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Title: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: SonofAGun on February 17, 2006, 11:17:09 AM
http://www.radioveronica.nl/index.aspx?FilterId=975&ChapterId=1318&ContentId=384596&relatedcontentID=167720

Its in Dutch. Another forum translated this as :

"The DJ said that Axl Rose wasn't very happy with it (the leaks) but Axl said that the problem will be solved at the end of March, then the album is in stores"



Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Nytunz on February 17, 2006, 11:18:03 AM
what the fuck? ?

This cant be true..


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: //JK75 on February 17, 2006, 11:20:43 AM
what the fuck? ?

This cant be true..

why not ?


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: killingvector on February 17, 2006, 11:21:02 AM
Axl apparently has moved to Holland. ???


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Origen on February 17, 2006, 11:21:58 AM
what the fuck? ?

This cant be true..

why not ?

Exactly why not.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 17, 2006, 11:23:16 AM
axl was in da club before the leaks wasnt he ?
or maybe was he talking about the first IRS leaks.

i mean, i'd be happy to get the cd in march, but what about marketing and all ! such a waste, this could have been great  ..... what ever


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on February 17, 2006, 11:23:24 AM
Same ole for me...I don't believe anything unless it's official.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: zombux on February 17, 2006, 11:23:46 AM
what the... :o


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 17, 2006, 11:24:10 AM
what the fuck? ?

This cant be true..

Agreed. ?Why would a dutch radio station get info such as this?


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Howard2k on February 17, 2006, 11:24:46 AM
Some people are trying to confirm it.

Perhaps someone can call the station?


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Nytunz on February 17, 2006, 11:24:55 AM
Because i dont understand why he should be in contact with a Dutch radio station!

But damn who knows! I think the last few days has been to waird to be true anyway!

"and by the way" i replyed as a "reaction" not as "fact.." ?


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: SonofAGun on February 17, 2006, 11:25:11 AM
what the fuck? ?

This cant be true..

Agreed.  Why would a dutch radio station get info such as this?


Maybe they called him and he took the call?


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: badapple81 on February 17, 2006, 11:25:26 AM
axl was in da club before the leaks wasnt he ?
or maybe was he talking about the first IRS leaks.

i mean, i'd be happy to get the cd in march, but what about marketing and all ! such a waste, this could have been great? ..... what ever

It's only just over mid Feb now.. plenty of time for marketing. Anyway we may just get a single or soundtrack song or something around this time period with the album more toward the US summer.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: badapple81 on February 17, 2006, 11:26:52 AM
what the fuck? ?

This cant be true..

Agreed.? Why would a dutch radio station get info such as this?


Maybe they called him and he took the call?

If only it was that easy..

Ah well.. you never know.



Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Nightfall on February 17, 2006, 11:29:55 AM
Nieuwe Guns n' Roses lekt uit

Twee nieuwe Guns n' Roses-nummers zijn momenteel te downloaden via het internet.

Het gaat om het nummer 'Better', waarvan een videoclip circuleert en de track 'I.R.S.', die al in 2003 werd geschreven en toen al in het bezit kwam van de Amerikaanse deejay Eddie Trunk.

Zanger Axl Rose is er niet blij mee, maar zegt, dat het probleem eind maart is opgelost. Dan ligt het nieuwe album van de heren namelijk gewoon in de winkel.


Translation:
2 new GN'R songs are available on the i-net.
The songs are called 'Better" (of which a VIDEOclip is circulating) adn the track 'I.R.S.', which was written in 2003 and was already played on the air by american DJ Eddie Trunk.

Singer Axl Rose isn't happy with this, but says, that the problem is fixed at the end of march. Because then the new album will be available in stores.

__________________________________________________

So to say the least...they have just been mixing all the interviews/rumours to this nice fantasy story.

i really would like to get my hands on that videoclip of better ;)


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 17, 2006, 11:30:03 AM
what the fuck? ?

This cant be true..

