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Title: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Rocket_queen125 on February 21, 2006, 04:10:39 AM
Does anyone know much about this? Or is there any members on this board that were directly effected by this?? ive been reding up on this and researching it an i was just wondering how the world could just turn away from the people effected in this area


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 21, 2006, 04:12:21 AM
What part of the world are you in?

How old are you?

Just curious............


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Sin Cut on February 21, 2006, 04:27:54 AM
I remember it like yesterday;
when the heavy clouds of radioactive death came and consumed my goats and I swear I heard them screaming for help just before they started glowing green and turned into supermutant goats who will help me with my plans to take over the world.


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 21, 2006, 04:51:58 AM
 I remember minor details about it. After it happened the Soviet Union tried to cover it up. Also, small amounts of radiation circled the globe twice immediately after it happened. Also, for more than a decade that city was literally a ghost town. I seen a show about it on tv years ago, and the reporter was in that city, and nothing was there. It had been left just like it was when the meltdown occured. It was eerie. Like Twlight Zone shit.


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Rocket_queen125 on February 21, 2006, 04:52:44 AM
yea not funny... im 20 im from Iowa but currently in hawaii and this just recently caught my eye when i seen a picture of a baby girl born with her brain outside her skull

well from what i understand it is still a ghost town i have been looking at pictures of it and it is very eerie
 
what my biggest concern is that there are children over there that need surgeries and all sort of other operations that are performed rather routinely in the us and uk but doctors in ukraine and russia turn them down for the operations simply becuase they dont have the know how or $$


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Sin Cut on February 21, 2006, 05:02:39 AM
Actually it happened 86, so I don't really remember how much it was on the news, the toxic-cloud did reach Finland but I don't know how much it affected the population where it reached (is there more cancer in the area etc.)

My teacher at elementary school told us that there's a sign there telling everyone to drive through with windows closed, but I don't know if it's a fact, he also told us that people working at the meltdown were paid good but only were allowed to work a short time and afterwards shouldn't return to the are, but it could be urban legend for all I know.


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 21, 2006, 05:07:32 AM
?im from Iowa but currently in hawaii ?
You have to be the only person on vacation in hawaii that is thinking about the Chernobyl Disaster. :hihi: Seriously though, it is an interesting story. You should check on cable channels like Discovery Channel and TLC. I'm sure they have programs about it ocassionally. Yeah, its horrible what happened to the victims. They were like swept under the rug and forgotten about. But that's what happens in societies like that. I'm sure if it happened again, the response would be much different.


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Rocket_queen125 on February 21, 2006, 05:33:18 AM
yes Nuclear mechanics or tech or operators are not allowed to work in radiated areas for long periods of time, i work on a nuclear powered sub and there are limits that the nuke ppl  can work in certain areas,


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Rocket_queen125 on February 21, 2006, 05:34:41 AM
  im from Iowa but currently in hawaii 
You have to be the only person on vacation in hawaii that is thinking about the Chernobyl Disaster. :hihi: Seriously though, it is an interesting story. You should check on cable channels like Discovery Channel and TLC. I'm sure they have programs about it ocassionally. Yeah, its horrible what happened to the victims. They were like swept under the rug and forgotten about. But that's what happens in societies like that. I'm sure if it happened again, the response would be much different.

Man i wish i was on vacation or just visiting this place but no i live here


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Izzy on February 21, 2006, 09:58:30 AM
The plant authrorities had disengaged all the safeties to try and get more power - and managed to blow the thing up

Gotta feel bad for the fire crews that went in to deal with the it knowing they had no chance of surviving it



Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Evolution on February 21, 2006, 11:02:44 AM
for more than a decade that city was literally a ghost town. I seen a show about it on tv years ago, and the reporter was in that city, and nothing was there. It had been left just like it was when the meltdown occured. It was eerie. Like Twlight Zone shit.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/chapter1.html


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 21, 2006, 11:12:58 AM
for more than a decade that city was literally a ghost town. I seen a show about it on tv years ago, and the reporter was in that city, and nothing was there. It had been left just like it was when the meltdown occured. It was eerie. Like Twlight Zone shit.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/chapter1.html
I read that article. Interesting. If I'm ever in the area, I'm gonna make a pit stop in Chernobyl. :hihi:


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: GNR-Chris on February 21, 2006, 11:17:57 AM
Its a really interesting subject, I did some work about it when I was in Uni. It is also a really horrible story when you look into it at a personal level.

I have been to Belarus which was badly affected by radiation, and there is a massive problem with child cancers and the like. Also vegetables cannot be eaten because they are all contaminated. Problem is the people have to eat them because there is no alternative.

