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20 Questions with X-Gn'R drummer Steven Adler.

20 Questions w/ X-Guns n' Roses drummer Steven Adler.

Steven Adler back in the day.

What can we say but this was not easy getting to an original member of Guns N' Roses. Sometime back a sweet Sludgette and her friends tried to make this happen at a AA show in person, but the stars were not aligned, and the ducks were all not in a row. A day or two later, a phoner was set up, Steven even answered but got side tracked in less than a minute. So, it didn't happen that time either. But today was different, we're guessing the full moon and the date had something to do with it.

Metal Sludge spent a good part of the day with Adler?s Appetite on the opening date of their World tour. That day happen to be Friday the 13th of January. The band did a few southern California warm up shows and are off to Europe for a solid 2 months of dates. We caught up with guitarist Michael Thomas, bassist Chip Z?Nuff, new front man Sheldon (Chassis) Tarsha and Mr. Steven Adler himself.

We conducted a few different interviews with various members and they were pretty different than most others we?ve done. Too say the guys opened up would be an understatement. ?We asked traditional questions, but some took on a life of their own. It's safe to say we asked Steven upwards of 50 questions.

The following is part I of our long and extensive conversation with Steven. This is only half of what was said, check back next week for part II. We?d like to thank Steven for being so open and candid about the past, the present and the future. Enjoy...

Metal Sludge: Steven let?s talk about the band, past present, and all the Sludge! What happened with that recent stuff surrounding the old band members?

Steven Adler: Hey don?t get me wrong, I?m not too fond of Robbie or Jackass Jizzy, but Keri Kelly, I love Keri Kelly. As a person I love him, a business man he?s great, a player he?s phenomenal, there is no bigger jackass on stage ? and I mean that in a good way.



MS: You mean a ham?



SA: You say ham, I say jackass! Nobody can perform and entertain like him. ?And I want to write songs with him, when I start working on our record.

I wanted to get away from (pauses) because I had a lot, a lot of problems with the other guys. With money, respect, and I wanted, the only reason (pausing) Keri, I had to, you know, let him go on this?. Keri, (pauses) I just wanted to start fresh. And the things that those guys, Robbie and those guys were doing to me behind my back. I don?t think for a second he was a part of it, but I know he knew it was going on. And so, I don?t blame him for nothing.

I just wanted to start it fresh. And I?m glad I did. And I?m glad I got Michael (Thomas) back. He did a European tour with me before and he's great. Chip (Z'Nuff) I?ve known Chip for a while, we?ve played a few times together, and even before I met him, and knew him, just hearing his music and seeing him perform in videos, I wanted to play with him more than anything. And you know who else I want? Is, I want fucking Ronnie Younkins from KIX. I got to play with him for a little bit? I love Ronnie Younkins, he?s the shit!



MS: Let?s do this; we want to ask you some Sludge style questions. This is your chance to plug your dates. You got a European tour coming up, tell us about it?



SA: It?s a dream come true. Basically we?re starting off in Spain, and ending off in Rio Di Janeiro Brazil. Pretty much, fuck yeah. Turkey. Italy, Spain, Germany, Holland, Switzerland, Sweden, Austria, umm, we?re pretty much hitting everything up. We just got back from Argentina, and then we?re going to start off again in Rio (Brazil), Mexico, and Argentina again. I?m doing this because I?m a God damn musician and I love to rock! I told Chuck (AA agent at AWW), I said dude, "I don?t want none of these 2-3 week tours." ?I said, "I want to be on the road at least 300 out of the 365 days. "

MS: ?How does the new AA line up compare to others?


SA: I?m having so much more fun. We are so much more, (pause) we like each other. There are 5 personalities, but we?re all one. We?re all just, (pauses), we love each other. And we play, we work off each other so, I mean so easily. ?We know what the other guy is doing before he does it. And that?s a rare-rare thing to happen, starting right off. ?You know what I mean?


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Adler (far left) in Guns N' Roses during the hey fucking day!


MS: ?Tell us about the earliest memories of GnR, and when did you realize that something really FUCKING huge was happening?
 
SA: Umm?we would rehearse in this studio behind Guitar Center on Sunset Boulevard. But Guitar Center use to be across the street from there in this little purple building. And we lived in this one room, and there was no bathroom, and we wrote the greatest songs, and had the greatest times. And every time we would do a show?(pauses) I always knew it since I was ten years old. Me and Slash grew up with each other, and had known each other since we were eleven years old. I gave him his first guitar, showed him his first chords. That whole Guns n? Roses, that was our dream we dreamed. We ditched school everyday, and all we did was talk about putting a rock n? roll band together. Making a record, traveling around the world, fucking all the girls we can, and our dream came true. And there was never a doubt that we weren?t going to do it or it wasn?t going to happen.

I worked 4 or 5 jobs at the same time because I knew, that?s what paying your dues was. ?If you believe in yourself, and you practice, and I figured if I had one job I?d be paying my dues this quick. I could get to where I want to be in life this fast. If I had two jobs, I could get there twice as fast. I had four jobs going man; I made this shit when I was 18 years old, just like I always knew I would.



MS: What about your last days in GnR. What was it like, the good the bad and the ugly?



SA: It was great until umm... I wanted to get off heroin and, because I just started doing it with the guys. And I didn?t know you got sick. The first day I got sick I called up my manager and I said; ?dude, I don?t what the fuck is going on, but I feel sick.? And (pauses) he took me to this doctor and this doctor gave me an opiate blocker. But you can?t take an opiate blocker when you?re on heroin. And then if you did do heroin, nothing would happen. But you can?t take it until you?re completely off the heroin. And I got completely, so sick, and they wanted to go in and record ?Civil War.? I said: ?Slash dude, I?m so sick I can?t do it right now.? And he said; ?We can?t waste the money, we got to do it now!? I said dude; ?Don?t even tell me about wasting money, we know one other person who is wasting SO much fucking money, we can wait another week.?

MS: What person is that? (everyone laughing)


SA: Who do you think? Axl! And then this. (pauses) It went from being the closest, bestest friends, that, you know, (pauses) that had your back, and knew that you, you had their back, and it was so close (pause) and then the drugs, I, I don?t, we were all doing drugs together, and that ruins the whole thing.  Everybody kind of went on their own little separate way (pauses)
doing their drugs by themselves then. And it just went down, and the love wasn?t there, (pauses) the respect wasn?t there, and it was very sad.

