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found it on blabbermouth. Guns management has told LAUNCH that Slash's staement is false. They do say Chinese Democracy is comming but no date has been set.

Link??

blabbermouth.net

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=46678

Launch Radio Networks reports: Although former GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Slash told a Philadelphia radio station two weeks ago that he heard a March release date was on tap for the long-delayed new GUNS album, the band's management has told Launch that no release date has been set. Slash said that he had learned about the March date from sources inside the GUNS camp. A management spokesperson said that the new album, titled "Chinese Democracy", "is coming," but its official arrival date has yet to be determined.

Slash also said in his interview that he has no feud, or any relationship for that matter, with GUNS frontman Axl Rose. Slash explained, "I haven't really talked to him directly, but we're not at each others throats or anything like that, just to kill all of that bad blood that people keep recreating. God, it's been going on for 10 years. He and I have never had a conversation, an argument...over that whole 10 years, and people have been generating all this animosity. But at this point there's no friction going on."

Rose is the only remaining original member of GUNS N' ROSES left in the band. Co-founders Slash and bassist Duff McKagan, as well as drummer Matt Sorum, are all now part of VELVET REVOLVER.

The last studio release from GUNS N' ROSES was the 1993 covers collection, "The Spaghetti Incident?" The group released a live effort in 1999 and a "Greatest Hits" set in 2004.

VELVET REVOLVER is currently working on its sophomore album.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/

FUCK, it's never coming out

Yeah, that's exactly what this means.. it's never coming out..

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Ah, another day, another rumor shot down.  I've heard these rumors for so long that they don't raise my heart rate one bit.  It'll be announced when Axl announces it, plain and simple.

Well, they didn't totally kill it.  I think they are the ones that want to announce it.  They said was coming, just not what day. 

Okay: Everyone close your eyes and look the other way. Start counting, mississippi counting. Then when we're all hiding and counting, Axl will then show up and announce the date.

No peeking. :o

so soon isnt the word yet?  ???

has anyone checked if Axl has that word on his dictionary?  :no:

The funniest thing is people actually believed what slash said in the first place.  :rofl:

Slash said that to razz Axl and put him under pressure to release it. I bet he and Duff are laughing their asses off right now! :hihi:  I DO hope it helps Axl get his ass in gear. If he misses the chance to relase CD on/or around the same time as VR does "Liberated" he's a dumb ass.

well  this doesn`t deny anything imo. it`s almost a fact that chinese democarcy won`t come out before april/march. management said that there is no official release date yet, but the album is coming.... when is a release date official? the day it`s announced?  well...  i don`t know, but i bet they wouldn`t let slash be the one who announces a CD release date.....

They would only be lauging at the fan base, and I doubt that was Slash's intention. As for Axl, he probably doesn't give a damn about the whole thing.

wow! They atleast said, "its comming"  :hihi:

I guess they havent been that concrete before...

exactly this is a major change for Sanctuary, they have never said that before!

Jonx

And this is good? If Axl said "It's coming", would you hold your breath?

I don't really see anything positive or negative here-Slash probably heard something through a third party friendly with both him and axl and simply relayed out on the radio...it's not like he gave a release date and claimed to know exactly what was going on with axl! As for having no date set, well, they might be looking into various dates and trying to figure out a marketing plan-that they said 'it's coming' is something different from them. doesnt change anything-wait for Rio and Tommy announcements.

i think you're right. especially since he mentions VR's new album in the same breath. he makes a mockery of axl and gets VR free promotion all at the same time.

did you guys read this part? ???


Geez, it sounds to me like he's trying to put the rumors to rest. and there you go and say he was just doing it to get more Money N Fame. OH FUCK!!!! :rant:

 :rofl: had to do it sorry :rofl: Actually, Slash got us the only official GnR news we've had in a while by making that statement.

Sure enough :yes:

My question is .... What the hell is this launch thingy blabbermouth keep mentioning?  ???

