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Title: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Walk on February 17, 2006, 08:51:23 PM
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2006-02/15/article04.shtml

Think of how many great bands have come from Norway, like Burzum, Darkthrone, Satyricon, Gorgoroth, Borknagar, Carpathian Forest, Immortal, do I have to go on!?  :rant: "Blasphemy" is a crime in Norway, and black metal in inherently blasphemous. Norway is going to be ruled by fanatics soon if they don't realize how important free speech is. They have destroyed perhaps the most important scene in music of the last 20 years. It was in decline, admittedly, but now it has almost no chance of coming back.

This is just terrible. The freedom to enjoy music is a fundamental human right. I think we're going to have to get used to a lot more bands like Hoobastank, Incubus (the pop band, not the old death metal band), and whatever corporate bands that are approved by the state. The sad thing is, some people enjoy them.  :rant:  :rant:

If Axl doesn't get off his ass soon, talking about Chinese democracy will be declared illegal and his album permanently banned. Make and enjoy music while you still can. You could lose that right any time these days.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Skeletor on February 18, 2006, 06:15:40 AM
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2006-02/15/article04.shtml

I think you pasted the wrong link here.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: grendood on February 18, 2006, 06:36:45 AM
Great news.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Izzy on February 18, 2006, 06:09:56 PM
Great news.

Indeed, thats made my day, now if it was banned everywhere else too.....


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Butch Français on February 18, 2006, 07:00:48 PM
Great news.

hell yes! for once Im glad to live in Norway! :hihi:


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Walk on February 18, 2006, 07:40:57 PM
I think you pasted the wrong link here.

"The Norwegian delegation assured the renowned scholar that Article 135-A of the Norwegian Penal Code orders a maximum penalty of three years in jail for publishing articles mocking religions or ethnic groups."

Sounds like a ban on black metal to me. No self-respecting black metal band lacks blasphemous publications. Look at all the works Burzum has.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 19, 2006, 11:58:47 AM
I think you pasted the wrong link here.

"The Norwegian delegation assured the renowned scholar that Article 135-A of the Norwegian Penal Code orders a maximum penalty of three years in jail for publishing articles mocking religions or ethnic groups."

Sounds like a ban on black metal to me. No self-respecting black metal band lacks blasphemous publications. Look at all the works Burzum has.

black metal sucks ass bigtime. I'm glad. Their lyrics are stupid let alone their actual sound.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: BA on February 19, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
black metal the best music scene in norway for twenty years?
i feel sorry for you guys and i thought britain had it bad.

maybe the world should learn from norway and ban it everywwhere,i would rather listen to britbey.so some good news of some sort today atleast.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Axls Locomotive on February 19, 2006, 02:45:41 PM
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2006-02/15/article04.shtml
They have destroyed perhaps the most important scene in music of the last 20 years. It was in decline, admittedly, but now it has almost no chance of coming back.

i guess all those 12 black metal fans will have to find something else to buy...

of course the bands could always emigrate to somewhere more forgiving of this "music"...i suggest the barren wastelands of outer mongolia :hihi:


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: BA on February 19, 2006, 03:18:34 PM
haha.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Walk on February 19, 2006, 03:27:27 PM
(http://signs-of-the-times.org/images/gorgoroth.jpg)
(http://home.online.no/~jmyksvol/gallery/old/old_07.jpg)
(http://www.metal-extreme.com/images/bands/immortal.jpg)

You're all poseurs.  ;D


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Jim on February 19, 2006, 03:36:27 PM
I wish my dad dressed like that.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: plasmabeam on February 19, 2006, 05:49:34 PM
Great news.

Indeed, thats made my day, now if it was banned everywhere else too.....

Damn straight.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 20, 2006, 06:42:47 AM
I think you pasted the wrong link here.

"The Norwegian delegation assured the renowned scholar that Article 135-A of the Norwegian Penal Code orders a maximum penalty of three years in jail for publishing articles mocking religions or ethnic groups."

Sounds like a ban on black metal to me. No self-respecting black metal band lacks blasphemous publications. Look at all the works Burzum has.

and you respect blasphemy?


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Danny Top Hat on February 20, 2006, 06:48:07 AM
Oh don't be like that.  Blasphemy is fun. :yes:


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Skeletor on February 20, 2006, 06:54:55 AM
I wish stupid people were banned... everywhere! :D


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Butch Français on February 20, 2006, 11:11:48 AM
hahhah those pictures are great. why are they carrying antennas around?


