Here Today... Gone To Hell!

i don't think any of this is coincidental:

1) slash mentions twice that CD is out in March

2) Axl has made more public appearences in the last 2 months than in the last 10 years.  pictures, listening parties, and all

3) strange things happening like HTGTH upgrading their servers without explanation and on the day before 3 demo songs are leaked onto the internet

4) being played nationally on Howard Stern

I almost think the leak was intentional by management as a way to promote CD.  I think it's coming out VERY soon (march?) and I think they're trying a different approach to promotion - i.e. using the internet and 'illegal' file sharing rather than conventional media outlets.  I think this is a very brilliant plan.

Well Merck has said to stop all links to downloads and to stop mentioning it so I don't think this was done by management. However, its good publicity for Axl and hes getting a lot of positive reviews. Of course there is a conspiracy theory.

i think its intentional. axls paranoid about it being crap so he wants early critisms to fix them.

of course merck would say that!

telling people to remove links and not talk about it only makes people want the tracks more, and creates WAY more buzz than if the links were just freely available! 

if they did this intentionally, it's brilliant.

who is this 'Merck' -  what's it look like? where's it from? is it an insider?

I'd say, just under the circumstances, it's intentional. We go so long without anything, then we get a Rolling Stone interview/article, Axl showing up at parties across the country, Slash actually promoting the album's potential release, then we get 2 songs leaked and one is played on the #1 radio talk show in the country? Something doesn't gel right...

ah. Just GnR?

No, also Iron Maiden...

Slash I think is gunna be wrong here. I dont doubt 2006 but I do indeed doubt a march release right about now.


Axl left the mansion , he had a b-day party and got out and enjoyed himself , I wouldnt look more into it then that.


Just a timing issue as far as I'm concerned. The server change was talked about days before last nights leak. The site was down and all. Timing. The GNR moons are all lined up I guess.


Only cause a board member sent them the song.


Brilliant plan? Leaking 3-4 year old demo songs that dont reflect what the finish product sounds like? Then requesting they be removed and not talked about and sending MIB's out to scare fans and brainwash them?!!  (OK , MAYBE THEY DIDNT SEND OUT MIB'S)

I think people are looking far far too far into this.

i think it's amusing/interesting that mygnr is slowing to a crawl due to the heavy traffic today, while htgth has never been faster (despite the almost 400 viewers at any moment).

good thing jarmo transferred to a faster server yesterday... or he didn't... either way, things are very smooth now.

I remember the same hype happened last April witht the IRS leak.  When the leak happened, most everyone assumed that CD would be right behind it.  I am very hopeful for a 06 release, but I'm also realistic.  This has happened before, and I'll wait for an official statement.

they didnt change servers , but merck gave them more bandwidth so they can track our disscussions. Everything we say is being logged and tracked by the MIB's ... I'm sure they are collecting IP's and home addresses right this minute ...

Be right back , theres a loud knock on my door.  :nervous:

3 demo songs? I only got 2

IRS and Better

The 3rd one is the best , TWAT .. too bad you missed it.

Newb.

good thing I have multiple addresses ;)

I have multiple personalities so they wont get all of us , erm , me.

TWAT is amazing, I think its going to be GNR's best song ever.


EDIT - WOW...STOP SENDING ME EMAILS - THIS WAS A JOKE!  TWAT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET!  :)  sheesh!

I should have just written back to people "yeah its awesome, but i can't share it! hahah)

The leak is intentional without a doubt - a studio version of a song we have already heard and half a track

Pretty obvious, but atleast they are starting the promo - the songs do good better each time i hear them...

hahahahahahahahahaha   :rofl:

I swear , do half of you guys even read the threads before posting in them?

whats the 3rd demo song?

I love this cynical jokes !!!  :hihi: very very funny   : ok:

You outta be with me when I'm drinking.  :hihi:   :beer:

The title of the thread was in question form.

He answered.

Pretty straight forward.

How anyone could think these leaks were intentional after management requesting they be removed the SECOND they FOUND OUT there WAS a leak is beyond me. BEYOND!!