Yeah it's coming in 2022, remember?

CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS LATER!

that's how it's called? it sounds emo..
as for chidem....they did say its coming..but could be coming in 2007 for all we know  :-X

It wouldn't surprise me if it was scheduled for March, Axl delays it for a month or so just so it wasn't Slash that first revealed the release time.

At least we know it is still coming.

It's no secret slash always wants to be the nice guy, that leaves the bad-guy slot open for axl to fill...cause the good guy job is already taken.....hypocrite

hurray! Axl pushed it back to prove Slash wrong! :hihi:

shannon hoon is god  ;D you should bone to the nick below your avatar  :P

It is just so typical for Axl. I wouldn't believe it even if he himself said it... :no:

is that a true statement....has Sanctuary never made that type of statement in the past?

what was said in that NY Times piece last year?

GnR management are very adept at destroying all hope, all desire that this project has any hope of reaching the public. Good for them. It's better to keep an album ten years in the making in a perpetual state of nebulousness, rather than make any statement with meaning.  'CD is coming', well didn't we hear 2004 from Vh1, 2005 from Merck, coming in for a landing from Tommy, and blah blah blah.

I have alot of faith in Axl but why management  feels the need to keep the public frozen out of any type of  progress report is beyond me........

My opinion of this is that Axl WONT release anything until after VR releases their next album. I'm betting Axl will wanna hear what VR does next just to make sure what he's got is up to snuff with theirs.

And release his album around the same time as VR?! Not a chance , I dont think axl wants to compete with or take the chance of having his album overshadowed by his former friends , so to speak.

I really don't think he has anything to worry about for VR. i really doubt their album will have anything to do with the release of Chinese Democracy...

Not to mention that in his mind, Axl has no competition. It is all about himself. His only concern is to create a perfect album. No wonder that we have been waiting for ChinDem for more than a decade....

Another funny thing .Is that people actually believe what management says ?:rofl:.

Maybe he'll rush in a quick release before the VR album  ;)

That's not what they said.  Guns did not say that Slash was wrong.  Everything that Slash said could be true, GNR just haven't officially announced it yet.

I agree

I seriously doubt Slash had any ill intent as far as the statement goes.  The guy was asking him about GNR from what I remember and Slash told him something that he heard. ?He didn't say it was definite but thats what he was told.  Also, he was there to talk about the band he is in now and he of course had to say something about their next project as well!

And as for the fued. ?I think he should have said the media and the fans on the forums are the ones that keep fueling that fire. ?I think the only thing that Slash cares about in regards to Axl is the lawsuit and that is just business. ?But everytime Slash or Duff speak or put out an album or do whatever they do it is always to spite Axl in the Axl-fans eyes!

So much negitivity... I still think March/April is realistic. Just because they denied what slash said..

Yeah I know!? Thats what I don't get.? You have people here that want to hate on the old band members and Axl so much yet they claim to be fans of GNR.? I don't get it.

Were they all hating Slash and Duff when they were part of the band?? And if not why now??

Some people act like it's a couple of grade school yard gangs.? If you are in one gang you can't like the other and vice versa.? It's fucking music people. For christ sakes.

No one here has any business hating on any of these people unless they did something to them personally.? If it's about the lawsuit, get over it.? It's fucking business.? They are fighting over rights of a coporation that they were all a part of.

If it's about who said what about who, get over that as well.? That is the same story from different sides of the coins.? Just like in a marriage.? If you were friends with a couple when they were together and then they divorced would you stop being friends with one over the other because they were seperated?? Same thing applies here!

I'll give another example: The Beatles

When they broke up I'm sure alot of people had their speculations and there were different stories depending on who you talked to.? But a good thing came out of it.? Beatle fans still had all the old Beatles stuff as well as Lennons, Harrisons, Starrs, and McCartneys solo efforts that we might not have heard (Live And Let Die anyone?, thanx to McCartney's Wings after the Beatles).? Thats the way I look at it here with GNR.? While I wasn't happy with GNR breaking up.? I got some other cool music to listen to that if they stayed together I might not have heard.

