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From mygnrforum:

"ok, just got off the phone with a friend of mine who called and requested IRS from rocket 101 and 103.1 the fox(im near buffalo ny). rocket 101 will play it again, but considering they just played it, they said to wait a while...

so ill be up at 2am when my friend requests it.

anyway, we tried to get 103.1 to play it, but they refused, saying that they cant play it again till they get the offical IRS single in march. he said that they had it listed, that they would be getting it sometime in march.

hmmmm, i have to believe this, even though part of me wants to deny it. its probably not worth asking merck about, as we will probably have the answer in a matter of days."

Better.

Thats interesting and is very plausible.

Better wont be the first single.. Its too different.

And didn't Merck say IRS wasnt top ten material? But then again its Merck so I guess we could see this happen.

I thought IRS wasn't considered a "big gun" (like not single material).


But I do think a ROCKER song will be better as a first single instead of a BALLAD.

From song that have gotten the most intenet play...

"Chinese Democracy" --->  played too much during concerts & bootleg.  Not a single.
"Madagascar" --->  same as above.
"The Blues" --->  same as above.
"I.R.S."  --->  does not sound too good to be a single.

"Better" --->  has the catch at the begining to drawn in people to say "what the f*ck is this?" and then kick it into GNR overdrive. to keep the listeners.  "Better" is a better single and more feasible to sell albums.

You cannot really say that considering you've heard no full studio versions of any songs and havn't heard more then half of the rest of the albums tracks.


And The Blues is much better then Better  :hihi:

IRS is a demo.. and its a few years old.. who knows what it sounds like now.

the part after the first 80 seconds of better is supposed to be amazing too!
 argh... it should be the first single, imo. not irs!

I think no matter how many times Guns has played Madagascar, the final CD version will worth a single. So far, it's still my favorite, I can imagine that with orchestal arrangements like NR.

That would be a grrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeaaaaattttt single !

Of the songs we've heard so far, "The Blues" would be the best single as far as surefire hits go.  That song would be huge, and it would make a great video.  "Better" sounds very promising, but I'd like to hear the chorus and the solos before making a final judgment on how good of a single it would be.

Better sound promising, but I'll wait to hear it complete.  :yes:

It doesn't matter if it is a demo or not. ?It has received exposure and "Better" gets a more positive reaction. ?It is a psychological situation.

if the guy answering the phone at 103 point whatever knows that a gn'r single is coming out in a few weeks time then so would we.

Pass.

I agree on that one too... same as Madagascar.

man, this "Better" song is taking on a whole new meaning

Are we forgetting the shit no one has heard yet? Maybe there is a song that will change music and that will be the frist single. Only Jesus knows.. and Axl.. and maybe Gilby.. Why Gilby? Idk its been a weird day and well im burned out.

If Axl has a cleaned up, solid sounding version of IRS then I think it might be time to relase it as a single even if the album isn't on it's way any time soon. This thing has gotten way out of his hands now and an official studio relase would be the only way to combat it. DO IT AXL!!!! There's nothng to be affraid of now. People love it. IRS in march makes sense. I still don't belive an album in March is likely though.

Having a song that hasn't been release would be odd. ?That would make 6 songs out of 13 that has been heard before the album hits stores.

I agree with Prucc. Better would be the more successful hit radio wise.

Maybe the leak sped up release plans-let's hope so : ok:

At this point it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to release a finished version of IRS on iTunes or something.  It's getting played on radio across the country and fans are going to be looking to download it.  They may as well put a totally clean, finished version on iTunes.  With the current hunger for new GnR material I bet if it continued to get radio play it'd get at least 500,000 to 1,000,000 digital sales even if it's not an official single

EH who knows the final track list.. Maddy and CD could be dropped.. Hell they album could have a new name... Who knows.. Merck doesnt bridge the gap of communication between Axl and us like he should.

Maybe, the radio guy is confusing a listed GNR single in March with the new I.R.S. leak. ?Maybe he is just assuming it will I.R.S. and perhaps it will be a different song. ?Just a posibbility. ?