*groan*

i wonder how comfortable Eddie Trunk is sitting right now.

I'm sure the GNR MIB's have paid him a visit.

Think Mr. Burns and his legion of lawyers.

Axl is Burns , Merck is smithers! hahaha

I totally agree here....this has happened before.  I don't believe a song leak has anything to do with the release.   When IRS leaked on the forums it was just a leak and nothing more...no secret conspiracy or plan for the album release.   

Exactly.  :P I guess this leak and that leak were not intentional.

However this time the sound quality is not terrible like that of the last time, they are less strict to some extent.

i was told that the so called TWAT release wasnt really GN'R

In my humble opinion, whoever had these tracks felt a little sorry for the fans when Axl played CD to some random club owners and decided to share a little of the joy with us.

When Interscope gets ready to promote and release the first Guns N' Roses studio album consisting of original material in, what is it now, 15 years? It is not going to be by leaking clips of, or demos of songs that may or may not sound like the album versions to people who are already looking for any little piece of information they can get their hand on. It's going to be a full blown media marketing campaign, attempting to reach those who need to be informed of the new GN'R, as well as everybody else. That is, unless someone in the Interscope marketing department just got fired.

Merck Mercuriadis: the highest paid director in Sanctuary earned ?1,250,000 last year:

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If his job is the same then I still prefer Doug Goldstein he really got the GnR name everywhere during the Illusion tour.

If managment were going to do a leak they would use a polished track-not demos. But perhaps with radio stations picking this up, they will be persuaded to get off their ass and speed up the promotional process for the ACTUAL finished album.

I was just talking with someone at my job and that management could have leaked this to get all the hype stirred up for GNR but ofcourse they cannot let that be known so they make all the forums pull it and say that had nothing to do with it.  But look at all the hype even if the album isn't released it still gets people talking about GNR and axl and puts GNR as at the topic of convo.   Just saying.   So I am on the fence part of me believes that maybe this is a stunt by management and then another part of me believes that someone got it and released it.   


Anyone think we will get the next part of Better?

no way that they leaked it intentionally....   keep in mind that it`s an old demo....

This whole thing seems strange to me.  I know the management is asking people not to pass these leaks around, but the whole thing is weird.  They leaked a better version of a song that was already leaked, and leaked a little over a minute of a brand new studio track that sounds great.  If the leak didn't come from inside the camp, wouldn't we have heard the full version of Better?

"people will hear music this year"

NO THEY WEREN'T. Why? Cause the Guns N' Roses Managment treats us like shit. And I dont want to hear ohhh Merch confirms or doesnt confirm rumors.. Bullshit. Anyone can do that. How about they give us what every other band in the world has... communication.

Question to those who think the leaks weren't intentional.  Why does the clip of Better sound perfect and then just cut out a minute and twenty seconds in?  If the song had fallen into unauthorized hands we would've heard the whole thing.

I.R.S was leaked in sections in April.

Exactly...I am waiting for part 2.   

But IRS was leaked as a very poor quality clip that sounded like a recording from the radio show.  The "Better" leak is high quality, mixed studio track, so it's kind of a different situation.  The "Better" clip sounds like it went directly from a CD online, while the "IRS" clip sounds like it was recorded when they played it on the radio and finally uploaded

A band would not leak music from an album like this... Someone got their hands on something they should not have had.. Thats why its leaked. If it was to promote the band.. then the news would be all over cause you bet your ass they would call them too.

What better way to circualte buzz for us Guns fans than release a demo on some message boards. Look how many freakin people are online. When was that last time this many people were logged on. I feel this was to get all of us fans back together and prepare the world for Chinese Democracy. Regardless this has been a good move for Axl. I'm still fascinated that Howard Stern gave it a good listen, for Howard to say he likes it you know it is good.

No. If they wanted to giuve us fans hope.. All they would have to do is get all the members in a room snap some photos. Or maybe a website. Or maybe some news... They wont leak anything.