Title: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Mysteron on February 16, 2006, 09:11:18 AM I think you know what I am going to say and ask :hihi:
Please can you remove all leaked files, including any links and please can you remove all mention to the leaks (to the best of your ability) And please don't whinge. Title: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 09:11:50 AM Management, so i guess Axl too, would be pleased if we stopped mentionning and giving links to the songs.
:no: Title: Re: A Request Post by: jameslofton29 on February 16, 2006, 09:13:04 AM I guess this proves the leak wasn't approved by Axl.
Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: makane on February 16, 2006, 09:13:55 AM Who in this case is "Management"?
Title: Re: A Request Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 09:14:02 AM http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=25362.0
right on Title: Re: A Request Post by: RnT on February 16, 2006, 09:14:09 AM give me a reason to why not even MENTION the leak now
Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 09:14:51 AM Who in this case is "Management"? every body at Guns n' Roses ;) .... i guess no really, i kinda feel bad for axl tho. - even if i did download the songs :( - Title: Re: A Request Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 09:15:17 AM give me a reason to why not even MENTION the leak now cause you're a fan Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Guns N Ballz on February 16, 2006, 09:15:33 AM Where'd you get this info? Why even say this if you can't say where you got it from?
Title: Re: A Request Post by: GNROSAS on February 16, 2006, 09:15:52 AM Sorry Man. This is so great to keep it hidden.....12 Years waiting and suddenly Quality music...
As sure as hell... I will mention the leaks.... Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Guns N RockMusic on February 16, 2006, 09:16:28 AM cause he's talking out of his ass?
Title: Re: A Request Post by: makane on February 16, 2006, 09:17:06 AM Hopefully there will be somekind official statement soon? I think it's impossible to not mention anything about the leaks at the moment.
Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 09:17:10 AM cause he's talking out of his ass? ? ? ? funny how a minute after i said that, mysteron posted a same topic ..... Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on February 16, 2006, 09:17:22 AM where is that quote from??
Title: Re: A Request Post by: Your Illusion on February 16, 2006, 09:18:03 AM No way.
We've been waiting since 1992 for new music. And axl said" People will hear music this year" so here it is. Title: Re: A Request Post by: 33 on February 16, 2006, 09:18:08 AM Yeh fair shout Mysteron. Leaks are fucked up! Its meant to be about hearing the real deal! Although its probably tempting for everyone to listen to them, myself included. Waiting for the real thing will be so much more satisfying when it comes out which by all accounts is going to be very soon! Shame on you people who put up links for these leaks, it ent fair on Axl, the band, the management or all the people working on the project! Mike
Title: Re: A Request Post by: RnT on February 16, 2006, 09:18:32 AM I?m a fan since 91
I?ve been tru all the shit with Axl, side by side suport the new band and have much respect of VR now, if ANYONE think that the world won?t hear those leaked songs you?ll crazy, do?sn?t matter if someone stop talking about them, is like a virus, is gone ?:hihi: Title: Re: A Request Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 09:18:55 AM Does management know where this leak originated Mysteron? Was it the Trunk CD?
Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Guns N RockMusic on February 16, 2006, 09:19:08 AM cause he's talking out of his ass? ? ? ? funny how a minute after i said that, mysteron posted a same topic ..... so you now have ties to GN'R management?? I have no doubt that Management wants these files removed, I mean they went ape shit over a shitty version of IRS.? However, until Merck sends Jarmo a cease and assist, Management hasn't said shit. Title: Re: A Request Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 09:19:22 AM i guess we can just keep it here ... but hey, who cares about gnr but us ;)
http://www.gunsnroses.us/news/article.php3?id_article=18 Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 09:19:33 AM It's done they are out there now. too late :yes:
Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 09:20:21 AM http://www.gunsnroses.us/news/article.php3?id_article=18
i dunno. it's just that, i understand what they mean. Title: Re: A Request Post by: GNROSAS on February 16, 2006, 09:20:30 AM i guess we can just keep it here ... but hey, who cares about gnr but us ;) Soon the whole world would care.... ;) Title: Re: A Request Post by: Dont Try Me on February 16, 2006, 09:21:57 AM so we gotta pretend it never happened? That's hard (awesome songs!!)
Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Nytunz on February 16, 2006, 09:21:57 AM to say the fans shall not download the songs, or send it to someone, is just like the telling a kid dont eat your candy, when you already gave it to him :hihi:
Title: Re: A Request Post by: Mateoson on February 16, 2006, 09:22:17 AM While I agree, this kind of spoils some things, for me it only made me more excited and proved Axl has his shit together.
I'm afraid it's too late. A bunch of fools emailed the irs track to radio stations last night. Title: Re: A Request Post by: makane on February 16, 2006, 09:22:50 AM Didn't some people already send these to some radio stations? (Which I think wasn't fair)
Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: 2NaFish on February 16, 2006, 09:23:08 AM Songs? What songs??
DON'T MENTION THE WAR!!! Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Elle on February 16, 2006, 09:25:44 AM :hihi:
will be interesting to see if any sort of statement comes out Title: Re: Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: erose on February 16, 2006, 09:26:09 AM DON'T MENTION THE WAR!!! :rofl: i did it once, but i think i got away with it! Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Your Illusion on February 16, 2006, 09:26:17 AM Send them to all radiostations in the world!!
The sooner cd comes out Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: dub05 on February 16, 2006, 09:27:05 AM This could delay what was due shortly???
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 09:27:31 AM You need to be extremely stupid when the band/management asks you to stop giving links and mentioning them and you keep on doing it...
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: jameslofton29 on February 16, 2006, 09:28:07 AM Mysteron, with all due respect, it isn't gonna work this time. The fanbase is united together for the first time in years. No negativity going on, and everyone sharing it with everyone. Shit, I just sent it to someone on here that I swore I would never talk to again. We're all together behing a common cause. Why does "management" seem to want the fanbase always fractured?
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: erose on February 16, 2006, 09:28:53 AM where's the quote from management? What did they say exactly?
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: blackpainter on February 16, 2006, 09:30:02 AM OK, I'll delete mine though it's very hard and maybe very late....
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Jim on February 16, 2006, 09:30:31 AM If management really cared enough to try and contain in any kind of way these demos (removing discussion of them is never going to happen though, y'know) then Axl should just release a statement. A vague release date. Something to hold onto.
Not just a slap on the wrist by management that actually holds no sway with the vast majority of people that post here. Just saying 'oh...the leak, yeah...don't listen to them. In fact, don't even talk about them. Delete everything!" is bollocks. A bit of communication with the fans wouldn't do any fucking harm. People seem to have missed the fact that, while Axl has been spotted all over the place recently, he still hasn't said anything with any substance to the fans since...Buckethead left? I don't know. Anyway, my point is that a simple 'request' phrased like that achieves nothing, and I'm sure management know it. Also, telling people to not whinge is pretty condescending to a dedicated forum that have been, in majority, very loyal. It's not showing much respect. I'm not saying fight it. The files aren't even uploaded, or linked to, here anyway. I'm just saying that management (whoever that is at the moment...) need to communicate a bit better if they expect something back. Still...Respect their wishes. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Goddamn_Electric on February 16, 2006, 09:30:51 AM Pretendnig that a song this damn good (IRS) was never in my ears...would be like a heroin junkie pretending he didnt know what a needle is.
I've been a GNR fan since Appetite was released, and I've waited patiently since 1993 for the new Guns album. I will not delete this song, and by the time anybody where to knock on my door to make me do so...I'd have 700 copies of it on cd...so needless to say, dont waste your time asking me to delete it. I'll do as asked, and not spread it, but I'll be damned if I'm getting rid of it. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Genesis on February 16, 2006, 09:31:13 AM A couple of hours too late, don't u think? It's all over the Internet by now and I've seen reports on atleast two 'news' sites...