But we were still, so great. The last show I ever played with them was over at Farm Aid. And to this day, I never heard the original version of ?Down on the farm.? I guess some punk band (UK Subs) did it, and we?re on stage and all of
a sudden Axl goes; ?This is a song 'down on a farm.? And I yelled at Duff: ?I go, Duff, Duff, what the fuck is this, how does this go?? And he just clapped his hands and just says; ?just do this (clapping hands) boom, boom, boom.? And that song came out so kick ass, because I knew what Duff was gonna play before he played it.  Yeah, each of us knew what we were gonna do before, we were, each of us were gonna do it. And I mean, if somebody was gonna hit a wrong note, which rarely happened, or something, (pauses) we knew it was gonna happen before. It just was so tight. It was just wonderful, and then for them to just turn on me ? that was pretty much the worst moment.

MS: Let?s do rate a drummer 1-10. 1 being a horrible drummer and 10 being
a really good drummer!

Tommy Lee = Fucking amazing! That guy is sick, anybody who can, I spun on that thingy (rotating drum kit/riser), you know that he use to have in the show. I had to put my feet in the snare drum or they were going right behind my head. And that motherfucker would spin, and kick ass. It?s just amazing! The highest drummer to me in the world, a billion and ten, is Roger Taylor from Queen.

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Tommy Lee with long hair & Adler.


Bobby Blotzer = He doesn?t get as good of recognition as he should, he really does throw a couple good grooves in there. He is really good. He did some great stuff on the records. I?ll give him a, a ten.
Alex Van Halen = Ten Thousand!
Stephen Riley = Oh dude, he?s awesome too. He surprised the hell out of me; I?ll give him a ten.
Neil Peart = Umm?I don?t think the number is high enough.
Vikki Foxx = (Steven talking to Chip) Can I say Vikki Foxx can kiss my ass? Or should I give him a ten? (Chip says something to Steven) Okay, I?ll give him a ten, because he?s got a fucking 13 inch cock!
Carmine Appice = Is God!
Terry Bozzio = Umm?dude he is phenomenal, he?s sick! He?s way; he?s in the Ten thousands too!
Rikki Rocket = He gave a great blow job! (pauses then starts laughing) No I?m kidding! Rikki, he?s one of the best showman, and he can still throw in some cool fills, that fill the song, I?ll give him a TEN!
Matt Sorum = Can kiss my ass. Sorum, I?ll give him a five. Cause he don?t do nothing special. And I have nothing against him because he took my, you know, he was hired to do my job. But, it wasn?t his fault; you know it?s just a gig to him. But he ruined all those songs that I wrote, cause Use Your Illusion, me and Slash and Duff wrote all that fucking shit.

(Editors Note: Stevens answers to these questions were lightning fast. His wit and charisma was very clear and evident. For someone who has admittedly had a serious drug addiction and severe health problems because of this, he has not lost a step.)

MS:  Do you remember filming the video for ?Welcome to the Jungle??

God damn that was so much fun. We filmed that where Robert Kennedy got shot, in the Park Plaza hotel.

(Editors Note: The "Welcome to the Jungle" video was shot August 1st, 1987 at the Park Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles. Hey Hosejob, thanks for doing the dirty work! Fun fact, Heavy Metal Thunder & Mud featuring: Tuff, Wildside, Bill Gazzarri & Jessica Hahn was also shot at the LA Park Plaza Hotel location.)

MS: Do you remember the girl you were sitting on the bed with in that video?

SA: Wait, uuh, Julie! Julie Angel, yeah, yeah, she was wonderful.  Her and this girl named Lisa, I was there roommate. I rented out their laundry room. Oh yeah, I put this futon mattress in there, and I had a TV I put in there, and I had the cable put in, and I had you know, my own little door, they were my roommates. Those were the greatest girls.

Think about this, Guns n? Roses, one of the coolest, biggest bands, and we?re filming ?Welcome to the Jungle? and none of us could find a fucking girl to be in it with us. Nobody could think of a girl. And I go: ?Hey, let?s get Julie man, she?s got a great ass.? She was so fine. I said: ?Let?s call Julie and get her to come over here.? So I call up and say: ?Hey Julie, can you be in this video with us?? And she says: ?Yeah, okay.? And I say: ?We?ll be by to pick you up in 10 minutes.? And that?s why she was in the video. Cause none of us could get, well, obviously I could, cause I got her.

MS: What rock star deserves a big smack in the mouth and why?

SA: Umm?Oh God, I wanna say Axl, I really want to. Yeah, so, not that, (pause) I love Axl, I wanna kiss his face, and slap it, well first I wanna kiss it, then I wanna kick his ass. Umm?God, see, you know?(pausing) I, yeah, there is nobody I wanna slap in the face. There are a couple of people I wouldn?t mind getting a blow job from, but nobody I really wanna slap. (everyone laughing)

MS: Who do you wanna get a blow job from?

SA: (still laughing) I?m just kidding, I just wanna get people thinking.

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Steven thinking about blow jobs?


MS: If you had to join any 80s band from the start besides Gn?R who would it
be and why

SA: Oh God, from the start? Hmmm, I?m trying to think, Hanoi Rocks would?ve been cool. (super long pause) Enuff Z?nuff. (no laughter at all)

MS:  What do you do everyday when you wake up, for the first hour or two?

SA: Umm, I smoke a joint, I jack off if I don?t have a woman with me, umm, well, first I?ll pee, than I?ll jack off. And then just hang around, eat and play with my dogs. And then play my drums whenever I hear a cool song that comes on the Tv.

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The early days of Gn'R. Axl sporting max hair spray!
Steven front and center.

 

MS: Name the 3 high points and the 3 lowest points of your career to date?

SA: Okay, I?ll tell you the best, the best moment in my life, and the worst moments of my life. The best moment of my life was having sex with Stephen Tyler in the back of a tour bus. The worst moment of my life, was when the second time I did heroin was on the last show of the Aerosmith tour, and you know you had those meet n? greet rooms. And, you know I opened up the door and I?m standing there in my rock star pose, all looking all cool and Stephan Tyler is like, 5, 10, 8 feet in front of me, talking with this girl laughing, and he looks up cause he noticed my presence. And he has the biggest smile on his face, and then he could just see in my eyes, that I did heroin, and he made the saddest face and umm? my heart just dropped, and I wanted to die right there.

Because Stephen Tyler is the greatest person in this whole world, and I love him, and there is nobody in the world like him, and I (pauses) hurt his feelings, and it just hurt me so bad. The best and the worst times were with Stephen Tyler. Greatest person in the world, there is nobody cooler, it, there is nobody cooler in any and every way, that person could be in this whole universe.

MS: The epitome of cool?

SA: Yeah, beyond, I mean, nobody comes close! I mean, I?m a cool motherfucker?but I?m on, you know on a scale of 1 to 10, I?m a 10 for a cool motherfucker but he is just peeked, a number like I say, there isn?t even a number for him. The greatest person I ever met. That was really sad that I disappointed him.

