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Title: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: axlsalinger on February 01, 2006, 03:56:59 AM What do you suppose the odds are that Chinese Democracy will be in some way a concept album? It seems probable that the songs will have similarities in terms of sound and theme. Axl mentioned Queen specifically, and has said in the past that Queen II was his favourite record, very much a conceptual record.
What do you think? Concept album or collection of songs? Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: Gordi on February 01, 2006, 04:02:13 AM Interesting theory, perhaps it could be... Maybe this time has been spent on writing a narrative in songs or something.
I guess we'll know soon enough! : ok: Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: jameslofton29 on February 01, 2006, 04:26:21 AM Yeah, I think there will be a specific theme to the album. But without hearing the songs, or at least having a confirmed track list, it would just be a guess. I did an identical thread to this last year. You should have just resurrected my thread. : ok:
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on February 01, 2006, 09:50:16 AM whrn did axl say queen II was his favourite record?
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: Scabbie on February 01, 2006, 03:49:09 PM I have a worrying feeling Chinese Democracy will always remain a 'concept' album :hihi:
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: vanilie on October 02, 2008, 03:50:52 PM why not ?
I am sure that behind all the songs Axl and the band recorded, there is a concept. All the new songs we heard are about a person, either a woman or the old members of gnr I guess, and they relate differents moments of life. so my guess is chinese democracy could be Axl's autobiography! what do you think of that ? others ideas ? :) Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: wadey on October 02, 2008, 04:00:21 PM id say your thinking too much......
which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"? Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: Regibold on October 02, 2008, 04:06:07 PM Yes of course there is, it was said that there is a certain order that the songs go to (more less compliment each other). Sadly I can't find a song from all we've heard that ties itself to or with 'Catcher in the rye'. We shall see come Nov??
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: vanilie on October 02, 2008, 04:07:59 PM id say your thinking too much...... which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"? madagascar Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: wadey on October 02, 2008, 04:13:24 PM id say your thinking too much...... which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"? madagascar interesting? people interpret songs differently, i could see what your thinking but i'm thinking differently All the new songs we heard are about a person, either a woman or the old members of gnr I guess, and they relate differents moments of life. i think that could be the same for any band (singer/songwriter)......all songs relate to different moments in life. or are about a person or something that relates to them Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: Butch Français on October 02, 2008, 04:14:38 PM id say your thinking too much...... which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"? most of them could actually. as far as it being a concept album, the only concept will be to put the best songs on the album(s) in a complimentary fashion...I think. Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on October 02, 2008, 04:39:41 PM Most of Axl's newer stuff seems very autobiographical.
The writing has become a bit more deep than when the old band was together. Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: vanilie on October 02, 2008, 04:52:33 PM All the new songs we heard are about a person, either a woman or the old members of gnr I guess, and they relate differents moments of life. i think that could be the same for any band (singer/songwriter)......all songs relate to different moments in life. or are about a person or something that relates to them that's right, but imo, songs on CD were not chosen at random. there's a link between them I think Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: torzt on October 02, 2008, 05:39:19 PM Well actually Axl has said about CD that : "Its truly a melting pot" which should point in the oposite direction of a concept album...
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: LeftToDecay on October 02, 2008, 06:31:52 PM Well actually Axl has said about CD that : "Its truly a melting pot" which should point in the oposite direction of a concept album... Wasn't that just a comment regarding different musical styles present though? It doesn't rule out the change of concept album.....I don't believe in it either though. But hay who knows. The melting pot remark always felt a little troubling somehow. It wouldn't be nice if CD was too much of a smish smash of sounds and styles. I'd rather not see an album that sounds like it has been 10 years in the making, with 10 different "band members", 10 different producers, in 10 different studios with 10 different studio engineers, and 10..ah you get point:P Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: DeN on October 02, 2008, 06:45:15 PM probably more autobiographical than conceptual. about Madagascar we knows he spent some time there. in China, too.
lyrics are sometimes about women (stephanie seymour, jennifer driver...) don't forget he's a huge fan of roger waters, too. Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: ben9785 on October 02, 2008, 06:51:16 PM Well actually Axl has said about CD that : "Its truly a melting pot" which should point in the oposite direction of a concept album... The melting pot remark I believe was more about the sound of the album, and the different styles coming together, rather than the concept of the album itself in terms of themes/lyrics Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on October 02, 2008, 08:41:56 PM Only Axl knows what goes on in Axl's head...and like the rest of humanity, his hold on that is tenuous at times. I will wait for his explaination before I fall into the trap of 'reviewing' or commenting on an unreleased album we know very little about.
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on October 02, 2008, 08:54:53 PM While I'm eager to hear Axl's first interview as mentioned by D, I'd really love to hear him break down the songs, how the developed by musically and lyrically. GN'R Storytellers would be great!
