Here Today... Gone To Hell!

""We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done,"

Does that mean that only SIX songs are 100% done or that they just have six songs that are not done yet?

Means 6 are completely finished

1.Chinese Democracy
2.Madagascar
3.The Blues
4.IRS
5.Rhiad
6.There Was Time or Better perhaps?



The reason I know this is u cant have 26 nearly done and not have even started on the other 6.

cause if u havent started on the other 6 then technically they arent songs so therefore they wouldnt even count on the total.


but the 26 nearly done just may need some fine tuning, a little punch in to clean up a mistake here or there.

I disagree.  I took it to mean that 26 songs are in the final stages of recording, while the other songs are in a much earlier stage and far from complete.  But it could really be either or...  :beer:

The first time I read it I took it as they are working on 32 songs and almost 26 are done. Meaning they only have like 6 or so songs left but now I think that could be the other way around.? ?:nervous:

CD,Madagascar, The Blues,IRS



By the rationale u have Genesis, it would mean they dont have any songs finished and they would have to have the songs I mentioned above finished right?


of course I just re read it and I see where u are coming from now Genesis.

So maybe 26 are almost done and the other 6 are in the starting stages??


Yikes.

Maybe CD by Christmas.

Thats how I took it also. I dont think we need to go into panic mode over this. His attitude towards it seems to have changed, and we're lucky he opened up about it, even if the remarks were more spontaneous instead of a calculated response.

That's how I read it, that 26 of the 32 songs are almost finished, with another 6 to complete also.

its good news either way.if""We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done," means that 6 are done but 26 are nearly done then we nearly have 32 full song.and if ""We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done,"
means that 26 are near completed and only 6 nead some attention,then we almost have 26 songs out of which the 13 slated for CD could be in them and the 6 not so finished songs could be already enlisted for a later album which is why theres no hurry to get them ready....ow my head hurts.. :confused:
 

any song writers out there?
is it possible to keep your focus and heart/soul into 26 different songs at once?
do u know what I mean? can u give 100% to working on 26 or 32 different songs at once?

is that how bands usually do it? or do they have a group of potential songs, and then try and finish them up, maybe working on 4-5 at a time?

I'm a songwriter/producer.....you write a song pretty quickly. Maybe some finetuning later on but good songs are written pretty quickly.

The proces of producing is pretty different. You can't work on 26 songs at the same time, but you can work on about 6 at the same time. What they mean is they probably need to do some mixing or maybe alter a solo or something but the 26 songs are 98% done. The other six are still in the process of producing which means they don't know what solo comes under what part and when the orchestra kicks in or maybe they haven't even written the bass-line. So the other 6 are far from completion but th eother 26 are as good as finished, they now exactly what it's gonna sound like but maybe the guitar needs a little more distortion or the drums are a tatbit too loud.

With all these songs do you think this will be the last lot of songs from Gn'R. If Cd is to contain 13 of the best making it as big as if not bigger than (although i doubt it) AFD, then the remaining songs maybe released like the UYL albums were, 2 CD's worth to clear the slate as Slash once said. Clearing the slate for what though.

Is the correct answer........

U cant write 26 songs at the same time but once u get the music,lyrics and all that, u can them skip around from song to song.

I'm not going into any complex expanation, but I see it as this:

26 songs - These are a mixture of finished songs and songs that need a bit of tweaking (remixing, etc)
6 songs - still recording/composing.

This what I would have meant if I spoke those exact words - hence "working on 32".

@#$%Funker

Oh My God.

What mutherfunker said, for now. It's still pretty ambiguous, if not equivocal.

Do you remember around September 2004, both Dizzy and Tommy stated that they heard the final mixes of CD?

FYI,
"It's like, all the stuff I heard was phenomenal. I didn't get a chance to listen to all of it, because I was pressed for time. But also I wanted to hear the things I hadn't heard yet. Some of the stuff had been done a while ago and hadn't changed much; I didn't really bother with that. But I wanted to hear all the new stuff and I heard about six things that I hadn't heard finished yet, that were really mind-blowing. A few of the songs are pretty epic in length, but that's always been GN'R's thing, hasn't it? I don't think it's a particularly long album, but I think the six I heard are pretty epic. I mean they are just... fucking huge, you know [laughs]. " ----------Tommy September 14, 2004

he`s WORKING on 32 SONGS. 26 are nearly finished and 6 are not finished at the moment.......   he isn`t working on the complete songs i guess.....     so i think we still have to wait a bit....

Why should he work on a song which is complete? ???

In a span of ten years, yes.

I remember back in '99 when Axl told Kurt Loder they were working on 70 songs.  With as long as it's taken I'm surprised there aren't more.

I think what most people have glossed over in this interview was that Axl just told RS something (anything), so he could get on with his night of smoking cubans and the finest greens with some other rockers at a party, while getting his cock sucked by some hot dumb bitch or two.

Why? If he kept adding to the total, it would never end. Its only logical that Axl would have narrowed the song total down at some point. : ok:

Or he's concentrating on the first two albums.

sorry   i didn`t make it very clear............... i was referring to this question
i think it`s safe to say that those 6 songs aren`t done, but are still in the recording process... otherwise axl wouldn`t have said that he was working on 32 songs. because he isn`t working on finished songs. :peace:

well, first I thought that 26 songs were as good as done, with 6 to go.
now Im thinking he's finished with 6 and have 26 left...oh lord I hope not, might take another few years.