MS:  Is the legal stuff with Jizzy, Keri & Robbie for real or is that all talk?

SA: That is just, oh my God, unbelievable! Dude, I have the copyright to my name Adler?s Appetite, in my desk at home, okay. They don?t own jack shit! They?re just jealous because they, (pause) took advantage of me, they ummm?(pause) treated me like shit, they ummm?were, very-very, I mean so disrespectful to me, that they?re jealous, that, and they didn?t think I was, and they thought I was so fucked up, that I wouldn?t be able to put a band together.

They wanted me to cancel the Argentina shit. I said; ?Fuck you!? In two weeks, I had another band put together, which, (pause) are the greatest guys, and the most fun guys to be with, and play with. And they?re just jealous that we?re going on a huge world tour for 3 months and they?re not.



Juciy? Gossip? Wait til you read part II. As Metal Sludge comes outright and asks about Steven liking men, sucking cocks, making love to rock stars, smoking crack, and even some raunchy stuff too.

Steven holds back nothing and blows his load several times.

He shows the sincerest of all sides. A sad side, the mad side, the drug addict side that talks about not sharing heroin when you only have a little left. He also talks about Andy McCoy and his wife, Axl & Erin Everly, Duff and Slash all in depth. The word association alone is an interview in itself.

He really shows his heart and soul. See ya next week...

Metal Sludge
Use Sludge Illusion
Last Updated ( 01/17/06 )


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/jarmo

he?s really degenerate.......  i even kinda feel sorry for him.....  although there?s not much respect left.........

he had sex with steven tyler ?  :o I didn't know they were both gay

I loved how he squashed Sorum

loooooooooooooooool

Adler rocks!

I'm assuming he meant he fucked some girls with Steven Tyler not he fucked steven tyler

I dunno man :rofl:

God Adler is fucked. he sounds like a damn lunatic when he talks about Axl.

Yes, I suppose so too. I have a hard time believing Steven Tyler swings both ways....

this interiew was a bit sad, somehow Adler keeps on living in the past and talking things that are just old. Everyone knows what he has gone through but still get over with it..still anything else old rock stories are great to read but old guns news, for examble about getting sacked from guns, starts to be a bit boring.

you know what John, I was about to post almost the exact same thing.  I am a big Adler fan, he will always be THE drummer for Guns N Roses for me... but it just shows how far he has fallen. 

Instead of looking back on those days with fondness he points the finger at everyone else.  Sure, he says he regrets taking drugs, but he never accepts responsibility for it.  He never says 'yeah I know I would have stayed in that band if I had cleaned up my act, it would have been great'.  Everyone made mistakes back then.  If his story is true, could Slash, Axl, Duff and company have handled it better, of course.  But at the same time, they would not have been in that situation if he hadn't fucked up. 

I always enjoy stories from people who are humble and honest about their past.  He is neither.  By the way he speaks it sounds like he still thinks he is the man because he was in Guns N Roses.  He sounds like he is owed something because of it.  Like he wrote all the material and it was his band.  Then when he talks about getting kicked out or whatever he gets all defensive and points the finger. 

I want to get his book that he has said is going to come out (since like the late 90's if I remember correctly) and I am interested to see what he says.  But if its going to be the same shit that he spouts out in interviews then its going to suck. 

I wish Steven the best and I hope that one day we do get a reunion of some sorts, but for that to have the slightest chance of happening he has got to stop with this blame and finger pointing. 

actually ...now that I think about it, It's not hard for me to imagine Steven Tyler being bisexual. He's always been very feminine.

Adler is a homo.  It even says at the end of the interview that next week he talks about liking men.  What a weirdo but I already knew it.  He talked in one interview that in the 80s he use to suck cock for drugs.  This guy is a loser and how do they get the money to go out and tour.  I heard they were terrible.  Sorum is a much better drummer then Adler.  I think its funny that he hates on Sorum.

He's a loser and he hates Sorum because he realised he's accomplished much more than he did... He was part of one of the greatest bands in the world, he had this great chance and he blew it. He is frustrated and all this stupid anger... that's where it comes from. He actually hates everybody who has anything to do with GnR because they are witnesses of his failure, and while comparing to them, he realises he's a nobody.

so he's a loser if he turns out to be bisexual? real mature attitude there. (I don't really think he is, but anyways.)

I still think Steven is great, and you kinda have to read this interview as if it was spoken, cos it's weird to read all these pauses and mumblings, lol. I still get what he means.
and so what, he talks about the past? WOOW! he gets asked..he answers.
it seems to me he's got nothing but good memories about the GNR days, except from the part where the band turned on him. and hell, any one here would have been fucking raving mad at rest of the band if they were in his situation!
saying stuff like "he had a chance and blew it" sounds pretty stupid to me...he was a part of a band, and a band is supposed to be loyal and have your back if you blow it! not kick you in the ass and turn around. after this happened, other bandmembers started to turn on each other and one person left or got canned after the other. if they had waited for Steve to straighten himself out, they would probably have all been together a lot longer!

can't wait to read the rest, rock on Adler!

I love the Farm Aid story.. man GN'R were brilliant then.

Haha Sorum can kiss my ass.. love it.

No I think he is just a failure all around flunky who turns on everyone.  I so glad Axl kicked him out.  He really has created his own problems.  And he is a loser for sucking guys off for drugs.

Juciy? Gossip? Wait til you read part II. As Metal Sludge comes outright and asks about Steven liking men, sucking cocks, making love to rock stars, smoking crack, and even some raunchy stuff too.

Steven holds back nothing and blows his load several times.

He shows the sincerest of all sides. A sad side, the mad side, the drug addict side that talks about not sharing heroin when you only have a little left. He also talks about Andy McCoy and his wife, Axl & Erin Everly, Duff and Slash all in depth. The word association alone is an interview in itself.

He really shows his heart and soul. See ya next week...

Sounds interesting.

Sorry Scotty.. look Sorum could be the better drummer I don't want to go down that path again.. but Adler is right when he says Sorum ruined the songs. Look at Mr Brownstone.. Sorum lost all the tempo and rhythm of that song live during UYI.

Honestly, I think it's six to one or half a dozen to the other.. they are probably both jackasses.

How scandalous! Adler eff'd Steven Tyler???? Why hasn't the AP picked up this story?

yeah, ok.

Adler didn't have sex with Steven Tyler.. Steven Tyler definately isn't gay... I am sure  they enjoyed some groupies together and it just came out the wrong way.

I still take Stevens drumming to Matt's any day of the week..

I  loved the "Down On The Farm" story!

It says STEPHEN Tyler not Steven... isnt that a girl?