Agreed.? Why would a dutch radio station get info such as this?


Maybe they called him and he took the call?

Riiiiight.... ;D


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: WARose on February 17, 2006, 11:31:43 AM
i`m pretty sure this is pure misinterpretation and misinformation.......


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Howard2k on February 17, 2006, 11:31:59 AM
axl was in da club before the leaks wasnt he ?
or maybe was he talking about the first IRS leaks.

i mean, i'd be happy to get the cd in march, but what about marketing and all ! such a waste, this could have been great? ..... what ever

It's only just over mid Feb now.. plenty of time for marketing. Anyway we may just get a single or soundtrack song or something around this time period with the album more toward the US summer.


I don't think so. ?Even if the CD is ready and is "gold" they still need to go through the production process, distrubution process etc. ? The is no way right now for distributors to order the CD either. ?There's still quite a bit of work. ?I'd love to be wrong and I'd love to see Chi Dem in March, but I just don't see it somehow.



Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: badapple81 on February 17, 2006, 11:32:17 AM
I think so too.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: badapple81 on February 17, 2006, 11:33:24 AM
axl was in da club before the leaks wasnt he ?
or maybe was he talking about the first IRS leaks.

i mean, i'd be happy to get the cd in march, but what about marketing and all ! such a waste, this could have been great? ..... what ever

It's only just over mid Feb now.. plenty of time for marketing. Anyway we may just get a single or soundtrack song or something around this time period with the album more toward the US summer.

That's why I think we'll hear perhaps a single or soundtrack song around this period, with the album later on towards the US summer.


I don't think so. ?Even if the CD is ready and is "gold" they still need to go through the production process, distrubution process etc. ? The is no way right now for distributors to order the CD either. ?There's still quite a bit of work. ?I'd love to be wrong and I'd love to see Chi Dem in March, but I just don't see it somehow.




Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: godiva on February 17, 2006, 11:33:52 AM
My guess is that the station got the information off the internet. I tried to contact them. In the meantime, since I am an English teacher and I am Dutch, let me translate the article for you:

Nieuwe Guns n' Roses lekt uit
New GNR leaks

Veronica (name of station)
Twee nieuwe Guns n' Roses-nummers zijn momenteel te downloaden via het internet.
Two new gnr songs can be downloaded off the internet right now.

Het gaat om het nummer 'Better', waarvan een videoclip circuleert en de track 'I.R.S.', die al in 2003 werd geschreven en toen al in het bezit kwam van de Amerikaanse deejay Eddie Trunk.
It concerns the track 'Better' of which a video clip (yes, that is what it says!) is circulating and the track "IRS', which was written in 2003 and came into possession of the American DJ Eddie Trunk. (I guess they assume it is the same recording, but I don't quite agree with that theory)

Zanger Axl Rose is er niet blij mee, maar zegt, dat het probleem eind maart is opgelost. Dan ligt het nieuwe album van de heren namelijk gewoon in de winkel.
Singer Axl Rose isn't pleased with this, but says that the problem would be solved at the end of March. That's when the new album of the gentlemen (plural) will be for sale in stores.

End of article. Very sloppy translation, but I guess you can understand. Doesn't state a source.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: The Dog on February 17, 2006, 11:34:33 AM
Be great if it happens, but personally I don't think its legit.  Reporters seem to be taking a lot of liberties with quotes and information concerning CD.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: long_live_freddie on February 17, 2006, 11:34:53 AM
Slash was telling the truth? :o


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: mikegiuliana on February 17, 2006, 11:35:12 AM
slash was right he knew ;D


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: long_live_freddie on February 17, 2006, 11:40:03 AM
Slash is my hero. HE knew all along. Of course, banking on this story being true. :smoking:


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on February 17, 2006, 11:41:50 AM
Although former Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash told a Philadelphia radio station last week that he heard a March release date was on tap for the long-delayed Gn'R album, the band's management has told "people" that no release date has been set. Slash said that he had learned about the March date from sources inside the Guns camp. A management spokesperson said that the new album, titled Chinese Democracy, "is coming," but its official arrival date had not at that timebeen "officially" determined, It will however be announced very soon and has now been "officially" determined. I am not saying Slash was wrong, just very-unofficial, if you get what I am saying.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: killingvector on February 17, 2006, 11:44:29 AM
Axl just a few weeks ago said that 26/32 songs were not done.

