Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://www.zdlr.net/board/index.php?s=6622ead7c45b9d8c0660c3ec66373f4f&showtopic=13036

A quote from the linked thread ....

Hi. I normally do not post on message boards, but after lurking around here for a bit , I thought this may be of interest to most of you on this board. I am involved in marketing, and at a recent company party I attended I ran into a girl I went to college with but have not seen in almost six years. Anyway, we got to talking and she works as an editorial assistant over at Rolling Stone magazine. During conversation the topic of what "projects" were ahead for us in the New Year came up. She told me that Rolling Stone magazine had just booked Zack de la Rocha AND Axl Rose to appear together on the cover of their "Spring/Summer" preview issue, which will be coming out in March. It is an annual issue Rolling Stone does, and they usually jam pack it with interviews, previews, teasers, etc.
Being a big fan of Zack/Rage Against The Machine, I was very excited to hear this news and asked her some questions. She said she did not know any specifics, but both long awaited albums from Zack and Axl's new version of his band are set for an early summer release and that there will be a 1-2 page story on each singer talking about their albums. She said that Zack will be interviewed first sometime in the next few weeks, and Axl was going to be interviewed sometime in the middle of February. She said a photo shoot (Zack and Axl will be shot together) is scheduled for the end of February in Los Angeles but a photographer is still being negotiated on. She was and still is a huge music fan, so it was great to talk to her about some of the music out these days. Anyway, just thought this may be of interest to some of you on here. Can't wait to hear Zack's new album! And that Axl album may be an interesting listen too! Cheese!

Although I can't see it happening(because zack and axl have thing sin common with a new release,it makes me think this is fake)but it would be very cool if it did actually happen,and I would buy more than one copy of it,as that would mean a release is on the way.

3 years ago, Brian Wilson would have been mentioned as well.

This is so fake.

i mean whether it happens or not, this is nothing new.  axl gave rs an interview and preview tracks in 99 along with the release of omg on the end of days soundtrack, so fast foward 7 years = rs interview, song on movie soundtrack.  still no CD.

who knows...but it sounds promising...i really hope this is the yr....the next month or 2 we will know a lot regarding the album....

de la rocha is a fucking savage, together with axl, holy fuck that'd be awesome

It could  be legit esp since Axl is the side note in this and its more about Zack.

its probably fake though. Its easy to pull this stuff off because of what Slash recently said and the Axl sighting.


maybe but i doubt it...Axl being the sidenote makes me think even more its fake. any1 could have gone on that board and typed that story. Axl being the sidenote doesnt add much to it in terms of legitimacy. And its funny how its always running into a friend. the only thing that sounds kinda legit is the photographer search...but who knows...

what i know is that if the album is coming out by spring we will get news sometime in feb or march...

Come on.  After waiting this long to release CD, there's no way in hell Axl will be sharing the spotlight with anyone.  Why would he?  It's not like RATM got anywhere near the level of Guns anyway.

well we will know come march

maybe axl like zack , who knows.

KOOL I LOVE IT , good rumor !

I don't know and don't really care if it is true or not.? However, the only reason Axl comes across as a sidenote, is because the person who wrote this is a bigger fan of Zack.? If it's true, Rolling Stone won't make Axl a sidenote.

Interesting find, Saul. : ok: But I dont believe it. Here's why. Every time some small tidbit of info about Axl comes out, or even just a fucking pic, people start spreading rumours very similar to the one you just posted. Remember when IRS leaked? Right after that, someone saw Axl at a restaurant and told them when CD was coming out, someone seen him playing cards in Vegas, and someone seen him at the theater. If IRS hadnt leaked and brought the freaks out, none of the above stories would have even surfaced. I'm not saying a RS cover cant happen. Obviously it will happen when CD is on the horizon. But the timing of this rumour proves that its fake.

WOW...a few pics come out and the news/rumors seems to pour in.  As much as I love seeing Axl back out there, I want to HEAR something about an album on the horizon.  I just don't buy this rumor, but if I see Axl on Rolling Stone again I'll probably go crazy.