I actually just told my cousin about this... We had hung out with Steven for a few hours last years smokin and drinkin and I guess he told us the story... I was cocked, so I don't recall but my cousin said they were banging groupies and Steven A was filming it and telling Steven T what to do.. I kinda remember but not really...Anyway, he wasn't fucking Steven Tyler...

Stephen or Steven?

Those two are the same name.

adler reminds me of that guy on southpark...... the one with the sticks attatched to his hands... ma ma mer.....etc

They spelled it wrong, They mean steven tyler.

Its hard to think that they made such a big mistake guys... on the other hand, isnt there a person (girl) name Stephen Tyler?

They were talking about steven tyler, not someone else  : ok:

There must be some mistakes... unless Stevie is gay...  :hihi:

Yeah the blonde that interviewed him can't spell, that's the mistake ;)

STOP BASHIN THE GUY!

WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM HERE?

AFTER ALL HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO SPEACK ABOUT EVERYTHING AND HE TELLS THE TRUTH!

STEVEN, I CANT WAIT FOR YOU TO COME TO ARGENTINA AGAIN

YOU ARE ROCK N ROLL MAN!

Man what a fucked up Interview that was, I didnt understand shit, I hope is like Steven and Steven T had sex with girls but both in the same room or something. Other wise is just  :nervous:

Oh I don' t know. I think everything is possible concerning our Stevie here (he has admitted that he and Slash were sucking dicks for money). And it' s not so hard to imagine Steven Tyler being bisexual or at least enjoying some fun with guys every once in a while  :hihi:
But what they' re doing or not doing isn' t any of our concern anyway, so why bother?
I' m not a fan of Steven myself, but I still prefer him miles to Matt Sorum.

You heard wrong, maybe you should actually go see them before you berate their live show.  AA puts on a very entertaining show.  I totally agree with Steve when he said Sorum fucked up the old songs.  AFD songs do not sound as good with Sorum on drums.  Steve's the best.  And if you noticed every other drummer he rates as awesome.  He even had nice things to say about Rikki Rocket.  Steve's a good guy.

i always hated sorum's take on gn'r songs.
he killed brownstone's Groove!
good thing he didn't play think about you. sorum has no groove. he's a solid player. but i'll take steven any given day

Right one, MeanBone...Sorum is an ok player, but Steve had that groove.  I was trying to look for the right word, and I think groove is it.  Steve's drumming had a really nice flow, something Matt's really never had.  Steve's drumming makes you wanna dance, Matt's doesn't usually do that.  Its more drumming to bang your head to than to dance to.

Oh I don' t know. I think everything is possible concerning our Stevie here (he has admitted that he and Slash were sucking dicks for money).

Are you sure about Slash sucking dick?  I thought it was only Steven.  Does anyone have that interview when Steven admits sucking dick?  Steven is a pathetic loser.  You kind of feel sorry for the guy but when you look at it, he did it all himself.  He blames GNR for getting him hooked on drugs. 

Steven Rocks like it or not my friends...

exactly. Matt is a great drummer. technically very skilled as well, in that category even better than adler.
i saw matt live, and i met him and he was great, as a person and as a drummer. he really impressed me live. and i always thought great of him. and even in gn'r he had great moments. like the Double Pedal on Nightrain's solo. and other stuff.
but steven was always a rock n roll drummer. matt was more of a heavy rock/ Metal even! he punds those drums so hard it's bound to be heavy. and to be honest... Steven was a lot more fun.
as you said steven made you wanna dance. u don't dance to Matt's playing. it's not good old fashioned rock n roll. it's something else. Gn'r was a totally different band with matt.
one good thing is Brain has groove. he has the technical skills of matt. even more and the groove of a steven adler. Brain is a great drummer

Yep Brain is great...  :drool:


Wasnt Brain the guy who wrote the song for South park with Primus?

"Wha!? A-aa-are you sure Slash sucked dick!? YOUR A LIAR! SLASH WOULD NEVER HES MY HERO!

Plus even if he did.. who cares?

Adlers still fucking lame though."

Im sure thats what you would say should the interview come up. You just give yourself excuses to hate Adler...

I still dont get the Idea of hating a guy that had done a great job in GNR history, yet people think that he's a loser a pathetic lost case, well at least he's not posting in message board in the end of the night  :confused:  :nervous:
Anyway I 'd take stevie drumming every day than Matt's, i dont know the vibe that Stevie had to make a song feels like rock n roll was just great, or else read the the views of our own Dead Horse concert in Adlers Appetite

That' s what Steven said if I remember correctly. And another poster in this thread has already mentioned it before me. Still, I think you should take everything Steven says with a grain of salt, he talks a lot of shit sometimes.
But does it really matter? Would Slash be a "pathetic loser" as well then to you?

OK,  people have right in thinking differently from one another...
Yet,   Steven Adler is only poor pathetic whiny bitch,   independant of his sexual preferences!
I am really sick and tired of people like him and plenty others on this board who bash the guys who made Illusions + the tour possible.
I am really glad Steven was kicked out cause his drumming sounded like kids hitting a metal garbage bin.
Not only is Matt far better drummer who achived much more in his life than Adler,  but he recorded more albums with GNR and made one of the biggest rock tours + records possible and is therefore considered by me the GNR drummer.
Steven is not only pathetic,  but also an shelfish basterd who put GNR future t risk by his will no to end his drug habits.
Sad!   Sad is also the fact that he now complains about nostalgia and friendships but he never did anything to save that cause the drugs made him feel so good!
His insanity can also be seen when he published that fake book where he tried cleaning himself by accusing others of different things (eg.  Slash,  Duff,  Axl),   but now he cries again and claims he is glad that Slash is his friend again.
No,  the rest of the band weren't malehookers,  although Adler claimed so in his cheap book,  he later apologized for that crap.
Steven,  fuck off for once and for all and take your few hooker friends with you!

steven is a joke imo......   i have to admit i love the "groove" he added to gnr`s songs. i always felt matt ruined the illusions with his drumming, but it`s cool for some part.... estranged for example or novem,ber rain. but there`s no excuse for his look in 91-92....  in 93 he was cool imo : ok:

and about steven:
  comments like the one he made about him writing the illusions` songs with slash and duff keep me from liking him. i do think there`s a reason he only got 5% of the money from appetite.... and as far as i no nothing from the illusions.

by the way brain`s cool :peace:

brain is good but not the right choice for guns,.,.he doesn t even like the songs. matt is ok i love the guy, but steven has something special... listen the tracks of lies that where in live like a suicide you will know what im talkin about

What book did Steven Adler write?  I never heard of it.  Who did he accuse in the band besides Slash of being a male hooker?  I do not know why people hate Sorum so much.  I think he is a good drummer. If Adler was better then he would be with a good band instead of a stupid cover band.  Sorum is with VR and that says enough.