Considering the geologic timescale on which this band operates, I doubt very strongly that March could ever be feasible.

I hope they surprise me. I really do.

But I do think now that the promotion for this album has to be very short and  very furious.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: WARose on February 17, 2006, 11:45:13 AM
Although former Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash told a Philadelphia radio station last week that he heard a March release date was on tap for the long-delayed Gn'R album, the band's management has told "people" that no release date has been set. Slash said that he had learned about the March date from sources inside the Guns camp. A management spokesperson said that the new album, titled Chinese Democracy, "is coming," but its official arrival date had not at that timebeen "officially" determined, It will however be announced very soon and has now been "officially" determined. I am not saying Slash was wrong, just very-unofficial, if you get what I am saying.


where did you get his from??


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: chineseblues on February 17, 2006, 11:46:14 AM
Right now promotion wouldnt need to be very big, as there is a HUGE buzz surrounding guns. If Axl came out today and said the album was going to be released on such and such a day the buzz would grow 10 fold.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: mikegiuliana on February 17, 2006, 11:46:52 AM
Axl just a few weeks ago said that 26/32 songs were not done.

Considering the geologic timescale on which this band operates, I doubt very strongly that March could ever be feasible.

I hope they surprise me. I really do.

But I do think now that the promotion for this album has to be very short and? very furious.

Unless it was a double album they only need half that amount or even less for one solid album


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Christos AG on February 17, 2006, 11:47:08 AM


It's only just over mid Feb now.. plenty of time for marketing. Anyway we may just get a single or soundtrack song or something around this time period with the album more toward the US summer.

OH MY GOD, you have some kind of special summer in the US? Damn, why did I come in the middle of the winter...  :hihi:


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on February 17, 2006, 11:48:04 AM
Right now promotion wouldnt need to be very big, as there is a HUGE buzz surrounding guns. If Axl came out today and said the album was going to be released on such and such a day the buzz would grow 10 fold.

You are in the middle of all the promotion they need.? :P Web-Blogs, Radio Stations, News Networks, Message Boards. Everyone is talking about Gn'R.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: chineseblues on February 17, 2006, 11:51:07 AM
Right now promotion wouldnt need to be very big, as there is a HUGE buzz surrounding guns. If Axl came out today and said the album was going to be released on such and such a day the buzz would grow 10 fold.

You are in the middle of all the promotion they need.  :P Web-Blogs, Radio Stations, News Networks, Message Boards. Everyone is talking about Gn'R.

thats what i meant.....


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: killingvector on February 17, 2006, 11:51:25 AM
Right now promotion wouldnt need to be very big, as there is a HUGE buzz surrounding guns. If Axl came out today and said the album was going to be released on such and such a day the buzz would grow 10 fold.

Also they can't risk anymore leaks.

We have a taste of CD now. They need some live performances and perhaps someone to interview Axl.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Nytunz on February 17, 2006, 11:52:55 AM
Right now promotion wouldnt need to be very big, as there is a HUGE buzz surrounding guns. If Axl came out today and said the album was going to be released on such and such a day the buzz would grow 10 fold.

You are in the middle of all the promotion they need.? :P Web-Blogs, Radio Stations, News Networks, Message Boards. Everyone is talking about Gn'R.

that is true.. but ?why dont they start teasing with a new website.. i always hoped for a Official GNR website, "THAT WORKS". The gnronlie thing is a joke..
and there is a videoclip from better? where does that source come from?


