Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Does the CD need to come out before they play these festivals?  I think it does.  They can't just do the same thing as 2002.  I don't see how they could do it any other way.  Also, think it would be huge for album sales.

The European crowd will buy tickets regardless - but it sure wouldn't hurt.

I think the CD needs to come out before the tour.  But not before the festivals.

I'm so hopefull we'll get the CD before the tour.  I think this time it's a must to have the album out first

well CD could be in our stereo's in 3-4 weeks time.

I think they should get CD out before the festivals. They definitely should have a single out at least.

I don't know any inside info so what I say is just my views.

With all the recent rumours (and now tours) I guarentee we will have an announcement this week (Wednesday or Friday) and the album will either be out March or April.

The festivals will be warm up.. then the album or at least a single and then the start of the tour.

Oh and Axl WILL be coming to Australia ?:D ?*fingers crossed*

They really should release the CD... before the tour! It makes no sense to show people music before they can actually purchase it. I thought the point of touring was to make your music more popular, but if fans cant buy your music, then whats the point???

craphead dave , no they will not, guns and roses has a very bad standing in germany and england for example. we will not buy tickety anyhow. we will buy tickets if we are sure that This time the readhead will show up and he will have something goog to give to us.... :beer:

true enough.

i dont think we will see the album before the shows (and part of me hopes we dont - cause i want another classic gnr set like at leeds in 2002 - if we get the record, it could clog up the setlist), but you never know if if these reports of an imminent announcement prove grounded.

before an american tour it has to come out, no more of that cd world tour without it,.. : ok: Doesn't fly here witht eh greatest ticket sales

If CD does not come out before the tour starts I will lose a lot of faith in the intelligence of Axl. I say that because I think everyone saw that the 2002 tour was badly hurt by the fact that the band didn't want to play new songs since they feared that they would be bootlegged and the crowds (at least in the US) were not what they could have been because there was not really anything to draw fans to the concerts other than the fact that the band was named Guns N' Roses.

We have been saying on these boards ever since 2002 that a tour without a released CD is pointless. If CD has not been released before the summer, Axl might as well stay home.

Call me a pessimist, I guess waiting almost 13 years for an album can do that to you. However, despite the recent leaks and the festival announcements I still don't think CD will be released this year. In his most recent 'interview' Axl did say we would hear music this year, I really believe he was referring to new material being played at these festivals and possibly a song released on a soundtrack (And who knows, maybe the leaks too if they WERE intentional). If he was indeed planning to release this year I think he would have said in that interview, maybe something along the lines of 'expect a release date soon' (Which he's said before!). Axl may also want to capitalize on the 20 year anniversery of AFD by releasing next year.  People forget how lenghty the process of putting an album together is, even AFTER all the material has been recorded (Which again according to Axl is 'almost' finished), things like album sequencing and choosing artwork can be mammoth tasks for any artist let alone Axl perfectionist Rose!

I am not trying to be a negative ass, just posting some thoughts of mine. We have all been let down before let's not drop our guard just yet. I hope to be proven wrong as I want this album as much as the next man, the new material is indeed amazing ('Mind blowing and fucking huge' as we were told!). TWAT really is one of the most beautiful songs I have heard for years, the lyrics, Axl's voice, the guitars it all makes the hairs on my neck stand up.

I'll still need a release date to answer yes, but I'm more optimistic now than I've ever been.

I believe the album will be out this year and we'll hear a definitive release date of some sort within a week.

If the Festivals keep blowing the lid off their news, we'll probably hear sooner.. like in the next 2-3 days.

-darknemus

i didn't register gnr2006.com for no reason  : ok:

I don't think so,but that's just because of 2000/2001/2002/2003/2004/2005 The Year Of Guns N' Roses :hihi:
I would love to be proven wrong though

Well things look better now than they ever have. Stuff leaking wheather it's intentional or not is a good sign. Schedualed shows rumor or not are aslo a good sign. Having said that I'm not convinced of anything yet. I'm definately not a supporter of the idea that the album will be out in March. End of April at the earliest but that would mean everything has to go into motion right now. A single would need to be on radio within a week or so and muisc stores(HMV, Virgin etc.) ?would need to be aware of a release date. ?Also in my opinion if the album isn't out by summer we won't see it untill at least late September. I don't see them dropping it in mid summer. After that we'd be looking at a Christmas release. It crazy. There seems to a be a window of opportunity right now but we all know that window can close in a heart beat.