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on February 16, 2006, 09:34:22 AM they want us to delete them even from your hd? haha,yea right. i would rather kill someone than delete those
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: alternativemonkey on February 16, 2006, 09:35:37 AM I think you know what I am going to say and ask? :hihi: Please can you remove all leaked files, including any links and please can you remove all mention to the leaks (to the best of your ability) And please don't whinge. I understand "Management's" position. However, I think they (i.e. management) owe the fans some explanation or information in exchange for our loyalty. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: RnT on February 16, 2006, 09:36:23 AM let?s make a deal
the fans won?t say anything about the leak or even send the link to enyone and the GNR camp will say something to us that we will be the only ones to know ?;D Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BP on February 16, 2006, 09:36:38 AM I spoke to Merck this morning. & he told me basically the same thing. He doesnt want anybody sharing these songs right now. Or even a mention of them lol ... ?
ok ?-BP Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on February 16, 2006, 09:37:31 AM i'm sorry, but thats just ridiculous. what's the point of that? i don't see ANY sense there
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Genesis on February 16, 2006, 09:38:25 AM I spoke to Merck this morning. & he told me basically the same thing. He doesnt want anybody sharing these songs right now. Or even a mention of them lol ... ? Maybe u should make Merck understand that they don't own the Internet... ;) Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Timothy on February 16, 2006, 09:39:22 AM This hole thing is Just too fucking funny.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: GNROSAS on February 16, 2006, 09:40:24 AM The Only Way to stop mentioning the Leaks is the Release of CD...Until That Day....Hm Well...
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 09:40:59 AM So like, if their saved to my desk top, will they dissapear :'(
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: makane on February 16, 2006, 09:41:07 AM This is like Chinese Democracy hits the shelves and Merck/Management tells you "Not to buy or look at it" sure, that'l work.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: jameslofton29 on February 16, 2006, 09:41:40 AM Its more bullshit games. God forbid the fanbase gets to enjoy themselves. They have to keep the soap opera going. If they keep fucking with us, we're not even gonna buy the album when its released. We'll just download it off Limewire. The fans can only be shit on for so long until a major backlash occurs.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: DeN on February 16, 2006, 09:43:21 AM anyway, it's good publicity, for free.
and it's just a short clip (better), so.... Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Dont Try Me on February 16, 2006, 09:45:10 AM no matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart I should have known you're crazy. How.....fitting. ;D Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: GNROSAS on February 16, 2006, 09:45:57 AM no matter what you'd pay me. Replay the part, you stole my heart I should have known you're crazy. How.....fitting.? ;D Too True... Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: nesquick on February 16, 2006, 09:48:08 AM I think the Management should spend their time to create a Guns N' Roses official website instead of giving lessons of moral to the fans "you should do this, don't mention that, erase this, delete that" etc...
Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Your Illusion on February 16, 2006, 09:49:08 AM I think the Management should spend their time to create a Guns N' Roses official website instead of giving lessons of moral to the fans "you should do this, don't mention that, erase this, delete that" etc... Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. And tell AXl to release CD Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: echrisl on February 16, 2006, 09:49:25 AM *flips management the bird*
I hope they can see this, because I'm doing it as hard as I can. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Mysteron on February 16, 2006, 09:53:14 AM Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. :hihi: Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BLS-Pride on February 16, 2006, 09:54:14 AM I would like management to know that I will listen and talk about every fucking leaked song GnR will have. I don't care anymore.. Maybe if the album would jus drop there wouldnt be these problems. So oh well.. Ima listen away.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Nytunz on February 16, 2006, 09:54:45 AM Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. :hihi: Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? i really hope they does something.. it would be a sad way to get Chinese Democracy.. a new track each 6 months.. ?:no: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Dont Try Me on February 16, 2006, 09:55:48 AM This is like telling Micheal Corleone 'not to do any business'
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: erose on February 16, 2006, 09:56:11 AM Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. :hihi: Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? i really hope they does something.. it would be a sad way to get Chinese Democracy.. a new track each 6 months.. ?:no: true true! Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 16, 2006, 09:56:47 AM lol! I can understand management's requests, but they expect us to act as if it never happened? Yeah right. Anytime we get thrown a bone, they (management) repremand us. They could release a statement saying "hey, we're really glad you like what you heard, and we promise that both of those songs will be on the album, but we'd really appreciate it if you kinda let this die down...", something to that effect, I'd be 110% behind them. No, they just have to fuss. Meh...
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 09:56:57 AM Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. :hihi: Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? Better? ;D Seriously, the problem is that it's kinda too late, this thing has exploded... I don't think we can do much about it now, except from not posting links to the songs... like we've been doing here since the beggining. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: GNROSAS on February 16, 2006, 09:58:06 AM Quote Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? I would have felt great from the response....You can't stop passion.... The only way to stop a certain passion is to provide an even greater one ;) Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Howard2k on February 16, 2006, 09:58:47 AM Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. :hihi: Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? i really hope they does something.. it would be a sad way to get Chinese Democracy.. a new track each 6 months.. ?:no: But better than not at all. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: nesquick on February 16, 2006, 10:00:03 AM Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. :hihi: Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? Anyway for the demos, it's too late. It's all over the internet. It will probably be on e-mule or Kazaa in a few days. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 16, 2006, 10:00:29 AM I'm curious as to how management feels about us sharing the other new songs (Chinese Democracy, The Blues, etc.). I don't really see a difference, other than 1r5 and b3++3r being demos...
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: jameslofton29 on February 16, 2006, 10:03:42 AM ? How would you feel if you were the artist? I would be happy that my fanbase is united and showing full support. I would be glad that they are enjoying a taste of something they have waited 13 years for.This whole fucking album needs to leak. Maybe then they will stop playing these fucking games. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Mysteron on February 16, 2006, 10:06:13 AM Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. :hihi: Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? Better?? ;D Seriously, the problem is that it's kinda too late, this thing has exploded... I don't think we can do much about it now, except from not posting links to the songs... like we've been doing here since the beggining. I know that. Sanctuary are just doing their job, that's all. We all have jobs to do Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Timothy on February 16, 2006, 10:08:52 AM ? How would you feel if you were the artist? I would be happy that my fanbase is united and showing full support. I would be glad that they are enjoying a taste of something they have waited 13 years for.This whole fucking album needs to leak. Maybe then they will stop playing these fucking games. I agree with you here . every time it seems you hear from the GN"R camp it's always some bullshit . Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: RnT on February 16, 2006, 10:09:00 AM Mysteron, do you think this leak will hinder in some way the CD Album?
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Guns N RockMusic on February 16, 2006, 10:10:57 AM Really, what can management expect? They give us no info and every other month we've heard it's coming soon for the past few years. How can they expect us to respect their wishes when they don't respect us enough to have some simple form of communication. No other band out there has had to put up with the shit that the GN'R community has and we're the most loyal bar none.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Dont Try Me on February 16, 2006, 10:11:09 AM wait...so there job is.. just asking us to remove it?
Axl: "So did you delete the leaks on the forums?" management: "yeah, we asked them to delete the songs, so..... we did our job" Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 10:14:38 AM Mysteron, do you think this leak will hinder in some way the CD Album? I don't think some old demos could do that. Whatever has been planned should go on as normal. They're just trying to protect their artist's rights... as any normal manager would have done. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: nesquick on February 16, 2006, 10:18:20 AM I think Merck should read that book
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/0130336297.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg) read that book and learn his job. That's all I want to say. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: GunnerRose on February 16, 2006, 10:20:02 AM So the mangement company knows Mysteron posts messages in this board?