The main problem was the design of the RMBK reactor, IMO it is just totally flawed, it was not possible for it to 'fail-safe'.

Then there is also the politics of the situation for the days after the incident, politicians not listening to scientists, no-one taking proper responsibility etc

It was a really bad situation, but the authorities made it a hell of a lot worse.

There are some good books on the subject, and the BBC have done a few programmes on it that are really interesting. The names escape me at the moment though. Go to a library and look at some scientific papers on the subject, there is loads out there on almost every subject relating to Chernobyl'.

Chris


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Evolution on February 21, 2006, 11:18:30 AM
That would be one crazy experience. The feeling of being the only person around would be humbling.


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: GNR-Chris on February 21, 2006, 11:21:40 AM
for more than a decade that city was literally a ghost town. I seen a show about it on tv years ago, and the reporter was in that city, and nothing was there. It had been left just like it was when the meltdown occured. It was eerie. Like Twlight Zone shit.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/chapter1.html
I read that article. Interesting. If I'm ever in the area, I'm gonna make a pit stop in Chernobyl. :hihi:

I think I have read somewhere that the story is faked. It does sound a bit strange, but then over there life is strange...


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 21, 2006, 11:29:43 AM
for more than a decade that city was literally a ghost town. I seen a show about it on tv years ago, and the reporter was in that city, and nothing was there. It had been left just like it was when the meltdown occured. It was eerie. Like Twlight Zone shit.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/chapter1.html
I read that article. Interesting. If I'm ever in the area, I'm gonna make a pit stop in Chernobyl. :hihi:

I think I have read somewhere that the story is faked. It does sound a bit strange, but then over there life is strange...
Good point. If its so horrible there, why let someone ride around through there? If its safe enough for that, why not just live there? When I seen that show about it awhile back, I had the impression that it was like an exclusive look at the place.


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Evolution on February 21, 2006, 11:45:39 AM
Living suggests something long term, surely you would be fine going through for an hour or two?


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 21, 2006, 11:47:06 AM
Living suggests something long term, surely you would be fine going through for an hour or two?
What if you ran out of gas? :nervous:


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Rockin' Rose on February 21, 2006, 11:47:52 AM
I remember minor details about it. After it happened the Soviet Union tried to cover it up. Also, small amounts of radiation circled the globe twice immediately after it happened. Also, for more than a decade that city was literally a ghost town. I seen a show about it on tv years ago, and the reporter was in that city, and nothing was there. It had been left just like it was when the meltdown occured. It was eerie. Like Twlight Zone shit.

Yep, even though it was an terrible incident one funny thing that happened was that Sweden asked Finland if the accident had happened in here...


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 21, 2006, 11:51:07 AM
I remember minor details about it. After it happened the Soviet Union tried to cover it up. Also, small amounts of radiation circled the globe twice immediately after it happened. Also, for more than a decade that city was literally a ghost town. I seen a show about it on tv years ago, and the reporter was in that city, and nothing was there. It had been left just like it was when the meltdown occured. It was eerie. Like Twlight Zone shit.

Yep, even though it was an terrible incident one funny thing that happened was that Sweden asked Finland if the accident had happened in here...
Even the U.S. had minor trouble figuring out what happened. I think it took several days, and satellites had to be used to confirm the source of the meltdown.


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Evolution on February 21, 2006, 12:03:24 PM
Living suggests something long term, surely you would be fine going through for an hour or two?
What if you ran out of gas? :nervous:

You're fucked!


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Sin Cut on February 21, 2006, 12:13:31 PM
Damn, I wanna go there!

and now after reading the article, I want to go there even more!


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Rocket_queen125 on February 21, 2006, 03:20:45 PM
The plant authrorities had disengaged all the safeties to try and get more power - and managed to blow the thing up

Gotta feel bad for the fire crews that went in to deal with the it knowing they had no chance of surviving it

 

disengaging safeties would not give it more power

Living suggests something long term, surely you would be fine going through for an hour or two?
What if you ran out of gas? :nervous:

You're fucked!

Nah its not that bad its takes time and over time like years being contaminated you would face problems but the radiation has infected the wildlife there and ppl there eat the wildlife so that creates another prob...

anyways you wont catch me loidering there


Title: Re: The Chernobyl Disaster
Post by: Grouse on February 21, 2006, 08:50:22 PM
I know that when that happend people over here in the netherlands weren't allowed to drink milk produced by dutch cows, because those had eaten grass wich was contaminated by radio active particles...and we're a long way from chernobyl so the effects were pretty wide spread.