Here Today... Gone To Hell!

cant believe there hasnt been a thread about this, I must take my hat of to the strokes for producing a cracking third album, very few bands today manage to make a brilliant third album, Its wonderful, so diverse and the songs are really strong. Lets talk about the Strokes, what do you make of their social impact? arguably the biggest social impact since nirvana, i mean you could say the strokes single handedly killed nu -metal with their debut "is this it", they just made everything cool. You guys in America are really lucky to have the Strokes  8)

What you mean? First Impressions isn't out until January! But I do agree with what you said about their social impact, the garage scene definitely killed off nu-metal as far as I'm concerned.

I love the Strokes, but this album isn't even out yet.

Dude, search function. It's not been two weeks since I posted this.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=24221.0

I think the Strokes are ok, but really overrated. Nothing that special about them. There are a million garage bands that sound just like them or are better, it's just that they hit the jackpot and become darlings of the critics.

The Album has already leaked.

Id say the strokes are unique, julians vocals make them unique, he sounds like a cross between, the velvet underground, the pogues and the jesus and mary chain. All great influences.

weren't they suppose to cover November Rain on this album?
guess they didn't get permission, hehe.

Seriously? Were they going to cover it in a totally different style, cause I cant see the Strokes doing a piano ballad.

I don't know how they were gonna do it, but I definately remember an interview with one of the Strokes guys where he said they were gonna cover it!

Strokes, making a social impact compared to Nirvana, thats too much dude... I cant believe it yet.  But it was great to know Matt, Slash and Duff appeared in one of their Videos.

Im not comparing it to nirvana, the only band whos social impact can be compared to nirvana is Oasis.

Oasis man?????

Well maybe you as a fan, see things that way man, but sadly a band to have a social impact needs to be number 1 in the States, constantly and Oasis didnt get it.

Oasis have sold over 50 million records. So believe me, they don't give a shit about the United States. Their success speacks for themselves.
Finally Oasis is a much bigger band than Nirvana ever was.

Whats the story morning glory; was number 4 in the US. Whilst Be Here Now reached number 2. Oasis have sold around 8 million albums in the US, without any promotion, aborted tours, liam gallagher spitting on stage suring the VMA's and throwing beer at the crowd, making carson daily look like an idiot on TRL, thats the beauty of it THEY DONT PLAY THE FUCKING GAME, they do whatever the fuck they want, and any person who denies their social impact is truely ignorant.

Has anyone heard the new strokes album yet? it should be available on torrent sites, opinions?

Guys I agree Oasis is a successful band, but certainly their music hasnt changed the face of the music industry like Nirvana's. Dont get me wrong I dont like NIrvana but they did it.

I would like to hear this new Strokes album.  There are a few strokes songs that I like.  I have no idea what they are called though.  AND Just because a band isn't big in the US doesn't mean they aren't a huge band.  Oasis own the fucking UK.  They have 9 number one's now (two off the new album already) so who's to argue.  Obviously they didn't have the impact that Nirvana did in the US, but Oasis definitely have an impact in the UK.  But the Strokes on the other hand, there impact can't really be compared to either Oasis or Nirvana.  Those two bands are on a whole different level that the Strokes.

For the record, only pop fans buy singles.

Yeah right... not the huge fans who want the extra tracks often included in singles? And what about the collector's point of view?

for the record, you are an idiot.

For the record, you can suck my D**K!!! Fin

 ::) is that it?, in truth you are a cunt who probably only owns 5-10 "really really hard rockin metal albums ::)" The Beatles are a pop band and they piss all over anything you listen to. You must be pretty fucking shite to make statements like that. Run along now you streak of piss.



 

20 replies and i cant remember one reply commenting on the album, Ive downloaded it but i will definitely buy it. Its filled with charm, its cool as fuck and its definitely their most grand album, the guitar work is great, the balance of rythm and melody is superb...