Alice Cooper on "Nights with Alice Cooper" just said, "Since the new album is coming out this year, here's Paradise City"

Fuck it, I know I've put my faith in Axl before and was let down, but this is it man.  You know it's gonna happen this year.  It's gonna happen and that's that.  The time has come.  (remembers 2001 saying the same thing)....NO really this time! :beer:

I believe CD is coming this year. If it wasn't, Axl wouldn't be doing Rio, or any other shows. He's not stupid. He isn't going to make the same mistakes he made in 2001-2002.

yes, definately.

I don't want to get my hopes too high up, but I definitely think it will be out this year.

if you don't believe it now i guess you won't believe it untill you're actually holding CD in your hands...

All i can see is that i have believed it would be out when alot less confirmed rumors leaks sightings etc. ?were going around so i'm not not going to believe it now!

I't will be out before summer comes!

In all honesty.. Axl should play the whole album through. That would be fuckin great

Indeed.

Im praying. Tears will be shed with anymore confirmations.

my faith will never die  :smoking:

I believe that the INTENTION is to have the album out this year... but this is GN'R.... plans change.

yes i think this year ;D

God I hope you're right...

I cringe when I hear myself say..this will be the year...but I really think that this is it : ok:


Ok I can't lie I am cringing a little right now typing this..prays this is the year

That'd be nuts wouldn't it?? haha.  He releases the Rio set as CD: LIVE!!!

haha.  that'd be so f'ing surreal  :hihi:

:hihi: Just do what I do when the word 'soon' or this 'this year' is mentioned. Cross your fingers and kneel down and bow to the Gods. :hihi:

Seriously though, how could it NOT be the year? No reason to have all this activity without releasing CD. If thats the plan, why not just remember those memories or build a time machine and do it again? :hihi: This has to be the year. Its now or never.

One would think...but this IS Axl...I love him but you just never know. :nervous:   I say if god forbid this doesn't happen we all meet somewhere in NYC...James you fly in and we drink till we can't drink no more :peace:

He'll either put the album out before the shows or immediately after, while the hype of the situation is at its peak.

This might all be for the promotion of Greatest Hits II, which is still listed in some record stores as coming out in 2006 sometime.  Maybe a cover up for Chinese Democracy.

YEAH~!!! :peace: He fucking better.  :beer:

In answer to the question the thread title poses, yes, I do believe we will see it this year - the ball now seems to be rolling and surely a release is not far away.

Its funny, I dont know if this has been discussed or not, but Axls recent interview where he says "you'll hear music this year" whilst also saying there were songs still to be completed, at the time had me convinced it would be a late in the year release (if that). That does not seem to be the case....

I think old Uncle Axl threw a few red herrings into the mix in that interview ...  :-\

Is it possible that Slash, in recent interviews, has not been letting on about some things  either?  :drool:

I don't think it will be out March or April. I believe we could get a single or soundtrack song around that time or perhaps May. I'm predicting between May and September for the album.

the part about Slash scares me. I'm thinking something I shouldn't be thinking. *cant.....be..... true* can it?

i reckon we'll have a single atleast before these shows!! :yes:

yes, i reckon CHI-DEM will be out by the end of the year!!

I highly doubt a reunion takes place soon, Jimmy. I think both sides let the rumour stay floating in the air because it helps both sides. You're right about the Axl statement. He was either telling a little fib to keep the scent off, or was actually referring to an album after CD when saying it was "almost done". When we see the confirmed tracklist and there's not 13 on it, then we'll know he was just covering up the real progress.

all this somehow doesn't seem real! but I think it's nearly time

yeah Im not thinking full reunion, but partial is not totally out of the question - very unlikely tho.