Well I think he most likely has most of the songs finished,and maybe he re-wrote some of the songs that he had during that interview with Kurt Loader,so most likely he is just working on the songs that he thinks will be the best ones,and ofcourse he probably scrapped some of the songs that he had been working on before and wrote new ones,anyway maybe we'll here the songs soon :beer:

Same here McDuff.


Agreed. And cheers for clarifying.
BTW, their "finishing" might not be exactly what you'd imagine.  see Tommy's "working on an interlude" comment.

ok.

It means that they are currently "working" on 32 songs. None of these 32 songs are complete although 26 are "nearly complete." It doesn't mean that there are only 32 songs. My guess is that the 13 songs for Chinese Democracy are done and completed and Axl was commenting on 32 songs he wants to finish up for the next two follow-ups to Chinese Democracy.

Edit:

I re-read the article and it says that of the thirty-two songs, thirteen are slated for Chinese Democracy. So that pretty much means they have not completed anything.

Exactly. Whatever  happened to "the album is done" or we are doing "finishing touches"? I guess we were all lied to for the last 4+ years.

you guys are nuts over-analyzing interviews and things Axl says. If you had to ask me, it means that out of all the song ideas they've had over the years, they have demos for 32 songs. 26 are at a stage where they're 95% done (maybe adding some minor tweaks) and 6 are probably still raw, but will be finished sometime in the future.

Am I the only one who thinks Madagascar could be one of the songs still in this "raw" stage? The songs pretty good, but I've always thought there was something missing, and cant imagine him releasing it if its in its 2002 form. The musics great, but it needs more lyrics.

I dont dissagree, I think the initial version played, grew from show to show, , but at the end if you listen to its evolution , well I can see great things being done with it .

It means Slash's' comments can be finally put to rest.

Axl's now got six songs with vocals.   :P

Could mean a variety of things..

I think it means 25 are complete and they working to complete #26 now and so on until they finish 32.. or maybe they have a few songs to work on and that'll be 26 done.. and then they'll start on the final 6..

It definately doesn't mean 6 are done and the others aren't. Nobody would word their sentences like that..

mmmmm 26 songs,perfect for two 13 song albums just like uncle axl said,CD 13 songs.then half of the third album is already got its foundation,sounds tastey  :drool:

when i read this in the recent dizzy interview ["Well... I actually thought that there are more... but if Axl says there are 32 then I guess. But what's already in the bank is unbelievable material. There's a lot. There's at least three dozen. There's a shitload of stuff. We've actually been doing stuff... we haven't been sittin' around. There really is a lot of stuff."] i thought,ok,so there working on 32 songs of which 26 are nearly done and 6 are less done.but what if there are other songs which are complete which axl doesnt include in the 32 songs hes workin on.coz if there complete then when he said theres 32 songs were workin on,then that would not of included any completed songs.like dizzy said "But what's already in the bank is unbelievable material"and " I actually thought that there are more than 32".maybe CD is complete and the 32 songs that are being worked on are for the follow up albums which axl is hoping to get finished before he has to release CD.and another thing,the 32 songs could be the next two albums and a few spare songs for bsides etc.

Very Smart interview by uncle AXL. It just keep everyone guessing guessing and guessing.
Welcome to the jungle!!

14 years
32 songs
6 finished....that equals 2.3 years per song
26 in progress?

At this pace, we will see CD in 60 years

Chinese Demecrocy starts 2066

I will be 92

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=4


Hey look at this.  It's an old interview, but some interesting information and may just shed some light on what Axl told RS about the 26 songs nearly complete and how management confirmed to Mysteron that 2 albums are being recorded and how many songs will be on CD when Axl talks about UYI.


PART 2

At last the grisly subject of ?One in a million? is allowed to drop. Axl lights another cigarette, unzips the top from another can of Coke, rubs a tired eye with the back of a thumb, and the conversation drifts towards the next Guns N? Roses album.

A : There?s, like, 37 songs right now, but I know by the end of the record there?ll be 42 to 45, and I want 30 of ?em down.

K : A double album then?

A : Well, a double album but a single 76 mn CD, something like that. Then I want five B-sides - people never listen to B-sides anymore - and that?ll be the back of another EP. We?ll say it?s B-sides, you know, plus there should be four extra songs for an EP, if we pull this off. So that?s the next record and then there?s the live record from the tour. If we do this right, we won?t have to make another album for five years ! (laughs) But it?s not so much like five years to sit on our ass. It?s like, five years to figure out what we?re gonna say next, you know? After the crowd and the people figure out how they?re gonna react to this album.

thats what im sayin.axl has CD done and finished and the rest of the songs axl was talking about are for the follow up albums.which means there are nearly 3 albums worth of material nearly done.this is only my view on things but im convinced that this is how the situation stands.

I agree with you dude :peace:

Definately no shortage of parallels between the recording process for the UYI records, and now Chinese Democracy..and it's successor(s) if they exist.

How many B-sides, or outakes from the UYI albums are available on the net these days anways? If someone has one, send it my way :D

I love the part where he says they wont be sitting on their asses for 5 years, it's gunna be all about what to say next...

Fast forward almost 15 years now and were still waiting to hear what the redhead has too say.. :hihi:

maybe the 3 albums about which axl told the fans at docklands in 2002 were allready finished at that time and now he`s working on the 6th and 7th album after he finished the 4th and 5th in '04, because he wants to tour 8 straight years without the need to go back to the studio....

chinese democracy and it`s successors start now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol... it will be worth the wait :hihi:

Whatever, 26 songs are enough for a full concert. :peace:

it will be something i buy for my great grand kids