I heard Steven and Izzy recorded together.  Anyplace I can download those songs?

I'll take steven's drumming over matt's anyday, he really has got that groove and matt well he's boring IMO, and about slash sucking dick?, that's just BS

I think poor old stevie will be the next Ozzy Osbourne without the fame and the money achievement  :-\

yep he was!
Brain is an incredible drummer, and I think he'll fit like a glove with the new GNR stuff!

and btw, most of the UYI was written with Steven on drums. so Matt didn't write many drumparts for the album, he just kinda played Stevens stuff in his own way.

and reason he only got 5% (actually 15%) of AFD is cos GNR had a fucked up way of splitting royalties, and not considering drumparts as a part of the songwriting. they only counted lyrics and melody as songwriting, even though the drumparts for each song were quite clearly written too..
and as you may know, writing melodies on drums is not exacly an easy thing, if not to say impossible!

what I see from my viewpoint as a drummer myself, is that I put a lot more work into my parts than the other guys in the band does. IMO, drummers doesn't even get 1/4 of the respect they deserve for their work (dammit, hehe)!

Great drumarrangements for a song can make the song stick out.. and a great groove can lift the song.

Steven has a great groove.. he can lift the song. Also his drumarrangements for AFD (and the EP) are not the same old beats over and over again, they're completely focussed on the song. Matt is technically much better but his timing is so perfect it's like a drummachine. It's boring. And he uses the same old beat every time.. like on Come On, Come In for example.

Matt said a while ago that Steven has a punkrock kind of sound and attitude and he doesn't cause he doesn't like punkrock. He said it when VR edited a magazine a while ago and Matt choose his top whatever drummers.

so Steven was in Matt's top whatever drummers list? lol
he doesn't sound much like punk to me really, maybe a tiny bit like old school punk such as the Pistols.
IMO he's got a loose rock-style.
Matt is better than Steve technically, but I don't think he's much better.
they do have very different styles, Steven's got a groove-based rock style and Matt has a precision-based rock/metal style.

Man your post stinks of pure ignorance. Have you cared to read all the sides of what happened when Steven got fired? Did you know what other members have said about it? That it was stupid and it made no sense! And I'm not making this up, here you have the quotes:








And what fake book are you talking about? More ignorance ::) Steven's book hasn't been published by now, so why do you talk as if you knew what is on it? And he has NEVER said shit like other people of the band were malehookers, in fact he said there will not be dirty laundry in the book!

So don't you like Steven? Fine. But why are you saying all these lies about him?! :rant:

Part II of the Steven Adler interview is now up on Metal Sludge.

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1138&Itemid=1



/jarmo

Well that was an interesting read...

just read the whole itw.

the thing is : Steven is right on everything.
the guys abandoned him with his addiction.

they're ALL junkies except Axl.
they just acted like assholes.
that's the truth.

i'm not a particular fan of steven, or any other of the guys, i mean i love all of them.

some of you says he's a junkie, a gay, well, who cares ?
do you say Duff was an alcoholic with the same contempt ?
do yo say Slash was a junkie too ?

AGAIN, it's Izzy the most clever gunner, the guy who have the sharpest analysis
on the band in my opinion, reading the quotes posted by ReinaMora (thx to u).

and, Steven is alive. what about if he died after being fired for a fault every other member have made too ?
they never helped him if i'm correct.

jesus christ.... Steven is insane.  I think it is becoming more and more clear that the guy has some serious issues.  The way he speaks in his interviews just makes him sound so immature.  It is like he has not grown up since 1990.  I have always been a big fan of Steven, but I gotta say this interview is starting to make me think otherwise.

There will never be a reunion show with Steven Adler playing drums.  IF it ever happens it will be Matt Sorum.  And at this point, I don't blame Slash, Duff, and Scott with letting Sorum play drums for Velvet Revolver.  Adler is a true nutcase.  Just look at a quote from Part III of the interview "Umm, I smoked a little rock about 2 months ago." .  The guy is a fucking crack addict now.  All the bullshit he has ever said about being clean, it was all lies.  And I was stupid enough to believe it.

I am calling it now... Steven Adler will be dead within 2 years.  He has done too much to his body over the years and he continues to use drugs probably on a daily basis.  I hope I get to see him play before then, but I am not counting on it. 

Well I think it is a great interview.? Those of you who criticise Steven for what he says, the guy is honest and says what he thinks, which makes a nice change from musicians who say what they think is cool.? The interesting thing is, that most of you who abuse Steven and say he is a whinger, etc, seem to forget that Steven is only answering questions asked by a journalist - so maybe your hatred should be directed towards Metal Sludge for repeatedly asking the same questions about Axl, Matt, reunion etc.?

Oh and War 41 - chill out until you have read Part 3 - you may find that the comment was taken out of context.? It could be that Steven was joking around when he said it and Metal Sludge posted it to getting people talking and also to read part three.

Adler is certainly happy to spill the beans. He doesn't really seem like he's with the program at all.

Yeah wait until Part III. I just hope that stuff about the drugs and I think I saw something about giving blow jobs is taken out of context!

I don't know the name.
Just remember the guys sued him for saying
a)    they all worked as hooker in LA (which the rest of the band didn't do)
b)    Slash and Axl worked as teste bunnies for new inventions (don't know about that one).

The last time I heard about that was back in '96 or so.
It said that Adler admited that stuff wasn't true,  he apologized and paid them some money or something...

You mean Slash,  Duff and Matt let Scott in  ;)

Adler,  is that you or one of the hookers!? :crying:

yeah metal sludge!!!   you got an interview with STEVEN ADLER!!! he?s talking about suckin dicks for drugs and how he?s smokin a joint every morning : ok:  definitely better than an axl interview where he?s talkin about CD :peace:    fuckin losers!!!

That's all you can say as a reply? Wow I'm impressed.

Man you're heavily dissinformed. Again, Steven's book hasn't been published and he never said such shit. So no, the other guys didn't sue him for what he said in the book (the not published book!!) and he didn't apologize or paid them money because THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

duffsgal you are right, maybe I should just wait for part 3.  Metal Sludge isnt exactly Time Magazine and I could definitely see them taking quotes out of context. 

What I dont understand, however, is why you think a guy that says the first thing that comes into his head is admirable.  If people did that the world would be in trouble.  All of the rest of the guys actually think about what they are going to say and then say it.  They dont spurt out words and hope that they come together to form a sentence that can be comprehended. 