That is plausibe and would be massive for GNR.  Especially if a demo version got that kind of attention. : ok:

I've said before,  March would be a great time for a single to drop, June would be perfect timing for CD to hit the market. :yes:

A single or OST song would be ideal right now.

Get a product out there that people can buy.

I was going to ask if there has been any confirmation on this matter,but I already know what it will be. Something real simple like this "no" :hihi:

TBH all I've seen here on the boards makes me wish Axl would turn to AOR (Album Orientated Rock for all you kiddies too young to remember bands like Pink Floyd in musical presentation). Let the albums speak for themselves, fuck the kids of today who live and die about who's #1 in the singles charts. The singles charts are in a sad way these days with the Britney, Cletus and Fetus whores who THINK they know REAL music from the manufactured shot they put out.

which member on mygnrforum was this posted by??

IRS is a decent song, but whatever the single is it has to be the best song they have.

Remember, people are going to judge the first single against not only the 10 year wait, but against Guns biggest and best songs.

So releasing something that may be better than most of what is out doesn't do diddly for Axl. The first single will be looked at in a "was this worth a 10 year wait for" light. So it needs to be the absolute best song the New Guns recorded.

i listened to the extended better and.... it`s nearly impossible to make better songs that that : ok:

I don't know what you guys are hearing when you listen to Better....I just don't hear an amazing song.  Its just not a rocker to me...theres no attitude or "danger" to it.  But like I always say, to each their own and it seems I'm in the minority here so....

IRS, if sped up and the guitars get some work, could be a total kick ass song IMO.

TWAT owns all right now as far as I'm concerned.

TWAT seems like a disjointed, uncompleted song.  I am having a real tough time thinking it's going to win many people over outside of these boards.  I am reading on non-GNR boards people's reactions, and basically it's ah, well people are not even getting through it.

Better is a hit.  That should be the 1st single!  It would really turn on the younger rock crowd, and the old GNR fans at the same time!

The best example for a re-introductory 1st single needs to be a bridge that melds Axl's current vision with just enough threads of the GNR people recall...now, which song it might be is beyond me to say.

I love IRS but why not Better or TWAT?  I think these would have a better chance of grabbing people.

It's a quiet way to sneak it out there but IRS is the 1st single.   That's not a demo, it is the finished product.

You'll see the album at the beginning of springtime because it's finished.

Axl sounds better than ever.  From one who's been with them from the very beginning, the sound has been worth the wait.

Better would be a kick ass single so would the blues. But i agree it was played at every show and lets hear something we havent like full version of better or something that wasnt leaked. It doesnt have to be a hard rockn song just a kick ass song and twat and better kick ass.

IMO

i always thought that "catcher in the rye" was gonna be the lead single...
much like we always knew about "chinese democracy" being the album...
if a single was about to come out i dont think it will be anything we have heard, even though i think "better" or "twat" would be good...
i think "twat" will be a single one day, personal song...Axl will want the world to feel it

IRS would be a poor choice for a single in my view

Its the poorest of the new bunch i reckon - just an average rock song, not bad but it certainly doesnt hail the second coming of a rock giant

People keep saying that we have heard 6 out of the 13 songs on CD but dont forget we are the diehard fans looking and searching for new songs and info.....Most people that i know think guns are over and havent even heard CD Blues or maddy..so really its not as bad a u say..not many people have heard the new songs .. :peace:

Look at the reaction this leak has gotten! Right now the words 'New Guns n Roses song' will make anything a hit, at least in terms of airplay. it doesnt matter how 'good' we percieve it to be all that matters is that it gets airplay, and the more airplay it gets, the more apt it is to become liked-if only because the radio-listening public wants to be associated with something that is 'popular'. ?how do you think musical mediocrity is spread nowadays? people want to be seen as with whatever is believed to be cool. the best way to make soemthing cool is to to repeat it constantly until its so ingrained in peoples heads that they need to have it or be associated with it. marketing psychology at its finest.

FYI, there is also a song called "Headwound" making the rounds that is NOT one of the leaked GN'R tunes.

