FAITHFUL fans who will support his decisions.

Anyhoo, back on topic. I think Axl probably IS nervous, but face it, he's a pro! He's gone up on stage hundreds of times before! He'll have no trouble! Also, I would say he's more excited than nervous... if he was that nervous, he wouldn't be appearing everywhere and posing for photos everywhere! He looks a helluva lot better than he did back in 00-02, almost back to the UYI days look... :drool: and I to me it seems that he's raring to go!

And when he does go up onstage at Download with Robin, Richard, Brain, Dizzy, Tommy and Bucket (or Bucket's replacement), I'll be RIGHT there waitin' so I can cheer him on!! :peace: : ok:

he'll laugh off, but mention, the collapse of the last round id assume - like he has laughed off missed shows later on in the tours.

id be interested to see what he has to say about buckets departure.

im sure he could go on about his old companions all tour, but maybe he'll let the new tunes and lyrics do that for him.
i would like a nod here and there to VR. a good axl pisstake cant go wrong.

r ya sayin' that Axl is God who can't come down, ever? c'mon...he's just a human being n' remember he had to cancel the tour around the u.s.a in 2002 cuz eveyone was hearin' eminem n' Shakira over there...so think your lines before postin' them in here da'next time !!!!  :yes:

I hope the critics dont damn axl with jokes and bullshit before the album comes out.

It seems though that Axl still has IT cause this is phenomenal shit goin on.

of course he does, i never doubtet that for a second : ok:
the media ain't shit, fuck'em, let's do this! :smoking: :beer:

If you had bothered to pay attention what I had actually posted, instead of twisting my words around in your mind, you wouldn't be sayin' that.
I didn't say that Axl was God.
I said that he won't face most of his fans scorning him, because unlike the ex-fans of Cindy Lauper, we're actually LOYAL, and we're not all cynical pessimists. : ok:

And "think before posting your lines" ??? This coming from someone who's posts make as much sense as Japanese Pig Latin!! :rofl:

 Mike, I actually hope he doesn't do any rants. There are other ways to speak to his fans besides ranting on stage. He needs to stop treating everything like its a game. Just put on a mindblowing 2 hour show, and that will silence all his critics.

I will say it.... Axl = God... Slash = Jesus

I agree, I can't wait to hear what hes gonna say, its been so long since we've heard from him.  Axl rants are what makes Axl, Axl.  Its all part of the show.  I don't think hes ever been one to not repond to his critics, to the naysayers.  If CD is out before RIR, you KNOW hes going to give a HUGE thank you to all the fans and prob dedicate "patience" to all of us  : ok:

HELL YEA!!! @ HannaHat. That would be SO FUCKIN' AWESOME if he thanked us all and then dedicated Patience to us!! :peace:

                                                                                   
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want rants from axl, CMON AXL BRING EM ON!!!! GET   ^    IN THE RING!!!  :rant:

D honestly if he lightened up a bit in general and kind of acted like he was getting older it wouldn't bother me a bit.. if I saw aeromsith or the stones I wopuldn't need rants n raving from steven or mick, just a great show would be cool.... I want to hear axl talk mainly because I want to know thes troy behind cd basically and things that hav egone wrong.. Otherwise I don't need a warren beatty rant these days

Yeah I agree with that. Maybe make jokes about starting a riot, other shit like that. Hopefully he's in a mood similar to the one he was in at the HOB show. He seemed happy, and it made it a very good show. His rants cause trouble, puts him in a shitty mood, and increases the chance for a riot.

I don't worry about his rants causing any trouble, I just worry about him making each show, that should be everyone's biggest concern as a fan..

At this point I still don't even know if any one will sponsor a new guns tour(in the usa) without cd out making money.. This could definetly be why he is touring festivals first..

Yeah, I seen someone else mention something like that. Proving himself overseas to make himself marketable here. If he's a blockbuster over there, then he has to be given a chance here. But like you said, if pulls that no show shit, causes riots, walks off stage mid performance, then this tour will be even shorter than the last one. People(promoters,fans) just aren't going to put up with that shit anymore.

i think this year they should get lojack and attach it to axl, and if that doesn't work just do a hanibal and put the mask on his face, attach him to the hand truck and roll him to the venues,.... I don't think the success in europe even matters... To the usa that's like david hasslehoff doing good in germany.... GNR can have zero new material and play a few nights once per year and they would do great each time.. I don't know if this gnr has that maiden ac/dc status where they can release nothing all over the world and still sell out any venue..