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Markus Asraelius on February 17, 2006, 11:58:51 AM
I could see cd coming out in march if it was late, late march.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: godiva on February 17, 2006, 11:59:49 AM
I think they mis-translated the word 'clip' (not whole song) with video clip. So, they didn't do their homework. Very unreliable source, BTW. Veronica is all right, but Shownews gets their stories from the gutter, where most of these stories should stay IMO.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Woooo! on February 17, 2006, 12:16:35 PM
Who cares. We will get it when we get it. I seriously doubt a radio station in Holland got an interview with Axl Rose. It doesn't make sense although we clearly know nothing of his goings on.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: 0001001 on February 17, 2006, 12:18:43 PM
Right now promotion wouldnt need to be very big, as there is a HUGE buzz surrounding guns. If Axl came out today and said the album was going to be released on such and such a day the buzz would grow 10 fold.

You are in the middle of all the promotion they need.  :P Web-Blogs, Radio Stations, News Networks, Message Boards. Everyone is talking about Gn'R.

thats what i meant.....

Hm,
I think the buzz isn't as huge as you think.
The problem is to be objective. Of course we all know about the leaks and every radiostation who has some gnr news.
But the common people don't know. I have asked some friends of mine, who even like gnr, and they haven't heard anything about the leaks.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 17, 2006, 12:19:45 PM
It doesn't make sense
If you would have told me last month that Axl would play Chinese Democracy at a strip club in the wee hours of the morning, I would have said it didnt make sense. Nothing makes sense in the GNR world.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Sandinista on February 17, 2006, 12:20:54 PM
It doesn't make sense
If you would have told me last month that Axl would play Chinese Democracy at a strip club in the wee hours of the morning, I would have said it didnt make sense. Nothing makes sense in the GNR world.
If you told me that today I'd say it doesn't make sense.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: chineseblues on February 17, 2006, 12:21:41 PM
Right now promotion wouldnt need to be very big, as there is a HUGE buzz surrounding guns. If Axl came out today and said the album was going to be released on such and such a day the buzz would grow 10 fold.

You are in the middle of all the promotion they need.  :P Web-Blogs, Radio Stations, News Networks, Message Boards. Everyone is talking about Gn'R.

thats what i meant.....

Hm,
I think the buzz isn't as huge as you think.
The problem is to be objective. Of course we all know about the leaks and every radiostation who has some gnr news.
But the common people don't know. I have asked some friends of mine, who even like gnr, and they haven't heard anything about the leaks.

Alot of internet sites (non gnr sites) are reporting about it and its being played on radio startions to millions of people. I would say thats some damn big promotion/buzz going on there....


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Sandinista on February 17, 2006, 12:23:14 PM
What kinda stuff happened right before the illusions, official statement or something?
They recorded an album.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Markus Asraelius on February 17, 2006, 12:23:38 PM
Yeah, just because you're friends are g'nr fans doesn't mean that they look up at the internet. Just wait for the fire to spread.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: McGann on February 17, 2006, 12:30:14 PM
What kinda stuff happened right before the illusions, official statement or something?

Release date announced
About thirty days or so
Before the street date.

Splash

/Mike


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: The Dog on February 17, 2006, 12:33:38 PM
What kinda stuff happened right before the illusions, official statement or something?

Release date announced
About thirty days or so
Before the street date.

Splash

/Mike

I remember they also announced the premiere date/time for the YCBM video on MTV.  Never forget watching that with my VCR ready thinking "wow, they are BACK!!!"


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: NickNasty on February 17, 2006, 12:34:42 PM
I would hate to think anyone would put words into axl's mouth

BUT probably this radio station heard the leaks, pieced it together with slash's statement about march being the release month, and then reported that axl said it.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 17, 2006, 12:48:18 PM
I could see cd coming out in march if it was late, late march.