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Captain P?l on February 20, 2006, 01:33:34 PM
the guy on the left has stolen a road direction sign and sharpened the egdes on it...

i just fail to see hwo this image is cool.... the nails are just in the way...

oh well....


but banning a music genre is too harsh... what the hell, cant people do what they want?


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Butch Français on February 20, 2006, 03:20:34 PM
the guy on the left has stolen a road direction sign and sharpened the egdes on it...

i just fail to see hwo this image is cool.... the nails are just in the way...

oh well....


but banning a music genre is too harsh... what the hell, cant people do what they want?

it depends what people want.
some people are in jail for doing what they want, lol.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Axls Locomotive on February 20, 2006, 03:41:55 PM
the guy on the left has stolen a road direction sign and sharpened the egdes on it...

i just fail to see hwo this image is cool.... the nails are just in the way...

oh well....


but banning a music genre is too harsh... what the hell, cant people do what they want?

the majority always has the last word...no you cant...please return your black metal cds so they can be incinerated :crying:


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 20, 2006, 04:34:52 PM
Did they actually say they were going to ban black metal?


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Jim on February 21, 2006, 02:20:23 PM
Did they actually say they were going to ban black metal?

Not as far as I could read, but then I again I didn't read the article...

Curiosity got the best of me, I have to ask,

They have destroyed perhaps the most important scene in music of the last 20 years.

why, exactly?


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Walk on February 21, 2006, 11:33:58 PM
why, exactly?

It's a new genre of music with a dangerous new worldview. The authorities don't like it. Unlike the latest fads (99% of rap), it has an intellectual side as well, which makes it even more dangerous. Black metal mocks all religions, and black metal fans aren't afraid of self-parody, either. This amount of sophistication makes people unaccustomed to it nervous and reactionary.

The number of poseurs in the scene has been bad, but when the laws are up against it, there's little hope. Very few bands have gone through with making music when they could be imprisoned for it.

The law mentions "publishing articles", but this could probably mean anything in Norway. It probably includes lyrical notes that come with the CD, since black metal is indecipherable without them.  ;) It probably includes underground magazines that help keep the scene together. Promotions and advertizements deemed "offensive" could also be shut down. This law is basically an attack on free music. All because of a bunch of cartoons...


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: R4tfink on February 22, 2006, 01:37:40 PM
I wish my dad dressed like that.

Why would you want your dad to dress exactly like you?  ;)


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Jim on February 22, 2006, 01:44:56 PM
So we would match, duh.

Seriously though, those guys give me nightmares...


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 22, 2006, 02:33:40 PM
Why do they mock? Do they have no respect?


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: erose on February 22, 2006, 07:17:56 PM
i'm not really into black metal, but i highly doubht that it will be banned in any way... they might be sensored on tv and shit like that, but if you want to buy records that contain blasphemy i think a warning sticker will be the only rule.

Norway really appreciated it's freedom of speach very much and the debate has just been up hence the cartoon controversy.

the blasphemy act is from like 1930 and has never been used, it's a so called sleeping act, more like a guide line, i think there might be a court case about this soon tho because some muslims have taken the editor of the paper who printed the muhammed cartoons to court... it's going to be interesting to see what the results will be...


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 23, 2006, 04:41:27 PM
i'm not really into black metal, but i highly doubht that it will be banned in any way... they might be sensored on tv and shit like that, but if you want to buy records that contain blasphemy i think a warning sticker will be the only rule.

Norway really appreciated it's freedom of speach very much and the debate has just been up hence the cartoon controversy.

the blasphemy act is from like 1930 and has never been used, it's a so called sleeping act, more like a guide line, i think there might be a court case about this soon tho because some muslims have taken the editor of the paper who printed the muhammed cartoons to court... it's going to be interesting to see what the results will be...

it will


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: erose on February 23, 2006, 07:12:53 PM
i'm not really into black metal, but i highly doubht that it will be banned in any way... they might be sensored on tv and shit like that, but if you want to buy records that contain blasphemy i think a warning sticker will be the only rule.

Norway really appreciated it's freedom of speach very much and the debate has just been up hence the cartoon controversy.

the blasphemy act is from like 1930 and has never been used, it's a so called sleeping act, more like a guide line, i think there might be a court case about this soon tho because some muslims have taken the editor of the paper who printed the muhammed cartoons to court... it's going to be interesting to see what the results will be...

it will

what will? black metal banned? why then? explain please...