Don't get me wrong ....I love it when he posts....However, I guess i find it strange your identity is a mystery to us....but the management company knows who you are? I can picture it right now......your sleeping in the middle of the night.....your secret GnR batphone rings...... We got leaks!....get on that message board and stop them...Go..GO...GO Here is a message from the board to management.....do something for the fans....create a website, have a warm up gig, grant an interview, announce a line-up, update on a release, tell us your attempting to book a show, book a show and make sure your boy arrives at least 15 minutes early, etc. No really, Mysteron ...all jokes aside, let management know we are excited..... Now, I have to go and update the IPOD. LJ Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Skeba on February 16, 2006, 10:22:34 AM read that book and learn his job. That's all I want to say. I've read that book, but it didn't say anything about Chinese Democracy demos... Merc might've read it as well. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Pingouirose on February 16, 2006, 10:28:53 AM "don't mention the songs"...
It's fuckin stupid ;D You can't forbid us talking about that, we aren't in china democracy :confused: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Timothy on February 16, 2006, 10:31:30 AM I wouldn't trust GN"R managment to manage a 7/11 .Let alone one of the biggest band their use to be out there.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: McGann on February 16, 2006, 10:34:14 AM Maybe u should make Merck understand that they don't own the Internet...? ;) You're right. ?They don't own The entire internet. The songs, though, they do. Splash /Mike Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Nightfall on February 16, 2006, 10:46:36 AM Maybe u should make Merck understand that they don't own the Internet...? ;) You're right. ?They don't own The entire internet. The songs, though, they do. Splash /Mike Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Pandora on February 16, 2006, 10:49:26 AM Like Jim and AG said, things have gotten a little too out of hand and I don't see how discussion can be stopped. I guess all we can do is delete all the links to the songs, which we've done since the beginning anyway (well, since the first one among us logged in and saw the situation).
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Saul on February 16, 2006, 11:08:19 AM There was a leak?! ???
Seriously , for fucks sake .. this is all getting out of hand ... I mean the GNR band/project/community should not be treated like fucking Area 51 , we are NOT some kinda experiment in secrecy .. are we?! The fucking songs leaked and they can only blame themselves. Dont blame starving rapid fans hungry for new material from their favorite band , blame whoever leaked the cd-r to mike piazza. Blame your fucking selves , managment , for NO communication , NO website , NO updates (however small and insignificant) , NO concrete lineup of band members thats public knowledge , NO explaination for Philly and that 2002 tour ... NOTHING. And also , blame yourselves , mangement and members of GNR for shit like "soon" , "very soon" , "hairs breadth" , "next time I'm in chicago" etc etc .... We're starving for material and last nite we were rationed out a snack and we gobbled it up ... what does anyone expect? Merck and band members just CANT put themselves in our place , they've HEARD this music a zillion times unlike us. They should just be thankfull we heard it and loved it and atleast use our reactions as a measuring stick to see how strong the material is. Chinese Democracy? Fuck that , call it "Area 51 revisited" Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 16, 2006, 11:10:53 AM read that book and learn his job. That's all I want to say. I've read that book, but it didn't say anything about Chinese Democracy demos... Merc might've read it as well. I think Merck should read that book read that book and learn his job. That's all I want to say. look, we're all talking aboug gnr and are all exited ... i think GNR management is doing just fine. media talks about axl even when he does not say anything at a random party. i think gnr managemnt knows where they're going. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: anythinggoes on February 16, 2006, 11:11:49 AM There was a leak?!? ??? Seriously , for fucks sake .. this is all getting out of hand ... I mean the GNR band/project/community should not be treated like fucking Area 51 , we are NOT some kinda experiment in secrecy .. are we?! The fucking songs leaked and they can only blame themselves. Dont blame starving rapid fans hungry for new material from their favorite band , blame whoever leaked the cd-r to mike piazza. Blame your fucking selves , managment , for NO communication , NO website , NO updates (however small and insignificant) , NO concrete lineup of band members thats public knowledge , NO explaination for Philly and that 2002 tour ... NOTHING. And also , blame yourselves , mangement and members of GNR for shit like "soon" , "very soon" , "hairs breadth" , "next time I'm in chicago" etc etc .... We're starving for material and last nite we were rationed out a snack and we gobbled it up ... what does anyone expect? Merck and band members just CANT put themselves in our place , they've HEARD this music a zillion times unlike us. They should just be thankfull we heard it and loved it and atleast use our reactions as a measuring stick to see how strong the material is. Chinese Democracy? Fuck that , call it "Area 51 revisited" you forgot to blame Canada :hihi: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: J? on February 16, 2006, 11:13:09 AM I believer Mysteron is correct.
People should stop sharing the leaked links. Look this guy doesn't have to post here and confirm some Guns N' Roses news with us. He could simply say fuck it and fuck those people. But he posts here even when its not a secure environment and sometimes he gets huge backlash. He's just respecting Guns N' Roses management, and more important the bands interest. If they got some plan mapped out this could fuck up their potential plans or what not. Now am I saint ? No yes I downloaded the IRS demo and I think its cool, am I going to share it no. I'll probably delete it soon. However I am pleased with the song and the other demo Better. No way the discussion can end of this unfortunately. It's like the 4th of July fireworks, it just exploded and well yikes. Anyways we should respect Mysteron, and how he provides us info from time to time when really he doesn't have to thats what I am trying to say. --Jimmy Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BLS-Pride on February 16, 2006, 11:24:20 AM There was a leak?! ??? Seriously , for fucks sake .. this is all getting out of hand ... I mean the GNR band/project/community should not be treated like fucking Area 51 , we are NOT some kinda experiment in secrecy .. are we?! The fucking songs leaked and they can only blame themselves. Dont blame starving rapid fans hungry for new material from their favorite band , blame whoever leaked the cd-r to mike piazza. Blame your fucking selves , managment , for NO communication , NO website , NO updates (however small and insignificant) , NO concrete lineup of band members thats public knowledge , NO explaination for Philly and that 2002 tour ... NOTHING. And also , blame yourselves , mangement and members of GNR for shit like "soon" , "very soon" , "hairs breadth" , "next time I'm in chicago" etc etc .... We're starving for material and last nite we were rationed out a snack and we gobbled it up ... what does anyone expect? Merck and band members just CANT put themselves in our place , they've HEARD this music a zillion times unlike us. They should just be thankfull we heard it and loved it and atleast use our reactions as a measuring stick to see how strong the material is. Chinese Democracy? Fuck that , call it "Area 51 revisited" Agreed 100 percent. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 11:29:11 AM I believer Mysteron is correct. People should stop sharing the leaked links. Look this guy doesn't have to post here and confirm some Guns N' Roses news with us. He could simply say fuck it and fuck those people. But he posts here even when its not a secure environment and sometimes he gets huge backlash. He's just respecting Guns N' Roses management, and more important the bands interest. If they got some plan mapped out this could fuck up their potential plans or what not. Now am I saint ? No yes I downloaded the IRS demo and I think its cool, am I going to share it no. I'll probably delete it soon. However I am pleased with the song and the other demo Better. No way the discussion can end of this unfortunately. It's like the 4th of July fireworks, it just exploded and well yikes. Anyways we should respect Mysteron, and how he provides us info from time to time when really he doesn't have to thats what I am trying to say. --Jimmy Hey Jimmy did you download the songs? Are you gonna keep'em? hmmmm? Well then why shouldn't other fans get to hear them too? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Saul on February 16, 2006, 11:30:35 AM OH MY GOD GUYS , BE CAREFULL!!