Somehow the math doesn't add up.  Magazines usually come out a month in advance.  What I mean is you usually get the March issue in Feb. etc.  So if the interview w/ Axl is at the end of Feb.  I don't see how that works.  Though, Rolling Stone puts out a mag every two weeks.  The idea is great.  A classic all time cover for RS possibly.  At this time I will believe just about anything.  Lets face it we are getting desperate.

If this is true, it would be SO awesome.. Zack and Axl on the front cover together! Oh, god.. :drool: That would be so great.

Well, I can't say if it will happen or not - noone of us can.

But I think, these two people together on a cover is not a nonsense concept. For many people in the late twenties, Guns N' Roses and RATM are connected in the memories as the music of the early nineties, the milestones of the soundtrack of their youth - I myself belong to these people.

And both haven't been heard for a few years. So a "REVENGE OF THE OLD STARS"-concept (;)) is not so unrealistic.

sounds like a good idea to me, and feasible from the standpoint that they both have been working on albums a long time and have been somewhat reclusive.

Im not quite sure of the reasoning people seem to have applied in terms of Axl being a "side note". I think in context, that is only in the view of the person who allegedly got the gossip. ie. the person who has written this on a forum is a big Zack fan and not so jazzed about Axl

we will see, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this...

always one of those I don't normally post on message boards!!

I'm not going to sit here and say yes or BS either way I will know when the issue comes out... I also don't want just some cover like they do with mags every so often that has no new info inside..

We need braides jersey axl with a interview involving the band situation, where cd is, and honestly when the fuck it's coming out, also tours, vids. singles! : ok:

Enough beating around the bush talking to people who know jack squat....

well... I'm afraid it could be untrue....

but if this thing it's really going to happen.... well, for me it's a dream comin' true!!

Axl and Zack are two of my favourites frontmen ever.

He didn't say it was the March issue he said it was the Spring/Summer issue coming out in March

Its gotta be fake, The reasons people say that it was an "old friend" who told them the rumor ?is because it makes it easier to back out and say "well fuck, I didnt say it, im just the messenger" when nothing happens. Just attention seeking idiots

hang on......AXL ROSE talks about CD in rolling stone magazine and he bacomes a sidenote....ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.keep these rumours coming there very entertaining  :rofl:.you watch,ill be in my newsagents in march and on RS will be axl and zack staring at me,ill have to eat my shorts  :'(.

Starts like an abduction retelling. "I know this is gonna sound crazy, but..."


Ross Halfin might be available.? :hihi:

It could be true... but yeah.. I just can't see Axl sharing the cover... but who knows... I guess we will see in a couple of months.

hmmm  ???  Lets think about it..  Zack, frontman of a successfull, and cool rock band, but all his bandmates left him and formed another cool and successfull rock band with a cool frontman from one of the best grungebands, and Axl, frontman of a successfull, and cool rock band, but all his bandmates left him and formed another cool and successfull rock band with a cool frontman from one of the best grungebands...  and they are both ready to release a album on their own for the first time..? At least they have something in common, right?

very true, it is possible. has anyone contacted rolling stone yet, They would tell??? wouldnt they

:phone: Yeah, he's on there. I was just told this reliable info from a friend of a friend of a friend of my mom's sister's cousin's niece's friend. She's never been wrong.

HI Saul! Very interesting. Hope she is right!
amyl

This myth is plausible...

a GN'R + RATM Tour would be great.

Yes, it would.. If Rage Against The Machine still were together.

But I could see a GN'R/Audioslave tour, that would be great.

let's spread this rumor everywhere :)


letters@rollingstone.com

That would be cool as shit. Loved RATM, hope they appear together.

I don't care much for RATM, but they were HUGE in the 90s, and broke up at their peak (similar to GnR). Both singers have promised new CDs for a long time and failed to deliver.
I have no reason to think it's real, but it's certainly not an improble scenerio.
I don't think Axl would have an issue being shot on the same cover with another big name rock talent like Zach.