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on October 02, 2008, 09:01:14 PM id say your thinking too much...... which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"? most of them could actually. as far as it being a concept album, the only concept will be to put the best songs on the album(s) in a complimentary fashion...I think. I specifically think The Blues is about Slash. TWAT about Stephanie Seymour. Madagascar about Axl's isolation from the public. IRS about his lawsuits. Message For You partly about the drama of getting CD completed. Then you have songs like Rhiad, Chinese Democracy, and Shacklers which are less autobiographical. Just my guesses anyway. Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: Albert S Miller on October 03, 2008, 11:07:45 AM id say your thinking too much...... which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"? most of them could actually. as far as it being a concept album, the only concept will be to put the best songs on the album(s) in a complimentary fashion...I think. I specifically think The Blues is about Slash. TWAT about Stephanie Seymour. Madagascar about Axl's isolation from the public. IRS about his lawsuits. Message For You partly about the drama of getting CD completed. Then you have songs like Rhiad, Chinese Democracy, and Shacklers which are less autobiographical. Just my guesses anyway. Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: PJ on October 03, 2008, 01:15:07 PM In the words of the Baz
Quote Well, Ive heard the six tracks that were leaked, and they're amazing Bach: But those arent the final versions. he laughed about those. those arent the record. those are some other version of whatever. One of my favorite songs - I asked axl if I could mention the song titles and he said "fine"--and one of my favorite songs is this song called "the general" which is so, its by far the heaviest metal tune I think ive ever heard axl do, this slow grinding riff with these high peircing vocals, screaming vocals. I was like , when is this coming out? and he said "2012" I was like dude, your killin me! He goes, "well this comes out on the third record. it relates to this song, its a trilogy, this goes with this lyrically." hes got it all figured out, hes just different than other people. he does thingso n his own time, in his own way, but you know...the worlds not prepared for what ive heard from this guy. its got the grandness and the epic-ness of november rain but with the snarl, the attitude of appetite. because the album that ive heard, alot of the drumming is by brain, who plays so heavy and mean. its a really...grand is the word for it, but its still got that attitude. Theres some great music comin' your way. My album meanwhile is 100 percent comin out on november 20. thats 100 percentile. its done, its mastered, ive got it on my fucking ipod and its ready to go. Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: GNR4L on October 03, 2008, 01:18:58 PM In the words of the Baz Quote Well, Ive heard the six tracks that were leaked, and they're amazing Bach: But those arent the final versions. he laughed about those. those arent the record. those are some other version of whatever. One of my favorite songs - I asked axl if I could mention the song titles and he said "fine"--and one of my favorite songs is this song called "the general" which is so, its by far the heaviest metal tune I think ive ever heard axl do, this slow grinding riff with these high peircing vocals, screaming vocals. I was like , when is this coming out? and he said "2012" I was like dude, your killin me! He goes, "well this comes out on the third record. it relates to this song, its a trilogy, this goes with this lyrically." hes got it all figured out, hes just different than other people. he does thingso n his own time, in his own way, but you know...the worlds not prepared for what ive heard from this guy. its got the grandness and the epic-ness of november rain but with the snarl, the attitude of appetite. because the album that ive heard, alot of the drumming is by brain, who plays so heavy and mean. its a really...grand is the word for it, but its still got that attitude. Theres some great music comin' your way. My album meanwhile is 100 percent comin out on november 20. thats 100 percentile. its done, its mastered, ive got it on my fucking ipod and its ready to go. It will be intresting to hear what tracks Frank and Ron played on the entire album. Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: PJ on October 03, 2008, 01:27:05 PM ron plays in every CD song..
he have said it in a few interviews... i dont know frank... but im almost sure he will be in the final version of if the world Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: overmatik on October 03, 2008, 04:55:28 PM All the songs in a concept album must have a mutual theme, like "Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" and "Division Bell". The songs we know so far doesn't share the same theme.
But, of course, my dream is that CD will feature 13 songs we've never heard of! :peace: Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: PJ on October 04, 2008, 01:20:11 AM it could be a vague theme or a plot..
representing every chapter with dif song.. like Marilyn Manson... and the concept trilogy he created (Hollywood, Mechanical Animals and Antichrist Superstar), the songs dont relate lirically.. but in the whole concept, the whole theme.. they add something to the plot and connect each other Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: alejoyp on October 04, 2008, 06:29:59 PM I think it'll be a collection of songs but most of the songs are inspired by his relationship with Stephanie (TWAT, MFY, Oklahoma...). BTW, The Blues is about Dylan, Stephanie's son... he said that back in time...
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: PJ on October 04, 2008, 11:33:18 PM nope
he said THIS I LOVE was about dylan Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: russkwtx on October 04, 2008, 11:57:53 PM How about this as a concept: "put the album in stores so people can buy it?"
Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: alejoyp on October 05, 2008, 12:54:38 AM nope he said THIS I LOVE was about dylan He said The Blues, n' this appeared in Rolling STone magazine... read the lyrics... Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: Butch Français on October 05, 2008, 10:50:22 AM id say your thinking too much...... which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"? most of them could actually. as far as it being a concept album, the only concept will be to put the best songs on the album(s) in a complimentary fashion...I think. I specifically think The Blues is about Slash. TWAT about Stephanie Seymour. Madagascar about Axl's isolation from the public. IRS about his lawsuits. Message For You partly about the drama of getting CD completed. Then you have songs like Rhiad, Chinese Democracy, and Shacklers which are less autobiographical. Just my guesses anyway. I think IRS is about the fans that think Axl owe them something. Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: Butch Français on October 05, 2008, 10:54:42 AM ron plays in every CD song.. he have said it in a few interviews... i dont know frank... but im almost sure he will be in the final version of if the world I REALLY hope not. that song has, like many of them, Brain's signature written all over it! Title: Re: Chinese Democracy - Concept Album? Post by: PJ on October 05, 2008, 11:15:15 AM yeah i know..
of all the leaks we have heard.. thats the most brain-esque for me its really a shame that they deleted brain stuff for franks because i dont like frank style at all |