I just went to the grocery store and I was blasting IRS and Better on my trucks stereo (sounds awesome through the R/T's infinity 8 speaker system and my two 10 inch subs btw) and the cops pulled me over ... I was like "umm , did I do something wrong officer?" .. when I noticed the "cop" car was all black , the "cop" was dressed all in black with big black sunglasses on .. without saying a word he went around to the passenger side opened the door , reached in and took the cd from my stereo , snapped it in half , flashed some flashlight device at my eye's/face and waled away without saying anything. I feel kinda dizzy now and I think I need a nap , my memory .. fading ... ahhhhhh :nervous: The coverup starts now!!! Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on February 16, 2006, 11:32:11 AM I can totally see where management is coming from...but management has to understand...this isn't a regular circumstance..this whole thing with GNR... We have been starved for material and we have been teased so to speak...Starting a tour and promoting something that has never been released. Even before the tour the album was being talked about and was being worked on. It's been long, long road for us so naturally we are going to listen to what we can. I know it sucks for GNR but it sucks for us too.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: blackpainter on February 16, 2006, 11:46:54 AM I just wander how could these stuff leak? From Whom the demos come out? And why one of them is cut.
Anyway if Axl(or his management) asks to delete those stuff, fans can do nothing but delete. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BLS-Pride on February 16, 2006, 11:47:29 AM I aint deleting shit.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BKinNYC on February 16, 2006, 11:50:05 AM The leaks are for people like us, though. Honestly, we're the fan base. I don't think anyone else who's not a hardcore fan even knows or cares. This is all I ever ask for - just a little taste. I'm not kidding you - I've listened to IRS probably 15 times already - I love it.
People at work make fun of me because I always tell them "When Chinese Democracy is released, I'm taking the day off." These leaks just prove why. I love it!!! Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: CAFC Nick on February 16, 2006, 11:59:46 AM If management really cared enough to try and contain in any kind of way these demos (removing discussion of them is never going to happen though, y'know) then Axl should just release a statement. A vague release date. Something to hold onto. Not just a slap on the wrist by management that actually holds no sway with the vast majority of people that post here. Just saying 'oh...the leak, yeah...don't listen to them. In fact, don't even talk about them. Delete everything!" is bollocks. A bit of communication with the fans wouldn't do any fucking harm. People seem to have missed the fact that, while Axl has been spotted all over the place recently, he still hasn't said anything with any substance to the fans since...Buckethead left? I don't know. Anyway, my point is that a simple 'request' phrased like that achieves nothing, and I'm sure management know it. Also, telling people to not whinge is pretty condescending to a dedicated forum that have been, in majority, very loyal. It's not showing much respect. I'm not saying fight it. The files aren't even uploaded, or linked to, here anyway. I'm just saying that management (whoever that is at the moment...) need to communicate a bit better if they expect something back. Still...Respect their wishes. Agree 100% with you. A little statement wouldn't hurt at all to the loyal fans who have been supporting him and hopeful of new studio material for the last 13 years. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: killingvector on February 16, 2006, 12:02:09 PM There was a leak?! ??? Seriously , for fucks sake .. this is all getting out of hand ... I mean the GNR band/project/community should not be treated like fucking Area 51 , we are NOT some kinda experiment in secrecy .. are we?! The fucking songs leaked and they can only blame themselves. Dont blame starving rapid fans hungry for new material from their favorite band , blame whoever leaked the cd-r to mike piazza. Blame your fucking selves , managment , for NO communication , NO website , NO updates (however small and insignificant) , NO concrete lineup of band members thats public knowledge , NO explaination for Philly and that 2002 tour ... NOTHING. And also , blame yourselves , mangement and members of GNR for shit like "soon" , "very soon" , "hairs breadth" , "next time I'm in chicago" etc etc .... We're starving for material and last nite we were rationed out a snack and we gobbled it up ... what does anyone expect? Merck and band members just CANT put themselves in our place , they've HEARD this music a zillion times unlike us. They should just be thankfull we heard it and loved it and atleast use our reactions as a measuring stick to see how strong the material is. Chinese Democracy? Fuck that , call it "Area 51 revisited" Absolutely. Fuck them. 13 years of silence, what exactly do they think fans will do if offered something new. Management should embrace the leak b/c it is giving axl some incredible publicity. Even Howard Stern liked the song. Seriously, I cannot understand this deny and cover mentality with this band. They are sitting on a terrific album, just let the public hear it. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: CAFC Nick on February 16, 2006, 12:03:04 PM To quote The bloke from kidNAPSTER on Futurama
"The internet is about freedom of speech and stealing other people's ideas" Get used to it Sanctuary :hihi: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: CAFC Nick on February 16, 2006, 12:05:21 PM They are sitting on a terrific album, just let the public hear it. They can also make a shitload of money off this album so fucking release it....please?... :peace: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: J? on February 16, 2006, 12:07:06 PM I believer Mysteron is correct. People should stop sharing the leaked links. Look this guy doesn't have to post here and confirm some Guns N' Roses news with us. He could simply say fuck it and fuck those people. But he posts here even when its not a secure environment and sometimes he gets huge backlash. He's just respecting Guns N' Roses management, and more important the bands interest. If they got some plan mapped out this could fuck up their potential plans or what not. Now am I saint ? No yes I downloaded the IRS demo and I think its cool, am I going to share it no. I'll probably delete it soon. However I am pleased with the song and the other demo Better. No way the discussion can end of this unfortunately. It's like the 4th of July fireworks, it just exploded and well yikes. Anyways we should respect Mysteron, and how he provides us info from time to time when really he doesn't have to thats what I am trying to say. --Jimmy Hey Jimmy did you download the songs? Are you gonna keep'em? hmmmm? Well then why shouldn't other fans get to hear them too? Management told us to stop. And I respect Mysteron Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Loaded NightraiN on February 16, 2006, 12:11:45 PM OH MY GOD GUYS , BE CAREFULL!! I just went to the grocery store and I was blasting IRS and Better on my trucks stereo (sounds awesome through the R/T's infinity 8 speaker system and my two 10 inch subs btw) and the cops pulled me over ... I was like "umm , did I do something wrong officer?"? .. when I noticed the "cop" car was all black , the "cop" was dressed all in black with big black sunglasses on .. without saying a word he went around to the passenger side opened the door , reached in and took the cd from my stereo , snapped it in half , flashed some flashlight device at my eye's/face and waled away without saying anything. I feel kinda dizzy now and I think I need a nap , my memory .. fading ... ahhhhhh? :nervous: The coverup starts now!!! :rofl: :rofl: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 12:12:33 PM Management told us to stop. And I respect Mysteron As do I. but......did you delete them? Are you listening to them? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Saul on February 16, 2006, 12:14:50 PM *UPDATE*
MY MP3 folder just got deleted. Disapeared , gone! :nervous: When I goto it all I see is a picture of a big garbage can and written on the garbage can is "Feel better now , homefuck?!" What the hell is going on?! :nervous: :peace: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on February 16, 2006, 12:15:48 PM :rofl: :rofl:
we should call mulder and scully for that Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: chineseblues on February 16, 2006, 12:17:00 PM Management told us to stop. And I respect Mysteron As do I. but......did you delete them? Are you listening to them? Im pretty sure they didnt mean it that way. I think they just meant dont post links to the songs on the net and stuff like that. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: killingvector on February 16, 2006, 12:23:47 PM Management told us to stop. And I respect Mysteron As do I. but......did you delete them? Are you listening to them? Im pretty sure they didnt mean it that way. I think they just meant dont post links to the songs on the net and stuff like that. I am sharing them with whomever asks. It is my duty as a fan and member of this community. No offense but if I Abide by management's wishes, I deprive people of pleasure. Since I plan to buy the album and any singles, they are not losing revenue b/c of me. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BLS-Pride on February 16, 2006, 12:27:02 PM ^ Bingo
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 12:30:45 PM Management told us to stop. And I respect Mysteron As do I. but......did you delete them? Are you listening to them? Im pretty sure they didnt mean it that way. I think they just meant dont post links to the songs on the net and stuff like that. I am sharing them with whomever asks. It is my duty as a fan and member of this community. No offense but if I imbide by management's wishes, I deprive people of pleasure. Since I plan to buy the album and any singles, they are not losing revenue b/c of me. Ditto, But Chineseblues what makes you so special that you get to listen to the tracks but people who were sleeping or out last night don't get to? I mean they are prolly just as big of GnR fans as everyone else right? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 12:37:11 PM I hope you've read the new rule, no more requests for the 2 demos.