Just get sick of the people that would try to talk shit about Slash, Duff, Axl.? Speculting that Slash just made the shit up out of the air just because......

:rant over:

Yep and they still said it's coming.. and they didn't say it WOULDN'T be coming in March, just that they haven't set anything for sure yet.

And the Chrurch says Christ is comming...

This is the type of questions that needs to start being asked, and should have been years ago. Maybe the guy who wrote the times article should find out. :nervous:

i havn't read all this thread but i find the sanctuary statement VERY encouraging.ok,so slash said march and sanctuary have said no release date has been set,but slashs comments were only based on whats hes heard off a friend of a friend of a friend etc,etc,etc.the ''coming soon'' bit is proberbly the most exciting thing we've all heard since gnr toured in 2002.for starters,they DIDNT say ''there is no release date set and when there is you will find out'' coz that to me says ''were only GNRS management,how the fuk are we supposed to know whats goin on''.but they DID say that ''the album is coming soon'' which to me says ''yes the ball is rolling and we,ve been in touch with mr rose and co and we,re very very close to wrapping this whole thing up.so hang in there and enjoy the roller coster they call GUNS N MUTHA FUCKIN ROSES coz its gonna be worth the wait''.(ooh im all excited now ?:rofl:).
 ?OF COURSE,THATS IF THIS STATEMENT IS TRUE ?:confused:

I heard coming soon years ago.......there is little to be optimistic about after that statement. :-\

but we havnt heard it off sanctuary yet.well not in such words,but things seem to be gettin to a point where it becomes a sensible time to release CD.if the album had of come out in say,2000,then that was way to early and close to old GNR being in poeples memorys.old GNR were not fresh but sort of still talked about alot.lets say 2003,bucket heads departure didnt help at all,things went against new gnr like the tour cancelled and contraband  and other stuff.but now slash and co are doing well which i think will help new gnr,the music industry needs something like new gnr,and i dont think even AXL wants to cradle this baby any longer.this is my view on it and i think that any time in the next 4-6 months will be the perfect time for the ball to start rollin.im startin to think that any earlyer would have been a mistake.

I heard coming soon years ago.......there is little to be optimistic about after that statement. :-\

I totally agree.  People say that management or Axl "needs to give us a statement or something." 

And then, even though we get nothing from them, when they say something so generic as "coming soon," we're so optimistic that we all say "Hey, wait - I think someone is trying to tell us something!"  Dammit, how many times has this happened?!? 

THIS STATEMENT BY THEM IS WORTHLESS.  As worthless as anything that Merck or anyone else who thinks they're "in the know" has tried to pass off to us for the last billion years we've been waiting for CD.  No one knows anything.  No one wants us to tell anything.

Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat as you guys.  A die-hard fan til' the end, holding onto every rumor and little news story like it's a freakin' golden ticket to the most anticipated album of my life.   

Axl would never give slash the satisfaction of releasing it on a date that slash announced to the world.

Axl's a bitter mother fucker

I DON'T see Chinese Democracy coming SOON at all, also I don't think management knows anything until Axl says so, there so left in the dark its not funny. Bottom line is... Axl's not out to hurry for anybody..when theres something he wants us to hear we'll hear it, until then read and write all the shit ya want :peace:  Slash watch what you say, some people really believe you :hihi:

In the scheme of things, I see this as vaguely positive. They say it's coming which is different in tone to past statements. I'd say we're close and it's worth noting also that there is no direct denial of Slash's statement. It's just an official release date has not been set. Slash neither gave nor stated there was an official release date.

Maybe Im being altogether too positive...

Axl or His Managment really needs to make an offical statement on the matter, all these Rumours of "coming soon" are now sounding very old indeed.
 What Makes it more Worrying is that even other members of Guns N Roses have no Idea when or even if it is going to be released.
 if Axl did make statement and it said somthing like "Chinese Democracy is not ready yet, but were all Working hard and gearing up for a November 2006 release" (and somone actually kept him to it)  it would stop all these Rumours once and for all.
 But I suppose getting Axl to speak out is probably one of the hardest things to do.

Just reminds me.. Universal Music Norway said in October that the Guns vol 2 was set for a March '06 release. Could it be that Slash had the same information, and when he got the message about GH2 being scrapped it meant the release of Chinese Democracy.

I'm also feeling a little positive about this. As you said, the tone was different. But merck's '2005 is the year of GNR' was a different tone also, and nothing came of it. I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll get it this year, but its starting to feel like the same yearly merry go round. The only difference from last year and the previous years is that the rumour mill kicked in even quicker at the beginning of this year.

Agreed.  Axl has millions and a secure legacy.  He's not in a hurry for anyone, and in some ways I don't blame him.  Hell, for all we know he's kicking back and enjoying life.  One things for certain though, we aren't going to find a release date through rumors.  And everyone thats been on the boards since the beginning knows that.

What is the label & management supposed to say?
Yes, as a matter of fact, Slash was correct?
Even if it is coming in March, they're not going to finally give out a release date by confirming something that Slash said on a radio station.
They'll do their own announcement, and this particular statement doesn't give me any reason to think CD won't be released.

well  they didn?t even say "soon" :hihi:

by the way there were actually some things to get excited about after 2002.....rio announcement.....axl`s rio statement ( in a couple of months)......mercks 2005 comment....   and probably some other things i have forgotten about    oh yeah VH1 november `04 for example....so take this for what it`s worth....



yeah i agree with you.... "no official release date set" means probably no release date announced or no exact release date planned....

i don`t know if i`m reading to much into this but "official" could be a key word...........i guess that`s even too positive.. :beer:

but universal norways word isn't good for jack shit, they just throw rumours around, even tho splat reported it as news, they later admitted that the guys from universal were only guessing, so this universal norway thing was just a guess which was reported as a news statement...

i'll go for the old "unless you hear it from gn'r management or axl himself it's only wild guesses and speculations"

I'm getting a bit sick of the 'Slash gave out a phony release date to make Axl look bad' and 'Axl will now delay the album again just to spite Slash' theories. I think Slash was just relaying something he heard and thought to be true-save for the lawsuit, which is a business and copyright matter, I seriously doubtSlash spends even 1/10th of his time thinking about Axl, let alone trying to set him up. And Axl is certainyl bitter towards the other guys, but I doubt he would throw off his entire promotional plan just b/c Slash said something in a very brief interview on a Philly area radio station-give me a break! :confused:

agreed....  but there`s no way the management would confirm slash`s statement .....   i mean " yeah slash is right CD is coming in march we just didn`t announce it yet"......

Well, I was the one who actually contacted Universal.. Their exact words were "it comes out next year (March), at the same time all over the world". The mail was written by the head of USM.

I'm not saying that this means it really was slated for release in March, but there were no indications in the mail saying "we're guessing".

Enitrely possible-all I'm saying is that whether Slash is right or not, there is no conspiracy going on with him in terms of trying to make Axl look bad.

gez, the only cd that will come out in March is GH2, that's what Slash is hoping for, more royality money$$ The rest is a load of crap!

You are gonna be counting for a long time.......... :hihi:

yes he is!

and what the....bone to it..?

No, they didn't.

They simply said no date has been set. This doesn't mean it's not March and it doesn't mean Slash is wrong.

fuck man well i guess axl did say soon wasnt the word to use.

Do you think Slash's comments could be at all true now that we know that both Axl and Slash both talk to Izzy?  Perhaps Slash heard something about Chinese Democracy's release date second hand from Izzy.  Who knows......

what did i miss? has axl talked to izzy lately?

he just said it on RS.

got it he he, and jesus was that good ah..?!

just maybe someday axl an slash will go golfing lol.