March..............2009


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Grouse on February 17, 2006, 12:49:24 PM
Hmmm I'll give veronica(The radiostation)a call tomorrow :)


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: 0001001 on February 17, 2006, 12:51:07 PM
Alot of internet sites (non gnr sites) are reporting about it and its being played on radio startions to millions of people. I would say thats some damn big promotion/buzz going on there....

In my opinion they need much more promotion if cd is on it's way.
Think of any HUGE bands today like U2. I think the whole world knew when HTDAAB was going to be released.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Colt 1911 on February 17, 2006, 12:55:25 PM
coolt i hope its not a damn joke.


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: remcognr on February 18, 2006, 08:14:58 PM
wow... ok, this is getting a little out of hand. :-)

I have had several email contacts with this radio dj from Veronica. (this started when the new Axl pics -with the goatee- showed up) I've showed him those pics, this forum & website. He was pretty cool about it all, and thanked me on national radio and even named www.heretodaygonetohell.com. So, the day after IRS & Better were leaked, I told him about it, and that they were floating around. I used the word 'clip', but in Dutch that mainly means "videoclip'. My mistake, but I was reading the word in English context everywhere... So, it's very probable they didn't have the (audio) clips yet by the time they published this article on their site. (Since they believed a videoclip was leaked, instead of the audio file)
I also told him about SLASH's remarks on the release of CD in March. He probably didn't 'understand' me well, and published a slightly different story of AXL saying this... Kinda freedom of expression... :-)

Today I got an email of him saying he might wanna play it during his show. I haven't been able to listen to it the whole 2 hours, so don't know if he did yet. (I told him that it'll probably be illegal, but he wasn't convinced...) Tomorrow he's got another show, so who knows...

Anyway, hope this clears things up a bit. The source was informed by me (maybe some others as well), but "rearranged" my info a bit.

remco


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Kujo on February 18, 2006, 08:21:39 PM

March..............2009

Is that confirmed?
Who is your source?
Do you have a link?

Did I forget anything?


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: dangnr on February 18, 2006, 08:23:49 PM
Axl might just get pissed off, and go into hiding! for another 10 years


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: w.axl.rose on February 18, 2006, 08:31:55 PM
 :rofl: @ kujo


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: philspectorshotme on February 18, 2006, 08:32:51 PM
Alot of internet sites (non gnr sites) are reporting about it and its being played on radio startions to millions of people. I would say thats some damn big promotion/buzz going on there....

In my opinion they need much more promotion if cd is on it's way.
Think of any HUGE bands today like U2. I think the whole world knew when HTDAAB was going to be released.

while i dont believe for a moment that chinese democracy will see the light of day this coming march, i do think you're underestimating the power that the axl rose and guns n roses names and brand carry. u2 et al dont really need to have such a fanfare over their new album and tours, but they arent a comparison anyway. guns and axl are a unique (to say the least) case. and (though im not sure about distribution and pressing and that malarky) it would be entirely possible for them to announce a release date in a weeks time and the world to go utterly nuts.

such is the myth and power of the band, axl and this record that a buzz and attention are a split second away, and it would take very, very little to catapult them back into a prominent position in the cultural psyche and the mainstream media.



Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Kujo on February 18, 2006, 08:36:01 PM
First off, love the name philspectorshot me : ok:

second, U2's biggest promotion was the Ipod commercial with Vertigo and than SNL the weekend before the release, other than that I dont recall alot of hype. You can be sure that GnR wont be selling unreleased songs for commercials................ I hope :-\


Title: Re: Axl says problem solved by end of March?
Post by: Will on February 18, 2006, 08:58:05 PM
It's only just over mid Feb now.. plenty of time for marketing. Anyway we may just get a single or soundtrack song or something around this time period with the album more toward the US summer.

If they do have a track on the Da Vinci Code movie soundtrack, maybe we will have 1991 all over again, ? la You Could Be Mine/ T2. Man, that would be awesome. The Da Vinci Code is gonna be one of the biggest movies of 2006, and surely CD will be one of the biggest music releases this year too. The movie is coming out in may...a single in march or april?