Every request will be deleted... Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: chineseblues on February 16, 2006, 12:39:07 PM Management told us to stop. And I respect Mysteron As do I. but......did you delete them? Are you listening to them? Im pretty sure they didnt mean it that way. I think they just meant dont post links to the songs on the net and stuff like that. I am sharing them with whomever asks. It is my duty as a fan and member of this community. No offense but if I imbide by management's wishes, I deprive people of pleasure. Since I plan to buy the album and any singles, they are not losing revenue b/c of me. Ditto, But Chineseblues what makes you so special that you get to listen to the tracks but people who were sleeping or out last night don't get to? I mean they are prolly just as big of GnR fans as everyone else right? Im not saying its right or wrong. I was just pointing out what they probably meant. Sheesh get a grip people ::) Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: anythinggoes on February 16, 2006, 12:46:04 PM A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..."
this title reminds me of Falwty Towers when the Germans visit "dont mention the war" well you bloody started it" ahh classic well i guess we wont be seeing TWAT tonight nevermind ive had more excitement than i can cope with Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 12:55:54 PM Hears a deal, I won't mention the songs if management explains what the fuck happened at the Philly show, 2002
Being I was ducking flying chairs and all and waisted 6 hours of my life for that Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: mrlee on February 16, 2006, 12:57:33 PM Hears a deal, I won't mention the songs if management explains what the fuck happened at the Philly show, 2002 Being I was ducking flying chairs and all and waisted 6 hours of my life for that :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Just imagine what people at the riot show of 1991 would have been through lol. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 01:00:14 PM Im not saying its right or wrong. I was just pointing out what they probably meant. Sheesh get a grip people? ::) Dude, I'm not trying to be an ass, but, put yourself in other's shoes. What if you didn't manage to get the songs? You can bet your ass you would want someone to be nice and ignore Managements request. Am I right? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: chineseblues on February 16, 2006, 01:02:19 PM Im not saying its right or wrong. I was just pointing out what they probably meant. Sheesh get a grip people ::) Dude, I'm not trying to be an ass, but, put yourself in other's shoes. What if you didn't manage to get the songs? You can bet your ass you would want someone to be nice and ignore Managements request. Am I right? Of course id get it. I never said management were right I was just correcting what you said they were saying. Im pretty sure they dont mind the fans spreading it around to each other via email and such, just not out in the open, which I agree with them on that. I myself have been helping people get the songs via email and such just not out in the open.... Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 01:02:24 PM Hears a deal, I won't mention the songs if management explains what the fuck happened at the Philly show, 2002 Being I was ducking flying chairs and all and waisted 6 hours of my life for that :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Just imagine what people at the riot show of 1991 would have been through lol. I think it's a perfectly reasnoable request......and since it's not gonna happen on their end........ :hihi: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: christina_rose on February 16, 2006, 01:03:57 PM ok. So blabbermouth runs a story about it, splat supposedly ran a story on it, Howard Stern played it. This forum has been going crazy since yesterday about the song. And now everyone is supposed to pretend none of this ever happened. I'm sorry. I read every word, all 14 pages of the other thread. I was so excited about "the thing we're not supposed to talk about" I was shaking. I have heard "the thing we're not supposed to talk about". I am even more excited. Like alot of people here, I have been a fan for a long time. I have followed every rumor, every supposed story, for years. The day this CD hits I will be at the door of my closest music store to buy it. I will most likely buy several, just for the hell of it. So one song leaks out. No one is looking to make a profit from it. No one has said, "yeah, I'll give you the link for $5.". This is just alot of excited people who want to hear something new. Things have been going down since Axl made an appearance at that party with Korn, then he was spotted three days in a row, then there's a story about him offering to PLAY Chinese Democracy if a club stays open all night. Now this. So why all the secrets? The man himself in theory played the whole CD to a small group of people. Why the hell can't the rest of us have one song? This has gotten big. Really big. And this time I don't think it can be stopped. And I really hope it's not stopped. I hope this leads where alot of people are hoping it leads, to Chinese Democracy.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 01:07:26 PM Im not saying its right or wrong. I was just pointing out what they probably meant. Sheesh get a grip people? ::) Dude, I'm not trying to be an ass, but, put yourself in other's shoes. What if you didn't manage to get the songs? You can bet your ass you would want someone to be nice and ignore Managements request. Am I right? Of course id get it. I never said management were right I was just correcting what you said they were saying. Im pretty sure they dont mind the fans spreading it around to each other via email and such, just not out in the open, which I agree with them on that. I myself have been helping people get the songs via email and such just not out in the open.... Ah, see I think that they don't want it out there at all. Like, wait for the album, no downloading kinda thing. They wanna erase this leak's existence, which means sharing of any kind. :beer: Like I said, I never meant to be a jerk, just saying it's not right to say "here look what i got." :hihi: "Ahh it sounds sooo freaking awesome." :hihi: "To bad you don't have it and I'm not gonna let you hear it. nana-nana-nana" :P Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: EET_FUK on February 16, 2006, 01:12:05 PM You know, I can see them not wanting the link spread around, but acting like it never happened and not talking about it....WTF is that? I guess they don't like us to get excited about their band. This seems so absurd. Plus, why should we do something for "management"? What have they ever done for us?
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: CDesigner on February 16, 2006, 01:22:12 PM okay, let me preface this response by saying i haven't read this whole thread, nor have i even come CLOSE to reading all of the leak-related threads, so if i'm repeating something that's already been brought up, forgive me.