To whomever said, "and you are???".......it's says Z does it not player?!?

Hope it does and I hope beter is the first song, it is the only song getting any good feedback outside of this forum (well the ones I posted the 3 links on)

What do you mean by this?  how is it not leaked?  or do you mean it wasn't on the disc?

agreed, take bucket out at the end and it's quite average

if irs is selected as a single i will take that as a sign that chinese democracy sucks

IRS rocks. Hard.

If it's gonna be the first single, that's fine with me.  :peace:

irs is cool but i think better would rock as a first single.

The Blues is a guaranteed hit single, that should be their first single

They need a hard rocker for the first single. The Blues or Better isn't that... If they choose Better I think a lot of people would turn their back against GnR. Heavy Rocker is what they need.. Hopefully its something we didnt hear yet.. Maybe IRS.. IRS as a finished product will be pretty damn good.

IRS, grows on one like fine wine. ?Most great music does, it creeps into your psyche. ?I cannot wait to here the final studio version. ?The demo is going over fairly well. ?People like it.

Better, also would be ?a good single. ?

If IRS is the single, I think its to create some buzz.  Then the 2nd single will be the one that really kicks people's asses

They need a single that will get played on mainstream radio stations, not just rock stations, so that GnR is exposed to the masses again.  What they should do is put out "The Blues" with a hard rocker on the B-side, so they have a hard rock song playing on rock stations and "The Blues" as their crossover song with a video

IRS for the pi day is not a bad idea.

And yes ARC the song rocks hard even when it's just an early demo. demo demo.

I love the vocal. :drool:

Why? No matter what song you play.. Certain stations wont play it. You dont want GnR to become Simple Plan or a shitty band like that. GnR should be GnR. The Blues could be a SINGLE but not the first. They have to grab the audience by the balls and say heres Axl Rose after a decade still kicking your mother fucking ass.. Then after the audience is ready.. Axl should break out a Epic.. Think of the songs we havent heard.. They could blow The Blues out of the water. Fuck crossing over.. Rock needs GnR.

Trust me, when the record label dumps $13,000,000 into an album they're very concerned about crossover  8)

Releasing "The Blues" as a single wouldn't cause GnR to be "A Simple Plan".  "The Blues" is a very GnR song, releasing it as a single would be a smart move because it will be played on the radio a lot, and the purpose of singles is to generate hype and sell records.  GnR has a built in fanbase that's going to buy the album no matter what

I didn't mean The Blues itself would make it that.. I just think the world is ready for Rock to step up and Axl can take the ball and run with it.. Hard rocker then The Blues or another epic when they get ready to your.. Add even more hype and fans..

The Blues would be a nice 4th or 5th single.  Great song, but fairly vanilla, kind of like Yesterdays.  It's one that will always appeal to many ears, but does not have the fresh-sexy sound needed for the 1st two or three official singles.  The 2nd song released as a single will make or break this album.

Yeah I was just using The Blues as a reference... TWAT or The General.. Or Catcher.. We haven't heard the last two.. I think one of them will be the second..

"Beware the ides of March." Caesar replies, "He is a dreamer; let us leave him. Pass."

 A good day for a release, considering the subject matter, perhaps the best.

Does it fall on a Tuesday?

Wed ne s day

Tuesdays are release day for albums.. doubt it will be released then.

Yes, you are probably right.  But it does seem more poetic to release on the Ides of March, couldn't go against of the radio grain, the little dictators might not play it... :rofl:

On the other hand, The pie day, which is also einstein's birth day, bloody happens to be a tuesday this goddamned year. :hihi: Let's celebrate "π" and something that circles.

Gonna call it my private eye! :peace:

ne will C

If a single comes out in March, I sure hope it's TWAT, not IRS. TWAT will blow people away.

Yeah I agree... But lets nto forget the unheard material.. Just think of what it could sound like.

What they need to do is release something to drag these kids away from that Crap-Hop that's popular now.

Da Vinci Code anyone?? might end up exactly the same as "you could be mine" released for a soundtrack first
maybe that was the plan way back with "oh my god" but the ball never got rollin then