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 24, 2006, 12:51:13 PM
i'm not really into black metal, but i highly doubht that it will be banned in any way... they might be sensored on tv and shit like that, but if you want to buy records that contain blasphemy i think a warning sticker will be the only rule.

Norway really appreciated it's freedom of speach very much and the debate has just been up hence the cartoon controversy.

the blasphemy act is from like 1930 and has never been used, it's a so called sleeping act, more like a guide line, i think there might be a court case about this soon tho because some muslims have taken the editor of the paper who printed the muhammed cartoons to court... it's going to be interesting to see what the results will be...

it will

what will? black metal banned? why then? explain please...

it will be interesting to see the results i meant


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: erose on February 24, 2006, 03:33:51 PM
i'm not really into black metal, but i highly doubht that it will be banned in any way... they might be sensored on tv and shit like that, but if you want to buy records that contain blasphemy i think a warning sticker will be the only rule.

Norway really appreciated it's freedom of speach very much and the debate has just been up hence the cartoon controversy.

the blasphemy act is from like 1930 and has never been used, it's a so called sleeping act, more like a guide line, i think there might be a court case about this soon tho because some muslims have taken the editor of the paper who printed the muhammed cartoons to court... it's going to be interesting to see what the results will be...

it will

what will? black metal banned? why then? explain please...

it will be interesting to see the results i meant

totaly agree!

I mean, when you're so fucking stupid that you print such blasphemy you defenetly desreve a kick in the nuts, but then again freedom of speach... where does the line go?? so yes, defenetly very interesting!


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Danny Top Hat on February 25, 2006, 06:43:26 AM
Oh, those cartoon crossed the line big time.? Seeing as Muslims believe that you shouldn't draw Mohammed under any circumstances, printing a cartoon of him with a bomb on his head is deliberately provocative and, more to the point, just fucking racist.? Not that the way the Muslim community reacted did much to quell the stereotype.? They should have gone straight to court from the beginning.

Black metal?  I don't like it at all but it certainly shouldn't be banned.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 25, 2006, 10:37:42 AM
Oh, those cartoon crossed the line big time.? Seeing as Muslims believe that you shouldn't draw Mohammed under any circumstances, printing a cartoon of him with a bomb on his head is deliberately provocative and, more to the point, just fucking racist.? Not that the way the Muslim community reacted did much to quell the stereotype.? They should have gone straight to court from the beginning.

Black metal?? I don't like it at all but it certainly shouldn't be banned.

I agree. Being a Muslim myself, I believe Prophet Muhammad, if he found out would go to all the editors and try and prove he's a nice guy and make em feel guilty and if they didnt stop, maybe he'd be a bit more physical WITH ONLY THOSE INVOLVED


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Danny Top Hat on February 25, 2006, 12:53:17 PM
Not McDonalds then?


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: BA on February 25, 2006, 01:47:50 PM
those cartoons may have crossed the line.but it was so blown out of proportion.
i am a christian and everyday in a so called christian country i hear the bible,jesus and whatever else totally ridiculed by all sorts of people.on the radio,tv.everywhere.
and do you know what?i laugh it off,it saddens me very much and sometimes makes my blood boil.but what better do these people know?
however if they said the same things about islam,buddhism or wahetever they would be in big trouble.especially if it offends muslims.

get over it for goodness sake i only saw the cartoons cos of all the fuss that was kiced up about it.

probably incidently kicked up by the same group of small minded people who stand in london preaching hatred to the country that harbours them,and inciting hatred and violence.
but its a free country they say.what about freedom of speech?
exactrly what about freedom of speech or does that only count for certain people.

pathetic.



Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 25, 2006, 03:10:08 PM
those cartoons may have crossed the line.but it was so blown out of proportion.
i am a christian and everyday in a so called christian country i hear the bible,jesus and whatever else totally ridiculed by all sorts of people.on the radio,tv.everywhere.
and do you know what?i laugh it off,it saddens me very much and sometimes makes my blood boil.but what better do these people know?
however if they said the same things about islam,buddhism or wahetever they would be in big trouble.especially if it offends muslims.

get over it for goodness sake i only saw the cartoons cos of all the fuss that was kiced up about it.

probably incidently kicked up by the same group of small minded people who stand in london preaching hatred to the country that harbours them,and inciting hatred and violence.
but its a free country they say.what about freedom of speech?
exactrly what about freedom of speech or does that only count for certain people.

pathetic.



no offence but i dont think you should laugh it off. I think you should do things about it NOT involving blowing building and stuff. I feel annoyed that Algerian Muslims torched christian businesses when most of the protesters outside the danish embassy in Cairo werent even muslims. they were local christians. Thirdly, this is how Hitler began reigning. He printed offensive jewish cartoons. they were offended, people thought it was a joke. Few years l8er...of the concentration camps. I dont like it when people offend jesus as Jesus was a prophet of islam mind u.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: BA on February 26, 2006, 06:05:17 PM
you know what,i know muslims who are really nice people,clearly there are radicals of every creed,religion nd colour.obviously i dont agree with the same fundamentals as you but we both have common interests,i believe in mohammad,and i agree you sshouldnt laugh it off but sometims there is no other choice obviously i dont find it at all funny,but theway things are you cannot say anything without being put in a box.i just wish we could all get along.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sakib on February 27, 2006, 07:31:18 AM
you know what,i know muslims who are really nice people,clearly there are radicals of every creed,religion nd colour.obviously i dont agree with the same fundamentals as you but we both have common interests,i believe in mohammad,and i agree you sshouldnt laugh it off but sometims there is no other choice obviously i dont find it at all funny,but theway things are you cannot say anything without being put in a box.i just wish we could all get along.

so do i. thank god for the Muslim and Christian forum Association (summat like that). I only heard about it during the peaceful protesting in Trafalgar square.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sephiroth on June 10, 2006, 10:47:02 AM
Topic title is misleading. Black metal isn't actually banned here


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: CAFC Nick on June 10, 2006, 07:58:40 PM
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2006-02/15/article04.shtml

Think of how many great bands have come from Norway, like Burzum, Darkthrone, Satyricon, Gorgoroth, Borknagar, Carpathian Forest, Immortal, do I have to go on!?? :rant: "Blasphemy" is a crime in Norway, and black metal in inherently blasphemous. Norway is going to be ruled by fanatics soon if they don't realize how important free speech is. They have destroyed perhaps the most important scene in music of the last 20 years. It was in decline, admittedly, but now it has almost no chance of coming back.

This is just terrible. The freedom to enjoy music is a fundamental human right. I think we're going to have to get used to a lot more bands like Hoobastank, Incubus (the pop band, not the old death metal band), and whatever corporate bands that are approved by the state. The sad thing is, some people enjoy them.? :rant:? :rant:

If Axl doesn't get off his ass soon, talking about Chinese democracy will be declared illegal and his album permanently banned. Make and enjoy music while you still can. You could lose that right any time these days.

Lol sorry but that made me laugh...although I can't tell if you're being serious or not  :nervous:


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Captain P?l on June 10, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
he is wery much serious... those are the biggest black metal bands around.... or, well, the best anyway.

im not into that music, but i have friends that love em and those names are HUGE in that way.


hell, bands in japan even thought themselfes norwegian just for playing black metal and learning their lyrics...


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: DMJ on June 11, 2006, 07:32:16 AM
if u cant sing for shit, and u play very fast u should start a black metal band :hihi:

shittest music ever, in fact most of the scandinavian metal scene is pretty awefull, they sound like cover bands of 80s american and uk bands


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Skeletor on June 11, 2006, 04:12:02 PM
in fact most of the scandinavian metal scene is pretty awefull, they sound like cover bands of 80s american and uk bands

No way, the Scandinavian metal scene is simply the finest in the world, and bands like Pain of Salvation, Arcturus, Opeth, Winds, Ulver, and Finntroll even, provide unique and original metal that borrow nothing from American and/or UK bands (actually it's the other way around, the American band Agalloch e.g. has been hugely influenced by several Norwegian bands). So there :P


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Bobby Bloodfeast on June 13, 2006, 03:37:56 PM
I think it's horrible to take away music, a creative force that induces passion amongst so many. Granted I'm not a fan, I think the whole thing is kinda Spinal Tap on 12 but imagine if Rock n Roll woulda been outlawed here in the states, where would any of us be now? Thank God for Elvis.


Title: Re: Black Metal BANNED In Norway
Post by: Sephiroth on June 19, 2006, 08:09:50 AM
for the last time..black metal is NOT BANNED in Norway