Also he is not just answering questions from a journalist.  I never saw Metal Sludge ever ask the question 'hey Steven, do you like sucking cocks?' or 'hey Steven, why do you always talk about sucking cock?'  He comes right out and says it without any prodding.  At this point, its kind of creepy.  The guy is around 40 years old and I am not really sure from his interview you can tell whether or not he is joking.  He is just a really immature guy and to me it seems obvious (from the Adler's Appetite situation) that he would not be able to play in any major band right now.  He plays in a glorifed cover band and his bandmates still didn't like him. 

Steve,  you already mentioned in the interview that you don't remember anything between 92 - 99,  therefore,  I am not surprised.
Nevertheless,    internet is a great thing I am sure that you can find some info here : ok:
Media sometimes writes shit but then has to pa for that.
German media closely followed the case,  therefore,  I am sure it is true but it is obviously the part of your life you can't remember...
Obviously,   you don' t remember Slash,  Axl and Duff suing for that book and receiving the money either ???

Oh god hes so STUPID. Hes always wishing for a reunion or something like that, YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT LIKE THAT. He want's to say everyones a fucking dickhead, instead hes talking between the lines like a coward. just a DOUBLE TALKIN' JIVE MOTHERFUCKER.

Emotions ripped, gone on a binge
Life lipped, I said you're off the hinge
Tellin' lies of such fame and glory
I don't even wanna hear your story

ha ha I'm not Steven dude and no one here but you has heard about that!! Isn't that strange? ::)

Yep Internet is a great source of information but the fact is you have NOTHING to back your lies

I'd like to take the chance to shit on Metal Sludge for a moment.? They are (and have always been) fucking assholes.? A couple of years ago, they posted some "rock star poster boys who look like shit now" list, and guess who one of those guys was?? Yep, none other than Steven Adler.? They further said "Steven sucked so much dick and did so much crack that he looks like shit now".? They even insulted Steven's fans when they protested his inclusion, by calling them "stupid".

Now loookie here what's going on, Metal Sludge is kissing Steven's ass now that he's giving them a juicy interview.

Fucking two faced shit-talking bastards, that's what Metal Sludge has always been.? And they stuck their little dig at Axl at the end.? Haha, I bet if Axl called them tomorrow and gave them a juicy scoop, they'd be sucking his fucking dick to get it.



Smoking crack is stupid on Steven's part.? ?but if you think "smoking a little rock 2 months ago" makes you a fucking crack addict, then you are a fucking crack addict.

oh yeah.... well... uhhhh well if you think I am crack addict then you must be a fucking crack addict because only a crack addict would think that I am a crack addict.   ::)

Ya know awhile back I really would have said I always felt bad for Steven. But in the past few years with his recent return everytime I read him in the press he comes off as either a moron, a liar, or a baby. First off I hate reading him say stuff about how he deserves jhis royalties when I have never seen evidence of him having written anything. He claims he, slash, and duff wrote all of the illusions in interviews. Then how come he has never written anything since? Axl claimed he didn't deserve any of his credit on appetite either. And the comment about having gay sex with steven tyler is pathetic. I am not even going to argue whether or not it's true because how the fuck am I to know what either of them like to do I can only guess. But whether it's true or not the whole thing is a rather sad attempt by Adler to get some press and attention for his band. He was probably hoping that steven tylers fame and such a comment would garner alot more attention than it has. Gladly I am guessing the media know better than to listen to a washed up junkie who never got over being out of the spotlight 15 years ago. And while I do think matt can be a baby too by some interviews I ahve seen anyone who says he is a bad drummer is being ignorant. He may not be your favorite, by he is by no means bad and steven chooses to act like a baby. He doesn't want to talk too much shit about slash or duff (ya know people who actually had something to do with him being kicked out) so he takes it out on matt who had zero to do with it. I never thought I would say this about any member of gnr but I think I just want steven to go away. then again I could just stop reading his crap. oh well.

Well in all honestly it doesnt matter whether anyone likes Steven or Matt better because if there is a reunion, none of us will get a say in the lineup.

Oh and Croatia GNR, if you cant back up your bullshit with actual articles about this alleged book and lawsuit, then dont bother posting about it.? ?

Everyone of the members made have made the same mistake of doing drugs but the difference is that they were able to perform while on drugs.  Steven was not.  He deserved to get kicked off.

i just cant fuckin believe how after reading what slash duff and izzy said about kickin steven out you still think he deserve it...

and i also think that steven should play ilusion material on AA concerts, so everyone would shut the fuck up about he being bad playing drums like that starfucker axl has in his band as a keyboard player.

Part III of the interview: http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1139&Itemid=52

I totally agree with you man... and damn I cant stand that star"fucker" Reed.

At least Dizzy isnt a crack head like adler. And yes he is still a crack head as evident from him firing his entire band in europe and him smoking crack on stage at a show a few months ago...

Oh man this is pointless, the next thing is gonna be that Steven is the worst person in the world for doing drugs and yet the whole fucking band did, whats the big deal? get over it

Well man, I dont know what Adler did or didnt do, but i respect the guy cause he is honest, and Dizzy Reed seems more like an Axl's servant... even when he pretends to be a cool calm guy...

STEVEN ADLER IS PATHETIC!  :peace:

Pepe  should be banned from the Steven Adler's thread.... nah just kidding Pepe!  :hihi:  :peace:

half the board here already acts like he is...just look at this Pepe fella.

Yes, he is..
I feel sorry for the guy, he was doing just good, gettin attention again, when he first launch his new band, what was the name ?... I don't remember, but I thought: well, the guy is finally doing something with his life, leaving GNR in the past and looking forward, then he re-named the band as Adler's Apettite... and after reading interviews I saw he is still witing for Axl to call him to reunite Guns... at least he looks clean, now... the part III of the Sludge? Interview is sad, what an asshole and the man from the website was laughin' after him.

Poor guy. Now he's calling a cover band to replace his bandmates in his cover band.

Pathetic

Look,  unlike you,  my level of communication doesn't allow me to call anyone' posting bullshit nor anyone here any dumbass.
Obviously,  your level of communoication is very low and so are your manners.
I don't normaly communicate with such people and there,  haven't written about Adler's crappy book for you but for the person asking about it : ok:
I am not here to supply you with some info  and to go through the net just so you could have some evidance.
I know you can't use PC cause in that case you would see that in the third part of Adlers interview the BOOK DOES get mentioned.
Actually,  other than playing around with that insect harrasing me,  ask someone to enroll you in some primary school.
England is a big country and they have plenty of thoose there.
After a while,  you'll know enough letters to find information that interests you without being ignorant or relying on other peoples help. : ok:

kind of a messy posting there GNR-CROATIA, Steven's book has not been released yet dude...and you can also read in the interview that this story you talked about was not mentioned in his book.

clarification. as far as I know, he has written the book, but it hasn't been released yet.