I think it's very plausible, at least for ZDLR. Can't forget to keep that agenda-pushin' going on, can we, Rolling Stone?

One quick thing to point out.

This post was made BEFORE the Korn release party / pictures.  So, I would say on Jan 12th it would have been alot less likely for Axl to show up in a photo shoot anytime soon then it would on Jan 13th --> Forward.

Doesn't lend any credence to the rumor, just brings up that its not like someone said "Ooh, Axl pics are out - let me run with that and create something good!"

-darknemus

Wait-the hacks and flacks (managers/public relations) for each artist is going to agree to a joint cover? Axl is going to co-announce on the same cover with someone else after all this time? I don't see it like that. MAYBE they would have two different covers, but not BOTH Axl and Zack on the same cover.

Editorially speaking, most magazines work in a three month window. Ergo, RS is working on their April issue right now.
And the way good gossip spreads around Wenner Media, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a little weight to this rumor. Loose lips-sell Magazines!

And a photog? Something of this caliber would have to be Mark Seilger.

Management say that this is not true

..


ha ha thanks for clearing that up lets see what other bullshit comes out  :no:

what-ever-buggin-  i agree we should spread it!  lets all acrt like we believe every rumor this way it spreads so fast that Axl/management will have to eventually set the record straight!   but seriously....  this would be so cool!  i would buy 10 copies of it and frame them!!!!!!!! 

Thanks. hehe I read this post first, whatever the bs was...  :hihi:

Thanks for that Mysteron

This would rock!  :yes:

Axl and Chris are my favorite.  :drool:

well that clears that up for me.cheers mysteron.

Goody!
Wouldent wanna read 23 pages of bullshit, im pretty sure this tread could make it that big  :hihi:

Thankz for clearing up!

thanks for clearing this up   management is good in destroying hopes......they could at least say something more....

If its not then tell them to make it happen

Good point!

People, Chinese Democracy will be a huge story, when it 'll happen.

Why would Axl share a cover when he can have it on his own?

Amen! It always strikes me as a little sad when BS posters seem to dream up great marketing campaigns and stuff for this record while managment stays silent. Perhaps, IF this thing really is close, management is playing it tight to the vest and has some huge stuff planned, but we just don't know :no:

I doubt they will still be working on the March release in late February.
they probably have that done already a month ahead.

maybe they wanna keep it a surprise or not have any expectations so that if Axl decides not to release it people wont be let down. Do you expect them to tell people its true? Im not saying it is but I also wouldnt expect them to say yea its true either. Thats the equivalent to them making an announcement. If they say yes to that they are saying its coming out soon. And they are not willing to do that......

so either way what mysteron says is not that important....whats the next 1 line info ur gonna litter us with?

and maybe this answers My question about why management stays silent-they know their client is extremely volatile in his moods and it's hard to commit him to anything. That said, building up an entire wall of silence through lawsuits, confidentiality agreements, etc.  around a record just smacks me as little absurd-i'd rather hear small, positive comments of some substance than nothing. fuck, even an acknowledgement of how much the fans mean and what role they will play in the event of something happening would be cool, just to let us know we're appreciated.

More on topic: IF the record comes out, I'd have no doubt Axl will be featured in RS-as much as I think they suck now, they're still the source for mainstream music coverage, and they will certainly not ignore such an anticipated release.

Exactly. I'd rather see guns n roses than Rocha and rose on the covers.

Yes and tell Axl to finish and deliver the damn album, already!

Well if that rumor was true, it would have meant cd was done

has anyone ever seen a pic of mysteron or met him?  i love his inside info he brings us.... but I feel we are waiting for Axl as if we are waiting for the second coming of christ and mysteron is prophet bringing us the lord's message...... then ya kinda start to think... there is no god but god!  does he bring us the word in the form of an insider!  has mysteron ever been wrong?  i gotta stop smokin up this early in the day.  I cant wait til this is all over and all we have to talk about is the new singles, videos, live shows, interviews etc..... 

