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Fucking classic.? :rofl:

Chinese Democracy may never see the light of day and somehow it is already getting covered by other artists. Only in GnR-world....

That's a testiment to the song.. 

I wonder how Axl feels about this.   :hihi:

Just when you think the situation cant get any stranger, something like this happens. It'll never be on their album though. I doubt Axl would let an unreleased song of his be released by someone else. He would sue if they did it. Imagine if the Madagascar cover went to #1? The shit would definitely hit the fan.

HAHA totally!!   I am sure after Axl hears about this, they are going to get a phone call from Axl's lawyer saying..you are not allowed to play this song during your sound checks or guess what............law suit..

Yes, because Axl has magical lawyers that could stop something like that from happening.  ::)

Axl sues for just about anything that involves him and his music.   Whether or not this is something that can be sued for, I care nothing about but the point I was making is that, they prolly will get some sort of letter from his people,  I just can't see him digging the fact that a band is using one of his unofficially released songs to play at sound check.  This is Axl we are talking about here.

well, it means madagascar is considered as a classic before it is even released... : ok:

I'm sure Madagascar and The blues studio versions will become Classics. CD will sell 10 million copies just with those 2 tracks.

If Axl seen you walking down the street humming The Blues he would probably sue you.

As far as I know, you are not allowed to cover an unreleased song. You need to get the permission of at least one co-writer if there are several writers involved in the song. That's what happened with Crash Diet. The band that wanted to release it (Asphalt Ballet) got the permission from one of the co-writers (the guy from Wild Side). As long as they don't get the legal green light, they are stuck.
They can cover anything they please during a show or a rehearsal, but they cannot release it.

why is it strange? I think its cool that another band wants to cover an unreleased, unknown gnr song. It just shows how good the song really is. Hopefully if they do it, they dont butcher it. Im curious to see another bands take on Maddy.

But noone has heard this track yet right?

Has something like this ever happened before, or is this a case for the Guiness Book Of World Records?? ?:o

Anyway, I think it's fuckin' great.? ?;D

The guy from the band sounds cool, I mean they went to the Leeds show (or played there themself?) and they liked GN'R and the new song so much that they decided to cover it - nothing wrong with that!?

I haven't heard the cover, but generally, this only means free PR and even more GN'R fans!? :D

C'mon Axl, this must send chills down your spine, doesn't it?? ?;)? Respect!? ?: ok:?

FUCK...there is so much potential out there. What the hell is doing Axl? release the dawn album and the Top of the charts will be yours.

My sources have informed me that Axl now plans to release Chinese Democracy by way of having a different band cover each song slated for the album. While the album itself will never be seen, the songs will live on as covers on other band's albums.  :hihi:

He can not like it all he wants. It doesn't change the fact that he has no grounds on which to sue anyone. If they were to try and release that recording, however, he could block that from happening by simply refusing the right to release it.

Oh, I think the fact that it has earned a pet name REALLY shows how good the song is. "Maddy" Rox!   ::)

Focking Hilarious, good one! ;D

Racer X covered "Heart of a Lion" which was never released by Judas Priest in 1988


The song has since been released on Rob Halfords live solo album and in  the judas priest box set metalogy.

I think he doesn't mind other bands covering it on shows or rehearsals, or asking for his permission to release their versions.

Haha also there's been a couple of other bands tried to release their albums with the name of Chinese Democracy.

Yap! Madagascar is already classic!!!  : ok:

Next thing ya know, Chinese Democracy album wil be fully covered by anotha band b4 GN'R release their version

Yet another thing to "delay" Chinese Democracy another five years.

exaggerated

I dont agree Conny, this isnt respect or covering, this is blatant thievery.

Axl should sue them immediately

A song that hasnt been released yet cannot be covered since their isnt technically an orginal version even out.

This leaves a bad taste in my mouth and pisses me off that some Stupid fucked up no talent pieces of shit would try and steal a song

cause essentially this is what they are doing.

You gotta be kidding me...

Yeah,  ;D you should say 10 years!

LOL - I guess I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt - no matter how ridiculous it seems at this point.

Jimi Hendrix performed Sgt. Pepper before the Beatles released it.

The story goes they were all hanging out, and they played the album for Jimi. Hendrix went home and that night learned the entire song, and performed it at his concert the very next day. Flipped the Beatles right the fuck out. They laughed about it, but still.

Figured this was an appropriate story.

Are you serious?
How do you know they are um.. to quote; "Stupid fucked up no talent pieces of shit"?  They could be the next hot thing for all you know.

It's not stealing, it's showing that they like the song enough to attempt their own version to it.

And of course they can cover it if there isn't a released recording of the original, they're still creating their own interpretation of a track by another artist, therefore covering it.
Not stealing, stealing would be, for instance; Axl playing it to them, it never being heard by anyone but them, then they in turn going into the studio and exactly recreating it. That's stealing.

D, c'mon it's not like these guys stole a demo from Axl's bedroom. He has performed the song several times himself, even on MTV, so it has premiered already. As far as I know, the RIR 3 show was officially released in Brazil, so the song could even be considered "released".

I think what these guys are doing is way cooler than what The Offspring came up with some time ago.

clearly a publicity stunt for this unknown band

That's so GN'R ;D Song ain't out there yet, but already covered :rofl:

I know a red hair singer who's gonna get mad again :peace:

I don't think they are planning on releasing it, it was more or less a personal recording. If a band has a decent enough recording contract they will usually go into a professional studio with their producer and record songs that they could potentially be on the final album. The producer will take those tapes and listen to them and help the band by suggesting changes, ideas for arrangements, harmonies, etc. The stuff that a producer does. I remember hearing a bunch of studio demos that Ozzy did during the No More Tears sessions and they sound as good as the final album. Maybe a little more raw sounding, as they are quick run throughs, but they sound pretty good.

What probably happened is that Area 54 was demoing tracks and just did it for laugh while the engineer was getting levels or something. I doubt we'll ever hear it, and it is most likely nowhere near the level of symphonic the GnR version must be.

Like I said before, I think it's a great testiment to the song but still in all, what if they play it infront of people that don't even know it's a GNR song, these people might think it's theirs, inturn getting all the credit for it.   I guess, I'd rather see Axl releasing the studio version before bands decide to cover it during their sound checks or their shows.

If it gets officially released they`ll have more lawyers from Axl at their door than flies on shit.

Sounds like a joke from a band looking for a little attention. This will go about as far as Offspring's stunt did.

Are u truly a GNR fan?

Being a mod I would assume u are

so in saying that, how can u support that?

If they record their own version of Madagascar and put it on a record and release it as a single or people hear it, that is stealing.

A cover song is when something has been released by an artist already on an album and someone down the road records a version.

Axl has not released this song, so if a band releases it before he does, that is stealing cause people will think they wrote it and it will destroy any chance Axl has at releasing it as a single.


RULE NUMBER 1

Art means something to me, I know some of u on here look at music as entertainment only but its not entertainment only, that song is Axl's soul and emotions and for some band to rip that off is fucked up and sad and wrong and I dont know what else.

People who go about stuff like this are shitty untalented people cause a TRUE artist would never do something like this, cause a TRUE artist respects that a song is a piece of another ones soul and wouldnt dream of doing this.

I really cant understand any of you on here defending this and I am disappointed by all of u who think this is COOL when it is far from COOL.

1.  You are assuming that they are going to release it.

2.  They aren't claiming to have written the song, they fully admit it is a cover version (and that it was recorded because they liked the song).

How is that "stealing"?

If they do it for their own amusement thats fine

if they release it on a CD that is stealing cause Axl hasnt released it yet and would not give them permission to do so.

So if they just play it and fuck around thats fine but if they plan on makin any kind of commercial gain from it, that isnt right.

Reaching for the salt.........

what about me....me n' my band played at my last 3 birthday partys and we played Chinese Democracy, an acoustic version of Madagascar and Crash Diet (amongst the rest of the released stuff) , did i commite a fuckin' crime....no, i played the cunts live, for fun, THIS BAND WONT RELEASE IT, ITS FOR FUN!!!!

fuckin' hell some of you guys red hot, just calm down :o

This is fucking odd, covering a song that practically doesnt exist.  :peace:

IMO , the day axl started playing it live and actually using it as a staple of EVERY show the new band did he pretty much "released" it. Using it as the only new song the new band did at the VMA's also gave it a bit of oomph.

All this dramatic BS being spewed is pretty damn silly seeing as GNR covered a SLEW of songs they liked themselves.  ::)

I dont think this is at all a "stunt" by this band but rather a very innocent recording by a band who just happened to , heaven forbid , like the song alot and want to give it a shot recording it.

I hope they put it on an album and release it as a single.  : ok:

 :peace:

The chinese democracy cover album starts now!

I hope u are joking

releasing songs decades old and someone releasing a song that hasnt even been released by the original artist are nowhere near the same thing.

and if some of u cant get that through your heads then Im through trying

I give up if u cant see the wrong in that.

I think it's pretty safe to say that they will never release it .

THough it would be some what amusing that they could put that song out before Axl does.

They'll never release it. Commercially that is. But think about the attention they'd get by dropping an mp3 on the net. After that statement they could just put out a file to P2P networks and say it got leaked. Everyone would know which band it is, but Axl would have hard time going the legal way. Which he would try, without a doubt.

Now that would really be something.  ;D

Well, in order to release it officially, the band would have to get Axl's permission.
So there won't be any "stealing" of this song.

It will either be released, or not.
If the band wants to make ANY profit off the song, they'd have to get Axl's permission.

I personally don't see the harm in covering an unreleased song.
It's probably the closest we'd ever get to a studio version of the song anyway...

No, it was never released officially here. But its quite easy to find the pirate bootleg (cd/dvd) in some places.

Lakis Kyriacou of Area 54 has told Splat that they will not be distributing in any way their recently recorded version of Guns n'roses' "Madagascar" (as reported recently by Blabbermouth).
Lakis told us, "I have already given my word to Axl's people that I would not distribute it in any way and I intend to keep my word. I understand that many Gn'R fans are interested in finally hearing a studio version and as much as I wish you all could, I really don't wanna shit on Axl."


http://www.sp1at.com/item.php?id=582

Seriously you people need to calm the fuck down. The second something happens that anyone here perceives as a potentially jeopardizing the release of CD or the band itself everyone freakes the fuck out and starts calling anyone and everything that is the least bit threatening 'peices of shit' and howling for Axl's lawyers. Damn, its just a cover song, and the same rules apply to Axl that apply to any other musician under a recording contract whether you want to beleive it or not.

The only person jeopardizing the release of CD is Axl Rose. Chill out people.

This is kinda weird if you ask me.

http://www.area54.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41

yeah what do they mean by "Meanwhile, if you've not checked out our clips of us recording, have a look soon, as we might have to take them down at some point soon."

That band isn't going to release their verison because that's illegal,anyway it's just a demo,they have no plans to recorded it on there album.Anyway I like the GN'R live version of the song,the bootleg sounded great,just imagine how it will sound when CD does come out :beer:

 Frontman Lakis Kyriacou of the British melodic metal band AREA 54 has answered several "freqently answered questions" regarding the group's cover version of the unreleased GUNS N' ROSES song "Madagascar", laid down during a demo-recording session a couple of years back. The questions and Lakis' responses follow:

Q: Since recording it, have you been threatened by Axl's [Rose lawyers?

Lakis: "No, because we've kept our promise of not releasing it. They wouldn't take us to court for just recording the song, and as we've stuck to our word, there's no problem between AREA 54 and Axl or his manager/label as far as we know."

Q: Are you going to release it on your next album?

Lakis: "If we were to get the go ahead, it could be fun to do that, but I suspect that our new album will be out before 'Chinese Democracy' (unless they really do drop the album in March this time), and they wouldn't let us release a cover of an unreleased GUNS N' ROSES track. We've had so much interest in the song that if we are ever to release it, we'll probably go back to the studio and fix a couple of things, because the pressure is on more than we expected. I consider it a work in progress now rather than something that we just did for a laugh. Everyone wants to hear it, even the Axl haters, which is quite cool and funny to me! It's the first cover we've ever recorded, so I'm not used to the amount of e-mails I've had concerning the track and the people who actually come over to me at gigs to ask if they can hear it ? even at a recent ARCH ENEMY/STRAPPING YOUNG LAD gig!!! So yes, we're better known anyway, that's never a bad thing. Most GUNS fans have been very supportive and have been behind us, apart from those who think we did it as a publicity stunt, which is far from the truth, but people will believe what they want. If we didn't get asked about covers, we might never have mentioned it, so those wonderful users of Blabbermouth etc. who are going to tear into us, don't be so quick to, but if you're going to anyway, get your money's worth, people!"

Q: Don't you think it's going to bother Axl?

Lakis: "Why would it? We've respected his wishes & he should be happy that we've not just done 'Sweet Child O' Mine' like everyone else. It should show him that if it's already being covered, he's got nothing to worry about regarding the release of 'Chinese Democracy'. Come on Axl, release that bad boy."

Q: You've said to Sp1at.com that it was a last-minute idea to record it, so how good is it?

Lakis: "Fucking excellent! Like we said, a couple of things could sound better, but considering it was a silly last minute idea, it's still a seriously brilliant version of the song."

Q: Why did you record this particular GN'R track?

Lakis: "Originally it was purely for fun. I was at the Leeds show back in 2002, they played it there. Hearing it live just blew us away. I wanted to hear a studio version, and at least I have now!"

Q: If you were to do another unreleased GN'R cover, which would you pick?

Lakis: "Haha, good question! 'The Blues' maybe, it's one of those grow on you songs if you like that kind of thing. It wouldn't be 'Silkworms', but I don't want to do anything else, so it's not going to happen."

Q: I heard the Internet buzz about you doing a version of "Madagascar" and the forums were buzzing with talk about your effort. I was wondering when we are gonna be able to hear your track? Are you going to release an mp3? What's the situation there????

Lakis: "No MP3s, sorry!! We don't want it out there until we have permission...If that ever happens."

Q: How different is it to the GUNS N' ROSES version?

Lakis: "We've sort of stayed true to the original. We didn't add any of the orchestra that Axl has added to their studio version, the middle section was a problem, because if you take out the Martin Luther King quotes etc., that section would not work at all, so we changed a few root notes in that section of the song and added a fucking cool solo in there instead, which gave that section a weird feel of the older style GUNS breaking out, which was not intentional, but I'm glad it came out that way. Ours is heavier too, we've put serious heaviness to the guitars, but it's all tasteful, we've just AREA 54'd it up real nice! Even if we can't release it, the new AREA 54 album is going to surprise a lot of people. It's like a different band, and we've come a long way, so add that to your shoplifting list of 2006."

So are we too believe this guy has heard a polished version of Madagascar, or is he merely speculating the final mix will have orchestra arrangements in it?

i`d say he`s just shooting the breeze, but you never know...