I think they need more than a single out before Rio (Lisbon). They need the whole album out, and correct me if im wrong, the press release implies it will be out by then ..

Surely Axl and/or his management/advisors have learnt something from the 2002 debacle? ???

For his sake and ours, I certainly hope so. The album has to be out before Rio. No doubt. Not a single either, the whole album. If only a single is released, then he risks another 'Oh My God' type situation, and that would be worst case scenario. Negative reaction to 1 new song while he is on tour would likely cause chaos in the GNR camp. He's got to just throw the album out there, march ahead and dont look back.

I cant believe people r' talkin' about a reunion when all this is happenin' :o

atleast wait .....i dunno, heaps heaps later 'till we even concider thinkin' there will be some sort of a reunion......bloody hell :o , CHI-DEMS on its way!!  :beer:

Album coming this year.

Announcement coming within the next week and a half (if not the next few days).

hm... :-\ you know too much... :P

um...yeah, I believe it's comming this year...I've been sure about this since the first Axl pics  : ok:

They'd be idiots not to release an album before playing these festivals. If they showcase the new music without the album the crowd just won't be into it, and I think we'd all rather here the new stuff on the record first. If they just play the old stuff they'll be labelled 'hired guns' again. A single wouldn't be sufficient if you ask me.

Maybe Chinese Democracy before the festivals and a follow up before a tour next year?

Mr. Insider, could you narrow it down a little bit?? :hihi:

Chinese democracy will start in the next 4 wks wether it be a single or the album either way the lot will have to be fed to us before they go on tour.


I HONESTLY THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE MAJOR NEWS COMING OUR WAY SHORTLY & NOT REGARDING THE ALBUM........SOMETHINGS UP .....I WONDER .

If they are planning to play a festival I would hope that they would have new material to play...but I'll believe it when I can hold it in my hands...until then, no energy going into it...just some minor happy thoughts :hihi:
Does that event get televised every year? Just curious...

I'm getting hopeful the album will come out this year, but I think a March release isn't very likely.  It's already Feb. 21.  Usually an album will have an official single hit the air waves at least a month or so before the CD actually drops.  With it being practically March already and no release date set, I just don't see it happening that soon.

I agree, that April date seems much more realistic to me...But then again, we've been waiting for 10 years...Who cares about a month or two?  :peace:

No, no, no, no.

My post was a guess, just like all of yours.

My Guess:

Announcement and release date this week.

Release date sometime in June, but may be moved up if leaks of the actual studio cuts happen ( think eminem's problems with some of his stuff)

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA  :rofl:

You're funny, man.

he isn't joking. I'm actually thinking the end of march too

Slash wouldn't have said March unless it's March. He must know something.

but if it is march we would've gotten an official release date and single already...

i say single in march.

Just my two cents:

I'm absolutely sure that CD will be released within a few months, maybe in a few weeks already. It is totally clea that they can't fail again. They would not announce shows if CD were not on the way, not the smallest doubt about that.

I guess we will have a release date by the end of the week or maybe next week at the latest, as well as more tour dates. I think they won't take anymore risk and either release CD next month along with a few surprise shows or around RIR. And then tour behind it. Starting a tour in Europe is just logical. In the US, they blew it last time. Promoters are pissed, fans are pissed, and GNR are pissed (due to the very small audiences in most US-venues in 2002). GNR are bigger in Europe than they are in the US: At least in Germany they could sell out arenas in an instace, and I live in Cologne, so I know what I'm talking about.

I'd say build it up with festivals, then a EU-headliner tour, along with all the tv stuff, then head over to the US, or maybe Asia first.

One thing is pretty sure. If they mess it up this time, it is over. But I have faith.


/lastroots

well with all the activity and rumors i would say yeah, sure it'll be out

but from past history....I will have to believe it when it's in my hands

Didnt Slash say a new RECORD in March? That doesnt necessarily mean the album!!! Single maybe, but album - doubt it.

after hearing what Merck said, no, i don't think it'll be out this year

I'll believe it when I'm holding it in my hands.