(http://fr.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9htdZnT6stD5sMAoaZuAQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12c8rl4db/EXP=1137523795/**http%3a//www.intellectualconservative.com/images/jesus.jpg)

 :smoking:

 ^:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 : ok: 

I find it strange how quickly some people can get "managment" to speak about these "rumors" and deny or confrm them , but other simple info cant be gotten?!

Like while talking to "mangement" why not ask something like "Well , umm is the actual recording process finished?"  "Do you have a setlist of songs?" "Any tour plans for 06?" ... I mean c'mon , get real for a second ....

How about everyone get rumors flying that theres a finished number of songs and all thats left is artwork , and theres a huge world tour planned for 2006 , get that all over the internet and see if management denies or confirms it?  :hihi:

I know the old line goes "when they have something to say they'll say it" , but really , would it be too much to ask them if the actual recording is done , are we close , are there ANY tours being planned?

Wow , sometimes I think Axl should change the name of either the band or the album to simply "The Area 51 Project - Tresspassers will be shot on sight , after they sign a confidentiality contract"

It is Axl's decision as to what information is revealed to the public and there is nothing management or anyone can do about that

What we good citizens can do though is stop the lies and the gossip if it is false.

so what you are saying is that it was axl's decision to have you say this rumor was false?  ???

So was it Axls decision not to stop The De Vinci Code soundtrack rumors?

NICE!!!   : ok:

 :peace:

OWNED!!
 :rofl:

I did not say that

well how about you give em a jingle and ask.  : ok:

 :peace:

If I could, I would  :hihi:

 :)  I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just trying to get some info out of the great one Mysteron. ;)

Doesnt seem very hard for you to shoot down all other rumors via contact with management though , why would the da vinci code be any different?

Is there a number you call for  "photo shoots" and a different number you call for "soundtrack possibilities" and another for "tracklistings and/or artwork"?

Hi , you have reached gnr management , if you are mysteron and seeking answers to a rumor concerning an axl rose photoshoot please press 1 , if you are seeking answers concerning rumors of a chinese democracy release date please press 2 , if you are seeking answers concerning a single appearing on a soundtrack please hang up as we cant help you at this time. This recording ends now!"

So he knows every bs flying about the net....or rather, the boards :o

my hero mysteron the insider passed through,

that's exactly how it works saul./..... madison gets line one and mysteron line 2 :rofl:

And "sp1at" has 2 tin cans with a piece of line.  :rofl:

Because it's a possibility

Mysteron, do you think playing at Rock in Rio is still a possibility?

If it was gunna happen I would imagine the ink would allready be dry on the contract between both camps by now.

Damn, ya'll are busting Mysteron's chops.  Don't scare him away, we may lose our one true insider.

Yes

Possibly

I wouldn't know

You need to seriously consider a career in politics. : ok:

LOL.

Post of the year so far..... :rofl:

That was clever Saul....Mysteron's on fire! :o

and give up this lucrative job as gnr messageboard insider?! Are you insane?  :rofl:

 :peace:

Anything is possible with GNR. At anytime they can throw themselves into a festival mix or pull themselves out. At anytime Axl can say hes ready then pull out. That is why its easy for Mysteron to play along.

Do you really think that if the RS thing is true they would confirm it to wannabes like Mysteron. Cmon

I've got nothing against Mysteron at all , but I'll say this much ... I have a fun ny feeling we would get alot more inside info if this was an Iron Maiden board and that band was the one we were following.  : ok:

let me tell you this, I have nothing against you mysteron or anyone else that shares these useless pieces of info, it's just whatever is being said is so unimportant.. Eevryone has their opinions or mythbusting ways but for me I am hearing nothing important ... ?When something important does happen like a single tour or video the world will know and I won't need some dude to be an insider to tell me this.. Maybe it's the kids that love these insiders but to me it's just ?abunch of BS talking about a dormant band,...