The lyrics are pretty fucking good also;

 "I hate them all/I hate them all/I hate myself for hating them/So i'll drink some more I'll love them all/I'll drink even more i'll hate them ever more than i did before/On the other side/Nobody's waiting for me on the other side"

As I said to you in another thread... I don't like it but that's only after 2 preview listens that I heard a month or so ago before it leaked. I'll give it another listen as I'll almost certainly buy it but at present I'm not impressed. It's better than the 2nd but worse than the debut.

Beatles rules dudes.  :beer:

I really like the second album, sonically its a masterpeice, due to its futuristic production,its feels like an album ahead of its time. However there are a couple of weak songs on it,  but it also has some of their best work on it.
the first one is a classic, but give the third one some time, Its my favourite of the lot ;)

I love the beatles. Go read the "what are you listening to right now- thread" to find out. 

Yeah bought the album yesterday, a very impressive album, definitely worth a listen. So far I'd say it's better than both the first and the second, and I do love the first and the second.

you mean you love the beatles because its fashionable :rofl:

No beatles fan would say something ridiculously ignorant as "only pop fans buy singles"  please stop posting.

Still don't like it after a few more listens.

Simply not impressed with The Strokes since "Is This It?". The new album is undoubtedly an attempt to go in a slightly new direction but I just don't like it. Can't tell you why but it's just an easily forgettable album. Maybe it'll grow on me... I wasn't a fan of the first album initially but love it now.

how can you not like "you only live once", "Heart in a cage". "razorblade"????

take it in small doses first buddy

You've actually named the only 3 tracks on the album that I sort of like. Although the chorus of Razorblade reminds me too much of "Mandy" by Barry Manilow for my liking!

It's not that it's really bad, it's that it's easily forgetable.

I'm feeling the same way, I've tried listening to 'First Impressions' a few times but it just doesn't seem that special. I loved the first two albums, but this one's just "sort of ok".

I don' know what you guy's are listening to at all, but I want to make a quick comparison of the current GNR/CD to another band--The Strokes.

If you are not aware, The Strokes (also Sanctuary mgt), just released their latest First Impressions.   Many of the songs have the surf-vibe that was found on Izzy's 117 Degree's album, and Ask me Anything has a keyboard loop that sounds very reminiscent of the riff on SCOM.

Beyond those comparisons, there is something that is very profound about this album.  First of all, they pushed their musical limits.  This is their Rubber Soul/Revolver album.  The songwriting took on a very experimental, more mature nature.  The results are magical.  Not only are the lyrics very impressive, but the music really grows upon one after multiple listens.  Unlike their straight forward rockin first two LP's, this one is like fine wine, it really grows upon every listen.  It's too early to guage the early results from sales, as The Strokes typically will sell around 500,000 units in the States, and a million overseas.   It looks like this album may not quite get the initial results that Is This It did, but will have far more long term album sales and relevance.  Many are comparing them to the Replacements--arguably the most important alt. band of all time, but never quite caught commercial fire.

I am wondering, how happy would many of you be if CD is phenomenal musically, and relevant, but does not come near the commercial success of even the Greatest Hits package.  I would be happy if it surpasses 1 million units in the first year in the States, and sells over 2 million units overseas.

BTW, go buy First Impressions if you are a rock fan--it is a gem.  Remember, you won't get it on the 1st two or three spins, but it will grow on you for sure.  It's the best album of 2006, so far (early yes)....actually, it's one of the best modern rock albums to be released in a long time.

I maintain what i've always said: IF all the album is as good as "the blues", "madagascar" and "IRS", Chinese Democracy will sell 20 million copies worldwide within 3 years.

I've heard Juicebox and Heart In A Cage. I prefer the latter by a country mile. Is the rest of the album as good? I thought this would be the thread for that answer but all i see on this page is an argument  :D

I'd have to say no, there are those certain good songs, but so far I've found the latter half of the album easily forgettable.

the latter part is where the genius is found, to answer the question above, Juicebox is a great song but its one of the weakest on the album. Heart in a cage is your classic strokes sound.

here my rating of each song on the album, after about 100 listens.