a band that has been in the process of making an album for 13 YEARS and has made allusions time and again to the album being released "soon" (or occasionally, "soon is not the word") and even now, when there have been fairly widespread rumors that the album is complete, has not announced a release date or even the fact that the album is, in fact, coming out this year ("you will hear music this year" is NOT the same as "chinese democracy will be out this year.") can't seriously expect its fanbase to ignore leaked tracks that COULD possibly end up being as close as we come to hearing the record, and at the very least could be the closest we come to hearing finished versions of these songs. sure, right now we're being told "soon, soon, soon" but it's been a broken record for going on a decade now and who knows how much music has come and gone (hopefully NOT deleted forever!) in that time that the GNR fanbase may never hear. i know i personally would KILL to have "IRS quality" demos of the tracks that were laid down with slash and duff prior to their departure, but chances are, we never will. so forgive us, the loyal fans, if we can't resist clicking the mouse to hear new music from a band that has released ONE new song in the past decade. want to stop us? i know i could be stopped with one simple statement: "chinese democracy will be released xx/xx/2006" a simple release date and i will refuse to click any further leak links. i can't imagine i'm the only one. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: SLCPUNK on February 16, 2006, 01:56:30 PM I just burned it to CD................... :hihi:
But don't mention that to anybody.................. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Timothy on February 16, 2006, 01:58:18 PM I just burned it to CD................... :hihi: But don't mention that to anybody.................. And he is putting on Ebay. :hihi: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Saul on February 16, 2006, 01:58:58 PM I just burned it to CD................... :hihi: But don't mention that to anybody.................. ad move , beware the men in black! Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: agropolus on February 16, 2006, 02:07:25 PM okay, let me preface this response by saying i haven't read this whole thread, nor have i even come CLOSE to reading all of the leak-related threads, so if i'm repeating something that's already been brought up, forgive me. a band that has been in the process of making an album for 13 YEARS and has made allusions time and again to the album being released "soon" (or occasionally, "soon is not the word") and even now, when there have been fairly widespread rumors that the album is complete, has not announced a release date or even the fact that the album is, in fact, coming out this year ("you will hear music this year" is NOT the same as "chinese democracy will be out this year.") can't seriously expect its fanbase to ignore leaked tracks that COULD possibly end up being as close as we come to hearing the record, and at the very least could be the closest we come to hearing finished versions of these songs. sure, right now we're being told "soon, soon, soon" but it's been a broken record for going on a decade now and who knows how much music has come and gone (hopefully NOT deleted forever!) in that time that the GNR fanbase may never hear. i know i personally would KILL to have "IRS quality" demos of the tracks that were laid down with slash and duff prior to their departure, but chances are, we never will. so forgive us, the loyal fans, if we can't resist clicking the mouse to hear new music from a band that has released ONE new song in the past decade. want to stop us? i know i could be stopped with one simple statement: "chinese democracy will be released xx/xx/2006" a simple release date and i will refuse to click any further leak links. i can't imagine i'm the only one. you said it all! Axl does whatever he wants and doesn't seem to care about the fans, he doesn't show up for shows, cancels tours, delays the album forever, and still we are here hanging on, waiting for the new album to come out. getting these leaked songs will surely NOT stop me from buying the new album (if it ever comes out), i swear i'll be the first in line to buy it, i'll arrive a week earlier in the store, pre-order it, all of that. I guess nothing would make me not wanting to listen to these leaked songs, even if they gave me a release date, i'll only believe the album will be released when i have it playing in my stereo! Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: SLCPUNK on February 16, 2006, 02:32:33 PM I just burned it to CD................... :hihi: But don't mention that to anybody.................. ad move , beware the men in black! Come and get me.......... I'll be the one with the loud music and the windows down.............. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Continental Drift on February 16, 2006, 03:10:30 PM I would be more sympathetic to management and Axl if he'd been aggressively protecting this stuff every second of his life... but as soon as he's cavalier enough with it to blast it at a strip club and NYC nightclubs and let his driver cruise around with it in the glove compartment... fvck it... he can't be THAT concerned about it... we're better fans of his than any of those mindless tarts he was partying with the other night... we're ALL going to buy CD Merck.... chill.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: RancidPunx on February 16, 2006, 03:11:53 PM This seems like a normal request. We get little/no information about the CD for years and then we are expected to make these songs vanish. Someone should tell Gn'R management that Al Gore invented the internet and therefore only he can control what goes on there.
Who outside of the hardcore Gn'R fans cares about these songs? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: axlsalinger on February 16, 2006, 03:15:36 PM Quote when I noticed the "cop" car was all black , the "cop" was dressed all in black with big black sunglasses on .. Ha ha, come to think of it I have seen a few black helicopters flying overhead today ... I get the point about taking the links down. But seriously now, did the band's management actually have the balls to say that people shouldn't even talk about these songs? Boy, that takes a lot of NERVE to say something that imbecilic to GNR fans. I guess we should have expected it, though, since we have been treated like garbage for 14 and a half years. One new song in all that time, Axl. One new song ... SEE YOU NEXT SUMMER, INDEED. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on February 16, 2006, 03:16:10 PM we're ALL going to buy CD Merck.... chill. :beer: ain't that the truth. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Eazy E on February 16, 2006, 03:25:08 PM You need to be extremely stupid when the band/management asks you to stop mentioning them and you keep on doing it... This is considered extremely stupid? :nervous: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Christos AG on February 16, 2006, 03:32:57 PM You need to be extremely stupid when the band/management asks you to stop mentioning them and you keep on doing it... This is considered extremely stupid? :nervous: Well, as I have already said, I understand that it's gotten out of hand, but if the artist doesn't want it out there, you should respect their wishes... cause it could turn against you. Wouldn't you feel extremely stupid if THAT happened? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Timothy on February 16, 2006, 03:36:05 PM You need to be extremely stupid when the band/management asks you to stop mentioning them and you keep on doing it... This is considered extremely stupid? :nervous: Well, as I have already said, I understand that it's gotten out of hand, but if the artist doesn't want it out there, you should respect their wishes... cause it could turn against you. Wouldn't you feel extremely stupid if THAT happened? How could The artist turn against anybody?I could see it if the artist actualy did something for the fansBut Guns haven't done shit for their fans in years. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: The Dog on February 16, 2006, 03:36:21 PM Quote when I noticed the "cop" car was all black , the "cop" was dressed all in black with big black sunglasses on .. Ha ha, come to think of it I have seen a few black helicopters flying overhead today ... I get the point about taking the links down. But seriously now, did the band's management actually have the balls to say that people shouldn't even talk about these songs? Boy, that takes a lot of NERVE to say something that imbecilic to GNR fans. I guess we should have expected it, though, since we have been treated like garbage for 14 and a half years. One new song in all that time, Axl. One new song ... SEE YOU NEXT SUMMER, INDEED. My understanding of the request was to simply remove all the links to places where you can download. I don't think it was DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE SONG and pretend it never existed - just don't make it so easily accessable. This isn't 1984 - big brother isn't watcing. Or...is he??? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: J? on February 16, 2006, 03:42:04 PM I respect Mysterons wishes so I won't be sending IRS around or anything. It's a cool song, also I want Mysteron posting here and answering our questions, I don't think its wise to piss off the dude or dudette. He seems to type like a dude so I will say hes a dude.
:peace: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Markus Asraelius on February 16, 2006, 03:45:48 PM I respect Mysterons wishes so I won't be sending IRS around or anything. It's a cool song, also I want Mysteron posting here and answering our questions, I don't think its wise to piss off the dude or dudette. He seems to type like a dude so I will say hes a dude. :peace: Sometimes, it's best not to assume. Some girls are rough. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: ppbebe on February 16, 2006, 03:55:52 PM ???
It's the management/ GNR camp who is requesting this and Mysteron is the messenger to my understanding. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: SLCPUNK on February 16, 2006, 04:17:54 PM I would be more sympathetic to management and Axl if he'd been aggressively protecting this stuff every second of his life... but as soon as he's cavalier enough with it to blast it at a strip club and NYC nightclubs and let his driver cruise around with it in the glove compartment... fvck it... he can't be THAT concerned about it... we're better fans of his than any of those mindless tarts he was partying with the other night... we're ALL going to buy CD Merck.... chill. I thought this very thing too. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: kyrie on February 16, 2006, 04:53:08 PM Well that is what Sanctuary are doing here. They can't be seen to be sitting back and letting this happen, can they? How would you feel if you were the artist? How would I feel? I'd feel fucking ecstatic that anyone still cared enough to create such a big to-do after all the years of silence. I'd feel vindicated that even the pricks on Blabbermouth et. al. are begrudgingly giving the tracks their due. And I'd be elated that the biggest (albeit overrated) radio personality in the world played a clip on his show. Too bad this leak didn't happen sooner, when Stern was still on traditional broadcast airwaves with a bigger audience. This is the best free publicity the band could have asked for, especially coming after Axl's increased public profile. And due to the huge interest in these tracks and the fact that nearly everyone's going to buy the CD at this point, the leaks don't equate to lost revenue. So, if management or anyone else can't live with that... take Axl's advise from I.R.S., call the FBI, cuz all they bother with these days is copyright infringement anyways, joke of a bought-off law enforcement agency that they are. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: christina_rose on February 16, 2006, 04:55:14 PM Quote Well, as I have already said, I understand that it's gotten out of hand, but if the artist doesn't want it out there, you should respect their wishes... cause it could turn against you. Wouldn't you feel extremely stupid if THAT happened? Again. If it wasn't supposed to be "out there", then why the hell would he bribe a club to stay open with the CD? We get one song, that we have already heard. Just better quality. Some a$$ club got to hear the whole CD. So now it will get turned against us? Because we have loyaly waited for years, hear one song, share it, and then get told not to. Now we'll go back to playing the "it's not finished yet, they have to add the kazoo solo". And no, I wouldn't feel stupid if this whole thing backfired. THEY would be the stupid ones. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: axlsalinger on February 16, 2006, 05:09:25 PM I hope it's clear that pretty much everyone who has posted or viewed this forum over the past 24 hours will buy a copy of anything Axl puts out on the first day of release. Hell, half the people will probably buy 2 copies!
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Mr.Intensity on February 16, 2006, 05:14:14 PM I respect Mysterons wishes so I won't be sending IRS around or anything. It's a cool song, also I want Mysteron posting here and answering our questions, I don't think its wise to piss off the dude or dudette. He seems to type like a dude so I will say hes a dude. :peace: Yeah, I like him too, but do you really think he doesn't want all the real gnr fans to hear the music dude. Sometimes people just say what they gotta say when they are asked by someone in power to do it. Mysteron obviously knows someone he can get gnr info from, so out of respect for that dude he is just REQUESTING we stop sharing the file. I don't think Mysteron will lose any sleep if you share the songs. I think we all deserve to hear these new tunes, I am happy I got too. :peace: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: McDuff on February 16, 2006, 05:34:27 PM I won't post links to the songs on here,but there is no way in hell that someone is gonna stop me from sharing the songs with other GN'R fans,if you don't have the songs contact me and you'll get them : ok:
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: the dirt on February 16, 2006, 05:41:25 PM I respect Mysterons wishes so I won't be sending IRS around or anything. It's a cool song, also I want Mysteron posting here and answering our questions, I don't think its wise to piss off the dude or dudette. He seems to type like a dude so I will say hes a dude. And did some one pass you the song(s) somehow? It's good that there are others who do send it around upon request, since you're not one of them. At this stage of the game I'll take whatever listening i can get, 'cause, still, no one knows when and if this thing will get released. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BLS-Pride on February 16, 2006, 06:18:02 PM I do not get why these boards are droppin at the sound of Merk's voice. Who cares? If the fuckin band had a website or an update once and a while. Something then Id say Ok.. I respect there wishes. But GnR is bullshit. I love them but they are just bullshit. Why listen to Merk and company.. they aren't goin to hunt everyone down one by one. Maybe they should get off their suit asses and see that people are loving the new material and grow balls and push axl to finish the fuckin thing.. Or maybe just maybe update there fucking website.. Or something.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: mikegiuliana on February 16, 2006, 06:21:35 PM why would anyone want to hide these leaks wehn all it does is build up towards the album and spread around the rock community..
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BLS-Pride on February 16, 2006, 06:23:09 PM Exactly. And I dont want no Axl sob stories that his work is on the net now.. Too bad.. He's down some of the most fucked up shit to fans and people still kiss his feet.. To that I say shit happens. Release your album. I have always seperated his personal atitude and the music but this time I wont.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on February 16, 2006, 06:25:42 PM I do not get why these boards are droppin at the sound of Merk's voice. Who cares? If the fuckin band had a website or an update once and a while. Something then Id say Ok.. I respect there wishes. But GnR is bullshit. I love them but they are just bullshit. Why listen to Merk and company.. they aren't goin to hunt everyone down one by one. Maybe they should get off their suit asses and see that people are loving the new material and grow balls and push axl to finish the fuckin thing.. Or maybe just maybe update there fucking website.. Or something. My guess would be because alot of the forums have connections to Merck and he does confirm rumors that go around to not be true. So I guess in that sense the board is sorta obligated to respect the wishes of GNR's management...plus this is a gnr forum so. I dunno I am starting to believe management has all to do with these leaks. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Steel_Angel on February 16, 2006, 06:28:47 PM so umm who leaked the tracks?
www.Gnrreincarnated.tk Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on February 16, 2006, 06:46:05 PM I think you know what I am going to say and ask? :hihi: Please can you remove all leaked files, including any links and please can you remove all mention to the leaks (to the best of your ability) And please don't whinge. Asking not to leak it is one thing but there is a huge buzz about these demos, mostly postitive so why try and kill the buzz? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: alexh0618 on February 16, 2006, 06:48:40 PM I can see taking the links to the songs off but not even talking about the songs is flat out STUPID. I was on the HTGTH main page today and in the news colum, it stated that there were in fact, 2 songs leaked. I went on that same page a half hour later, and guess what, the article is taken off and replaced with the "new VR dancing CD." WTF is up with that?
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BLS-Pride on February 16, 2006, 07:05:42 PM It's the suits. Damn suits.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: jimmythegent on February 16, 2006, 07:10:11 PM I think the Management should spend their time to create a Guns N' Roses official website instead of giving lessons of moral to the fans "you should do this, don't mention that, erase this, delete that" etc... Mysteron, tell the Management to do their job. great post nesquick - they have a nerve to some extent alright the only time any communication is offered is when its a slap on the wrist or something negative let the fans rejoice that we have something to enjoy also, who thinks Better is the first single and this was a deliberate leak? Theres no way thats a demo in my view (as IRS clearly is). Give them a better version of the demo thats already leaked and a little taste of the new single before it hits the airwaves? Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Chief on February 16, 2006, 07:11:38 PM i wonder who sent out that infamous Piazza disc anyway????????!!?!?!?
was it a band member or Axl? i mean, the moment its out there they've gotta know its gonna get in the hands of someone who will spread it to everyone...... Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: D on February 16, 2006, 07:12:29 PM I do not get why these boards are droppin at the sound of Merk's voice. Who cares? If the fuckin band had a website or an update once and a while. Something then Id say Ok.. I respect there wishes. But GnR is bullshit. I love them but they are just bullshit. Why listen to Merk and company.. they aren't goin to hunt everyone down one by one. Maybe they should get off their suit asses and see that people are loving the new material and grow balls and push axl to finish the fuckin thing.. Or maybe just maybe update there fucking website.. Or something. Great fuckin posti agree Leak away!!!!! I dont think ill listen to "Better" I want to hear the album in its entirety the way its suppose to be heard. Leaks spoil albums and Ive waited too long to be spoiled now. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Timothy on February 16, 2006, 07:14:10 PM I do not get why these boards are droppin at the sound of Merk's voice. Who cares? If the fuckin band had a website or an update once and a while. Something then Id say Ok.. I respect there wishes. But GnR is bullshit. I love them but they are just bullshit. Why listen to Merk and company.. they aren't goin to hunt everyone down one by one. Maybe they should get off their suit asses and see that people are loving the new material and grow balls and push axl to finish the fuckin thing.. Or maybe just maybe update there fucking website.. Or something. Great fuckin posti agree Leak away!!!!! I dont think ill listen to "Better" I want to hear the album in its entirety the way its suppose to be heard. Leaks spoil albums and Ive waited too long to be spoiled now. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Saul on February 16, 2006, 07:16:06 PM I do not get why these boards are droppin at the sound of Merk's voice. Who cares? If the fuckin band had a website or an update once and a while. Something then Id say Ok.. I respect there wishes. But GnR is bullshit. I love them but they are just bullshit. Why listen to Merk and company.. they aren't goin to hunt everyone down one by one. Maybe they should get off their suit asses and see that people are loving the new material and grow balls and push axl to finish the fuckin thing.. Or maybe just maybe update there fucking website.. Or something. Great fuckin posti agree Leak away!!!!! I dont think ill listen to "Better" I want to hear the album in its entirety the way its suppose to be heard. Leaks spoil albums and Ive waited too long to be spoiled now. Then we are in the same boat we've been in for years .. album or leaks , I dont care which comes first .. i'll buy the album anyways if it ever comes out. But I will download any leaks I can get too. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Origen on February 16, 2006, 07:16:39 PM http://www.sp1at.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411
Lisa Reed wrote these words to the original Dizzy Reed message board with regards to the recent leak; I just don't understand it. If people claim to love the band and Axl so much why on earth would you do something you know will piss them off? Especially when all signs point to it getting closer and closer. It's like shaking all your christmas presents on the 23rd of December and figuring out what they are. No suprise and you ruined the fun for the giver. I just as much as anyone want this record to come out. but BE PATIENT![/b] Who the does she think she is. We are pissing the band off, yeah well if they just released it there would be no problems. And your a little late my dear thousands of people have this now and still spreading. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: WARose on February 16, 2006, 07:17:14 PM I do not get why these boards are droppin at the sound of Merk's voice. Who cares? If the fuckin band had a website or an update once and a while. Something then Id say Ok.. I respect there wishes. But GnR is bullshit. I love them but they are just bullshit. Why listen to Merk and company.. they aren't goin to hunt everyone down one by one. Maybe they should get off their suit asses and see that people are loving the new material and grow balls and push axl to finish the fuckin thing.. Or maybe just maybe update there fucking website.. Or something. Great fuckin posti agree Leak away!!!!! I dont think ill listen to "Better" I want to hear the album in its entirety the way its suppose to be heard. Leaks spoil albums and Ive waited too long to be spoiled now. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: WARose on February 16, 2006, 07:18:46 PM http://www.sp1at.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411 Lisa Reed wrote these words to the original Dizzy Reed message board with regards to the recent leak; I just don't understand it. If people claim to love the band and Axl so much why on earth would you do something you know will piss them off? Especially when all signs point to it getting closer and closer. It's like shaking all your christmas presents on the 23rd of December and figuring out what they are. No suprise and you ruined the fun for the giver. I just as much as anyone want this record to come out. but BE PATIENT![/b] Who the does she think she is. We are pissing the band off, yeah well if they just released it there would be no problems. And your a little late my dear thousands of people have this now and still spreading. yeah it sound a bit arrogant..........but she`s right. and her comments are one more hint to the release..... i guess 3 months ago this would`ve been big news :hihi: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Saul on February 16, 2006, 07:21:57 PM Be patient. Yeah , waiting ten years is certainly not patient. Especially when members of GNR (including her husband) have dangled the democracy carrot in our faces so many times over the years.
If this pisses off the band then it does. IMHO , I bet NOBODY except axl and merck are pissed. THis is probably the only chance some members will even get to hear a near completed version of a song. :rofl: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 16, 2006, 07:22:46 PM http://www.sp1at.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411 Lisa Reed wrote these words to the original Dizzy Reed message board with regards to the recent leak; I just don't understand it. If people claim to love the band and Axl so much why on earth would you do something you know will piss them off? Especially when all signs point to it getting closer and closer. It's like shaking all your christmas presents on the 23rd of December and figuring out what they are. No suprise and you ruined the fun for the giver. I just as much as anyone want this record to come out. but BE PATIENT![/b] Who the does she think she is. We are pissing the band off, yeah well if they just released it there would be no problems. And your a little late my dear thousands of people have this now and still spreading. BE PATIENT!! ?Thats funny. ?The whole GNR online community being told to BE PATIENT!!. ?thanks for the laugh! :rofl: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: BLS-Pride on February 16, 2006, 07:24:22 PM I could give two shits what Dizzy's wife says. She doesn't know shit. Dizzy doesn't know shit. Leak on until Merck and Axl throw us a fucking bone and say a few words to the fans or have a fuckin website.. people's dogs have websites.. Axl Rose cant have one? Leak away.. Sorry Mrs. Reed.. Stay off the internet if you dont want to see whats happening.
Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: tinyrobot on February 16, 2006, 07:25:09 PM Se?or Mysteron:
Please tell your Master that he should know Internet better... its fucking late already to stop the leaking of the leaks, hahahaaaa........ Its spreaded all over like METASTASIS 8) so... hmm... tough luck, lol :hihi: umm... and stop pretending you dont have anything to do with the leaks. I guess you already got more than you ever thought you would: ppl are responding positive to these songs so, cut the crap and release the album. Its gonna sell millions. MOVE YER ASS!!!!! :smoking: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 07:29:25 PM Yeah, be patient :rofl: :hihi:
What the fuck do you think I've been the last 10+ years, impatient :rant: I know a surefire way to stop the leaks release the fucking album already :peace: :hihi: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on February 16, 2006, 08:43:01 PM well this is quite the thread
i'd already decided that i'm gonna wait for CD and not dl any leaks nor do i want to read any reviews or lyrics posted so it'd be nice for those of us who feel this way to have a spoiler warning where needed (not needed for threads which are obviously reviews about the leaked tracks) Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: kyrie on February 16, 2006, 11:22:44 PM well this is quite the thread i'd already decided that i'm gonna wait for CD and not dl any leaks nor do i want to read any reviews or lyrics posted so it'd be nice for those of us who feel this way to have a spoiler warning where needed (not needed for threads which are obviously reviews about the leaked tracks) This is the first time I've ever seen anyone request a spoiler warning for music... Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: The Dog on February 17, 2006, 12:03:22 AM well this is quite the thread i'd already decided that i'm gonna wait for CD and not dl any leaks nor do i want to read any reviews or lyrics posted so it'd be nice for those of us who feel this way to have a spoiler warning where needed (not needed for threads which are obviously reviews about the leaked tracks) This is the first time I've ever seen anyone request a spoiler warning for music... me too...I'm speechless. Is that a joke? HOW CAN YOU SPOIL A SONG ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!??!?! hahah hey TWAT starts out slow, then <SPOILER ALERT> picks up tempo and turns into a ROCKER!!! HAHAHAHA :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: erose on February 17, 2006, 07:58:54 AM http://www.sp1at.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411 Lisa Reed wrote these words to the original Dizzy Reed message board with regards to the recent leak; I just don't understand it. If people claim to love the band and Axl so much why on earth would you do something you know will piss them off? Especially when all signs point to it getting closer and closer. It's like shaking all your christmas presents on the 23rd of December and figuring out what they are. No suprise and you ruined the fun for the giver. I just as much as anyone want this record to come out. but BE PATIENT![/b] Who the does she think she is. We are pissing the band off, yeah well if they just released it there would be no problems. And your a little late my dear thousands of people have this now and still spreading. true and i get the point, but it's not like we have the whole record or even a whole song for gods sake, we have a poor quality demo from fuckin' 2003.... but yeah, if the record showed up online i wouldn't spoil the fun downloading it. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on February 21, 2006, 03:18:52 PM me too...I'm speechless.? Is that a joke?? HOW CAN YOU SPOIL A SONG ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!??!?! hahah i'd already decided that i'm gonna wait for CD and not dl any leaks nor do i want to read any reviews or lyrics posted now that I've answered your question feel free to remain 'speechless'? ;D Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: 88 Days on February 21, 2006, 03:23:45 PM excactly how is this mysterion person linked to gnr's management?
i want to know. Title: Re: A Request / Management: "do not mention the songs ..." Post by: mikegiuliana on February 21, 2006, 03:39:50 PM Ok tell axl I won't tell anyone about the songs or spread any leaks : ok:
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