The way I see it, GnR management is kinda like the IRS. They go around, doing what they do, unseen by the masses until it is time to deliver some really bad news: shooting down rumor, cancelling tours, or releasing statements in Johnnie Cochranspeak. God forbid we actually hear something positive, some news to make the fans excited or hopeful, or maybe give them enough life to keep the porch light on each and every year. 

More denials really mean nothing to me at this point. It is the party line with this band.

To borrow a line from Axl  during the 2002 tour: "No shit, mutherfucker!" :rofl:

Mysteron obviously knows someone in management-not Axl. Management says what Axl wants them to. He's not a wannabe. He's just not directly connected with Axl, but who is? His own bandmembers don't know when the records coming out or when they are touring. Axl keeps his cards close to the vest-obviously. As far as touring, the band members don't currently have any dates scheduled so that is a decent sign. Also, I imagine they will need ample time to prepare as they probably haven't played together as a unit in 3 years! You can't just decide to play a bunch of festivals at the last minute. Just my opinion. :-\

Mysteron has a famous relative in the music buisness and Mysteron himself worked with Iron Maiden in some capacity a year or so ago. This is all common knowledge is it not?  ???

That the band players have yet to fill their schedules seems like a positive sign, although techincally we're still in the Holiday Season until Valentine's Day-so it's infinetly possible we won't hear much from them until mid-February. But if we don't see these guys adding dates or other gigs starting in March, it might be a decent bet to assume theyre back with Axl and gearing up for something. Rio is taking place in June, so I'd assume that the promoters would want to have their complete line-up announced no later than March....point is, we should be hearing something by the end of next month or early March...if we don't, i'd expect to see dizzy, tommy, and richard start announcing more side gigs.

I didn't know the Iron Maiden connection-I just always thought it was a connection with Sanctuary/management. I remember him mentioning a relative or brother who was a well known guitar player????-could be wrong there. I believe the guy. These board members take their frustrations with Axl out on him sometimes. It is kind of irritating. He just told people that Rio is still a possibility as well as the soundtrack. Good news in my opinion. Like you said Saul, he is quick to shoot down others-why didn't he shoot down this? At least Axl is considering doing something. :P

^ maybe because anyone can say rio or a soundtrack is possible..

thats my point

The fact is that The Da Vinci sountrack is a rumour that hasn't been denied yet.

And we know that Axl has a special relationship with the owner of RIR.

So, be a little positive...

that's my point! :) I'm not an idiot-believe me. I just think Mysteron is as "connected" as we are going to get on these trash heap Gnr websites

Mysteron, is there any possibility for Ossama Bin Laden to steal "Chinese Democracy" and put the tape on the internet? Do you have any contact with Ossama or his management? Does he have the braids??:hihi:

Anyway, thanks for the little Rio info? :peace:

Right, no sense going negative in January. besides both the DVC Soundtrack unkilled rumour and RIR, there's also the fact that he was out and photographed by the press, and most important of all-there was never a GH2! If you accept the working theory (and you're always free not to) that GH2 was a threat for the release of CD, then the fact that it has been shelved must spark you as a positive sign!

Because the Da Vinci Code is obviously a more legit rumour than most, and those types of rumours will never be shot down by the "insiders" because if/when theyre wrong, they lose credibility. Its easy to say Axl didn't play cards in Vegas, that a pic of Big Bird isn't Axl, etc. But when something more legit is in the air like Da Vinci, Amazon listing, and GH2, the insiders hibernate until the smoke clears. Isn't it funny how they can supposedly shoot down rumours but never ask questions? These "insiders" are like a reporter born without a mouth. : ok:

Mysteron is very cool.  Thanks for the info.

Davinci and RIR would be awesome!  RS cover would just be the cherry on top!  Obviously, with these things in the works, things are looking better than ever for us loyal Gunners.

 :beer:

Mysteron is connected allright. He has proved it to Jarmo, and that's all I need to know.

The "insider" is only going to be privy to information regarding the shooting down of rumours and thats it.

Theres no way in hell theyre going to be given a scoop to offer the community ie. a single date or a an interview heads up.

So although they can offer some help in terms of discrediting obvious bullshit, theyre certainly not going to get their hands on real juicy info

I wouldnt rule out the RS cover with Zach - its a very good idea indeed

Could you please point me in the direction of those phantom street teams. :hihi:

yeah and while we're at it, lets round up all the pro-Axl journalists so we can get favourable reviews!
Better still why not re-introduce the contracts Axl made journalists sign in 1991 which pretty much saw them veto there duty and right to a free press?

exactly.... I am being positive I am saying I don't need any insider to tell me rio a show axl loves is still possible even without word.. Axl was so broken hearted because buckethead ruined his one show that he loves so how can he possibly miss another one..

The street teams was an obvious sign that the album was almost ready to go at that point in time. Why don't have you (not YOU, the lot of you) a little fun speculating and playing along instead of being negative all of the time.

Mysteron has obviously been doing some scouting around for management with recent threads such as the GN'R-DJs thread and with RIR coming up and the possibility of the DVC soundtrack having GN'R.. a great window of opportunity has arisen.

Thanks for your efforts Mysteron.

Would it make you feel better if I told you it's still possible? :hihi:

I suggest you stop the off topic whining....

If you don't want to believe a poster, that's up to you.



/jarmo

well we will just have to wait an see then huh.

Rolling Stone Speak to Axl
17 January 2006, 8:49 AM
 

According to Korn's Press Officer, Kristine Ashton, a writer from Rolling Stone magazine spoke to Axl Rose on Friday 13th, the day of Korn's tour launch party. So keep an eye out for possible GN'R news in a future edition of Rolling Stone magazine.
Sanctuary yesterday quashed a similar rumour stating that Axl and Zack De La Rocha were to be formally interviewed and photographed in Febraury by the same magazine.

 
 
from splat so use a pinch of salt

never thought Axl would be the guy to share the coverstory with anyone anyway... :-*

I think Axl get's more "public" when there's some incoming and important news regarding gnr. So stay tuned...

Of course it's  possible he will get a cover in Rolling Stone. He's still regarded as one of the best frontman of all time, so why wouldn't he get it when a cd of new material, after all this time, is due in a short period of time (hopefully!)???.

I'm not trying to say whether Mysteron is an insider or not but whats with all the antagonism towards Mysteron? I have always read his posts with interest sometimes I agree sometimes I dont but calling him a wanabee is a bit harsh ent it? Mike

Well if Axl spoke with RS then you'd have to imagine it would be because he has something to say-otherwise, he'd turn them away just like every other press inquiry he's gotten since 2002. Probably a little reason to be optimistic at this point-but I still wouldn't put anything down as set.

Here's the full transcript of that conversation:

RS writer:? Hey Axl!!!? I'm from RS mag.
Axl:? Fuck off.




I'd kinda be surprised if Axl granted anybody from RS an interview.? For the past few years, all the Axl mentions in that mag seemed to me to be of the "bashing" persuasion.? :-\

 :rofl:  Yea that is probably the extent of that conversation.

sad but true he hasn't agreed to anything as of yet.like i said we will have to wait an see what turns out. :crying:

so was this rumor proved false or is it too early to tell?

Axl could very well appear by himself, right?

i guess the possibility still remains....  i think the only proof of it not happening, is when the issue appears without axl on the cover....

Sorry no Axl on RS.  Try Kanye West dressed as Jesus for the next cover.

[barf]

oh well, he'll apear on the cover soon enough!

yea thoes fuck heads would only put axl on if he gave an exact date for CD or cd was out they would probably never ask axl to go on the cover bc of an interview or just bc hes axl

when axl broke his silence the last time he was on the cover i think   .....because of an interview....     and yeah.. there`s no reason to put him on the cover just because he?s axl....

I just saw that.