1. You Only Live Once - easily one of the best strokes songs ever, one of the best songs on the album, should be a single. 9/10

2. Juicebox - ferocious, was surprised when I first heard this, good song. 6.5/10

3. Heart in a cage - classic strokes sound, awesome verses. 8/10

4. Razorblade - reminiscent of barry manilow's "mandy", great uplifting song, nice heartfelt lyrics, love julians confusing lyrics, could be a love song . 7.5/10

5. On The Other Side - starts off with a thumping drum beat, followed by julians signature moany lyrics filled with charm, really like this song. 7.5/10

6. Vision of Division - "all that I do, is wait for you" Julian sings, backed by tingly guitar noises, its fucking great, also has one of the best guitar solo's on the album. 7.5/10

7. Ask Me Anything - After listening to this song, its clear the strokes now have the freedom  to do whatever the fuck they want, one of the best songs on the album, musically its very simple, all you have is a chordian thing going on, and some mad flute sounds, Julian is totally defiant on this song. 9.5/10

8. Electricityscape - another classic strokes sounding song, love the thundering guitar. 7/10

9. Killies Lies - I hated this at first, were now well into the second half of the album, and as I said this is the part that makes the album, you cannot fully appreciate this album unless you like these songs, for some reason i kept coming back to them, and the rewards were heavenly. "oh yes i noticed you, you were a friend of mine, killing lies" 7.5/10

10. Fear of Sleep - Another song I hated at first, its quite psychedelic and arty with julian yelling "you're no fun, you're no fun" over and over again. You can really feel it in his voice. 7/10

11. 15 minutes - Julian sounds drunk on this song, it sounds like a pogues song, absoloutely fantastic and haunting, the song continuously reaches a climax with julian singing "it was all just a dream" 8/10

12.  Ize of The World - I cant really say anything about this, other than its the best fucking song on the album, its definitely the climax of the album, superb lyrics, superb melody, a truely magical groundbreaking song. 10/10

13. Evening Sun - time to start slowing things down, a nice sweet pop song, with fitting lyrics "they love you or they hate you"  7/10

14. Red Light - sounds like something that should have been on Room on Fire, another grower, great sonic sounding guitars, love it when julian sings "I was waiting for my baby" 7.5/10


this album is long, and sometimes i find myself feeling tired after listening to it, only because it demands attention, theres so much detail going on, a Classic.

I think i'll download the ones you rated highest first, see what i think

just download the entire album off a torrent site or go buy it!  : ok:

Got the album, finally!

I'm impressed. This band keeps on putting good solid albums. Better lyrics, more polished sound (I'm still trying to figure out if that's a good or bad thing). Overall, I give the album 3.5 stars out of 5.

Best song so far is the first one, You only live once. Should've been the first single.

Ize of the World, and Heart of Change--not to mention when listening to very loud, the intro to Fear of Sleep is pretty killer---are phenomenal songs. 

What blows me away, is that The Strokes are a real band, yet they are either dismissed by some critics as another teen band that was "Here Today, but Gone to Hell" the next second, or not committed like the critics Classic Rock favs.  They are not another quick hitter, and they are very committed (it's obvious on this album) to the songwriting trade.  In fact, of all the new rock bands to come along in the past five years, they are about the only one writing, expanding, and growing as musicians.  Isn't that what is it all about? 

I can't wait to see them live in a few weeks!!!  I've seen them twice, and both times they were dead on musically, and wielded a very classic, enigmatic rock attitude!!! 

lucky to have them?

ever since "Room on Fire" failed to sell tons of copies right out of the box, The Strokes have centered almost all of their attention on Europe

the U.S. got a four city promotional tour for "First Impressions", yeah

hopefully this one sells, I have not had the chance to see them since the end of the "IS THIS IT" tour

really though boston, the US has nothing going for it at the moment musically, bands dont need to make it big over there.