Edit: Im also pretty sure that the other original GN'R members never sued Steven about anything that's supposed to be in his book...I think you have a lively imagination. : ok:

ok guys.. i know that someimes im bitter when talkin about steven.. now i wont talk shit about him.. but look at him, for the first time in 15 years he was doing something good, but he screwed up one more time... is real that he has some seriuos issues, this the erd or 4th adlers appetite line-up,and all their bandmates that have toured with him says that he isnt a nomral person... he is problematic, now i really feel sorry for him, he is  in drugs one more time, when i was reading the 3rd part of the interview and he is talkin about smokin crack and is so sad how he talks about his priorities and drugs after everything he went through... now i just wish him the best...

Look, ?belive in what you want, ?I am ?not here to justify myself.
I remember that there were suing threats going on between him and the rest.
The book does exsist although, ?I admit, ?not sure wheather or not it was published.
I don't understand how could it be 'imaginary' when the book (again) comes up in the interview, ?but you obviously are a very sarcastic boy who thinks that the book mentoned is imaginary so I'll leave you chasing ghosts.
Finally, ? for everyone else who would like to continue this crap about crappy Adler and his crappy book.

a) ? I don't give a damn about Adler and have considered him waste of time even at the time when he was in GNR

b) ? I was always happy with Matt replacing him cause I do consider Matt a great drummer.

c) ? I am not Adler. ?If you want more info on that book, go and bug him.

d) ? When I give info on the board, ?I give info I know to the people who are interested and who ask for it.
 ? ? ?I don't give so that Mr. Give me drugs and I'll give you blow job Adler logs in and herrases me here with 3 threads ? ?in ?the row. ?(Funny how the only three things he has written here ever was a confrotation with me.).

e) ? I don't give a damn about his book either and would not read it even if I would get it for free.

f) ? ?the book obviously exists in some form cause it gets MENTIONED

I go with pepe on this one, but once again, lets move on  : ok:

Exactly!! : ok:

I believe in Steven Fucking Popcorn Adler, damn! Give him a change!!!

GNR - CROATIA the only reason you are always hating on steven is because you completely idolize Matt as is apparent in almost all of your posts....and another thing, If you couldn't care less about steven or about what he has say, then why even bother to post in this thread? :no:

I dont know how anyone could possibly believe in a guy who is constantly on drugs and fires his bandmembers left right and center. He even fires his entire band the first week of his tour!

Hey Drunk Fux, Reina, DuffsGal, Cat, Jack-You-Ass, ILoveStevenAdler, DaBrookMan and all you other "Rabid" fans over at StevenAdler.Net -

This is the Real Jonni B -  First, I am not CABR, but keep on trying.  You also have me confused with one of his other ex-girlfriends and the only disease I may have gotten from him would be a STD.  I have been banned from your Board, so I haven't been able to respond to the bullshit you have chosen to guess and write about me.   Guess my facts were a little too true?. . , hit a little too close to home. . . oh, yeah, right, Steven just fired his band, again?  Dare I say it?. . . "I told you so!"  Who's the fucking drama queen??? 

Steven uses people.  He is a liar.  He has no money so he steals, that's right he stole from me and my son. He and his brother wrecked my car, broke into my house and trashed it, and I had my 7 year old son living with me.  Yeah, Steven's a great guy.  Week after week he pawned my stuff and told me we had been robbed.  He is physically abusive to everyone, including women, I do believe you read his MetalSludge interview re: women talking too much, taping their mouths shut?  He went to jail because he beat up four different women over a several year period. 

Steven is a horrible human being that does not deserve to be idolized - the writing is one the wall, in his own unintelligible words - get fucking over it!!! 

I think her real name is jessica  :P
Anyway on topic, love, hate, anger, support, I think the guy is on a very tough phase, but he ask for it, I think the best thing for him is seek help and face up that he is way too much in trouble.
And pugdog1987 are you sure about that?, not that I dont belive you but I found hard to believe that you havent done anything like a sued steven if you have the truth on your side dont you think?

Oh my fucking god!!! How about Adler's "I'm sure I'm not the only one it's happened to" - well it certainly hasn't happened to me!! I cannot believe Adler would admit to all of this!!



SA:  So, you know Slash, I lived on Hayworth, North Hayworth, and Slash lived on Sweetzer. So there was a couple times I?d walk down the street and I got a blow job from some guy. I was thirteen years old, I use to walk around with a fucking hard-on, and you know 24 hours a day. And I, was, you know you?re a teenager, and you?re not getting girls doing it. And so I was partying with somebody, and I got a blow job. I was thirteen years old, I was, WHAT! I?m
the only one?

(Steven now becomes a little bit defensive)

MS: No, but we?re just asking because you?ve been pretty open about it?

SA: No, I know, but for the people reading this, that, if, people say, oh well that never happened to me or I never thought that, or blah, blah, blah, you know they?re fucking full of SHIT! Cause I?m not the only person who ever walked down the street and smoked a joint at 12, 13 years old, smoked a joint with someone and all of a sudden I?m getting a blow job from the guy. Okay, it?s not something I was looking for, it just happened ? I was a teenager growing up. There?s nothing wrong with it. You know, and I?m pretty sure I?m not the only one who?s ever had that happen to.


MS: So when you do drugs, like rock, you say that it makes you horny?

SA: Yeah, well it makes, the first, it hits you, and then goes right to your balls and cock dude. Good stuff, good stuff. But, but if you?re by yourself, you?re doing a lot of jacking off. So, its best being with a chick that wants to party
too with you, cause than you can do the fuckin?.  Because you jack off too much, and it?s just not good you know.



(Note: Jacking off is not good? How about the smoking of crack? We're guessing that might be a little bit worse than the J/O part. But who are
we to judge, let's move along, shall we?)

MS: This wasn?t going to be one of the questions, but since you?ve been
so open?

SA: Come on dude, be real, I?m not, I?m a realistic person. This is nothing I made up, I mean, or came up with, I didn?t invent this shit. I mean, if I?m
doing it, and the ten million people who do this shit too, what and they?re
not doing it?


MS: So, you obviously love woman but you?re kind of admitting?

 

SA: I love woman. Dude, I was 13 years old, I couldn?t get a woman to
suck my dick.

MS: But you said during this interview, that somebody sucked a good cock,
are you being serious or joking?

SA: Oh, I was just joking. You guys, I said, Rikki Rocket, I was just joking.
I know Rikki, This is just a joke.


MS: Let?s ask this. Did you ever meet a man, that you were with, that you thought you?d like to do something with him, or said to yourself; I?m turned
on, or we?re both smoking crack together, so let?s suck each other off?"