GNR is definitely no ACDC. Success requires new material. Shit, just imagine that UYI tour with no album. Maybe success at first, but would have got old quick. Yeah, Axl can kick Rio's ass whenever he wants to, album or no album. Its when he starts branching out that it becomes a huge problem. The casual fan doesnt want to hear unknown songs, and the casual fan doesn't want to just hear 20 year old songs. Its like a catch 22 situation. He's got to have CD in stores, or when he makes his way to New York and California, he might as well just play the free stage at the county fairs, because that is the only seats he will be able to fill.

I don't think axl will ever have a problem with nyc, say there is 10 million in the city alone, then every neighboring state jersey conn or even upstate ny or long island will get a few easily so 15-20K tickets is not a big deal

I think you need it for the smaller areas like wisconson or ohio

Yeah but how long can he sustain himself in those large markets with no album? NY and L.A. for awhile, but not many other places. Without an album, he's looking at empty arenas. He should avoid those states you just mentioned(and a few others). When he comes to my area(arco arena in Sacramento closest to me), is that gonna sell out? It only holds like 10,000 people, maybe less.  I just dont want this tour having a nostalgic vibe surrounding it.

I want an album and anything less would suck period end of discussion.. Certain venues just aren't an indication of the newer band's success that's what I am also saying..

Come on, maybe just a little rant? ;)? Listen to the crowd cheer at Leeds before November Rain when he goes nuts? :hihi:

Seriously I hope for a trouble free tour too. I think we'll be hearing from Axl on stage. I think he'll be keen to move on though so he might not address the issues of the 02 tour etc. That might be more for a RS interview or something. I agree with you james and tend to think he'll go on stage to kick ass! The fact that he has chosen Motley Crue to open in Dublin could be to win over the old school R&R crowd again. I'm sure he'll have a little rant about something or a sarcastic joke when he does that funny voice imitating people and quotes? :hihi:

I bet on seeing a new axl ..few rants & no mentions of the past .



 

I think Axls mood and rants will depend on how the shows and possibly CD are progressing in terms of sales and positive media. I still think he might mention the recent leaks though but it's hard to know if he'll be annoyed about them or just make a joke.However i generally i think Axls best performances come when he is in a very good mood or pissed off e.g. he seems in a good mood at the ritz 88 and thats a kickass show and yet in Chicago 92 he has a couple of rants to the crowd and his perfomance is still awesome in that show. What would be worst is if he seemed fairly uninterested like tokyo 92.

I think a rant or two is inevitable....Axl just can't help himself.  Has there been a show where he hasn't said anything?  I like when artists talk to the crowd a little bit.  Makes the show more personal and you connect with them better.  Its like going to a ball game and having the players acknowledge or play to the crowd...just makes it more fun.

I wonder if conan will speak of the leaks or some newer pics to mess around.. I think he should go on conan obrien and have a laugh.. I'd even like new guns on SNL so axl could do some sketch acting..  Well we'll know the new guns have arrived when they become sketches like axl with matt damon

I think she was trying to make a joke.   ::) Obviously she likes the band if she has 1,000 posts on a GUNS N' ROSES
God forbid anyone should say anything about the holy one.

 :nervous:    hell !!!!, something tells me you've been hearin' Cindy Lauper after all this fucking time..... but someday will ya admit she's not a' amazing idol anymore, won?t ya?  :o

?n? please remember that Axl?s also a human being, he?s not livin? into a fancy story cuz this is da?real world  :-\

No ranting = Not Axl

Dude, I didn't say that Axl's not a human being incapable of mistakes!! I KNOW this is the real world. ::)
And no I haven't been hearing any new Cindy Lauper stuff. ::)

Oh, and you still make as much sense as a rabbit speakin' in Japanese Pig Latin. :hihi:

Eeeexactly!!
Besides, I like the rants! It shows personality!
I hate frontmen who don't DO anything onstage!! Every time I catch myself watching a non-Gn'R live show on TV, and the frontman ain't doin' nothin... its like "DUDE!! DO SOMETHING!!! SAY SOMETHING!!! ANYTHING!!!" But no. The guy just stands there like a wet cat, spewing out what seems to be the same song over and over again!! RAAH! Makes me wanna get up there onstage, get ahold of whoever's it is's neck, shake him around a bit, while yellin' "DO SOMETHING!!! FOR FUCKS SAKE!! DON'T JUST STAND THERE!! ENTERTAIN THE CROWD!! YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT!!!" :hihi:

honey, everyone is noticin' that you can't stop carin' 'bout Cindy Lauper n' her ridiculous career so don't add your naive opinion 'bout my english n' the hispanic culture this time cuz something tells me that your dad is Cuban but what did he do to make you cry n' hate da'hispanic world? ...c'mon, let's admit that Shakira n' ricky Martin r rulin' ur mind while you adore'em deep own inside !!!!  ;D

What the hell are you on about!? I couldn't care less about Cindy Lauper, Shakira, nor Ricky Martin. That last one making me feel sick to my stomach...

I don't hate the Hispanic world. I don't hate anyone!! What reason do I have to hate anyone!? My dad is NOT Cuban, and he didn't do ANYTHING to make me cry OR hate the Hispanic culture! Yes, my dad's a bit of a cunt from time to time, but hey, I just ignore it.

I only said that about your posts because a lot of the time I can't actually understand what you've written! No offense meant at all... but I was slightly annoyed at the time because you were basically sayin' that I'm an immature little girl who believes that Axl is the all-seeing, all-hearing, all-knowing, omnipotent, immortal God, when I never even said anything like that in the first place!

And don't call me "honey".

I'm gonna love that!  My wife can't stand that voice.  I think it's funny as shit.  :hihi:

Nervous as hell?  I think not.  Nerves only come into play when you are unsure of yourself.  It's all about preparation.  Something tells me with all this time to plan his next move, the plan is in place and we'll be seeing more news shortly.   : ok:

If Axl's a bit nervous at first, I wouldn't be surprised. I expect everything to go well though, and I expect him to be in good spirits by the end of the show. I really look forward to hearing a set mainly consisting of new music. I wouldn't even mind hearing a new rant or two. I'm sure that they're therapeutic. Heh.

Why would he be nervous when there is a good chance he has some hand in the leaks? As I stated before, the leaks have occurred when he reappeared from obscurity. One deduces that Axl's participation at some level is behind the leaks.

ANother reason to be nervous is the guy is somewhat reclusive or private, now he has to do major tours and promote his new album.. The guy has been missing for years now all of a sudden he is going to jump right back in like he didn't miss a beat and tour for years,,,, He's getting older which will make it harder to keep up the old pace like during the illusions, having to make sure he doesn't miss any shows without good reason, having a promoter in the states after the cc inncident,,... I feel for axl , he has a lot ahead of him knowing his past record with tours.

oh that's ok, i won't call ya "Honey" anymore but all cuz of ya this thread shouldn't be called axl must be nervous, it must be called : SkynyrdGirl? must be nervous as hell (so much to do n' say) cuz ya seem lose control when you know i'm right? ?:confused: !,so please chill out, i told ya not to be nervous from now on!...by the way there's something wrong cuz ya should be a Ricky Martin fan...does your mother know 'bout it really?, does she know you have a rare reason to hate Ricky?? i guess ya both must talk 'bout, you SkynyrdGirl !? :-\

...Axl will have to face the creepy Press in Europe soon....hell, da'guy has many reasons to be nervous n' lose control over there !!!? ?:o?

Dude... I'm only losing control because you're spouting COMPLETE and UTTER bullshit about me!! Its none of your business if I like or despise Ricky Martin. Its none of your business whether or not I'm nervous, and its NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS what my mom knows about me!! You don't know me at all! Which is why I'm now going to completely ignore you. Please change your username to "Mr Nonsense". It fits.


Back on topic... Axl shouldn't be too nervous, but then again... there are complete assholes in the press who will do a complete hatchet job on him just because of their personal opinions. Especially in England, so I think the UK's paparazzi better prepare themselves for some nut-kickings.... :hihi: After all... if Axl doesn't kick their nuts, I sure will!! ;D

 :hihi:

Holy hell, this post made me go back and read this thread. This is why I love this site. What a great exchange, I thought her head was going to explode. I think I'm in love with skynardgirl.

he had to do some ass kissin over there...

:rofl: Well, my head wasn't quite gunna explode... but there's a vein in my forehead that came quite close to bursting! :hihi:

And uh... I have a fuckbuddy (sorry... I hate the word "Boyfriend"... it sounds so ... ugh!!) :hihi: