Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I'm hoping in the liner notes there is not a generic "words and music by Guns n Roses like AFD"-after hearing Tommy's interview, and hearing his solo abbum, which I really liked, it will be interesting to see which members brought what to each song, and whether any members will get complete credit for a song (like "So Fine" by Duff)-I understand and I'm assuming Axl is writing all the lyrics, right? It will be interesting to see if anyone in the future tries to sue Axl (there have been so many producers, and other musicians in and out through the years)-claiming they did not get credit for a riff/idea. I remember John Corabi tried to sue Motley Crue for uncredited input on Generation Swine-he only received partial credit on one song. Just a thought.

I feel the same. It should be just like UYI, where it names the songwriters for each song, and also says who played what instruments on each song.

The liner notes will take a good week and a half to read if everyone is credited (producers, engineers, songwriters, composers, etc.)

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I guess it will be done like in UYI for the seperate songs - list the people that are actually in the band and played / contributed to a song, as well as credits to people who were overly important for a song, for example:

The Blues
(Rose)

Vocals, Piano: Rose
Lead Guitar: Finck
Rythm Guitar: Fortus
Bass: Stinson
Drums: Mantia
Keys N' Effects: Reed / Pitman
Backing Vocals: Finck, Fortus, Stinson, Reed


Chinese Democracy
(Freese)

Vocals: Rose, Finck
Lead Guitar: Finck
......
and so on

And I gues it will have two or three pages of very very little printed thank yous to the hundreds of people who contributed to the songs during all these years.


/lastroots

Hmmm.. This lead me to think... Who is gonna play piano in th studio version of this song? It could be Dizzy too...

And does this song have any backing vocals?

Interesting thread.

Especially since like Eric posted, there have been so many producers / musicians working on this project. I guess only the ones who have been involved in the final project will be credited, so it'd interesting to see if the likes of Freese, Abruzzese, Wylde, May, Buckethead & the 3 or 4 producers will be be finally credited.

.....many more to follow :hihi:

i also thought about the credits of CD a while ago.... i guess it will be very interesting to read them. one thing i`d like to know is if izzy in there...      and i?d like to find some pics and a little axl rant about what happened/ the new band/ his relationship to slash.....

He was just bitter about being out of the band.

After the mega-hit "Hooligan's Holiday", who could blame him?  :hihi:

Fortus will play a lot of Lead, probably as much as Robin. I think it will be:
Lead/Rythm guitar: Richard Fortus
Lead/rythm guitar: Robin Finck

something like 50/50.

yeah , but probably not on every song :peace:

True, Corabi was bitter about Motley Crue, but there may be some musicians/producers bitter with this project as well-I'm not sure everyone left on good terms

I never did get a credit for writing dont cry. Maybe I should sue.

My lawsuit starts now!  :peace:

you shouldn`t, because I wrote don?t cry :peace:

Hahah. Classic.

I'm gunna sue you for plagerism then.  :peace:

well, prepare for a defamation lawsuit  8)

Well now , I can see I'll have to slap you with a slander suit.

NOW DONT MAKE ME SCREAM RAPE!!!

lol

Didn't tommy call the music a 'collaborative effort?' my guess is it will say 'words and music by guns n roses.'

ok you?re the winner :hihi:      but your technicues are really disturbed. are you the little boy that stayed with michael jackson a while ago?

Axl has been sued by many people-I remember Gilby even sued GNR for royalties-I can't remember exact details-Steven sued them, Stephanie Seymore, Robert John-right or wrong, Axl has been sued many times, and probably will in the future from this project-it's the nature of the business. I could imagine the documents people had to sign who were involved on this project.

It will be more interesting to me to see if songs will be labeled like the illusion albums -  several were labeled stradlin/rose, for instance. I think the members brought their own demos on the illusion records, but that's probably not how it was done in the songwriting process for Chinese Democracy.

Yeah, I think the credits will be a little more traditional than most people expect:

'The Blues'
(Axl Rose)

Vocals: Axl Rose
Lead Guitar: Robin Finck
Rythm Guitar: Richard Fortus
Bass: Tommy Stinson
Drums: Brain
Piano/Keyboards: Dizzy Reed
Effects/Keyboards: Chris Pittman

And then depending on how many different producers are credited, they may list the producers of each individual song or guests (Strings: Marco Beltrami), etc.

I think you should change the last bit

Effect/Keyboards/Standing around doing nothing/Looking cool: Chris Pittman

I have a question.  Will ALL of Chinese Democracy be songs that were written by Axl?  For isntance, did Tommy, or Richard write anything?  I think it would be cool to here some of there stuff as well.  Axl mentions his favorites being TWAT, Better, and The Blues.  Are these all the big guns?  We now have all of them.  Now I know we might like some of Axl's other songs as well, but if other people wrote on this album, there could be two or three other greats. 

"The Blues", "Madagascar", and "TWAT" are all unmistakably Axl.  For that matter so are "IRS", "Better", and "Chinese Democracy".  He probably wrote the lyrics for all the songs on the album

Isn't Brain heavy involved in 'The General'?

I believe there is a quote somewhere of Axl saying that he is the sole lyrics writer. Anybody happens to have that quote handy? Not sure where I read it.

Dude come on your a vet here, this shit has been talked about to death ::)

All signs point to a pure collaboration not the Axl Rose show. search for "collaboration" and you'll find tons of posts about it

That doesn't mean that Axl didn't write the lyrics to all the songs

No but he said....


the answer appears to be yes, check out countless band member interviews

fortus should be lead guitar and not robin finck

pssst. Check out dead horse



 ::) newbies

Yeah i can agree with most of that.

I wonder if the cd with be released in a standard cd case or like what NIN did with [WITH_TEETH] or maybe something even better [pun not intended] like a metal case like the recent Resident Evil 4 game  :)

The leaks we've heard so far proved that Buckethead was the main musical factor in the band. He plays the better solos, and I think the best parts are quite in his style.

I wonder if his parts will all stay since it'd be quite weird that someone, who left the band 2 years ago, dominates the record. Or Axl will do everything just to make him rejoin the band?

I'm totally opposite, When GnR started doing that on the UYI I knew it was the beginning of the end, no shit I actually said that in 1991 : ok: when people take individual credits they start to get greedy, if music is by Guns N Roses then in my eyes that is a true collaboration : ok:

Or he will be credited as a guest musician.

Or not credited as a full fledged  gunner.

I really hope his solos stay on the album.....
Imagine the album to be a big success with his solos and him not being in the Band....
Just a huge success and him being the solo underground artist he is...
His cult status will elevate to the maximum...

The credits will probably be like this

alll songs written by Axl Roses and those other guys :hihi:I'm just joking around :peace:

for instance , I think Brian May played lead guitar in the Blues, i hope he is credited!!  :love:


Maybe somethin like this...


Brian, thanks for the "inspiring " guitar solo, We Love you!    ;D