SA: (pauses) You know, not in, not in a lot of years. You know, not, (pauses) like the young teens, you know what, no, but, in the younger teenage years I was all; ?yeah I wouldn?t mind if this guy sucked my cock!?

Sure as hell never happened to me either. I dont know what kind of world adler grew up in where straight guys went around getting other guys to give them blow jobs.  :hihi: :hihi:

Adler needs therapy.  :hihi:

I'm stunned! What more can I say.. It seems that every other person is like asshole or cool motherfucker as Steven stated. And then again, I don't know how, but somewhere it all turns up side down --> the cool motherfucker is now the biggest asshole but Steven loves him/her and the asshole is now the biggest motherfucker in the earth.. I got it confused in the early part of interview..

druggos are weird, adler is weird. This is so sad. Sounds like nothin has changed since 1990.

like tommy lee said in the motley crue behind the music a lost of times:

THIS IS NOT GOOD

my god steven is out of control, im being a junkie can understand this behaviour but this is goin to far again.

steven im your biggest fan but man, c?mon sometimes you need to see what is happenin around you you have a great band i saw you here in argentina, you fukin rock!

if you do this for your fans, don?t disapoint them and rock the world loke you were doing

Adler's interviews rule.
Most likely  because no PR person has ever taught him how to do that stuff. Or, much more likely possibility, he has forgotten all about it.He follows no dress codes, so to speak. Always high and/or drunk,says the 1st thing that pops in the ruins of his mind,  never stopping to think " err, should i say this outloud" for one second.
Even when he lies, he is a lot  more honest than 99% of rockstars out there.
It's always very honest straight from the heart - stuff.Never a single boring premade bullshit answer.
Propably every single journalist who has read his interviews has realized this also and figured gazillion ways to push Adler towards juicier and juicier remarks.

It's a shame he is such a mess. Burned out decades ago, out of touch with reality,addicted as hell, living in his own made believe world.

Why dont they just make Steven Adler as a character to South Park  :D

Grouse,   to answer your question you could look up my first post.
The reason I posted on this thread despite the fact I don't like Adler (just like 95% people posting on this thread,  judging by the comments), is because of - freedom of speach.
I mean hardly anyone likes Adler these days,  but what?   I am  gonna stop collecting bootlegs from that era just cause he was there!?    One guy doesn't make a band and despite the fact I prefered UYI tour line up (and UYI albums,  unlike most of the people here),   I am not gonna like the band less.   I have been their fan when they were on the top,  had a collection of over
200 posters and to me they sounded better with Matt (I have never hidden my respect for Matt and Gilby).
One can like or dislike any band member,  but they all made up THE band.
Matt had results everywhere he played.    GNR,  Neurotic  Outsiders,  VR,  even CULT had their biggest time while Matt was around,   so one must definatelly admit he is anm great drummer despite likeing him or not.
Adler on the other hand is/was dead musical wise eversince GNR days.
Finally,  yes,  I do prefer 'harder' drummers like Matt,  Bonham,  Grohl...

and the final point is that IF a reunion would happen someday (and steven is alive and playing  :yes:]).... im sure the wont call steven, they will call Matt...

Alive or not I think after all of these events, the ex gunners will be calling Matt  :no:
No that I dont like Matt, but who knows I just want the original lineup  :-\

Hey Mr. Dick Purple -

No point in suing Adler, he's judgment proof - that means he has no money and if he gets any he hides it under his mother's name.  Anyway, he was prosecuted criminally - I was just the second woman he beat up, there were two more after me, and after the fourth is when he went to jail - I'm sure you've heard him whining all about that, blaming everyone else, as usual.   

Also, you guys keep talking about an intervention - Steven has had many, one that I set up that his family would not participate in.  This guy is so sick and in so much denial it is highly unlikely that he will ever stay clean.  He has been in and out of rehab so many times that he brags about it. 

I wish I could feel sorry for him, but those days are over, now I just feel like "what goes around comes around" and he has to live in the hell that he created.  Karma is a bitch!!!

That's truth !
At least Matt would have more options... If is not Matt, maybe they would call another one or even use Brain.
But never Steven.. not in a milllion years

yeah in a reunion is more likely that will have john bonham than steven.. is the truth

Pepe who else do you have besides Stevie?

Dude, haven't you read his posts?  he hates anybody who isn't an Axl lap boy. 

yes pepe is fuck up in a bad way.,.

Off topic insults are against the rules.

Why do I have to keep reminding people of this?




/jarmo

Stop reminding people,and start banning!
People know the rules!
I know I don't post alot,but I still read this forum,and there's been alot of badmouthing on here lately,which is to bad,because this is the best GN'R board out there.Let's keep it that way by beeing civil to eachother.
I don't always agree with people,but if I don't have anything to say besides fuck you,eat shit or whatever, then I keep my mouth shut and move one to another topic,website or I actually go to see other people in real life. ??? :nervous: :confused: I know it's shocking,but it's true,and I think it would do a few people in here ALOT of good!

Progress the only problem is that sometimes we say some bad words or curse without meaning it... just kidding...  : ok:

im not insulting anyone... i just say what i think, is not an insult, and YOU know is true taht in a REAL reunion they will NEVER ask steven to join them...

Pepe, you  may be wrong or maybe be right... who knows Pepe Lepu :)

Thats really sad to hear, I hope as you said Karma's bitch

Sorry,  its kinda hard for me to idolize women beating,  people using,   drgu scumbag... : ok:

Correct!  If GNR reunites it will be with Mat Sorum on drums 100%  The problem is that Axl hates Steven and Matt hates Axl, so it's going to be interesting.

Are we talking about axl or steven?  :nervous:

Dude, that's almost 8 beers.

Don't know.  Let you decide... : :yes:

I'll take my chances on Stevie boy  :hihi:
For all I've read I would say Steven needs serious help and I think any one from GNR needs to talk to him, I hope that help something cause Steve is going way down to suicide path  :-\

i didn`t know this.... is there a source for that?

well, you know they don't have time for 60 takes live eh...

no i meant that axl hates matt and the other way round..... if there`s a source for that.

and well.... if steven plays with adler`s appetite, why not with gnr.... : ok:

oh sorry i forgot, he isn`t even playing with AA at the moment :hihi:

it would be really cool to have mr. freeze on the drums, i've heard he can play!!

other than that i don't really give a fuck about who's playin drums, but my guess is that we'll see brain and the new lineup as we know it.

i guess it would be more exciting to have adler on the drums than matt tho, with matt you know exactly what you get, but adler could really put the "danger" back in the band!!! :hihi: